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Quote# 118768

My family and I had gone to my son’s graduation yesterday. Supposedly a joyous occasion, I was disappointed that those kids were mostly in the Devil’s camp, trusting in works, achievements and do-gooding, receiving their temporary reward now and not laying up treasures in Heaven. Nothing was mentioned about the God of the King James Bible, although several of the speakers did mention a few NIV verses (I say NIV because by and large that’s the world’s bible).

I was saddened when I saw that one of the brightest young ladies who had achieved so much for herself in school is a LGBT pusher. It’s so sad to see so many young folks, having been brainwashed by the Communistic public school system, raring to get out and conquer the world, and precious few know or want to know Jesus Christ, the One Who gives true satisfaction, not just from works but a personal relationship with Him, the everlasting God of Heaven and earth.

There were over 1,000 young people present to receive their congratulations and diplomas, but how many will receive a “Well done, thou good and faithful servant” from the lips of Jesus Christ? Only God knows.

kingjameswriter1965, I Hate The Internet But I Love Jesus 15 Comments [5/6/2016 3:10:06 AM]
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Quote# 118774

John Calvin defines the “flower of her age” (1 Corinthians 7:36) as “from twelve to twenty years of age”. Likewise, John Gill defines it as “one of twelve years and a half old”. And Martin Luther says, “A young man should marry at the age of twenty at the latest, a young woman at fifteen to eighteen…” We do not endorse marriage at ages as young as twelve. Our position is that, for a woman:

1. The ‘youth’ ready for marriage has breasts. A woman who is to be married is one who has breasts; breasts which signal her readiness for marriage, and breasts who promise enjoyment for her husband. (We believe that ‘breasts’ here stand as a symbol for all forms of full secondary sexual characteristics.)

2. The ‘youth’ ready for marriage is ready to bear children. Unlike modern society Scripture sees the woman as a bearer, nurser, and raiser of children. The ‘young woman’ is the woman whose body is physically ready for these things, physically mature enough to handle them without damage.

3. The ‘youth’ ready for marriage is one who is ready for sexual intercourse sexually and emotionally. Her desire is for her husband, and she is ready to rejoice in him physically.

(...)

[W]e know from scientific studies (as well as first-hand knowledge, in many cases) that the fertility of women (and even men, to some extent) goes down steadily after the age of 20, and dips even more sharply after 30 and 40. This is even more the case if a woman has reached such an age without having had any children yet. So, by reason of these facts, it is clear that it is best to marry much earlier than 30 to better fulfill the command to be “fruitful and multiply”.

(...)

Scripture speaks of the father of the son “taking a wife” for his son, and the father of the bride “giving” her to her husband…. It gives example after example of young women being given to young men, without the young woman even being consulted, and often, in some of the most Godly marriages in Scripture, the young man is not consulted….

Some use the idea of “consent” to deny the very relevance of the action of their authorities to bind them in covenant, as if a covenant was of no effect whatsoever and all that matters is what the person themselves decide. Others consider a covenant to be something substantial but that it is not really binding until the person themselves “consents”.

In contrast, our study of Scripture has shown that the Word of God considers a covenant made by an authority to be meaningful and binding upon the those under his or her authority. Biblical consent is not the “consent” of dating or courtship. It is not a “veto” power. It does not presume to cast judgment over their father’s actions. And so, a lack of consent of the individual concerned is a choice of disobedience, a breach of a vow and of a relationship. God has designed the marriage relationship (in particular that of the virgin daughter marrying the virgin son) to be a relationship initiated by the parents, in particular the fathers, of the young couple. This is the example that God uses constantly in Scripture, and even where an example strays from this, these principles are still kept in focus.

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Bride price: What is it, and why is it important? Wouldn’t a bride price be like selling your daughter? A “bride price” is anything paid or given by the man or his representative at the time of his betrothal or receiving his bride.

Scripture certainly teaches about it, but it is not mandated, however, except in the case of a couple of laws. The law concerning bride price (Exodus 22:16-17) indicates that part of the punishment for fornication with an unbetrothed woman is the payment of a “standard” bride price for virgins, indicating that the bride price was a normal part of the marriage process.

The bride price plays a significant function: It shows the woman’s value, and the point isn’t that the father gets the money but that he keeps it for his daughter, if her husband should ever abandon her

Vaughn Ohlman, Raw Story 25 Comments [5/6/2016 3:12:44 AM]
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Quote# 118769

•The Earth is flat, surrounded by ice, topped with a dome, and the sun and moon go around parallel to the earth. Neither is the sun nor the moon a sphere.

•There are stars but no outer space. Aliens are demons from inner space, not extraterrestrials from outer space.

•Every rocket or shuttle launch travels up to about 80,000 feet then levels off and ditches into the ocean, and a carefully crafted, identical prop shows up for the news cameras.

•Mankind has never gone to the moon, let alone walked on it. The “moon landings” were all staged events in movie studios. Both the sun and the moon were created by God to be light sources to the Earth, nothing more.

•Evolution as taught in the schools is a religious farce, a cruel joke, an outright blasphemous lie from those who hate God and the truth of God’s holy Word.

•All of the history books are full of brainwashing propaganda instead of proven facts.

•In 1963-’64, the public schools kicked God, the Bible and prayer out of children’s lives, satisfying the wicked pride of certain parents and plunging our future into spiritual darkness.

•The public school system has been teaching lies ever since, letting students’ grades slip but allowing them to graduate anyway. Hard work is avoided and shunned. Students are told that they are good even when they are bad, and vice versa. Teachers no longer teach, they indoctrinate.

•Nonsense like CERN, pandemics, and false flag events like 911 are designed by satanic fearmongers to subdue and submit those who are blind to the Truth of God’s Word and the truth of our own senses.

•Big Brother-type surveillance cameras are everywhere. We are being carefully watched, with facial and retinal scans becoming more commonplace, especially at the borders of our country. Personal privacy, like our God-given morals, is now a thing of the past.

•Jobs are being relocated overseas, which is why it’s so difficult to find a job here in the “Untied States.”

•McDonald’s, Walmart, and other major stores and restaurants are in bed with and working for the elite.

•The economy is imploding and the stock markets often show signs of plummeting. A cashless society is imminent.

•There are miles of underground tunnels and cities for the wealthy and powerful of society. They believe they will survive the onslaught of death to 90% of all humankind as inscripted on the Georgia Guidestones.

