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Quote# 112379

Chinese seem to confuse their race with their nationality. Their loyalties are therefore questionable

Birdman, Straight 19 Comments [8/29/2015 6:26:54 AM]
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Quote# 112058

(Robert? What I found so disturbing about that show To Catch A Predator is that quite a few of the men who were lured into these sting operations came out and admitted that they were still virgins. They could have been lying, but, then again, they were likely telling the truth. When they get to prison, I imagine that word gets around the inmate population that these men have never been touched.)

Then these men end up having their first sexual experience in the form of a violent gang rape against them by a bunch of sodomite goons. I would never wish something like that on even my worst enemy. I am glad that To Catch A Predator was taken off the air. Unfortunately, there are other fanatics out there in the world like Chris Hansen and Perverted Justice who take their obsessions even further to the point that innocent people get hurt…

…Yeah, but if that “offender” wishes to support the younger person for the rest of her life as I’ve seen in so many cases in which a 22-year-old man marries his pregnant 14-year-old girlfriend, locking him up and branding him a sex offender after he gets out of prison isn’t going to improve his chances of finding employment to make such support possible, to say the least.

Good point. 14 and 15 year old girls are not children. You can only groom and molest children. You can’t groom and molest people who aren’t children, although that is probably coming. I assume this is where the radfems are going next – soon they will accuse men of grooming and molesting full-grown women, which is in line with Feminist Theory which essentially states that females never grow up and remain children until their dying day.

Since it is not possible to groom and molest someone who is not a child, it is not possible to groom and certainly not to molest a 14 or 15 year old girl. Yes you can fuck them and do all sorts of sexual things with them, as you can any woman. But you can’t molest them anymore than you can molest a 30 year old woman.

Robert Lindsay, Beyond Highbrow 27 Comments [8/21/2015 3:26:24 AM]
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Quote# 112343

There. Is. No. Such. Thing. As. Racism. Against.

Whites. Just as there's no such thing as sexism against men. I can't comment in depth because it takes too long to cover the entire history of the human race.

There are women who routinely dismiss all men as sexist pigs, and I'm sure there are POC who dismiss all whites as racist pigs. In neither case is there enough power vested to cause damage to the dismissed.

I love OCD, Daily Kos 37 Comments [8/29/2015 3:58:54 AM]
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Quote# 112234

My dear fellow Whites, Wake up. I woke up after the age of 50! So, I do not lose hope in you, whatever your age. The truth is that our White race invented everything we care about, from science itself, to the printing press, true sanitation systems, heating and cooling systems, the control and use of electricity, every kind of machine, power tools, every motorized vehicle, planes, rockets, phones, computers, and this Internet. The jews stole the White inventor Thomas Edison’s movie-making equipment and fled out to the far coast, to Los Angeles, to put it to use in their new propaganda industry against us.

The jews are the invaders in this White-founded White-built country of ours. Ours. But our great race has some weaknesses. Our ancestors were too generous, too tolerant, too ignorant of jews, and suicidally gullible. Thus, the invaders were allowed to operate.

We are the founding race of our country. By every right of humanity, the founding race of a country can and should kill invaders.

When jews send our military to invade other countries to kill people the jews don’t like (which is all non-jews), those people rightly try to kill the invaders. They have every right to do so.

Likewise, we have every right.

Kill every jew. We have every right to do so. Also, it is our duty and our pleasure. There is no “PTSD” (post traumatic stress syndrome) when killing the right enemy.

See advice in the linked articles at the bottom of this website.

In our lifetimes, our presidents have ordered us to go kill our White-brother Germans, and the Arabs, and the Asians, and the Africans, and the Mestizos. Presidents have never ordered us to go kill the real enemy, the jews infesting our country and the world despite the documented, historic crimes-against-humanity that jews have committed and continue to commit. We have killed millions upon millions of people who have only tried to have their own countries to themselves.

And now, we need to rise up, kill the enemy jews, and re-take our own country for ourselves and our own people. By controlling the violent force of military and police, the jews have taken control of our country away from us. Only by force will we take it back.

They have us out-organized, since they are fully race-conscious and they control the government. But they do not have us out-gunned. We have multi-millions of veterans, hunters, and other gun owners across the country. And the jews do not have us outsmarted. You and I have overcome a lifetime of their propaganda against us! Be proud of that. Also, we know how to efficiently and covertly put our intelligence, abilities, weapons, and creativity to work for us, for now.

Kill jews. jew doctors, jew lawyers, jew teachers, jew insurers, jew porn dealers, jew drug dealers, jew owners of major league sports teams, jew bankers, jew travel agency owners, jew jewelers.

Do it carefully. Safely. Proudly. Silently. Again and again. That’s our necessary strategy for now, as our massive wave of White Might rises across our land from sea to shining sea.

