Quote# 137117

There's a difference between being assertive as a man - and being thirsty. There's a difference between being confident and being cocky.

But in today's anti-male/anti-masculinity climate it's difficult just being a man without having to squeeze into some tight pants, raising your voice to a higher pitch while simultaneously handing over your testicles to the nearest feminist.

Don't be fooled by this fake manufactured #MeToo movement stuff. Masculinity was created by God - and it ain't never going out of style! Real women still champion masculinity—nothing less, nothing more.

But if you're going to survive this Jezebelic anti-male witchcraft movement that's sweeping across America while keeping your manhood in tact, you'll need the right tools to provide wisdom for these changing times.

Get a copy of the ebook POWER - and don't be moved by the fake onslaught against real men. If you have young sons or nephews growing up without a father around, or a guy you know who's currently in college (especially if they're in college); they need a copy of this ebook ASAP.

Going without it could very well ruin their lives. There are women out here nowadays looking for men to have consensual relations with, just to later cry sexual assault and harassment for the attention. Don't let it happen to you! Know what to do in order to possess yourself with honor. Get POWER!

Mack Major, Facebook 17 Comments [3/8/2018 6:48:37 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 136996

A dangerous extremist who attempted to build an army of child jihadists by radicalising pupils has been convicted of a range of terrorist offences. Umar Haque, 25, taught an Islamic studies class despite the fact he had no teaching qualifications and was employed as an administrator. He was allowed to supervise classes of 11- to 14-year-olds on his own, during which he re-enacted attacks on police officers and showed students videos of beheadings.

Police fear Haque attempted to radicalise at least 110 children, some of whom he was in contact with at the Ripple Road mosque in Barking, east London. Thirty-five of those children are receiving long-term support. Haque also worked at the £3,000-a-year Lantern of Knowledge Islamic school, where he was again allowed access alone to children under the pretence of teaching Islamic Studies when he was in fact employed as an administrator.

Jurors were told he attempted to radicalise children at the school but were unable to agree on a count of disseminating a terrorist document which related to his time at the school. Haque was convicted by a jury at the Old Bailey on Friday of a range of offences, including plotting terrorist attacks and collecting information useful for terrorism. He had previously admitted four charges of collecting information useful for terrorism, and one count of disseminating a terrorist document, in relation to his attempts to radicalise children at the mosque. He was acquitted of conspiring to possess firearms.

Two other men, Abuthaher Mamun, 19, and Muhammad Abid, 27, were convicted for their roles in helping him. A fourth defendant, Nadeem Patel, 26, who had previously pleaded guilty to possessing a handgun, was acquitted of plotting with Haque. After he was found guilty, Haque shouted “I want to say something”, but was dragged out of the dock by officers. The judge, Mr Justice Haddon-Cave, said he would be sentenced later.

The schools watchdog, Ofsted, is facing questions over how it was able to rate the Lantern of Knowledge school as “outstanding” after an inspection held at a time when Haque was allegedly preaching hate to the children. In response to the conviction it said that Haque’s activities were a matter of deep regret and said it was “hampered by limitations on our powers” to inspect out-of-school settings. “His plan was to build an army of children,” said commander Dean Haydon, the head of counter-terrorism at Scotland Yard. “He had shown them graphic terrorist videos of barbarity – beheading videos and serious injuries mostly in terrorist attacks overseas.

“He had instructed children not to say anything in relation to not telling their teachers or their parents. We had a wall of silence. “He tried to prepare the children for martyrdom by making them role-play terrorist attacks in London. Part of that re-enactment including attacking police officers.” Haque was employed at Lantern of Knowledge from September 2015 to September 2016 as an administrator but also carried out duties as a classroom assistant. He allegedly used his laptop in the school to project on to a whiteboard images of guns, knives, beheadings and passports being burned, the court heard.

In late 2016 and early 2017, Haque was involved in the running of evening classes in a madrasa, based in a large marquee attached to the mosque in Ripple Road. He told the boys aged about 12 to 14 he had established contact with Isis and showed them a series of videos projected on to the wall inside the marquee, ensuring the doors were closed. The horrifying images included blood, wounds, and people falling from buildings. In one film, the exhumation of a boy was shown. Haque told the children the child’s body had deteriorated because he had been beaten after death when he was unable to answer questions put to him by angels.

In the madrasa, Haque had the children doing push-ups, races and grappling in order to train them. There were sessions of role-playing during which the children would be divided into the police and attackers. There were demonstrations of how to sever a head. After the Westminster Bridge attack by Khalid Masood last March, Haque used the atrocity as inspiration for the role-playing.

