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Quote# 114927

[On the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood mass shooting/hostage taking attack]

Per the FBI definition, abortion clinics and those who run them fits "domestic terrorism" to the tee. Those who work for them are complicit and accomplices to these murdering terrorists. To the tune of 3000 unborn babies per day. Be not deceived, their reservations in Hell have already been confirmed.

Watchman on the Wall, Yahoo! Comments 12 Comments [11/30/2015 4:24:27 PM]
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Quote# 104276

I have and I still believe I'd have sex with a woman against her consent. The difference now is that when I wrote that I thought that rape is forceful sex against a woman's consent. I was wrong, since I didn't know enough history and was brainwashed my feminist propaganda. Rape is a crime against women's owner or her chastity and consent is irrelevant for women. In fact, should you expect it you're bound to be seen as a complete loser by a woman. All that anti-rape propaganda is actually aimed to keep dumbasses who believe women even want to consent away from getting any sex whatsoever.

So while I'd still forcibly have a sex with a woman I'd never rape, since I wouldn't have forcible sex with a woman who is somebody's property or chaste.

caamib, Why, God, Why? 177 Comments [10/23/2014 3:21:57 AM]
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Quote# 114928

(continuing to deny evolution)

"What I have are facts." "Evolution explains how living things change over a long time" A time noboby observed, they BELIEVE that's how it happened - faith, as there are NO FACTS proving that's what happened. A cow slowly turning into a whale is just a fairytale.

"We know that living things have changed over time, because we can see their remains in the rocks. These remains are called 'fossils'." Hardly, you have faith that whatever you see is not merely an extinct or undiscovered creature, you can't even prove it procreated let alone "evolved" into anything.
"S o we know that the animals and plants of today are..." No you BELIEVE that's what happened - faith again. It's not proven by anything.

Evolutionism shoves any "evidence" into a preconceived box, and whatever doesn't fit is tossed out. Two people are in a room and suddenly it goes dark, the evolutionist would claim the other person in the room turned the light out completely ignoring any other possibilities because they are so emotionally vested in believing it could never be the bulb that burned out.

Yet again exploding dot boy/girl/whatever, ad hominem attacks o n others STILL doesn't prove your religion.

You website is a laughable joke, "Facts" "This is very strong evidence..." hardly a fact.
1. The universal genetic code. Could also be "very strong evidence" of a common designer.
2. The fossil record. I covered that, no proof there.
3. Genetic commonalities. See number 1.
4. Common traits in embryos. "all these life forms have gill slits" FRAUD ALERT, it's folds of skin, humans never had and never will have "gill slits" And they call that crap "science".
5. Bacterial resistance to antibiotics. Yet it's still bacteria which revert back to their original state when the adaptation is no longer needed. If anything it's proof evolution NEVER happened.
What else do you have?

Oboehner, Christian News Network 10 Comments [11/30/2015 4:24:32 PM]
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Quote# 114925

(1-star review for the show Transparent)

I tried watching this show but it just seems like another push by the media industry to force me to be ok with something I personally am not ok with. First they pushed for homosexuality to be the norm now it is transexuality. What will be the next step once everyone sympathizes and every gender is having sex with every gender not knowing which gender is which. I imagine thanks to hollywood my kids kids will be watching shows about beastiality and after they win that battle i am sure the next push will be for pedophiles to be the norm. What happened to the normal being the norm.

E.H., Amazon 9 Comments [11/30/2015 4:23:15 PM]
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Quote# 114940

The only thing wrong with these wasted sacks of flesh getting shot is that the shooter missed their heads. Also now they’re going to get more attention and more undeserved sympathy.

BLM is a terrorist group, plain and simple. If you want to go around the country inciting racial division and violence against whites and the police, harassing and physically attacking people, and systematically trying to silence and economically harm anyone who disagrees with your racist extremism, especially on college campuses, don’t be surprised when someone stands up to your shit.

There is little to no difference to this event than if a KKK protest in full garb walking down the streets of Chicago holding nooses and burning crosses got shot at.

Hell, even a KKK march is more innocent than these people. Even the protesters admitted that they physically struck and chased down the guys with the gun before they fired at them.

Paradoxed, Know Your Meme 11 Comments [11/30/2015 4:28:11 PM]
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Quote# 114117

Five Things Everyone Should Know

Well, here are the five things that Bill Nye says everyone needs to know about climate change:

Number One: Our Atmosphere

#1: The atmosphere is thin. Barely 60 miles, 100 kilometres, in outer space.

Now, we shouldn’t be concerned about our atmosphere being too thin because our atmosphere was designed by the perfect Creator. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t take care of it—we certainly need to make sure we don’t fill our atmosphere with pollutants or punch holes in the ozone layer. But we also need to remember that our atmosphere was carefully put in place by our Creator. God knew exactly what kind of atmosphere we needed and He gave us that atmosphere. He even made Earth the perfect size to be able to hold this atmosphere! We can be confident that we have the perfect atmosphere for our planet.

Number Two: All the People

#2: There’s 7.3 billion people breathing and burning.