•People in general do not work in the Biblical sense, they have a job but take it for granted, or they merely survive on government welfare and are considered by some to be parasites to the failing economy.

•That many, if not all, of our leaders of this country have been/are Freemasons, even the ones who claim(ed) to be Christians.

•The superabundance of lies upon lies from the newsmedia, the entertainment industry, and Hollywood. Real truth, worldwise, is outlawed as lies and ignored.

•There is a handful of powerful elite (Illuminati, the “enlightened ones”) controlling the world and everything in it who are in alliance and directly under Satan, the god of this world, the prince of the power of the air.

•The in-your-face symbolism, such as the devil-horns, the six-six-six, the one hand covering one eye, the pyramid, etc., of allegiance to Satan from the entertainment industry, the newsmedia, government leaders, world bankers, and powerful heads of royalty.

•The sharp rise in wickedness and fulfillment of Biblical prophecy.

•I am determined more than ever to be a witness to the lost, to lead folks to Jesus Christ, the only Way to Heaven.

•I am determined more than ever to promote and live by the 1611 Authorized Version King James Bible.

•I am determined more than ever to attend and support my home church in every way God gives to me.

•Other bible versions, though easier to read, lack the spiritual power and authority of the KJB to convict hearts and save souls.

•World religionism cannot and will not allow true Biblical Christianity.

•Jesus Christ is blasphemously downplayed as weak and powerless, instead of the Omnipotent King of kings and Lord of lords that the Bible says He is. God is not “the man upstairs,” He is the Creator of all things, and your very life is in His hands.

•The signs of Antichrist’s impending arrival are part of every broadcast and are swallowed up by weak-minded people (sheeple).

•The “chip” (the mark of the Beast) is encouraged and thought of as “cool,” and will soon be mandatory.

•I realize that I may be and am persecuted for my faith.

kingjameswriter1965, I Hate The Internet But I Love Jesus 24 Comments [5/6/2016 3:10:21 AM]
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Quote# 53952

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Gee, I thought we were in a Global warming process...


so did I....that's why every time a politican or a scientist opens their fat mouth I take it with a BIG pinch of salt!! IT's the same with evolution!!!! That's why If I ever pass my driving test and get a car - I'm gonna drive as much as possible and rev the engine as much as possible!!

I'll be very very pleased if I can identify a single hole in the Ozone layer that I create! But it's a load of rubbish really!

sissco, ThEndTimes 54 Comments [12/10/2008 6:33:00 AM]
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Quote# 118640

vegans are closer to God - why meat eaters (the ungodly) see them as pompous

Vegans:
- being higher up on the sidereal food chain, having chosen to align with energy renewal that is more directly connected with God's source
- their DNA vibrating at a higher, lighter frequency - easily integrating the simple light geometry of fruits and vegetables directly into their open pineal glands and kundalini channels
- free of the common crisis found running rampant in the cellular reproduction attempts of the man who continues to consume the dead flesh and blood of once walking and speaking beings. free of demons.
- free of chronic gastrointestinal inflammation caused from the acidic condition of rotting flesh in the intestines, and free from having to pass uric acid, lactate, lesion-prone, hormone loaded, rotting "meat" (whatever the fuck "meat" is these days) through their asshole on a daily basis.

.. would likely be seen as "pompous" to an angry, bacon-eating asshole. The vegan seems condescending to the asshole, because technically the vegan is condescending and lives in a higher dimension of existence. It is not a negative thing to the vegan, the vegan would likely welcome the asshole in for a bean pie, whereas the asshole would just spew at the vegan for being skinny or gay. The Breatharian would seem condescending to the vegan if the vegan still had negative ego projections (more of a meat-existence program), but it's all good to the vegan if one wants to just live on air. Of course the herniated bacon eating asshole just wants to tell the vegan and breatharian to fuck off from their lower state and condition of being.

There is no problem as far as I am concerned. Things all just going along according to where people are at in life. Breatharians, vegans, and bacon-eating assholes all just getting along, singing campfire songs and passing on the all-beef hot dogs or vegan marshmallow smore's.

Anonymous Coward, Godlike Productions 28 Comments [5/2/2016 2:58:34 AM]
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Quote# 118770

These cucks are so cucked they can't see the bigger picture. If the Jews hate Trump he must be Doin something right

C-S-Memes4FashyGoys, Twitter 17 Comments [5/6/2016 3:10:37 AM]
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Quote# 102265

Druidism is the old time religion of England!!

Druidism is the old time religion of England and right now it is 3500 years old. When it was outlawed and suppressed by the Romans it went underground.

When Augustine and his Papal monks invaded Britain in 597, Druidism began to flourish again. By the time of the blessed Reformation, the Druids and their monks owned 1/3 of the land and had over 800 Druid monasteries.

Druidism began to flourish again with the arrival of Augustine from Rome in 597.

The only difference was the Druids now acknowledged the Papal Pontiff in Rome instead of their own Arch Druid.

Druidism received a mighty blow at the Reformation but continued its covert existence.

Human sacrifices continued in the Druid monasteries . . . but in the cellars . . . and not under the oak trees....Babies born in the monasteries, or recalcitrant monks or nuns who wanted to leave the abbeys, often ended up sacrificed with dreadful torments.

The infamous Black Book, detailing the monstrous monastical crimes, was presented to the Reformation Parliament in 1536. Unfortunately for posterity, it was destroyed during the reign of Bloody Mary Tudor.

Thank God that King Henry VIII suppressed the Druid dens of iniquity called monasteries and gave their lands to the people. It was the greatest transfer of land from the monks to the people until the French Revolution.

Charles Darwin was a deadly Druid whose myth of evolution has sent millions to Hades.

His #1 enemy was the Book of Genesis.

Russophobe Winston Churchill was another deadly Druid.

Churchill was desperate to destroy Russia and restore the Papal States to his Arch Druid in the Vatican!!

Churchill got the U.S. involved in World War II for 2 reasons: to defeat Russia and to restore the Papal States to his Arch Druid in the Vatican.

The Messiah's name is not Jesus, Hesus or Esus!!

Jerome received a lot of help from the Men of Oak when he produced the Latin Vulgate. This is not surprising because Emperor Constantine was born in Britain of a Druid mother named Helena.

Emperor Constantine was a British Druid GIANT who began his career of conquest from York, England.

Most of his army consisted of Romanized Britons.