Signed,

James T. Laffrey

Justified.

James Laffrey, Whites Will Win! 41 Comments [8/25/2015 2:15:22 PM]
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Quote# 112308

A day does not go by without some new outrage. You know what I’m talking about — stories about fresh surges of illegal immigrants over the border despite the American people’s mounting anger that we’re losing our country; the Boy Scouts welcoming openly homosexual men as troop leaders; the federal debt soaring past $18 trillion and counting; Planned Parenthood getting caught dissecting live babies for organs and brains; the White House announcing the first openly transgender staff member; Pentagon officials rushing toward putting women into all combat units, including the Navy SEALs. I have yet to see a reporter ask how this will enhance the SEALs’ ability to conduct and survive dangerous missions.

Meanwhile, under President Obama’s nuclear “executive agreement,” Iran is pursuing an electromagnetic pulse capability that could plunge America into a dark age. Christians in Iraq and Syria are being beheaded, raped and sold as slaves while the Obama administration blocks Christian refugees and puts a welcome mat out for Muslim asylum-seekers. How much more disturbing can the news get?

At the movies, the Motion Picture Association of America gives an inexplicably lax R rating to “The Diary of a Teenage Girl,” about a 15-year-old having an affair with a 35-year-old man, complete with several nude scenes. The film’s director says she hopes to help young girls get over the “taboo” against being sexually active. Just when we thought we’d run out of broken taboos. People like this used to hang around schoolyards in creepy raincoats. Now they have big budgets and sophisticated cameras, and get warm reviews in major newspapers.

This is fifty shades of statutory rape, like former Subway pitchman Jared Fogle’s guilty pleas this past week for crossing state lines to have sex with underage girls and possessing child pornography. The “Diary” filmmaker gets away with it by having a 23-year-old portray the teen girl.

With the political world reeling from crisis to crisis and a media culture more decadent by the day, it’s more imperative than ever that people shed their apathy, get involved and push back the darkness. But in between battles, it’s not a bad thing to unplug and take in a ballgame.

At the very least, it’s good to take a drive in the real America. You can escape the evil media matrix — for a while.

Robert Knight, BarbWire 22 Comments [8/28/2015 3:08:27 AM]
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Quote# 112336

When it comes to sexual orientation, abortion, and childhood sexual exploration, the left demands to arbitrate the rules. The problem for the rest of America is that if one dares express an opinion alien to the guidelines set forth by the left or risks imposing moral standards via a chosen lifestyle, liberals focus like a laser on obliterating the offender.

That’s exactly what Josh Duggar of 19 Kids and Counting is living through right now.

Seems that when Josh was a 14-year-old boy, he admitted that he “inexcusably” fondled five girls in their sleep, two of whom were his younger sisters. Riddled with remorse, Josh confessed to his parents what he’d done, and Michelle and Jim Bob chose to handle it by sending him away for a while and then reporting it to the authorities. Charges were not filed.

No one disagrees that a child molesting a child, let alone a sibling, is inappropriate and harmful behavior, but then again, in today’s society, boys fondling girls and even boys fondling boys are common occurrences.

Insincerity enters the debate via those who ordinarily consider underage sex part of normal human development. After all, it was the government agency Health and Human Services that acknowledged sex-play among kids to be part of what they call small children behaving like “Sexual Beings.”

For Josh Duggar, 12 years after the fact, it’s different.

In his case, the group that normally encourages all manner of sexual experimentation is calling for the father of four’s head on a sexual-predator spike. Sorry to have to be the bearer of bad tidings, but if every individual casting a stone was to have the curtain drawn back on his or her antics during puberty, there’d be a whole lot of scribbling in the sand.

Josh lived in a cloistered, homeschooled family environment, but if the eldest Duggar were in an Arkansas public school system and decided to get busy with a girlfriend in the back of someone’s pickup truck, the ones criticizing him now would have surely provided the lad with a condom-on-a-cucumber tutorial. And if need be, had clumsy Josh failed to use the government-issued condom correctly, if given the go-ahead by a judge, some school administrator would gladly have shuttled the object of Josh’s affection to an abortion clinic, with her parents none the wiser.

Speaking of Arkansas, don’t the Duggars hail from the same state as a former president who, as far as we know, never fondled his alleged half-sister Sharon Lee Blythe but was accused by several women of rape, molestation, exposing himself, and preying upon White House interns?

Yet many of Josh’s critics adore America’s infamous saxophone-playing pervert, because letting someone like Bill get away with using a cigar as a sex toy must somehow subdue the sex-induced self-reproach liberals apparently feel.