Now, I would like to know what Bill Nye would suggest we do about the number of people utilizing our atmosphere. Of course, since Nye is an atheist, he rejects the idea that there is a God who knew the end from the beginning (Isaiah 46:10) when He created Earth. If Nye accepted God’s Word and God’s sovereignty, he would know that the all-powerful God would not allow humanity to die off by climate change or anything else. Nye also therefore rejects God’s Word as a basis for value, purpose, and meaning in life. Does he realize that, from his atheistic perspective, man is just an evolved animal and, in being consistent with an evolutionary “survival of the fittest” worldview, population alarmists could suggest mass killings or forced sterilizations as possible solutions in reducing the population? I’m sure he would be aghast at such suggestions—but then on what basis does he anchor his morality and determine what is ultimately right and wrong in this world? It comes down to one’s worldview. What solutions are there in Nye’s game of “blame man and his increasing population”?

Furthermore, this overpopulation mantra is losing support even from mainstream sociologists. In fact, some researchers are lamenting the possibility of a disastrous population decline. I remember studying books at university 40 years ago that were claiming the world was overpopulated! (And by the way, as you fly across countries around the world as much as I do and look down below, you realize the world is not overpopulated!) There are many other issues in regard to population, starvation, and so on, but that’s a different discussion altogether.

Number Three: Temperatures Changing

#3: All this heat energy in the atmosphere is changing things. It’s not just getting warmer, it’s changing.

Our climate is indeed changing but this is nothing new. Temperatures have been changing since the time of the catastrophic Flood of Noah’s day around 4,350 years ago. For example, during medieval times there was the Little Ice Age and it lasted until around 1850. The temperature has been rising since then. But before the Little Ice Age there was a warming trend that made it possible to farm the now icy waste of Greenland. Climates change! But we don’t have to be worried that the climate is going to run out of control and cause catastrophic changes. God has promised,

While the earth remains,
Seedtime and harvest,
Cold and heat,
Winter and summer,
And day and night
Shall not cease.
(Genesis 8:22)

Number Four: Rising Oceans

#4: This warmth is making the ocean get bigger. . . . When the ocean rises just this much [a few inches], this whole area will be under water, and not just this area, that area, that’s Miami.

Are ocean levels really going to rise dramatically and catastrophically because of man-made CO2 emissions?

It should be noted that evolutionists believe in many ice ages over Earth’s history. These ice ages, in the evolution model, would have dramatically dropped ocean levels, which would then have risen during the interglacial periods. In this view of Earth’s history, this happened many, many times without being caused by humans. Now, of course, biblical creationists reject this idea of multiple ice ages because we start with the true history in God’s Word. The Bible records the event of the global Flood of Noah’s Day. This Flood, and accompanying events such as massive volcanic activity, produced the perfect conditions for an Ice Age. This Ice Age lowered ocean levels for a time before they rose again as the continental ice sheets melted. So changes in sea level are not unprecedented in either an evolutionary or biblical model.

The idea of drastic ocean rise is debated among scientists. For instance, scientists and scholars involved with the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change reject the idea of alarming sea-level rise. Indeed, a writer for Forbes notes that in the past the biblical city of Ephesus was a bustling port city but is now four miles from the sea, and that “the old Roman port Ostia Antica located where the Tiber River once emptied into the Tyrrhenian Sea is now two miles up-river. When William the Conqueror defeated King Harold II at the Battle of Hastings in 1066, he landed at an old Roman fort on a small harbor island on England’s south coast. That location, now known as Pevensey Castle, is now a mile from the coast.” So sea levels rise and fall naturally. There’s no cause for panic about rising ocean levels.

Actually, it’s ironic that Bill Nye is concerned about the people living in coastal cities. After all, wasn’t he just complaining about how 7.3 billion people breathe and burn our atmosphere? It’s inconsistent of him and others to express concern about the number of people on the planet but also be worried about the people living in coastal cities. But it’s actually good that Nye is concerned about the people living along the coast since we are supposed to value human life since all humans are made in the image of God (Genesis 1:27–28). Of course, from an atheistic evolutionary position, why should he have any concern at all?

Number Five: Unprecedented Speed

#5: But the main, main, thing, everybody, . . . is the speed, it’s the rate at which things are changing. . . Oh yes, the world was once warmer, there was once more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere than there is today, but all of this never happened this fast. And that’s what you gotta get your heads around.

So Bill Nye is saying that the warming isn't the problem—it’s been warmer before, but it’s the speed of the warming that’s the problem. Really, this exposes how climate change is a matter of interpretation—just like historical science, which depends on your views of the unobservable past.

According to the evolutionary model, which Bill Nye holds to with fervor, the Earth is millions of years old and the climate has been relatively stable since the last supposed glacial period over 10,000 years ago. Based on this model, and given that observational science shows that Earth’s climate is now changing, secularists such as Nye assume that human activity must be the cause of this change. If this is true, then a changing climate is understandably a concern for them. Now, this model uses methods such as tree ring and ice core dating to get these supposed stable temperature readings, but these methods are fraught with unprovable assumptions. So Nye’s concern about the speed of today’s climate change is based on unprovable assumptions about the past that are being used to interpret the data.