He said he intended to teach the children to drive as they got older so he could carry out multiple attacks across London. He forced them take an oath not to tell their parents, friends or teachers. He aimed to recruit 300 jihadists, it is claimed. The 35 children in long-term support were “paralysed in fear” by Haque, Haydon said. “He threatened them if they were to talk. It doesn’t appear that any of those children raised the alarm.” Six children gave evidence in court. The trial was shown video of a police interview with a child, who said: “He is teaching us terrorism, like how to fight.”

The boy said: “He has been training us, kind of. Apparently fighting is good. If you fight for the sake of Allah, on judgment day when you get judged for your good deeds and bad deeds, fighting is good.” In November 2015, Ofsted inspectors visited the Lantern of Knowledge school, two months after Haque started working there. In their report, they said: “The strong sense of community, harmony and respect within the school reflects the school ethos and aims of leaders and governors to develop well-rounded citizens. “The spiritual, moral, social and cultural development of pupils is outstanding. They have an excellent understanding of the world around them and make a positive contribution to their community.”

In April 2016, Haque was stopped at Heathrow airport as he attempted to board a flight to Istanbul – a well-trodden route to Syria for aspiring Isis recruits. As a result of the stop and searches conducted of his phone, in May 2016 he had his passport revoked and police started investigating him. In May, he and three others were arrested and charged with attack planning. Further charges related to attempting to radicalise children were filed a few months later. Haque had a long-term plan to launch terrorist attacks on a wide range of possible targets including the Queen’s Guard, parliament and media organisations.

Last June, Ofsted made an emergency inspection at the Lantern of Knowledge school in response to concerns about safeguarding children. On this occasion, the inspectors found it had not met regulatory requirements. After an announced inspection in December, Ofsted dramatically reduced all the ratings from “outstanding” to “requires improvement”. The report said: “Leaders do not ensure that training about risk assessments and procedures to support pupils’ welfare are applied consistently enough during some routine activities.” The Charity Commission is investigating the Ripple Road mosque. Ofsted’s chief operating officer, Matthew Coffey, said it was a matter of “deep regret” that Haque was able to work with children.

“Ofsted is committed to protecting children from harm, including radicalisation,” he added. “However, our ability to do so is hampered by limitations on our powers. We have no ability to inspect out-of-school settings, such as madrassas, and we believe greater powers in this area could help keep children safe in the future. “We know the government is keen to address these matters and welcome their commitment to closer working.”

Umar Haque, The Guardian 10 Comments [3/8/2018 2:01:44 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 136934

Spartan Sense

If you worship your enemy - you are defeated.

If you adopt your enemy's religion - you are enslaved.

If you breed with your enemy - you are destroyed.

Polydoros of Sparta.

This was the preaching of 'Jesus' which the European Folk had forced upon them; it is time to throw off the shackles of Judaeo-Christianity and return to the True Religion of our Northern Folk.

'Heaven' and 'Hell' - stuff them! We shall go to Valhalla and feast with our Gods and our Ancestors!

We shall not worship our enemy!

We shall reject our enemy's religion!

We shall not breed with our enemy!

We shall unite with our Folk-Comrades 'over the pond' and throughout Europe and the White World in this great struggle against the Forces of Darkness and Matter.

Victory or Valhalla!

Wulf Ingessunu, Inglinga 14 Comments [3/1/2018 6:57:47 AM]
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Quote# 137119

Wyatt O'Keefe:

It is important to keep in the mind the Biblical principles relative to the status of the female within the Godly scheme of things. The female was created for the male. Not for herself! Therefore, the Christian Bible keeps things consistent in that when it talks about a male, it often implies that his female is there with him. It is a simple logical syllogism that when talking of the male of a particular kind of an animal, our Bible implies that his female was there with him.

Just as important is to analyze this scientifically. Relative to the command to take seven pairs of clean animals onto the Ark, I have discussed this matter with the utmost esteemed baraminologist, Dr. Todd Elder. He enlightened me regards to a bird called Laysan duck, which went almost extinct in Hawaii, up to where there were only seven adults left. But this duck managed to recover, and now the population numbers in the 100s. In fact, soon Christians may be able to go duck hunting when vacationing on Hawaii! Why does this matter? Simple: because it refutes the evilutionist lies that such population is not enough for "genetic diversity" needed to multiply a whole kind of an animal!