For Josh, admitting his indiscretions and actually changing his behavior underscores the message that although our weak carnal natures tend toward wanton depravity, and despite attesting faith in Christ, no one is exempt from the need for God’s forgiveness.

Secular liberals can’t have that!


Unlike those who attempt to assuage the guilt of abortion by downgrading babies to fetal tissue, Duggar did not make excuses for his indefensible behavior. He confessed, and he is now willing to suffer the consequences.

Duggar critics argue that Josh’s victims are injured for life and will never recover from the trauma. Hopefully, with time and counseling, that will not be the case.

However, this concern is mouthed by the very people who largely agree with exposing kindergarteners to homosexual marriage, installing safe-school czars who attend conferences that teach unnatural gay sex techniques to schoolchildren, and excusing ex-presidents for frequenting pedophile vacation destinations.

Isn’t it liberals who believe that teaching masturbation is more important than American history? And now America is supposed to believe that those who sexualize five-year-olds from the second they enter school are suddenly wringing their hands with concern for the girls horny Josh infringed upon?

Moreover, when they’re not demanding that a 27-year-old a man be branded a child predator for engaging in inappropriate hormone-induced sexual activity when he was 14, lefties spend their time egging on a sex-obsessed writer/actress who, after being raised by an artist father renowned for depicting distorted female genitalia, described in her memoir perusing her little sister’s privates for hidden pebbles.

The serious nature of child molestation cannot and should not be dismissed. It’s just hard to buy all the liberal outrage, because many of those censuring Josh Duggar are fans of slaughtering 4,000 babies a day, and when it comes to hurting children, these same people are unconcerned about the message it sends kids when cult heroes are made of men transitioning from penis to vagina.

jptrigen, sodahead 20 Comments [8/28/2015 6:15:38 PM]
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Quote# 112359

I have no idea where people get the idea that Trump's supporters are Tea Partiers/conservatives, but it's not from any of the data.

Tim Dukeman, Twitter 13 Comments [8/29/2015 5:49:58 AM]
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Quote# 112364

Zachary King remembers the day well. It was in 1982. He was young, rebellious and dabbling in the occult.

But on that day, he would make the transition from novice to the deeper things of Satan.

“I had just turned 14, and they told me there was going to be a sex party in someone’s house and all the males in the coven were going to sleep with this woman,” recalls King, now 47 and a pro-life activist living in Florida.

“And the purpose of the party was to get her pregnant, and then nine months later we were going to be doing an abortion,” he said.

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He would later become a high wizard, he said, overseeing more than 140 “ritual abortions.”

“Knowing a spell could kill someone inside a woman, and that’s legal, and five minutes later it’s illegal, I said, ‘This is awesome. I can do this all day long.’ You step through this door and you can kill, and you step through this other door and you go to prison. That in itself should tell you how satanic it is,” King told WND. “The coven leader called it a baby, not a lump of cells, and he said, ‘You kill it.’ They didn’t call it a lump of cells.”

He said he performed many of the sacrificial abortion rituals at the clinics of “a large abortion provider,” but he would not identify the provider for fear of lawsuits.

“As a high wizard, your job was to get your hands bloody while saying a spell, regardless of whether that’s the baby’s blood or the mother’s blood,” he said. “My left hand guided the way, and the right hand had a scalpel. The woman never winced or anything. Both hands were bloody. I participated in 141 abortions. I doubt my actions actually killed any children, but I was still there.”

King said he was hired to be there, casting his spells, by the abortionists.

“You have to be part of the procedure,” he said. “They have hired you to perform a satanic spell and, in order for that to happen, your hands have to get bloody.”

Leo Hohmann and Zachary King, WorldNetDaily 17 Comments [8/29/2015 6:17:38 AM]
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Quote# 112348

“A whale was found with atavistic hind limbs of over 4 feet long. This makes perfect sense according to an evolutionary framework. Please explain how it makes any sense according to creationism.”

Do an Internet search for "photos of extra limbs" and you will find lambs with eight legs, people with four legs, three arms, etc. They have nothing to do with evolution and neither does a whale that has extra limbs.

Ray Comfort, Ray Comfort's blog 22 Comments [8/29/2015 4:33:41 AM]
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Quote# 112329

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The mayor of Venice has been quoted as saying that he will try to ban Gay Pride parades in the city, provoking fury from gay rights activists.

"There will be no gay pride in my Venice," Luigi Brugnaro told La Repubblica newspaper, describing the event as farcical and kitsch.

However, he said he was not homophobic, insisting he had friends who were gay.

[...]

In the interview with La Repubblica newspaper (in Italian), Mr Brugnaro said he firmly opposed hosting the parade in Venice.

"Let them go and do it in Milan, or in front of their own homes," he was quoted as saying.