According to a biblical model of Earth’s history, Earth is only a few thousand years old. Our planet was created with a perfect climate, but this climate was upset at the time of the catastrophic global flood of Noah’s day, which destroyed and reshaped the surface of the Earth. This Flood was followed by the Ice Age which covered 30% of Earth’s surface in ice. This transitional climate slowly gave way to the present climate as the Earth evened out from the after-effects of the Flood. So, when we start with a biblical model for Earth’s history, we should expect variations in climate and temperature.

Ken Ham, Answers in Genesis 39 Comments [11/2/2015 7:05:22 PM]
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Quote# 114907

I used to observe this holiday, until I started researching it only to find that it is actually a Pagan holiday, it had nothing to do with JESUS birth or the jolly old man in the red suit. Nothing to do with mistletoe, or holly, nothing about wreaths or decorations, or trees inside the house adorned with silver and gold.
No, my research let me to an emperor named Constantine. He was the one who was instrumental in changing the holiday in order to get people to come into the church (the HRCC). I furthermore discovered that JESUS is NOT the reason for the season, as He wasn't born in December, but it was at the Fall Feast of the LORD that He was born which was in September.
You see, it was too cold in the Holy Land area for the shepherds to be out in the fields keeping watch over their flock by night as Luke 2 has told us. They put away the animals in to barns back in October and left them there until around March or April when the weather warmed up. They were out in the fields it says keeping watch when JESUS was born (which was in September), as I said, it would have been "too cold" in the month of December for them to be out there.
Another thing we might keep in mind is that JESUS "never" told us to keep His birthday special. NO, what was important to JESUS was to remember His death...He said, "This Do In Remembrance of Me"! He never wanted us to do what we do today, so He is in effect NOT the reason for the season.
Christmas has NOTHING at all to do with Him or His birth, it's a traditional holiday that stems from the Pagans and Heathens and JESUS warned us NOT to have anything to do with them or their traditions or their ways.
Today it's merely just a tradition. We've been doing it all our lives b/c those before us did it too and it all started with Constantine. A little research goes along way if you want to learn the truth, and it's the truth that will set you free of these burdensome holidays that we celebrate here on earth.
It's all commercial, from Easter (another pagan holiday), to Halloween, to Christmas, it's all about $$$$$ (that almighty dollar). Shop til you drop, charge everything so you can be in debt for another year at least.
We teach our children about pagan beliefs and instead of honoring JESUS (who didn't want all this in the first place), we honor traditions of old.
May we learn the truth so that we can be set free...

wandakate, Charisma News 29 Comments [11/29/2015 11:21:46 AM]
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Quote# 114892

Why don't homosexuals accept all the consequences of their own choices?

If they believe that gay sex is equivalent to normal sex, and they want children, they should use their gay sex to produce children. Why do they want to adopt children that are the result of normal sex?

crass, islamicity 22 Comments [11/29/2015 11:14:20 AM]
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Quote# 114857

As a shepherd of the flock, your job is to keep the flock focused on God. You can hardly succeed at doing this when you’re confusing God with Satan. Just look at those New Testament Pharisees: what a train wreck. You don’t want to be like those morons. And yet the prophet who is going to be playing a Moses-type role during the end times is going to look and sound a lot more demonic than Jesus did to the Jews. Of course this is only because the litmus tests we’re using to tell God from demons these days are completely irrelevant. We think that anyone who gets off on God killing people can’t be aligned with Him. Why ever not? Shouldn’t a true prophet of God be displaying a zealous devotion to God’s agenda? We all know that people don’t die by accident in this world—God kills them. If God is killing people, He obviously has good reasons for doing so, and any prophet who is truly aligned with Him will not be publicly beefing against His Divine agenda. Because God is going to be doing so much killing during the end times, His devoted prophet is going to come across as a rather bloodthirsty sadist, especially when the media goes to work with their usual biased reporting. This is going to result in a bunch of wide-eyed parishioners coming to you asking, “How can someone like that really be from God?”

As we explain in some of our other end time preparation posts, God is going to be performing all kinds of devastating and destructive miracles through His end time representative. You are going to see film footage of this person appearing to kill and maim people merely by pointing at them. You’re going to see stereotypically “good” targets like emergency workers and hospitals getting nailed by God’s destructive power. Efforts to help the hurting will be dramatically sabotaged. Impossible alterations of matter will occur: skyscrapers being turned into ice, asphalt morphing into molten lava, sidewalks behaving like quicksand. Don’t believe it? Read your Bibles. If you can believe in a worldwide flood, God causing the sun to stand still in the sky for Joshua, and Him creating a dry path through both the Red Sea and the Jordan River, why is it so fantastic to think that He can cause a city street to turn into a carpet of stinging insects? Didn’t God turn all the dust in Egypt into a plague of gnats? If God could open the earth to swallow up the rebellious Korah, then close the earth again immediately afterwards, why can’t He perform similar feats down a city street? He can and He will. If you’re going to blow off prophetic warnings of the end times, make sure you’re not blowing off the wrong ones. The end times are not going to be at all like these idiots in the Church are saying. All of this guff about America turning Islam or President Obama cooking up evil conspiracies behind the scenes. You ought to know better than to believe any prophecy that turns your focus off of God and onto idiot demons and their foolish humans. While countless false prophets are filling your heads with a bunch of theatrical rot just to try and make a name for themselves, we are telling you what is actually in store so that you can start seeking the Holy Spirit’s wisdom now about how He wants you to guide your flock when the theological crisis begins.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 12 Comments [11/28/2015 5:26:09 PM]
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Quote# 114883