His Druid advisers played a major role in setting up his Papal Roman Empire with the cross symbol.

Patrick Scrivener, Reformation 37 Comments [7/25/2014 3:00:25 AM]
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Quote# 118771

I have a dream, I have a real dream, that Donald Trump wins. Oh, do I have a dream. I have a dream that when Donald Trump wins, the new Justice Department goes after the ACLU. I have a dream that all the Marvins and the Glorias and all their ill-gotten gains will be seized by the government and they will either run for the hills or be thrown in the slammer. I have a dream that when Donald Trump becomes president, George Soros finds that there’s not a country on earth that he can hide in because he is hated around the world for what he has done to every currency on the planet. I have a dream.

Michael Savage, Right Wing Watch 29 Comments [5/6/2016 3:11:03 AM]
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Quote# 118746

I tend to find sluts fairly likeable, for the most part, especially those who are sluts because they enjoy riding the alpha carousel as opposed to those who are merely ideologically slutty due to their incoherent feminism. And yet, I don't shed any more tears over a slut getting raped than I do over a gambler winding up broke. It's not inevitable, but the odds are what they are.

Vox Day, Alpha Game 19 Comments [5/5/2016 3:05:14 AM]
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Quote# 118764

Ancient Shopping Lists Confirm God’s Word

When soldiers at a remote desert fortress in Judah penned their shopping lists (or, more accurately, their provisions lists) over 2,600 years ago, they probably did not think that archaeologists would be poring over their handwriting years later!

Using a computer algorithm program, researchers from Tel Aviv University have been studying these ancient lists of military provisions written on pieces of pottery (called ostraca).1 By analyzing the handwriting, they were able to deduce that at least six individuals were involved in writing these inscriptions. The inscriptions themselves are rather mundane, merely featuring instructions on what supplies to send to a remote desert fortress; but the writing is accurate and well done. Much of the writing was penned by rather low-ranking officials, suggesting that even humble soldiers serving in a remote corner of the country could both read and write.

Literate or Illiterate?

Scholars have long disputed the level of literacy among ancient Israelites. Many believe only the educated—scribes, priests, royalty, and the bureaucracy—were literate and that the general populace was unable to read and write. But Scripture implies that literacy would be a necessity, even among the general populace.

SCRIPTURE IMPLIES THAT LITERACY WOULD BE A NECESSITY, EVEN AMONG THE GENERAL POPULACE.

Genesis 5:1 mentions the “book of the generations of Adam” (using the normal Hebrew word for book or scroll), suggesting that Adam was created with the ability not only to speak but also to write. It also seems reasonable that the genealogical information in Genesis 5 and 11 was also written down. And given that Noah and his family built the Ark, is it likely that they could not write? The Israelites were commanded to write the commands of the Lord on their doorposts and bind them on their hands and foreheads (Deuteronomy 6:4–9, 11:18–20). If they could not read or write, what would be the point of these commands? When Joshua prepared to allot the inheritance to seven of the Israelite tribes, he asked each tribe to send out three men to survey the land. These men “wrote the survey in a book” (Joshua 18:9); they could read and write. And in Joshua’s farewell address, he commanded the people to obey everything written in the Book of the Law of Moses, implying they could read (Joshua 23:6). When King Hezekiah made the decision that Israel and Judah would again keep the Passover, he sent letters across the land to inform the people. This would have been useless if they could not read his letter (2 Chronicles 30:1). Other passages also suggest literacy among the ancient Israelites (Judges 8:14; 2 Kings 17:37; Psalm 102:18; Habakkuk 2:2).

Widespread Literacy Supports True Scriptural Timelines

This question of literacy may seem mundane and unimportant, but it is actually a very important discussion. Many scholars have used the illiteracy argument (among many other presuppositions) to assume that the vast majority of biblical texts were not written until after the Babylonians destroyed Jerusalem in 586 BC. They claim that the Old Testament, with the exception of some form of the Pentateuch, could not have been written prior to the exile to Babylon because most of the Israelite population was illiterate. Therefore it must have been written after the Babylonians, and later Persians, educated the Israelites.

This late dating of the Old Testament texts clashes with the biblical testimony that many texts were written as history happened or even before the event (prophetic). Most conservative biblical scholars who start with God’s Word believe the Old Testament record that the books were written by the persons associated with them or those who claim to have written them. They also accept that these books were written during the time period they claim to have been written in (e.g., the prophet Isaiah during the reigns of the pre-exilic kings Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah). If these books were not written until decades or even centuries after the events happened, the historicity, accuracy, and infallibility of the texts are called into question since they claim to have been written much earlier.

These ostraca researchers claim that their findings bear on the discussion of when the Old Testament books were written. They write, “However, widespread literacy offers a better background for the composition of ambitious works such as the Book of Deuteronomy and the history of Ancient Israel in the Books of Joshua to Kings.”2 They argue that, due to widespread literacy, many Old Testament books could have been written much earlier than is generally assumed by many liberal scholars.

Archaeology Again Corroborates Scripture

This new study supports the accuracy of God’s Word. It demonstrates that Israel was more literate than many scholars believe. This means that prophets—even prophets who were common folk such as Amos, a shepherd (Amos 1:1)—could have been literate and able to pen their writings.

IF HISTORY HAS TAUGHT ANYTHING, IT’S THAT EVENTUALLY RESEARCH AND SCIENCE WILL CONFIRM SCRIPTURE.

If history has taught anything, it’s that eventually research and science will confirm Scripture. We have an imperfect and incomplete understanding of history and science, but God’s Word was ultimately written by the God who was there and who never lies (Titus 1:2). Beginning with God’s Word, we have an accurate starting point for studying the world around us. When science or popular thought seems to contradict God’s Word, it is not God’s Word that needs modification, but rather our interpretations of the evidence.

The more we study the remains of lost civilizations, the more evidence will be found that, when properly understood, confirms God’s Word. As Christians, we can have full and utter confidence in the Word of our Lord.

Avery Foley, Answers in Genesis 11 Comments [5/6/2016 3:08:59 AM]
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Quote# 118773

A Missouri Republican called pregnancy that results from rape a “silver lining,” according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

State Rep. Tila Hubrecht was speaking in favor of a potential ballot measure that, if approved by voters, would grant unborn fetuses the same constitutional rights as American citizens.

“It is not up to us to say ‘no just because there was a rape, they cannot exist,’” Hubrecht said, during debate on the matter. “Sometimes bad things happen — horrible things, but sometimes God can give us a silver lining through the birth of a child.”