Mr Brugnaro earlier provoked controversy by withdrawing books that depicted same-sex families from Venice's nurseries and primary schools.

Luigi Brugnaro, BBC News 10 Comments [8/28/2015 6:11:49 PM]
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Quote# 112372

During a recent “Receiving A Prophet’s Reward” special, conservative televangelist Rod Parsley shared the story of a woman who was informed by her doctors that her baby would be born with “more tumors in its brain than the doctors could even count.”

However, by “sowing a seed” — giving an envelope of money to Parsley during a church service — Parsley reports that “she gave birth to a baby perfectly normal, not a single tumor anywhere to be found.”

Rod Parsley, Right Wing Watch 20 Comments [8/29/2015 6:24:47 AM]
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Quote# 112354

Jimmy is dead wrong on that statement. Jesus/God made us in His image and likeness. We were created to know, love and serve Him so we can spend eternity in Heaven with Him. In the days of Moses, the penalty for homosexuality was death by stoning. He told His Israelites through Moses that a man must not lie with another man as he does with a woman. That is detestable. God said homosexuality is a sin. So why would Jesus approve of sinful behavior? He wouldn't and He doesn't!

lorac odraned, Christian News Network 16 Comments [8/29/2015 5:45:14 AM]
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Quote# 112360

How tragic it is then that so many women hardly wear any clothes these days, or wear sensual clothing, and mothers allow their little girls to run around in public in their underwear. The word “underwear” sounds offensive, so people put some colored underwear on their children instead and call it a bathing suit, thinking that's acceptable. It is wrong for any woman, be she young or old, to walk around in public in her underwear, bathing suit or whatever you choose to call it. It's immodesty! It's indecency! It's America today! And that goes for men and boys too!

When we as Christians speak of sexual matters, we need to be very selective in our words, because it is a delicate matter that ought to be approached carefully. Some parents are just plain idiots, allowing their girls to dress and behave promiscuously. A wise parent insists that their child sit properly in public. A parent should continually be observant of where there child is and what they are doing. It is shocking how some parents are so naive of what is going on around them, especially concerning their children. Nudity has become commonplace in American society. It is sinful. Public nakedness is wrong. As America continues its spiritual decline, a thug police state will rise up around us. We are living in unstable times. As America digresses and moves toward third world status, it will be evermore needful to dig-in and die-hard in these perilous (hard to endure) times foretold in 2nd Timothy 3:1-5.

You can't go hardly anywhere in public these days without seeing immodestly dressed women, hearing vulgarity and seeing indecent store displays. Most people aren't shocked by sin anymore, because they don't abide in the Scriptures. Paul said that God's Law made his sins exceedingly sinful. The television does the exact opposite, making sin less offensive and desensitizing the viewer. The daily news features whores with miniskirts up to their neck. That's all the viewer sees is a woman reporter's thighs and two men sitting on each side. Do you think that's a mere coincidence? No, it's deliberate, sinful and God hates it. Judgment day is coming!!!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 25 Comments [8/29/2015 6:15:37 AM]
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Quote# 112369

Now let’s say our earnest little Muslim girl doesn’t die young. Instead, she grows into an adult and somewhere along the line, the Holy Spirit begins to expose her to truth. As soon as the Holy Spirit starts talking, the woman’s soul is forced to choose between accepting or rejecting what He is saying. Let’s say she starts rejecting Him. On the outside, she remains dedicated to Islam. She’s so dedicated that when you meet her, you think, “Wow, this woman is really serious about pleasing God.” But is she? On a soul level, she is willfully rejecting the Holy Spirit. She isn’t interested in pleasing God at all. On the contrary, she’s only interested in pleasing herself. When the Holy Spirit reveals to her that her Allah is a delusion, she adamantly rejects what the Holy Spirit is saying—not because she’s so dedicated to Allah, but because she demands the right to define who god is. This woman isn’t really dedicated to any god—she’s really obsessed with control. It’s the same with Mormons, Hindus, Buddhists, New Agers, and any other religion you want to name. As soon as a soul begins to reject the true identity of God, the religious games they play are nothing more than a farce. Anyone who is truly interested in submitting to the real God would do just that. Anyone who claims to be interested in pleasing God while they stubbornly cling to gods they have just invented is proving how phony their claims are.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 11 Comments [8/29/2015 6:24:07 AM]
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Quote# 112377

(On Jimmy Saville's victims)

They came from horrifically messed up families and had tons of problems long before they ever laid eyes on Jimmy or Garry or any of the other accused men. What they wanted was an escape. A way out. A free pass. They clearly had zero adult supervision. Who lets their young daughter go to London with a much older, famous entertainer? Who lets their teenager cruise around with a man reeking of cigar smoke and alcohol in a Rolls-Royce?