[On the board for "Spotlight"]

This film is complete garbage. I'm sick of another anti-Christian Hollywood propaganda movie. The Muslims are literally trying to destroy the entire world yet Hollywood would rather make a film about a small group of "Catholics" molesting children. Of course, they'll conveniently ignore the fact that it was gays pretending to be Catholic on a large scale, not true catholics because they want to continue to push anti-Christian beliefs onto its viewers, while at the same time giving the Muslims a free pass as they continue their conquest.

Screw this movie and everyone who helped make it and everyone who supports it.

americaisthebest86, IMBb 22 Comments [11/29/2015 4:24:05 AM]
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Quote# 98538

((I am sorry about how this text is just a huge brick, but that's how it was originally. /WeirdWiccan))

If you're an Orthodox Christian (who drinks blood of Jesus regularly, prays, wears a cross, fasts, rejects New World Order documents, and doesn't sin), then demons have no effect on you. People who use drugs see demons who cleverly disguise themselves as aliens. God gave you like a shield so that demons don't harm you, but when you sin or do something spiritually wrong, you open yourself up to demonic influence. For example, chanting mantras leads to demon possession. It's not the words that get you possessed; it's the rhythm. Buddhists worship fake mountain Kailash in Tibet inside which demons have a UFO base. Barcode is Druid black magic curse. Mediums are shown pictures and given thoughts by demons. Demons move the Ouija board. Demons=Ghosts=Spirit Guides=Aliens. Demons never do good. Demons fly in UFOs. Crystal balls, tarot cards, barcodes, tattoos, talismans, masks, skulls, amulets, etc. attract demons. Meditation, chanting mantras, and astral projection lead to demon possession. Casting spells is asking demons for help. Ask Greek Orthodox priest to help you out (blessing your house, etc.) Most dreams and thoughts are from demons. To break any curse, pray slowly the Psalm "the Lord is my light and my salvation" 40 times a day for 40 straight days. That's 1600 times in total. Also, if you're in any trouble (like sleep paralysis), scream: JESUS! Pray the Jesus prayer all the time: "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner." Jesus will come back to end the flying antichrist's rule when this antichrist conceives a thought in his evil mind that he 666-isotope-ray-lasered everyone. Antichrist's minions came up with Dec. 21 in order to desensitize people to the real events predicted in the Bible. Antichrist is 0% God and 100% man. He's possessed by Satan since he's 12 years old. He flies. He wears gloves to hide long nails. He's pale with red eyes. He's surrounded by demons who appear as angels of light. 666ed people go to permanent hell. 666 is given by lasers (isotope rays) on wrist or forehead when people stretch hands to receive small plastic grey card (world passport). Reject 666. Don't go into a UFO to be healed by demons. Those who reject 666 will go to heaven. Also, their direct ancestors will be saved from hell. Dinosaurs live under our level. They will get out through sinkholes and lakes. To kill them, go for their nerves. Again, 666 is given by isotope rays on wrist or forehead when people stretch hands to receive small plastic grey card (world passport). Police will chip and isotope ray people on highways. Food stores will isotope ray people too. Antichrist will also release prisoners to mark people. Reject 666 at all cost. If you're about to be marked, scream: "Lord, have mercy!" three times. Go hide with Orthodox Christians to escape 666. After death, 3 days you here, then you're shown hell and heaven from 3rd until 9th day after death, then from 9th until 40th day demons accuse you of sins; that was before, now people just straight out go to temporary hell because of Social Security; but 666ed people go to permanent hell right away; 666 is given when people stretch hands to accept the evil plastic card. Before Jesus preached in hell, all people (except Enoch and Elijah) went to hell. Now, aborted kids go to hell for 33 and a half years. After crucifiction, Jesus preached in hell. Those who believed, got out of hell. Suicide leads to hell. Maximum torture is at the bottom (ice hell) for biggest sinners. Stalin is head in boiling water. When he tries to get out, demons push him back in. Others stand up to knees or up to chest in boiling water. There are different punishments in hell. If you didn't do anything bad, you're in a dark room. Also, hell is not permanent now. So, it's possible to get out, especially if you're prayed for and your relatives give to charity in the name of Archangel Michael. God is love. God has unlimited joy. God wants to share His joy with us. Point of this life is to get to heaven and spend eternity with God. God gives you a name during baptism. Devil gives you an anti-name during anti-baptism. Barcode is Druid black magic curse and a form of mark of the beast just like Social Security. People who took any number (which is an anti-name given during anti-baptism by the beast) on documents or in computer go to temporary hell; but those who receive green 666 (given with world passport with no name on it) on forehead or wrist go to permanent hell. How not to go to hell? Give back all these anti-name anti-baptism documents back to the beast by writing to appropriate authorities. If authorities refuse to cancel these anti-names, then write again (up to three times). If you wrote to the gov't three times about it, but gov't refused, then God will not send you to hell. Don't go into UFO to be healed by demons.