The measure would amend the state constitution by asking voters to “protect pregnant women and unborn children by recognizing that an unborn child is a person with a right to life which cannot be deprived by state or private action without due process and equal protection of law.”

Opponents say the results could be banning abortion in cases of rape or when the life of the mother is in jeopardy, and could also include outlawing of contraception.

Hubrecht also said she had complications during the birth of one of her children and had made the doctor promise to save the baby’s life even if it meant she would lose her own.

“When God gives life, he does so because there’s a reason, no matter what,” she said. “I’ve met and talked with the different people who have been conceived by rape. There is a reason for their life.”

Rep. Tila Hubrecht, Raw Story 17 Comments [5/6/2016 3:12:15 AM]
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Quote# 118647

So, do we need any more proof that trans activism is really conservative in nature, or is having Donald fucking rich asshole agree with them enough to convince everyone? Because seriously, if Some rich asshole is on your side, you’re almost definitely not on the right one.

(Relatedly, anyone else find it completely fucking disgusting that everyone continues to boil the North Carolina law down to “WAAH they won’t let men in the women’s bathrooms!!!” when the law also literally made it legal in North Carolina to discriminate against gay and lesbian people on the basis of sexuality? But I guess who honestly gives a fuck about gays and lesbians, there are men in dresses whose feelings might be hurt!!! PRIORITIES!!)

xwishyouwould, Tumblr 24 Comments [5/2/2016 3:06:36 AM]
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Quote# 118776



Rowdy Conservatives, Facebook 20 Comments [5/6/2016 3:20:26 AM]
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Quote# 118651

Chimpanzees Throwing Rocks: Religious Ritual or Testimony to God’s Design?

Do chimpanzees throwing rocks at trees prove they engage in religious ritual? Well, various media reports on one such study would certainly have us believe they do! The media has been buzzing with this story, and since we keep seeing news reports about it weeks later, I thought I would comment on the story.

Are Humans Animals?
Researchers studying chimpanzees in West Africa discovered a previously unknown behavior: chimpanzees, particularly the males, throw rocks at trees and into holes in trees. This throwing is accompanied by, among other things, hooting. These researchers suggest that perhaps this is evidence of ritualized behavior in chimpanzees. They also believe chimp behavior can shed light on human ancestry and how we supposedly developed religious rituals.

In a blog post, one of the researchers involved in the study says, “It could be more symbolic than [a dominance display]—and more reminiscent of our own past. Marking pathways and territories with signposts such as piles of rocks is an important step in human history. Figuring out where chimps' territories are in relation to rock throwing sites could give us insights into whether this is the case here. Even more intriguing than this, maybe we found the first evidence of chimpanzees creating a kind of shrine that could indicate sacred trees.”

Now from this study and the accompanying blog post, the media went wild with the idea that this somehow proves that chimpanzees have some kind of proto-religious belief that gave rise to religious rituals in early humans. Of course, this belief is nonsense. We aren’t related to chimpanzees, so their behavior teaches us nothing about what our supposed ancestors did. Humans were created in the image of God from the very beginning with both intelligence and knowledge of God. This knowledge did not need to evolve over time from some kind of ape-like ancestors.

The observational evidence shows that some chimpanzees hoot and throw rocks at holes in trees. The idea that it’s an example of proto-religious behavior or ritual is simply an interpretation (and a false one at that) of the evidence—and certainly not the likeliest interpretation. Those involved in the study note that there are other interpretations of the evidence, such as that this behavior is a display of dominance (chimps have long been known to drum on hollow tree roots to assert dominance) or that it serves as a communication function.

Now I don’t think that these chimps are throwing rocks at trees in some kind of religious ritual, but whatever this behavior is accomplishing, we can be sure that it has nothing to do with our supposed evolutionary ancestry! Because God created chimps—like many other creatures such as dolphins, dogs, and crows—to be intelligent, this somewhat creative display of dominance or communication is not surprising. It’s another example of animals using what’s in their environment to accomplish a task.

Scripture does poetically talk about animals knowing their Creator and creation praising God but never in the context of ritual or shrines; therefore it seems highly unlikely that these chimps are recognizing God in their behavior. Humans, alone made in God’s image, are the only beings in God’s creation capable of communicating with Him and having a relationship with Him. However, the psalmist writes,

Praise Him, sun and moon;
Praise Him, all you stars of light!
Praise Him, you heavens of heavens,
And you waters above the heavens!

Let them praise the name of the Lord,
For He commanded and they were created. . . .

Praise the Lord from the earth,
You great sea creatures and all the depths;
Fire and hail, snow and clouds;
Stormy wind, fulfilling His word;
Mountains and all hills;
Fruitful trees and all cedars;
Beasts and all cattle;
Creeping things and flying fowl. . . .

Let them praise the name of the Lord,
For His name alone is exalted;
His glory is above the earth and heaven. (Psalm 148:3–5, 7–10, 13)


All of creation—from the moon and stars to the insects and fruit trees—praises and proclaims the glory of God. Instead of seeing some kind of evolutionary significance to chimpanzees throwing rocks, these researchers should join with all of creation giving praise to the Lord Jesus Christ who made the earth and everything in it for His glory.

Thanks for stopping by and thanks for praying,
Ken

This item was written with the assistance of AiG’s research team.

Ken Ham, Answers in Genesis 50 Comments [5/2/2016 3:55:17 AM]
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Quote# 118775

How is Abortion good?

One: It lets some people enjoy procreation without having to raise a child.

Two: It lets rapists get away with their crime without any consequence.

Three: It helps make income for the abortion mills who would otherwise have to find another job.

Four: It makes population control easier for eugenists and racists.

Five: It helps abusive boyfriends/husbands keep women in line.

Six: It lets sex traffickers keep using women as chattel without a baby getting in the way.

Then again…I guess that’s bad. But it’s true nonetheless.

Lovekindnessmercycompassion, Tumblr 20 Comments [5/6/2016 3:20:16 AM]
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Quote# 18958

(There are soooo many people that are quite simply smarter and more intelligent than you. GET THE FUCK OVER IT.)

u wish, you are a crack whore, your picture proves my point cari, you will never win. Abortion is wrong, and God backs me on this woman. I (speaking as myself) hope you are tortured and raped, then slaughtered.

crip <3, Myspace 52 Comments [1/4/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 118752

The Hebrew word for “rod” literally means “to branch off” (literally, a stick); and the word “reproof” means “to chasten” (figurative, by words). Did you know that God put that padded area in the back of every child for a reason?