And now they are claiming the MEN abused THEM? Looks to me like it was the other way around. The situations and incidents Karin describes as abuse were nothing more than girls out famewhoring. Desperate for male approval and love and attention and power by proxy, they tried shooting for the moon.

It’s a story as old as bloody time. Young women with nothing to offer but their youth and sexuality chase after powerful men in exchange for favors. If we are going to arrest every powerful man who has ever availed himself of willing women, we are gonna need to build a whole lot of jails.

Hewson says the men being arrested are scapegoats. Scapegoats for what? For the anger and embarrassment and jealousy and bitterness the women feel because they FAILED to land the big fish? Would any of these women be complaining if they had ended up married to one of the stars?

Hell no. They’d all be divorced now with half his assets in their bank accounts, gloating over what idiots men are to fall for youth and beauty.
Hewson wants to lower the age of consent so that prosecuting these men becomes impossible. While I understand her ire, I’m afraid I can’t agree with her solution entirely. Lower the age of consent to 13? Okay. Sure.

But put in sensible measures like the United States. An age gap consideration and a mistaken age defense. With power, comes responsibility. That’s part of the deal. Powerful men have some obligation to use their power judiciously. Underage girls are off limits, no matter how willing they are to comply.

With power, comes responsibility. It applies to the girls, too. Youth and beauty and enthusiasm have power, and the girls have some responsibility to use their power judiciously. Chasing after much older men in the hopes of currying favor and gaining benefits is off limits.

But humans are humans. Powerful men always have and always will delight in young women hunting them. Young women always have and always will hunt for powerful men. Both sides are equally culpable. Both sides are engaging in abuse. Both sides are behaving shamefully. Both side are being idiots.
gold digger

But only one side is being held criminally responsible? Bullshit. If the girls are not going to be strung up on charges of solicitation and prostitution, and I absolutely do NOT think they should be, then fairness and equality under the law dictates the men get a pass, too.

Andrea Hardie, Judgybitch 26 Comments [8/29/2015 6:25:48 AM]
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Quote# 112373

Radio host Michael Savage is not pleased with how the cities of New York and San Francisco are handling the issue of homelessness, suggesting yesterday that the city simply throw all homeless people in prison or a mental institution so they stop peeing in his face.

“San Francisco has now become virtually uninhabitable because of the bums crapping in the street, because of the robbery and the crime that is being covered up, and I don’t blame the police, I blame liberalism,” Savage said. “Liberalism is a mental disorder and wherever super-liberals take over, the cities go to the toilet bowl. Look at New York, I was just there last week, you take your life in your hands walking around with the folks with the box cutters underneath with the shaking cup…. The word ‘homeless’ itself is a fabrication of the radical left.”

After declaring that the Bible and the U.S. Constitution do not require government to support housing homeless individuals other than in “a jail cell or a mental hospital,” Savage said, “The bums are now so brazen because the cops have been neutralized by the liberals that they are literally, openly defecating and peeing in the streets in front of people.”

“They urinate in your face now,” he added.

Michael Savage, Right Wing Watch 23 Comments [8/29/2015 6:25:05 AM]
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Quote# 112328

I have no respect for our government or its "founding principles." I uphold traditional Christianity, not Enlightenment, anti-Catholic liberalism, which has resulted in the disgusting, fallen society we have today. Toss the Constitution out, and institute a Catholic monarchy over the United States.

The founders and many of the early Americans were heretics and schismatics and outright non-Christians like Jefferson, I don't put much weight in their opinions or their tolerance of a "diversity of beliefs" which has now reached its inevitable logical end and come to accommodate outright, literal Satanism.

None of the present-day liberal activists have any respect for our founding fathers, either; they constantly critique their personal morality, their decision to allow guns, their tolerance of free speech aka "hate speech", support for religious liberty, etc. so if you think what I'm saying is particularly evil you should consider their views are basically identical, except they want to replace the US with a socialist state instead of a Catholic one.

So far as I can tell, nobody takes the failed American experiment seriously anymore aside for a handful of old boomers, who won't last much longer. Due to this rejection, everyone's gone authoritarian in one direction or the other, and I've made my choice in this regard.


heatdeath, r/Christianity/ 11 Comments [8/28/2015 6:11:40 PM]
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Quote# 112332

The willingness of many people to publicly accept the liberal agenda is done only out of fear of punishment by the liberal media and government -- behind closed doors their real opinions are shared. They are forced from a very young age to accept it by all of the voices of authority in school and media, at threat of very clear punishment, to the extent that many live dual lives of secrecy. Eventually things will be so destabilized by the increasing absurdities of liberal oppression (such as the mockery that is same-sex marriage), that conservatives will shift rightwards very rapidly and a populist right-wing movement will arise, which will also have basically all of the guns. The Internet has done a lot to deconstruct old media hegemony and allow for free-thinking people to escape the obligatory programming. At this time of reckoning, the proponents of liberal agenda will be revealed as the enemies of God that they are and handled appropriately.