., Yahoo! Answers 56 Comments [12/31/2013 4:32:29 AM]
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Quote# 114690

There is no real "debate." A true debate has legitimate arguments on both sides. There is only one legitimate argument here. Islam is of Satan. Muslims follow Islam. Therefore Muslims are disciples of Satan. They are the enemy of Western culture, society, and civilization. Thus no Muslim should be allowed entry to the US for any reason and all non US citizen Muslims should have their visas revoked and deported. Get on with it.

JamesSmith61, The Christian Post 18 Comments [11/23/2015 7:47:23 PM]
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Quote# 83867

If you were the devil, what would be your most important mission, other than inventing false religions? It would be to corrupt innocent children.

I’d start by kicking God out of the public schools and excising from textbooks the truth about America’s deeply Christian heritage. I’d get rid of glaringly obvious ties between Christianity and the Founders’ vision of unalienable rights and limited government. Children would be indoctrinated to think of themselves as cosmic accidents of random mutation and survival of the fittest, not precious beings with eternal souls created in the image of God. The result would be an effectively atheistic system of moral relativism.

Next, I’d cloak sexual promiscuity in terms of self-fulfillment, mix it up with junk science and lobby the teachers unions to openly promote the Kinsey sex education model of children as “sexual beings” whose “orientation” has no moral relevance.

Finally, I’d expose the kids to outright propaganda through clever websites designed to promote deviance and to brand anyone with any qualms, such as parents, as hate-filled bigots and bullies.

Robert Knight, The Washington Times 95 Comments [9/17/2011 5:34:48 AM]
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Quote# 36482

Fundamentalism gets a bad rap and is often associated with hate and bigotry, but I think fundamentalism can be a good thing. Real Christian fundamentalism would look like this:

1. Belief that the Christian is a superior form of life. In fact, the greatest possible form of contingent life in the universe.

Edward Gordon, Christian Crosstalk 60 Comments [3/20/2008 1:57:14 AM]
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Quote# 114758

I now know what happened at Charisma and I will not be coming back. Read my email to and from them here;

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 4:21 PM,

Charisma, can I (afchief) have permission to post again?

Hello afchief

We had removed your account in an attempt to try and bring some civility back into our comments section. You were only one of multiple people removed in this effort. It worked. Although there is still bickering and disagreeable people the level of vitriol is down and the number of conversions that remain civil through to the end is up significantly.

You had a tendency to pick fights, inject yourself into other people's conversions (degrading them into arguments) and belittling or mock people who you didn't agree with. You were almost always in "attack mode" and that's not what we're looking for. If you only posted once in while we might have been able to ignore it but you were so prolific in your posting that you often seemed to take over the comments section of some articles, driving away people who just wanted to have a real or civil conversion without being attacked.

The thought of restoring your access makes me (and the other moderators) nervous. We don't want to give up the gains we've made our community. We are developing other steps to further stress the need for civility.

This is one of those situations where if we were to restore your access it would require that you make a commitment to change how you act and treat others on our sites. This would require not only that you don't do what you did before but also that you don't let others drag you down (ie, if someone you disagree with tries to pick a fight, you don't bite, you take the higher ground, even if that means ending/ignoring the conversion). Only you know if you can make that sort of change and only you can decide if it's worth it.

Drew Glaser
Internet Manager
Charisma Media

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 6:28 PM,

Civility? You mean being politically correct? Was Jesus civil when He said "You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father." John 8:44? Was Jesus civil when He said “ “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut off the kingdom of heaven from people; for you do not enter in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. 14 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense you make long prayers; therefore you will receive greater condemnation.

Does speaking the truth scare you Mr Glaser? Apparently so! You don't want lies confronted. You do not want sin confronted. You want to be politically correct. How sad! Paul said in Ephesians 5:11 Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them; I guess to be "civil" we are to embrace, encourage, and love those who practice such fruitless acts and not expose them. Is this what Charisma is all about?

I was told a long time ago by several Spirit filled Christians to get off of your website because of false doctrine. I truly now see why.

In closing do not restore my account.

In Jesus, afchief

Hello afchief,

Your reply is a perfect example of why you're not mature enough to return to our community. I'll gladly keep you banned. I hope that one day you'll find peace.

Drew Glaser
Internet Manager
Charisma Media

Mature enough? Wow! Your site truly has become politically correct and afraid of the truth. The proof is in the pudding by who you allow to post on your site. Having people like Mensa Member who has changed his name several times on your site and claims to be a Christian but lies continuously shows me that you have a double standard.

Last month myself, Ax2root, Adam in Christ and another poster met on another site and discussed the reasons we were banned. We came to the conclusion that we are the few that do not separate our faith from anything and are not afraid to speak out about it. It is quite apparent Mr Glaser you are. You and your staff are more concerned about being politically correct then standing for truth and righteousness as evident of your previous email. Sad!

No I have no desire to come back to a website where you are not allowed to speak truth. Where you are not allowed confront lies and sin. It is quite apparent we live in a time where deception has never been more prevalent.