That's right! God padded the buttocks for the purpose of spanking. It is not Biblical to physically abuse any human being, but a good whipping across the buttocks never killed any child. The Bible teaches for parents to spank a child when they do wrong.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 34 Comments [5/5/2016 3:17:38 AM]
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Quote# 118656

The age of feminism is over, thankfully. The comments here that support feminism are from the rats that refuse to leave the sinking ship, thinking there’s sustenance still to be found there somewhere. Sorry to disappoint, but there is nothing nutritious left.
Men the world over are waking up to the damage wrought by rampant feminism and they’re shocked to realise it all happened while they were asleep. Well, they’re asleep no more. Bleat all you like about feminism being about this or that, but the truth of it’s evil is written all over the once noble institutions of the world and the wishful bleatings of solipsistic girl-children can’t erase it. It is done. The cailphate is establishing its power base once more and Sharia law is spreading.
Feminists have destroyed the family and have eschewed child-bearing in favour of credentialism and the illusion of success, killing their unborn children and robbing men of their will to be fathers and husbands. The laugh is on you, Western feminists, as Western birth rates have at last fallen below their replenishment rate and the Muslims are laughing all the way to the maternity wards.
The best you can hope for, Western women, is to abandon feminism entirely. Abandon that idiotic notion of ‘equality’, as it will never happen. All it has earned you is the disrespect of men and an increasing number of women the world over. Feminism doesn’t make you strong. It doesn’t make you powerful. It doesn’t make you free. And it sure as hell doesn’t make you equal. It just makes you despicable.

autism420, Kiwi Farms 36 Comments [5/2/2016 5:45:23 PM]
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Quote# 118734

Far too many children are suffering because of the sins of their very own mother. The church overall refuses to address this, but it’s a serious issue.

Single mother homes are really an ungodly counterfeit of what God intended to be a true family. If the father is not the center and head of the family; then it’s not a family.

Too many in the church come from dysfunctional family trees; where single mother households are the norm AND have occurred generationally. The dysfunction is so normal that no one ever questions or realizes that the tree is sick and not bearing good fruit.

In order to function properly as a family unit (as God intended), you must have a father present in the house, and be legally married.

Family trees where grandma (or great-grandma) was a single mother; where auntie was also a single mother; and even female cousins are single mothers; indicate there’s a serious spiritual issue—and shows the mother is rebellious toward God’s standards.

Here’s a hard bitter truth: A rebellious woman can only produce bad fruit. Bad fruit dishonors God. And if you continuously produce bad fruit, there is no place for you in the Kingdom of God.

This is serious, and nothing to take lightly. Because what you choose to do with your children directly impacts your salvation and your longevity in this world.

CHURCH LEADERS: we plead with you to begin teaching the unadulterated Word of God. Call out sin; don’t shy away from uprooting demons out of your church. Get rid of the weeds, so the flowers can flourish.

We need healthy women (who will submit their whole self to living out the Word of God). This means stop sleeping around with random men. Be a true woman of God and get married.

The scary thing is Jesus gave us a clear example of what he will do to ‘trees’ that don’t produce the good fruit that he desires. He will curse it; and it will wither away and die. Or he will simply just chop it down. (Matthew 21:18-19; and John 15:2)

We already see many women and their children dying because of this satanic dysfunction. Just do a google search and you will see…make sure this doesn’t end up being your reality.

When will whole families become the norm, specifically in the Black Church...

Eden Decoded, Facebook 17 Comments [5/5/2016 2:58:36 AM]
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Quote# 118761

Seeing the desperation of so many middle-aged women out in flyover country has opened my eyes and humbled me. It’s very sad. These are really harmless, vulnerable people, and they’ve been roughed up by this free movement of capital and labor something awful. Charles Murray likes to blame this on the guys who supposedly won’t support them, but in my circles the women totally depend on the men and have little to offer in return. If anything really separates the white working class from the upper middle class it’s the incomes (and, unfortunately, the behavior) of the women in the respective positions. Blue collar working men are no slouches, they make decent money and in person they’re generally more impressive than their office-dwelling counterparts (this is probably a hidden aspect of Trump’s support — he has these guys behind him, and if he can get a few thousand of them to show up in one place, it’s going to seriously intimidate rivals). The women, well, they screw up a lot and have to be rescued over and over. They get a good job and are about ten times as likely to ditch it and try to file a lawsuit. The guys are always pulling them up and out of ditches they run into. The white death, IMO, is a measure of the disposable income of the men in any given community (if you check the census data I can all but guarantee that there’s a strong correlation there). The less they have, the less they can afford to help out the women around them, who somehow always seem to need help.

Bill P, Unz 17 Comments [5/5/2016 3:21:18 AM]
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Quote# 118725

[I'll gladly remain a virgin if it takes forcing myself on someone just to get laid.]

Then you are fucking insane. This is like some Christian saying that you'd rather be starving than eating at a McDonalds set in what was once a Church. Modern women hate men who are virgins and love rape.

Caamib, Atheist Forums 47 Comments [5/4/2016 3:11:45 AM]
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Quote# 118676

Many of you are slowly being initiated into witchcraft through unknowingly participating in occult activity.

Tattoos, piercings, horoscopes, fornication, masturbation, using dildos and other sexual objects, yoga, tantra, watching occult-based movies such as Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Harry Potter, etc; and listening to secular music such as pop, rock, and especially hip hop: are opening people up like never before to having actual encounters with real demonic spirits.

These are but a sampling of the different ways people are being led down a dark path into the world of the occult. People are literally being initiated into witchcraft, and they don't even know it. And in case you were not aware: you can also be initiated into witchcraft through SEX.

Some of you have literally laid with witches unawares, thinking you were just having a good time.

But that witch actually imparted something spiritual into you that has been attached to your life ever since. And this is most likely what has been keeping some of you from getting married, staying married, having stable income, or being able to prosper at anything for any length of time.

This type of demonic initiation that happens through sex also manifests in the form of reproductive health problems, a recurring infection, mental or emotional health issues, depression, suicidal thoughts, substance abuse, sexual addictions, nightmares, night visitations and sleep paralysis, etc.

Witchcraft is real. And one of the most effective ways to establish covenants within witchcraft is via sex.