heatdeath, r/Christianity/ 11 Comments [8/28/2015 6:12:34 PM]
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Quote# 112212

you can even be a kindergarten drop out and still know how ridiculous the theory of evolution is .. it does take a scientist,,, Evolution is all about some how.. some how life began by a big bang and some how that life became all different species and not only that some how all those species figured out they better be males and females in it so it can reproduce.. and some how some of the species became evolutionary scientist that think there smart but believe this nonsense..

epitome, The Christian Post 28 Comments [8/24/2015 1:59:07 PM]
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Quote# 112286

"what is right or wrong" and "murdered" and "And do not see any problem with that"

OK, thank you, John N, for acknowledging the existence of God 3 times in that reply by asserting objective moral values and duties!

Premise 1: If there is no God, then objective moral values do not exist.
Premise 2: Objective moral values DO exist. (Your 3-fold claim above)
Conclusion 2: Therefore, God exists.

WorldGoneCrazy, Christian News Network 38 Comments [8/27/2015 3:59:27 AM]
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Quote# 112365

Are Josh Duggar, Jared Fogle Sexual Sins Genetic?

Last week, Illinois became the fourth state to ban licensed therapy for minors with unwanted same-sex attractions. Like other "RINO" governors such as New Jersey's Chris Christie, Republican Gov. Bruce Rauner is beholden to the gay lobby in Illinois, whose legislature contains a solid majority of like-minded Democrats. Sadly, I was not at all surprised to see another Republican sell out conservative social values for the sake of political expediency.

But I was shocked to hear of Subway's former poster boy, Jared Fogle, who last week was preparing to plead guilty to child exploitation and pornography charges. Also troubling was CNN's Dr. Drew, who commented to Anderson Cooper (who happens to be gay-identified) that Fogle's behavior has "genetic" contributions. Later in the week, it was also revealed that former reality TV star Josh Duggar was outed, along with 32 million other users, for cheating on his wife with the assistance of a website called Ashley Madison, which helps adulterers conveniently and discreetly meet other partners for sexual encounters.

Absolutely none of these sexual issues are genetic or biological.

Josh Duggar was not born with a pre-inclination to inappropriately touch his younger sisters. His genes did not pre-dictate his choice to cheat on his wife. For various reasons, Duggar developed what can be presumed to be a heterosexual pornography addiction.

Similarly, Jared Fogle was not born a pedophile. There is absolutely no sound science to support Dr. Drew's commentary that his genetics contributed to this behavior.

In my professional opinion (and I am hypothesizing), Jared developed a sexual appetite for children through various sources of wounding in his early years. Fogle probably experienced a lack of bonding in childhood and adolescence, followed by bullying due to his overweight condition. This most likely alienated him from his peers and caused him to be developmentally stuck where the childhood bullying (trauma) was the worst. If the trauma is not healed, the object that he didn't bond with (childhood peers) later becomes sexualized in adulthood in order to repair the wound.

This is not so different from unwanted same-sex attraction. When boys do not bond with their fathers, they may also fail to attach to their male peers in youth. When puberty occurs, all of these unmet emotional needs for the same sex become unconsciously eroticized. In other cases, sexual, physical or emotional abuse from older same-sex persons may cause a deep wound in a young male, causing him to once again detach from normal bonding with the same sex and then later sexualize these unmet needs for male acceptance and affection.

Last week, Illinois politicians threw these sexually confused youth under the bus by continuing on a destructive path that started in 2012, when gay activists in California introduced a bill to prohibit any type of therapy for individuals (both adults and minors) who were distressed over unwanted same-sex attractions. They later removed the ban for adults in order to better sell the idea that gay children were being abused and "converted" by licensed therapists who were using all sorts of crazy methods, such as electric shock therapy.

Just so we're straight (no pun intended), this bill was intended to outlaw therapy for everyone, not just children, whose sexual identity did not match their unwanted same-sex attractions.

It's important for readers to understand the difference between sexual identity and unwanted sexual attractions.

Sexual identity refers to the core sense of self, or one's own belief, of who they are sexually. As a professional counselor, every day I sit with clients whose sexual identity is heterosexual, but they are conflicted with unwanted sexual attractions of different varieties. Some are conflicted with unwanted attractions for children (often called pedophilia) or hebephilia (if the object of lust is a pre-teen or teenager).

Others have unwanted attractions towards the same sex, or what is also known as homosexuality. Still, others have unwanted desires for the opposite sex, which is sometimes referred to as heterosexual addiction.