As we know, the Earth was created for the humans. Therefore, it was important that every kind of the clean animal recovered to a healthy stock after the flood so that the people would have their food. The unclean animals didn't really matter, therefore, two pairs of each kind were enough. Because it would not have mattered if some tiger or toad didn't recover to a healthy stock or died off, since the people did not need these animals in the first place! Isn't it great how our Bible is not only spiritually, but also scientifically, true?!

In the name of our Savior,
Brother T

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D., Disqus Grace and Truth 18 Comments [3/8/2018 6:48:52 AM]
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Quote# 137110

Lady Checkmate's headline: "The FBI paid Geek Squad employees as informants"

(Fox News cut-and-paste follows, story here: www.foxnews.com/tech/2018/03/07/fbi-paid-geek-squad-employees-as-informants.html)

This is not new news. Maybe I should rephrase that. This may be the first time it's been reported on, but it public information. Anyone who has been in best buy and read the geek squad tos disclosures knows this.

Lady Checkmate:
Tam, please do us a favor and comment on topic, not on CMs (nor their comments). I had to remove one of your comments where you commented on how the CMs here commented on this thread. Please comment on topic or move on.
*Please read our community guidelines before commenting or posting here again...the link is in our channel's description (top right hand corner of your screen). Do not send me any off topic comments, nor questions nor concerns about my request here. If you have follow-up/clarifying questions or concerns please post them in the proper forum, not here, again, the link is in the guidelines. Sock accounts are both a Disqus TOS violation and a violation of our community guidelines.
Thanks for understanding.

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Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 14 Comments [3/8/2018 12:29:42 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 137087

Olfersisapotato1: Mayra R sad thing is, Obama ordered officers and stuff to kill them when the native were only have a tiny riot but that riot was because they were gonna build pipe to drain oils near their only water source.

Queen Valencia1: Sources?

Olfersisapotato: Queen Valencia don't need a source, but if you must know it was on the news a year ago :/ its very rude of you too say such things though. why must you always need sort of proof WHEN ITS HAPPENING INFRONT OF YOUR STUPID LITTLE EYES

Olfersisapotato1, Youtube 12 Comments [3/7/2018 2:22:42 AM]
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Quote# 137085

(=A response to "Clobbering Biblical Gay Bashing=)

You lost me at: "so I’m not even having that discussion" If you build a whole argument on something that is highly debatable but you won't acknowledge there is another opinion then it is difficult to engage you in the rest of your conversation.

The Bible is very clear on homosexuality- it is a sin. Sleeping with someone before marriage is a sin, cheating on a spouse is a sin, drinking to excess is a sin. A sin is a sin and everyone on this earth has sinned. If you talk to an informed Christian they will admit that these are all sins and that not one is more severe than another. A Christian will do well to love everybody as their brother and sister in Christ but will also do well to point out an error to them when they are in the wrong. The Bible does warn that we shouldn't judge but 2 Timothy 3:16 (NIV) tells us- All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness

The difference between homosexuality and other sins is that one becomes hardened to it. There are other sins that one hardens themselves to but homosexuality is one of the most prominent because it usually isn't a one time thing but more so a lifestyle. The real problem is that when someone becomes hardened to a sin they become separated from God.

What you are saying is discrediting the Bible and like many other people of the times you are trying to read the Bible to fit your opinion. Instead I would encourage you to pray to God and ask him for wisdom to understand the scriptures as it was intended, not as you want to read in to it. Biblical truths are not always popular, but they are truths-
Matthew 7:24- (ESV) “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock.
Isaiah 5:20 (ESV) Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!

Thanks be to God that Christ came to earth as true God and true man, lived the perfect life in our place to be the atoning sacrifice for all of our sins, homosexuality, adultery, murder, etc... Because of this love by God for us we are washed in his blood through this perfect sacrifice for OUR sins. Those that believe in this WILL have eternal life. But my friends please don't be the one that tries to change what God's word actually says and twists his words or follow such false teachings.

2 Timothy 4:2-4 (ESV)- For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

Love your brother and sister in Christ, get to know them on a personal level, help them with their struggles. Furthermore explain to them the love of Christ and what he did for all sinners. Importantly when someone is caught in a Satan's snare and is trapped in a sin point the sin out to the sinner in love and gently bring them back to Christ so that their sin may not cost them their faith in God. Remember it isn't our words that will do the work but God and the Holy Spirit working through them!

DM, Patheos 15 Comments [3/7/2018 2:22:36 AM]
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Quote# 137111

Conserva"pedia is a liberal wiki founded by RINO and Papist Andrew "Andy" Schlafly. Schlafly founded the wiki as a response to what he saw as liberal bias in Wikipedia, but has had no problem with liberal biases of his own.