Far too many Christians remain oblivious to the methods Satan is using to stifle their gifts, callings and the purpose that is on their lives. He knows that if he can get a believer into sexual sin, he can attach a demon to them: sometimes even for life.

I do my best to expose these things here on my blog, on my Facebook page, as well as through the various ebooks that I write and make available to the public. You can download these at any time right here on this website.

I'm warning you about these things because the occult realm really does exist; and Satan's tools are NOT to be played with. Holy living is your only shield against the demonic in this evil day.

Be mindful of the type of music you listen to, the movies and TV shows that you watch, the books that you read, and the types of other seemingly harmless things people often do (like yoga and getting tatted up for instance); without any awareness that those things are also subtle doorways through witch demons gain the right to access a person's body and mind.

And don't just be a Christian: be an enlightened Christian. Read. Educate yourself. Buy books. Study the Word of God like your life depends on it. Because it does!

Make it your mission to know why fornication is wrong in the eyes of God. Know why there is such a big push in society for homosexuality to now be out in the open. Be aware why 7 out of every 10 movies released from Hollywood now feature some element of witchcraft, demonic activity and the occult.

In fact, know why Hollywood is even called Holly-wood in the first place! FYI: the holly tree was the sacred tree from which witches and warlocks (male witches) made their magic wands.

So "holly" "wood" is none other than the magic wand of witches used to cast spells over the unsuspecting. That has always been the purpose for making movies. Entertainment is just a modern form of spell-casting and bewitching.

For instance: I was watching one of those "Hobbit" movies not too long ago, and it blew me away when several of the characters started speaking in demonic tongues right there in the middle of the movie!

Who knows what spells or incantations were being cast during that scene? I couldn't even enjoy watching the movie after that demonic sneak attack.

And if you're a Christian who thinks you are immune to the occult simply because grace covers you, and therefore that makes it okay for you to watch or listen to it: you're only fooling yourself. Satan will make a slave of you if you keep engaging in his stuff!

Spiritual wickedness is coming HARD these days. Meanwhile, Christians are busy having debates over how 'nice' a person's tone should be when warning others to turn away from sin and darkness.

Avoid fornication. Quit masturbating. Turn off the TV set and spend that time studying your Bible.

Turn down that #6 value meal every once in a while, and spend the evening fasting and in prayer. Find a good church and stick with it. Up your godly spiritual power!

And whatever you do: stop entertaining yourself with demonic stuff! This is for you horror movie hip hop tattoo-loving "saints." Ask yourself: why are you so attracted and drawn to dark and demonic spiritual things?

Some of you need deliverance, and you don't even realize it. But that's okay. Just stick around a little longer, and those demons will run screaming out of your life before you know what hit you.

Make sure to download my ebooks if you want a deeper education on these sort of things. And whatever you do: draw closer to Jesus in this hour like never before. My ebooks will help.

Satan has pulled out all the stops. And only those who are rooted in Jesus Christ can withstand the onslaught of evil that's coming. God bless.

Mack Major, Eden Decoded 24 Comments [5/3/2016 3:04:45 AM]
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Quote# 118677

(We are not "owed" anything. We as a society must make sure that these needs are met for all Whites. But nobody is "owed" friendship and sexual intimacy, for example. No woman "owes" me sex.)

Men need sex whether they are owed it or not. It is a basic need just like talking to someone and all men are owed it.

Women as I now assume you are one, say that men are not owed sex for the listed reasons.

1. Women say this hope to stop males from wanting sex. They don't comprehend that men need sex whether they're entitled to it or not, but that's not what feminists believe, they believe sex is some big conspiracy made by the patriarchy to oppress women and if men just learned they aren't entitled to sex, they wouldn't want it anymore.

Men aren't entitled to sex or love from us! = Feminism speaking.

You aren't entitled to a girlfriend! = Feminism speaking

TND, Stormfront.com 45 Comments [5/3/2016 3:22:53 AM]
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Quote# 118678

THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM NO ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT
Pants On Women - Is That All There Is To It?

Same-sex marriage, mothers no longer working in the home, families going their separate ways with no time together, the feminization of men, the masculinization of women. These are the things I see as I look out over the landscape of our country. I find myself asking, "Where has manhood gone?" and "Where has femininity gone?"

As I read the messages preached and the books written by my mentor, Dr. Jack Hyles, I sense in him a concern for the direction in which our country was moving with regards to manhood and womanhood. He even preached a sermon, which later was published in booklet form, on the subject of the unisex movement.

Today we seldom even think about it yet so many of the things about which he warned us have now come true and for the most part we have accepted them. We have lost the distinction between the sexes. We've lost the pride of masculinity and femininity. In fact, society derides both.

Perhaps nothing has brought more criticism to Dr. Hyles than did his strict position on women wearing pants for those in church leadership. He never wavered on that position, however he never treated women who wore pants with disrespect or unkindness. He NEVER made the issue of a woman wearing pants as proof of whether or not she was a Christian, or whether or not she loved the Lord. The issue really was not as much about the individual as it was with the whole.

He saw us moving away from the distinctiveness of the sexes towards a homogenous sameness that he felt was wrong. He saw the issue in ways that others did not. It was more of a philosophy that he preached. Deuteronomy 22:5 meant more to him than just a matter of women wearing pants. It stood for something much bigger. It stood for the fact that men should dress like men and women like women. Even in Bible days the distinctions were very clear and he wanted for them to remain clear in our day.

Did we somehow become lost and confused as to what the issue was really about? Does it really not matter if men dress differently than women and women than men? Is it really important that there be a distinctiveness between masculinity and femininity? The issue wasn't as much about pants as it was principle. He was looking at a much bigger picture than most. Perhaps we saw the issue to vaguely. Perhaps we missed the point entirely.

Many men who once agreed on the issue of pants have now changed their position. Perhaps the position was too small or too narrow in the first place. Perhaps pants in and of themselves was not the issue. Perhaps the real issue was the matter of the distinctiveness between the attire of men and women. Pants gave us a focal point for the real issue, which was that men ought to dress like men and women like women.

Has that changed? Does it matter? Should we care if boys dress like girls? Should it matter to us if girls dress like boys? Is it really relevant? There has always been a focal issue that rallied us behind a principle. Long hair on men rallied us against rebellion, which was the bigger issue. Pants was the focal point for the principle of women not dressing like men. Yet when it comes to the issue of women wearing pants we seem to have missed the point. What is the point? The point is the Bible principle.