Coming back to the cases of Jared and Josh, neither of these young men self-labeled their sexual identities as "pedophile" or "sex addict." This behavior resulted from emotional deficits and deep wounds. In both cases, these men have expressed remorse over their sexual behaviors and are now experiencing the consequences. Both of these young men also could have greatly benefitted from psychotherapy to help resolve their issues. If we continue on our society's current trajectory, the far left will outlaw the chance for young men like Josh and Jared to heal, while at the same time, put other youth at risk of also being victimized. Youth with unwanted same-sex attractions in four states now (and Washington, D.C.) are at risk for similar fates.

Do not be fooled. The far left is not interested in protecting gay youth from "conversion" therapy. Their goal is to completely remove all sexual constraint and restraint from the social fabric of this country, and eventually, the world.

The left opposes abstinence education in favor of so-called "comprehensive sexual education" programs which often teach public school students how to use condoms by placing them over bananas and playing relay races with each other in class to quickly get protection before engaging in underage sex in real life.

Then, when over half of these young people fail to consistently and correctly wear the condoms during sex, the government funds abortion providers to get rid of their "mistakes," while Planned Parenthood makes another profit by harvesting the aborted organs, tissues and body parts, then selling them.

So don't be confused. We need to call this latest attempt to ban sexually confused youth from getting help for what it really is: The far left's attempt to sexually enslave the next generation. They are not protecting anyone. It's sick, and it's bad policy for conservatives and liberals alike.

To support #TherapyEquality in the remaining 46 states, join us for the Third Annual Safe Exit Summit in Washington, D.C. on October 3-4. For more information, visit www.SafeExitSummit.org.

Christopher Doyle, The Christian Post 13 Comments [8/29/2015 6:17:53 AM]
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Remember, we are bloodied but not beaten.

My dad always told me, “I don’t ever want to hear about you starting a fight. But if some bully is determined to pick a fight, you better finish it!”

That advice should be directed at US, patriots who love America and her Constitution.

The bullies are the Progressives/the Marxists who would prefer to remake the Constitution or toss it entirely.

We flyover folks have been busy doing the right thing: raising families, serving our country, paying too much in taxes, working to support ourselves rather than living on the government dole.

The Progressives started this fight. Now it’s our turn to get fired up and finish it.

Tami Jackson, BarbWire 13 Comments [8/29/2015 4:33:17 AM]
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Well, the definition of sin is missing the mark and breaking God's moral commandments. Which I see anything about condoms in. I don't believe having masses of kids in poverty is what God ordained in His word. To be fruitful and multiply as given in the Genesis account was a command to populate the earth before disease and slavery of debt took over. We are not under Old Testament law, but under the moral law of CHRIST and are not bound by rules and doctrines of men. If man thinks to impose his laws which are not in the Bible than I see your point, but that is not Christisnity, but legalism. Polymorous relationships were never condoned by God. He gave Adam one wife. Abraham took the maidservant because of his wives lack of faith, but these incidents along with others brought great consequences as God said. Just because you read about the human sin in the Bible doesn't mean God ok'd it, but usually brought judgement on it. The Bible is about God intervening in the lives of sinful men and His redemption of mankind. Etc...
I agree with you about imposing our thinking on different realities. But you have to remember the Bible wasn't written from a western mind set but a Middle East mind set and is a book for all peoples. It is very applicable for all generations in all nations as God intended. Just be careful you don't label things as Christian which have nothing to do with CHRIST or His gospel. Also liars will not inherit the kingdom of heaven, so these who live off lies are NOT Christian. 1 Cirinthians 6

jennylynn, Christian News Network 7 Comments [8/29/2015 5:44:41 AM]
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God is love, but He’s also wrath. He’s justice, but He’s also grace. How does that work? How can God love human beings so intensely and at the same time not be bothered by throwing so many of us into hell? How can He be so invested and indifferent at the same time? Because none of us have ever seen the entire picture of God, we often struggle to comprehend how all of our glimpses of Him can fit together. God teaches us all in a different order. When He gives you a glimpse of His love, then He follows that with a glimpse of His mercy and grace, these three things seem to fit together nicely. But then when He gives you a glimpse of His wrath or His fierce jealousy or His delight in revenge, the positive pattern you were getting used to is suddenly proven to be invalid and you feel like you’re starting back at square one with a bunch of confusion. Feeling in doubt about knowing God at all is a common response to Christians getting exposed to some new, shocking insight about Him. Yet if we are willing to be patient and trust our Teacher, we will experience Him neatly weaving all of our insights about Him together into some new, tantalizing shape.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 6 Comments [8/29/2015 6:23:55 AM]
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I'm pro-man's choice. I believe in a man's right to choose. The life growing inside the woman is 50% his, and I don't believe that the woman has a right to kill that life unless the father consents.
That's the only thing I'm hardcore about when it comes to this issue.