"Conserva"pedia is known for removing true conservatives from their site if they espouse views that are consistent with the wishy-washy RINO views of Schlafly. The site promotes neocon nonsense, and they believe in further expanding the bloated military budget. They, therefore promote the liberal homosexual agenda through their ringing endorsements for adulterer Donald Trump despite Trump having paid off a porn star regarding an affair they had.

"Conserva"pedia also promotes false religions, such as the Roman Catholic "Church", Protestantism, Eastern Orthodoxy, and Judaism. They are also soft on Islam and are apologists for the liberal former "president" George W. Bush and soft on Barry Soetoro of Kenya.

While claiming to believe Jesus Christ is Lord, they believe in the fake Jesus the papists and "papist-lite" Protestants believe, i.e. the long haired hippie depiction of Jesus.

James A. Wilson, New Testament Baptist Church 20 Comments [3/8/2018 12:29:52 AM]
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Quote# 137113

I support the Mexicans. I got gentrified out of my blue urban neighborhood for knocking up my wife before 30, which you just do not do in Seattle these days. Most of the mothers were older than I was at the local kids’ park, and you should have seen the fathers — they all looked like grandpas.

This rentier urban economy has to stop somewhere. If the hipster SJWs are the ones who have to pay for it, all the better. Let them taste what I had to deal with when I was a little kid dodging rocks and hostile dogs as a little white boy in a crappy urban neighborhood. Maybe they’ll experience a belated awakening.


In Seattle, Mexicans have little to nothing to do with it. Jeff Bezos and his minions, OTOH…

So yes, I would fully support Mexicans protesting against Bezos’s pod people. I’d even chip in for signs and tiki torches.

Bill P, Unz 9 Comments [3/8/2018 12:31:15 AM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 137107

White Supremacy??? Your DIRTY LIARS!!! No one on earth is more supremacist than Muslims!

White Supremacy??? It’s Cruel, Supremacist Muslims who seize non-Muslims for Slaves and Sex Slaves.

The EVIL, INHUMANITY and enormous suffering of slavery has been a HUGE part of savage, barbaric Islam for 1,400 years.

Linda Rivera, Bare Naked Islam 13 Comments [3/7/2018 2:51:46 PM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 137086

I'm not a bigot, I can tolerate Muslims dissenting from me, no problem. Muslims agreeing with me, however, would force me into an existential crisis

Why exactly?

Because I would lose all faith in my own narrow-mindedness. And if I'm not narrow-minded, what does that make me? A freethinker. And freethinkers reject revelation, which would mean I'm living a lie.

The Parkus Empire, nationstates 11 Comments [3/7/2018 2:22:39 AM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 137095

Rule of thumb:

* If a woman is at the gym, don't hit on her.

* if a woman is in class, don't hit on her.

* if a woman is at the store, don't hit on her.

* if a woman is at church, don't hit on her.

* If a woman is at work, definitely don't hit on her.

* if a woman is walking late at night or in a parking lot, DO NOT HIT ON HER OR RUN REALLY FAST BEHIND HER. She will actually think you're trying to murder her.

Really, just be out in the day, do your normal routine, and see if the woman makes eye contact with you repeatedly (don't stare, but occasionally glance over at odd second intervals). If she does, walk up slowly and say hi in a timid voice, introduce yourself and ask about what she is doing (if at a coffee shop, ask about her drink). Bring out your phone and white knight on reddit.

Make light banter while defending women. If she's looking like she wants to leave (holding tight to her bag, glancing away, checking her phone, blinking quickly, breathing rapidly) wish her a good day (m'lady) and leave quickly. If she curls her hair behind her ear, makes direct eye contact a lot, and smiles--get those digits.

TSlidec, r/MaleForeverAlone 11 Comments [3/7/2018 9:34:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 137094

We live in dark times

Ugly men are roaming the streets, living their sick, demented lives. These monsters have no boundaries, they literally talk to women at social places. And what's worse, they say things like "hey" and "want to go out with me?" The government won't step in and do something. Women live in constant fear, all because of these ugly men. These men can't take no for an answer. Obviously it doesn't matter that the woman never said no, she was too horrified to open her mouth and the ugly brute was too dumb to read her mind. And the consequences are only more sever if she does say no. Women are murdered at a startling rate for literally being forward and rejecting a man. Soon, it will be too late, and women will have no choice but to go on dates with these men. All of this could have been adverted, if only ugly men knew their place. I blame our patriarchal society for letting these men exist.