What is the Bible principle? The principle is that men should dress like men and women should dress like women. Has that changed or is the Bible still true? Should men wear clothing that pertains to a woman? Should women wear clothing that pertains to a man?

If you are an honest person you will have to admit that females in public have taken the half off sale seriously. Hip hugging skinny jeans revealing mid riffs. I travel every week of the world around this great nation of ours. It is embarrassing for a man who is doing the best he can to keep his heart right with all of the female flesh on display.

Then I go into some of our churches and find myself wondering who is standing for the Bible principle of distinction in God's house. The decline of American morality is reflected in our distinction. The decline of our churches is also reflected in our dress distinction. 50 years ago it was not so in public and for sure it was not so in our churches.

The Mrs. Cleaver look was in almost every home in 1950's. Not so in either the home or the house of God, in a lot of cases, in this new Millennium. If God wanted a distinction in the Old Testament how much more does He desire it in the New Testament.

Murder was brought to a higher level and was identified in the word "hate." (Matthew 5:21-22) Adultery was brought to a higher level by Jesus Himself in the New Testament to the word "lust." (Matthew 5:28) This "second mile" level we find in the New Testament I am afraid is certainly not prevalent in this new Millennium.

Distinction was brought to a higher level in the New Testament. (I Timothy 2:9) Deuteronomy 22:5 has been elevated to "modest" clothing. No skinny jeans here! The Bible principle is for today.

So, if the principle is still true why are we criticizing those who took a stand regarding women wearing pants? I for one must allow others to disagree on the issue, but I'm concerned when they ignore the importance of the Bible principle upon which we built that position. If we lose the principle then we lose the purity of the Scripture.

If we begin to criticize those who took a stand then we should be explaining how we then are carrying out that principle. What should women wear that which a man shouldn't? What should men wear that women shouldn't? Does it matter? It has to because it is covered in his word.

Should we fight over the issue of pants? No, however many of the ones who are fighting the most are the ones who are fighting against those who took or still take that stand. I do not fight the women who wear pants or the preachers who allow it nearly as much as they fight me.

They don't know my heart because they haven't taken the time to understand why I take my position. My position on this issue is based on principle not preference. I am tolerant of those who disagree with my application but should we be tolerant to those who ignore the principle entirely?

The principle is not up for debate, so why would you criticize my commitment to a principle even though you may not like my application of that principle? The principle is that men are to dress like men and women like women and there must be some distinction.

What is the distinction? If you tell me my position is wrong then simply explain to me what the distinction is that you are making between the attire of men and the attire of women. I'll be satisfied with that.

If you're going to criticize me because I have put some kind of distinction into the principle then tell me what your distinction is based upon that same principle. Whether Deuteronomy 22:5 means pants on women or not it must mean something? What does it mean? Explain it.

Don't tell me that men wore robes in the Bible as your excuse? Trust me, the attire of men and the attire of women in those days was very distinctive. There was no question as to what was a man's clothing and what was a woman's clothing. My challenge to you is not proof of whether pants on women is right or wrong but whether or not you know what it means to you.

Let's face it the breaking down between the sexes has taken place. We no longer have the distinctions we once had between men and women including the way they dress. Dr. Hyles and others warned us of this danger more than they warned us of women wearing pants. He warned us of the danger of losing the distinction between the sexes. Pants was a symptom of the issue, but many have turned this against those who warned of the true danger.

We've been called legalists because of a standard based upon a Scriptural principle found in Deuteronomy 22:5. We were not trying to set the standard for everyone. There was a time when public schools made the same distinction and female students were prohibited from wearing pants. There was a time when only women that society considered loose wore pants.

I'm not suggesting that's true today, but what I am suggesting there is a Bible principle that we are not discussing honestly. Those who take a position are being ridiculed by those who have no position on a very clear principle.

I remember in 1959 when the PTA of our public school held a meeting discussing whether or not they should promote a "Slack Friday" for the girl students. I have often wondered why they did not allow "Skirt Friday" for the boy students? Now in the public work places it is "Slack Week."

Tell me pastor what should women wear, or does it matter? What should men wear? Does it matter? This is not legalism. This is applying principles to our lives. There's a legitimate reason that we took the positions we took. I'm saddened by the condition of our country, but I am not surprised. Same sex marriage is a result of the casual way we have dealt with issues in our country and even in many churches.

This smacks of a "oneness" move in fundamentalism that wants to absorb all issues into a "distinctness lessoning" position. I read the BLOGS and it worries me that if you take a contrary stand or an aggressive stand on issues you are causing the cause to not dwell in unity. We are not Catholics! We are not a part of a "universal body." When the cause becomes greater than the truth we are on a downward spiral spiritually.

We are a nation that has completely lost its mind and its morality. Yet we are criticizing men who say women shouldn't wear pants, because women are commanded to dress differently than men? How dare you be so concerned about a man who preaches against women wearing pants that you neglect to acknowledge that the distinction between the sexes has been broken. Yet, it is a distinction God gave us.

So, now I put the responsibility back on your shoulders. Tell us what to do? If there's no problem then there's nothing to worry about, but I think we all know there is a problem. Dr. Hyles was right. The unisex movement is a satanic pursuit to blur the lines between the roles and identity of men and women. How do we fix it? What's the standard going to be? Is there going to be no standard? I think it's time to give it a second thought.

If the pastor's wife has no distinction in her dress, then no wonder the pastor has lock-jaw and is like the Ant-Artica and frozen at the mouth. This makes it difficult to lead a local church let alone a movement.

Christians who believe in traditional marriage were shocked at the in your face sodomy display at the NFL draft. The truth is they may have to look in the mirror and figure out what happened to the distinction of the sexes as having laid the foundation for this and other woes. This is NOT hate speech, this is Scriptural speech. We are losing ground because we have lost the distinctiveness God gave us!

Bob Gray Sr, Solve Church Problems 24 Comments [5/3/2016 3:23:26 AM]
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Quote# 118680

No, life does not begin at conception. When life begins is determined by pro-aborts using a Ouija board. Generally, the supernatural event defining the beginning of life that magically occurs sometime during pregnancy can be found by taking the moment of abortion and adding 5 minutes to it, thus alleviating the guilt of the abortionist, abortive woman, and bro-choicer who dragged her into the abortuary.