A woman's right to choose. I really hate that phrase. It's all just a very pretty nothing meant to make a horrendous act seem like a god given unimpeachable right. Next thing you know they'll be taking away our guns.

Honestly "a woman's right to choose" falls under the idea of "rationalising what's wrong" that I went over a few posts ago. It's this idea that you can come up with whatever excuse you need to to make abortion right in your head.

What about a man's right to choose? If I get a girl pregnant, she can go have an abortion, without my consent. She can choose to murder my child, without my consent at all, no matter what my beliefs on the matter. I'd actually feel a whole lot more comfortable about the issue of abortion if the fathers were given any consideration whatsoever. As it is, it seems women's "unimpeachable rights as americans" trump over integrity and decency in the end.

A woman's right to choose is a load of crap. It's gussying up something really quite ugly: That any woman at any time, simply feeling overwhelmed at the idea of being a mother, can just decide she doesn't want the responsibility, and terminate her child. For no better reason than she just doesn't want to deal with a kid right now in her life.

I think a good compromise would be to reform abortion laws like this:

1) In order for a doctor to perform an abortion, he must have the consent of BOTH parents. The man and the woman. A woman has no right to terminate a mans child without his consent.
2) The only exception is in cases of rape. In those cases a police report would have to have been filed within a certain timeframe after the rape, before the first missed period, to prevent overwhelmed mothers from crying rape just to get an abortion.
3) Any case for an abortion, excepting the cases of rape, must be reviewed before a judge. Financial standing and any mental disorders present in the mother must be taken in to account. If at the end of the day, the judge finds the mother is both financially able to support the child, and mentally capable of taking care of the child, the abortion is denied.

Well technically I'm not an anarchist. It's just easier to say I'm an anarchist than it is to say "I hate the american government, all current forms of government, and want a revolution, but I believe in old fashioned morals and religion and I don't believe a society could exist without some form of government." So though I proclaim to be an anarchist it is only because it allows me to fight our current form of government and society without a big fat explanation.

Yes that seems hypocritical but I really don't care. Revolution, defying conventions, defying society and authority; I share all those ideals with anarchists, but I don't believe in some of the more extreme views of anarchy. So I figure I might as well just call myself an anarchist.
So what if I hate authority. It is only because our current form of authority is stupid, irresponsible, hypocritical, greedy, and abusive. That doesn't mean that I would allow little children to be killed because I'm "supposed" to hate laws and government.

And it's not that I view pregnancy as a crime. It's that I view promiscuity as a crime. If you are stupid and sleep around than you're an idiot and you need to deal with the consequences of your stupid actions instead of punishing the unborn life you created through your stupid actions.
Two wrongs don't make a right and killing an innocent child because he/she is a child of rape is wrong. Carry the child, then if you really don't want it give it to a family who does.


[You cannot force a woman to go through the nine months of pregnancy just because the guy wants the child. It's the woman's body, it's her choice. I do however, feel that the father should at least be notified before an abortion because, for me, I'd be royally pissed if I suddenly found out that a girl had had an abortion without telling me. I wouldn't have tried to change her mind, I wouldn't have tried to influence her, I'd just want to know.]

*bleep* that. Seriously, *bleep* that whole mentality. I don't give a shit if it's her body. She shouldn't have spread her legs in the first place if she didn't want to take that risk. AS THE FATHER, I should have a say in whether or not my child is murdered, period, end of *bleep*ing story. I *bleep*ING HATE that mentallity that just because it's not in MY stomache, means I have no parental rights over the child. That's bullshit to the nth degree tyvm. It's still my *bleep*ing child.

I've been saying this for years. I disagree that a man shouldn't have to pay child support, but what really gets me hot is when people start going on about "a woman's right to choose" in regards to an abortion. If the father for religious, moral, or other reasons doesn't believe in abortion, well he's shit out of luck. He has no say in the process whatsoever and has to live forever knowing that his child was (at least in his mind) murdered and there was nothing he could do about it. Frankly, I won't be happy with abortion being a viable option until the clinics start requiring BOTH parent's consent, or a no contest (basically the man has not signed either a consent or nonconsent form, thus waiving his rights entirely, in which scenario, just as in no contest divorce cases, he must LEGALLY be informed that the mother is sueing for the right to an abortion and giving him roughly 30 days to respond with either a cease and desist or a go ahead).

That's the only way I will EVER be comfortable with abortion being legal.

anonymousguy, neoseeker 42 Comments [8/20/2015 2:30:00 AM]
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