In Jesus, afchief

afchief, End of the American Dream  38 Comments [11/25/2015 4:01:58 AM]
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Quote# 114903

(Responding to this barb: "Ridiculous, pompous and inflated language doesn't give you the moral high ground. That's point one. Smugness and ignorance are a bad combination, point two. "Valri" is a woman's name and I am a woman. That's three. And "microscopic numbers" still mean that being 100% pro-life is idiotic. Four points - all of them which you will "hee hee hee" your way out of because everything you say is exactly the same every single time.")

Yeah, it would be the same, see, because truth doesn't change.
It's you liberal extremists that keep changing your stories.
You know, "I support the slaughter of 50 million innocent children because 10 or 11 cases might have been rape related"!?
Ooops! I mean, "I support the cold blooded murder of 50 million unborn children because, who knows? There may have been 5 cases where the mother's life may have been in danger"!!? Wow. Pretty weak bub.
And you're a WOMAN! Yikes! Sure don't sound like a woman. (A monster, maybe). And if you don't want to be seen as ridiculous, pompous, smug and ignorant you should stop acting that way. Might have something to do with frequenting undesirable, intolerant hate sites like fstdt.com, Muffin.
Just sayin'.

The Last Trump, Christian News Network 20 Comments [11/29/2015 11:17:20 AM]
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Quote# 114911

What in the name of John Blutarsky is happening on our university campuses?

A new survey from the Pew Research Center reveals that a shocking number of millennials support curbing free speech.

According to their findings, 40 percent of Americans between the ages of 18 and 34 believe the government should be able to ban any speech that is offensive to minority groups.

We have apparently raised a generation of snowflakes so fragile that their psyches can't handle offensive words or photographs or images.

It seems the only free speech this perpetually offended generation supports is speech they agree with.

And it appears our nation's public universities have become breeding grounds for such anti-American and un-Constitutional beliefs.

Websites like Campus Reform have done a tremendous job documenting the methodical way in which our public institutions have been turned against us.

Administrators, faculty and student government leaders who do not agree with the rampaging mob of anti-free speech protesters are threatened—their voices silenced.

From the University of Missouri to U.C. Berkley—where they are creating safe spaces to protect persons of color and those who identify as gender queer.

The University of Michigan added a three-year diversity requirement to its undergraduate curriculum in the school of business. As Campus Reform reported, they will teach students "how race, gender and sexual orientation connect to larger systems of power, privilege and oppression."

At Dartmouth, Black Lives Matter protestors invaded the library—verbally assaulting white students.

"(Expletive) you, you filthy white (expletive)!"

That's what they screamed at the kids trying to study for exams.

And at the University of Vermont white students were carted off to the woods for a three-day retreat on white privilege.

Universities are now judging students on the color of their skin, instead of the content of their character.

Oh, what have liberal educators unleased on our great nation?

We are watching the coming of age for a new generation—a generation of intolerance—a generation that will one day shutdown free speech, a generation that will purge dissenting viewpoints, a generation that will shutter our churches and burn our books.

We are watching the generation that will destroy America.

Todd Starnes, Charisma News 55 Comments [11/29/2015 11:22:55 AM]
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MULTAN: A pir was arrested on Wednesday for killing a follower to prove his claim that he could bring him back to life.

A Saddar police spokesman said Muhammad Sabir, a pir of village Mubarakabad in Bahawalnagar, gained popularity over the last five years for his ability to perform ‘miracles’.

He said on Tuesday, he announced that he could breathe life back into a dead man. The pir gave the condition that the victim must be married and have children.

Sabir said 40-year-old Muhammad Niaz, a daily wage worker and father of six children, volunteered for the miracle.

On Wednesday, Niaz was placed on a table in a square and his hands and legs were bound.

The police spokesman said Sabir then sliced his throat as people looked on.

Meanwhile, an anonymous caller informed the police about ‘the miracle.’ The spokesman by the time police reached, Niaz had died.

Witnesses said Sabir uttered some words to bring him back to life. They said when he realized his ‘miracle’ had not worked, he tried to flee.


A FIR against the cleric has been lodged in Saddar police station. The body of the victim was taken to the tehsil headquarters hospital for autopsy and later handed over to the family for burial.

Samina, sister of the victim, told The Express Tribune, that her brother had sacrificed himself for the spiritual leader.

“Why should I mourn when I know that my brother is in heaven?” she said. “He will be rewarded for his services for the spiritual leader in afterlife.

She said her brother had volunteered for the miracle and that the pir should not have been arrested.

Muhammad Sabir and Samina Niaz, The Express Tribune 20 Comments [11/29/2015 11:24:10 AM]
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Quote# 114771

Let us answer the question, "How can I make a man of my boy?"

1. Dress him like a man. As soon as his hair gets a bit shaggy, have it cut! It is better that little Johnny start life being masculine than to retain those beautiful ringlets at the age of two. Cut off those ringlets and make him look like a man. From the very first time that he is old enough to wear clothes, dress him like a boy, cut his hair like a boy, and make sure he always looks like a man. Teach him to be around boys that dress like boys. Teach him it is not Scriptural for a boy or man to have long hair or effeminate tastes in clothing. Read I Corinthians 11:14.