"Life is a continuum. Life on earth has started a few billion years ago and didn't stop since then. Or are you claiming sperm and egg cells are not alive? It would surprise me if scientists from Northwestern University really stated that 'Life begins with a “flash of light” or “fireworks"'. And it would really surprise me if abortionist used this silly argument."

Confusing sperm and egg cells with a conceived human shows how science-phobic you are, John. It seems to be a Hail Mary effort lately by pro-aborts to equate sperm to a human being and claim that masturbation is genocide. It must be difficult for the superstitious ones to accept that they were once zygotes, embryos, fetuses. For those of us who actually do science - and understand the difference between sperm and humans:

“Fertilization is the process by which male and female haploid gametes (sperm and egg) unite to produce a genetically distinct individual.” Signorelli et al., Kinases, phosphatases and proteases during sperm capacitation, CELL TISSUE RES. 349(3):765 (Mar. 20, 2012)

"Human development begins after the union of male and female gametes or germ cells during a process known as fertilization (conception). "Fertilization is a sequence of events that begins with the contact of a sperm (spermatozoon) with a secondary oocyte (ovum) and ends with the fusion of their pronuclei (the haploid nuclei of the sperm and ovum) and the mingling of their chromosomes to form a new cell. This fertilized ovum, known as a zygote, is a large diploid cell that is the beginning, or primordium, of a human being." [Moore, Keith L. Essentials of Human Embryology. Toronto: B.C. Decker Inc, 1988, p.2]

"The development of a human being begins with fertilization, a process by which two highly specialized cells, the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female, unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote." [Langman, Jan. Medical Embryology. 3rd edition. Baltimore: Williams and Wilkins, 1975, p. 3]

“Human life begins at fertilization, the process during which a male gamete or sperm (spermatozoo developmentn) unites with a female gamete or oocyte (ovum) to form a single cell called a zygote. This highly specialized, totipotent cell marked the beginning of each of us as a unique individual.” “A zygote is the beginning of a new human being (i.e., an embryo).” Keith L. Moore, The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 7th edition. Philadelphia, PA: Saunders, 2003. pp. 16, 2.

“Your baby starts out as a fertilized egg… For the first six weeks, the baby is called an embryo.” Prenatal Care, US Department Of Health And Human Services, Maternal and Child Health Division, 1990

Landrum B. Shettles, M.D., P.h.D. was first scientist to succeed at in vitro fertilization:

“The zygote is human life….there is one fact that no one can deny; Human beings begin at conception.”

“The zygote and early embryo are living human organisms.”

Keith L. Moore & T.V.N. Persaud Before We Are Born – Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects (W.B. Saunders Company, 1998. Fifth edition.) Page 500

Ronan O’Rahilly and Fabiola Miller, Human Embryology and Teratology, 3rd edition. New York: Wiley-Liss, 2001. p. 8.

“Although life is a continuous process, fertilization… is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new genetically distinct human organism is formed when the chromosomes of the male and female pronuclei blend in the oocyte.”

“[All] organisms, however large and complex they might be as full grown, begin life as a single cell. This is true for the human being, for instance, who begins life as a fertilized ovum.”

Dr. Morris Krieger “The Human Reproductive System” p 88 (1969) Sterling Pub. Co

“The first cell of a new and unique human life begins existence at the moment of conception (fertilization) when one living sperm from the father joins with one living ovum from the mother. It is in this manner that human life passes from one generation to another. Given the appropriate environment and genetic composition, the single cell subsequently gives rise to trillions of specialized and integrated cells that compose the structures and functions of each individual human body. Every human being alive today and, as far as is known scientifically, every human being that ever existed, began his or her unique existence in this manner, i.e., as one cell. If this first cell or any subsequent configuration of cells perishes, the individual dies, ceasing to exist in matter as a living being. There are no known exceptions to this rule in the field of human biology.”

James Bopp, ed., Human Life and Health Care Ethics, vol. 2 (Frederick, MD: University Publications of America, 1985)

“Zygote, fertilized egg cell that results from the union of a femalegamete (egg, or ovum) with a male gamete (sperm). In the embryonic development of humans and other animals, the zygote stage is brief and is followed by cleavage, when the single cell becomes subdivided into smaller cells.

The zygote represents the first stage in the development of a genetically unique organism. The zygote is endowed with genes from two parents, and thus it is diploid (carrying two sets of chromosomes). The joining of haploid gametes to produce a diploid zygote is a common feature in the sexual reproduction of all organisms except bacteria.

"Although life is a continuous process, fertilization (which, incidentally, is not a 'moment') is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new genetically distinct human organism is formed when the chromosomes of the male and female pronuclei blend in the oocyte." - Ronan O'Rahilly and Fabiola Müller, Human Embryology and Teratology, 3rd edition. New York: Wiley-Liss, 2001. p. 8.

"It is the penetration of the ovum by a spermatozoan and resultant mingling of the nuclear material each brings to the union that constitutes the culmination of the process of fertilization and marks the initiation of the life of a new individual." - Clark Edward Corliss, Patten's Human Embryology: Elements of Clinical Development. New York: McGraw Hill, 1976. p. 30.

You're welcome. Embrace science, do not fear it.

"It seems you are confused here, World. You are the one claiming life starts at conception. Nothing in your post supports that notion. You even mention a source that says 'Although life is a continuous process ...'.
Thanks for admitting that your argument was rather silly."


"You are the one claiming life starts at conception."

And I just proved it using peer-reviewed medical and biological sources, unlike the superstitious one that you are.

"You even mention a source that says 'Although life is a continuous process ...'."

Read on, Child, there is more where you conveniently put the ...:

"fertilization (which, incidentally, is not a 'moment') is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new genetically distinct human organism is formed when the chromosomes of the male and female pronuclei blend in the oocyte.""

Still waiting for your evidence that you were never a zygote, embryo, or fetus.

"No need. You claimed 'life starts at conception'. Your evidence does not show that. It shows life is a continuum - conception is merely a milestone in the formation of a new individual - a crucial one, but certainly not the only one. Your silly argument for not allowing abortion because 'life starts at conception' therefore ends here."

I gave you peer-reviewed science, and you reply with feeewwwings?!?

Still waiting for your proof that you were not a zygote, embryo, and fetus. This won't take long, will it? :-)


WorldGoneCrazy, Christian News Network 18 Comments [5/3/2016 3:23:42 AM]
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