Make him play with boys and with boys' toys and games. Let him play with guns, cars, baseballs, basketballs, and footballs. As soon as I could I taught my boy to play baseball and football. When he was about thirteen I bought him an air rifle. When he was fifteen I bought him a .22 rifle. Invariably, when someone admits to me he is a homosexual he relates that he played a lot with girls and participated in feminine activities.

Jack Hyles, JESUS IS SAVIOR 37 Comments [11/26/2015 5:18:33 AM]
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Quote# 114867

"Have your read about the Lensky experiments? Pretty much proves that evolution happens, not to mention nylon-eating bacteria."

Bacteria is still bacteria and when left alone reverts back to it's original state - just like your messiah's finches. Typical evolutionist, just like fabricating an entire "caveman" out of a pig's tooth (Nebraska Man) you people take an adaptation and fabricate a whole series of mythological events that have to be taken on faith (a religion).
Constantly yammering on about other's beliefs only makes you look more and more desperate.

Oboehner, Christian News Network 18 Comments [11/29/2015 4:19:00 AM]
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Quote# 114905

From violent video games filled with bloody action to blockbuster films that focus on teens fighting in a contest until only one "winner" survives, today's youth have been raised in a culture of death—even becoming desensitized to disturbing images and concepts.

It's impossible, says author and religion and culture expert Dr. Alex McFarland, to be embroiled in this culture of death and at the same time, embrace Christianity—the epitome of new life and hope.

McFarland speaks to and works with thousands of young people every year, and communicates to them the hope of Jesus Christ. In his newest book, The God You Thought You Knew: Exposing the 10 Biggest Myths About Christianity, McFarland dispels the myths and untruths about Christianity and replaces that with the truth of who God really is.

"Young people are leaving behind their faith at alarming rates, and it's no wonder," said McFarland said, who recently penned the column 'Valuing Life, in a Culture of Death' for CNSNews.com. "Very little shocks our youth anymore, as they are faced with violent images all their lives. We know that hope and life only comes from Jesus Christ, and His way of living is the only way. Through The God You Thought You Knew and events geared specifically toward youth, we hope to renew their faith in Christ and give them reason to embrace life in Him rather than hopelessness and death."

According to a new study released earlier this month by the Pew Research Center, young people entering adulthood are growing in the ranks of nonreligious adults. Millennials, the study found, are, in many ways, far less religious than their parents' and grandparents' generations.

"For example," according to Pew Research, "two-thirds of adults in the Silent generation say religion is 'very important' in their lives and that they pray every day, as do about six-in-ten Baby Boomers and more than half of Generation Xers. By comparison with older adults, Millennials exhibit far lower rates of involvement with religion. Fewer than half of older Millennials (adults now in their late 20s and early 30s) and roughly four-in-ten younger Millennials (adults now in their late teens and early 20s) say religion is very important to them and that they pray daily. And a majority of Millennials say they attend religious services a few times a year at most."

Oftentimes, McFarland adds, young people leave their childhood beliefs behind or shun Christianity altogether because of the myths and untruths they've heard about faith. In The God You Thought You Knew, available on Amazon in paperback and Kindle formats, McFarland works to dispel those myths with 10 truths:

Myth #1: Christianity is intolerant and judgmental toward others.

Truth: Christianity teaches to love neighbor as self and to share the love of Jesus with others.

Myth #2: Christianity cannot be true because of the evil and suffering in our world.

Truth: Christianity offers the best hope and power to deal with suffering.

Myth #3: Christianity is untrue because it is based on faith instead of facts.

Truth: The claims of Christianity are based on historical facts that can be tested.

Myth #4: Christianity has been disproven by modern science.

Truth: The latest scientific evidence points to an intelligent designer behind all creation.

Myth #5: Christianity is not a religion for the educated.

Truth: Many of the world's top past and present scholars are Christians.

Myth #6: Christianity is boring and would be a waste of my time.

Truth: Christianity is the most adventurous life a person can experience.

Myth #7: Christianity isn't real because it didn't work for me.

Truth: The Christian faith is difficult, yet also the most rewarding way of life.

Myth #8: Christianity is false because it is based on the Bible, which is filled with errors and contradictions.

Truth: The Bible is the most accurately preserved book in history.

Myth #9: Christianity can't be true because it is based on a dead man coming back to life.

Truth: If the best explanation for the empty tomb of Jesus is the resurrection, then Christianity can be true.

Myth #10: Christianity isn't real because a loving God wouldn't send anyone to hell.

Truth: God has made great efforts to make sure many will spend eternity with him.

Deborah Hamilton, Charisma News 34 Comments [11/29/2015 11:18:42 AM]
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Quote# 114789

I've heard it said that Americans are sick of war. That's way many have turned a blind eye to the crimes of Islam, just sort of hoping it will all go away. It won't. Americans and indeed the world, must understand that Islam has been at war since the Crusades, we in the West just didn't realize it. So America, get over it. Buck up guys, we are at war, have been at war and will continue to be at war until we deal with the enemy and treat them as what they are: The Enemy. They are not "misguided" youth. It doesn't matter if they are a minority within Islam. The Nazi's were a minority in Germany and look what they were able to do. Those who sit in silence are just as guilty as those who blow themselves up in a children's ice cream shop or execute people at a rock concert in Paris.

Since the Crusades, we made advances in science and math, medicine and space travel. Islam grew, spread, multiplied, occupied and re-armed. Islam invaded the political aspects of some countries and just rampaged and murdered to take over others. In London the most popular boys name is Mohammed. For a hundred years, Hamtramck, Michigan was a Polish-Christian community. Then the Muslims started moving in. Now, instead of church bells on Sunday morning, you hear the call to prayer being blasted from the mosques all over the city. The political structure of the town is now majority Muslim. Hello Sharia law as soon as they figure out a way to get away with it. This is how they win in countries they can't beat by using their preferred method of butchery and force.


What to do about them? Actually, it's quite easy. We tell our Arab "friends" like the Saudi's or the Jordanians or the Turks to take them out, NOW. Give Islamic leaders a brief time to get their terrorist friends under control or to eliminate them. If they do not, if they cannot control their own, the carpet bombing will begin of any and all places we feel ISIS or any other Islamic terror group is hiding out. There is much to be said for carpet bombing. It has won wars for us in the past and can again. [...] Once all the terrorists are dead, the refugees can all go home and take back their country.

In WWII, the Germans bombed London nightly and the Brits survived. We bombed Berlin and just about every other German city to the ground and the Germans survived. The Middle East will survive, there will just be a lot fewer terrorists living there. And if they want to start up again, we can just repeat the lesson. We have a lot of bombs and bombers to drop them.

If that doesn't stop them, there are other targets that can be considered that just might get some Muslims nervous enough to send in troops to stop the madness. Perhaps the Imams will stop preaching terrorism at daily prayer and start preaching a little tolerance for non-Muslims. Mecca could be a justifiable target if Islam doesn't take steps to stop this killing being done in the name of Islam that they seem willing and happy to allow to continue and even quietly encourage.


As for Obama, don't expect him to do anything to stop an attack on America. He will do nothing. When it happens, if it happens on his watch, he will make excuses, blame America, Republicans, the "radical right" and do nothing. It seems to be what he does best. We are on our own until we have a real president in office. So America, my advice to you is do what WE THE PEOPLE do best: Lock and Load.

Barbara J. Stock, Barb Wire 30 Comments [11/26/2015 6:01:05 AM]
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Quote# 114901

You're lost, I'm afraid, because you're shackled to your rationalist way of thinking, which has been the downfall of the West. It's quite obvious from your posts on this thread and your one dimensional thinking.

ad_orientem, Religion and Ethics 16 Comments [11/29/2015 11:16:42 AM]
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Quote# 114825

In a 1994 movie, Pulp Fiction, starring Samuel Jackson (Jules) and John Travolta (Vincent), Jules makes a quote from Ezekiel 25:17 throughout the movie. The problem is that it's not what the Bible says. They've ADDED to the Bible. Here's the quote Jules repeatedly makes in the movie . . .

"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."

Now here's what the King James Bible says in Ezekiel 25:17 . . .

"And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.

I've looked at other versions of the Bible as well and none of them say anything even remotely close to what is stated in the movie. The Bible, God's Word, sternly warns against adding or subtracting from what God has said . . .

“Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.”
—Deuteronomy 4:2

It is no trifle matter to corrupt the Scriptures and say things that God did not say. What right does some Hollywood movie script writer have to alter the Scriptures because it SOUNDS GOOD in a movie? They have no right. Whoever changed the Bible in Ezekiel 25:17 for the sake of making a movie is in serious trouble with God. The actors, producers and everyone involved in the making of the movie are in trouble with God.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 33 Comments [11/27/2015 9:11:35 AM]
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Quote# 114807

( holy shit the Juche idea is fuckin reactionary nonsense how could any Marxist in their right mind support it???)

It’s about preserving the national character of a subjugated, sanctioned nation.

( get the fuck outta here you brainless north-korea defending bill cosby apologist twat juche is nationalist reactionary nonsense more similar to mussolini’s italy than anything marx envisioned. you should be ashamed to call yourself a marxist you piece of shit)

Nationalism for oppressed nations is justified as imperialism aims to destroy them and their independence.

Successful resistance movements all championed national liberation for oppressed nations as an important aspect for anti-imperialist struggle and by extension, internationalism; Vietnam, China, Burkina Faso, Cuba etc.

As for “history is shaped by the masses not material structures”. This is a big misinterpretation of juche and wasn’t imposed on them by anyone, but rather decided democratically by the anti-Japanese resistance to be the ideology of the Korean revolution.

Tbh I would have thought that someone who wants to see the destruction of every socialist state for not being good enough would be someone more suited to not be considered a Marxist. There’s already a word for someone who cries about the internal imperfections of small, sanctioned states while ignoring the objective conditions of world imperialism. We call them liberals.

Fuck Banter , Shit Tankies Say 13 Comments [11/27/2015 5:32:54 AM]
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