TSlidec, r/MaleForeverAlone 9 Comments [3/7/2018 9:34:13 AM]
Fundie Index: 8
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 137073

[When imported industrial goods are immediately thrown into the void]

I have already proved that free trade is totally incompatible with nationalism, national sovereignty, and the future survival of the nation due to the labor mobility required by it. Now I will prove that even complete autarky would, in the present circumstances, be of material benefit to the United States economy.

First, what passes for the macroeconomic facts, courtesy of the BEA:

Q4 2017 GDP was $19,386.2 billion.
Net exports were $2,420.7 billion
Net imports were $3,020.8 billion

Now, let us accept the free trade advocates' standard argumentum ad absurdum and suppose that Donald Trump actually does shut down all international trade going forward. Let us suppose that China, Japan, and the EU all retaliate with 100-percent tariffs and refuse to sell into the world's most profitable consumer market. What does this mean in statistical terms?

It means the US economy loses $2.4 trillion in exports and gains $3.0 trillion in imports. Remember, GDP is calculated by the following formula: C+I+G+(x-m). So, this much-feared trade war, at its theoretical worst, would result in the instantaneous growth of the US economy from $19,386.2 billion to $19,986.3 billion GDP.

That is three percent annual growth, which is faster economic growth than the USA has enjoyed since the 1990s. In other words, the very worst scenario that the free traders can envision actually guarantees a bigger and better economy growing faster than the USA has seen for more than 20 years. And given the fact that US manufacturing prices are more expensive, the actual GDP growth will probably be in excess of that.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 13 Comments [3/6/2018 1:12:54 PM]
Fundie Index: 8

Quote# 136551

This nation has gone down the toilet morally. I was in a hotel in Hawaii and the woman at the front desk waiting in line in front of me had on a white bikini. You could literally see her buttock's crevice through her bikini, butt naked in public. That's the new morality in America and it's bringing God's judgment upon our nation. People laugh and think it's a trifle matter, failing to realize that the murder of 53,000,000 human beings is directly related to our nation's attitude toward modesty. As television drags America down into the abyss of darkness, so also does our morals follow.

Praise God for you ladies who wear dresses and try not to make it any harder than it already is for the Christian men in America (who are trying to live right for the Lord).

The Unchanging Word Of God

The greatest victory Satan ever had over America was when our nation separated Jesus Christ from morality in the 1930's. When wealthy Jews formed Hollywood and opened its doors in the 1930's, they had every intention of subverting America.

This is evidenced in a publication so sensitive today that even mentioning it will result in this webpage likely being censored, so I will only link to it (the publication is over a century old and not very exciting reading; but if you do read and understand it, it is EXACTLY what is happening in the world today). People can say what they want, the publication has been prophetic (that's because it is indeed a blueprint for world conquest).

[Note: The publication he links to is The Protocols of the Elders of Zion]

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 14 Comments [2/18/2018 6:33:01 AM]
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Quote# 136284

[lyrics to "Dying in Pain"]

Whores, with one sole desire
To beautify the flesh, and needing to be admired
Whores, with no self-respect
For them I feel nothing but utter contempt

Endless years of misery,
Remembering how things once used to be
Living in a world fraught with indignity

Dying in pain
In a world I've come to disdain
Honor extinct
In a world that's turning gay
Dying in pain
Faggots are all that remain
Leftist culture of no worth
I'm the last man on earth

Faggots, forcing acceptance of their ways
Dragging our culture through the gutter
Of moral decay
Men, so-called men
So shamelessly weak and fucking effeminate

Endless years of misery,
Remembering how things once used to be
Living in a world fraught with indignity

Women who have no fucking class
Empowered by men in the pursit of ass
Balless men, such a disgrace
I'd love to smash in their fucking face
You spineless fucks propping women up
Instead of telling cunts to shut the fuck up
Murderous whores, fascist voice
Murders veiled under the guise of choice

Skullduggery of boundless shame
Women whoring themselves in the pursuit of fame
Leftist world preaching tolerance
This leftist world ain't makin' much sense
Real men are now all but extinct
Faggots, pussies and shemale freaks
Feminist agenda: male castration
End of man by the hand of cunt liberation

The end, the end is coming near
Extinction of man, all that's left are queers
War! Culture war at hand
Liberal elite ensuring the fall of man

Endless years of diversity,
Seeing what this world has come to be
This is the decline of western society

Dying in pain
In a world I've come to disdain
Honor extinct
In a world that's turning gay
Dying in pain
Faggots are all that remain
Leftist culture of no worth
I'm the last man on earth

The Raunchous Brothers, The Metal Archives 17 Comments [2/3/2018 7:05:33 AM]
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Quote# 137108

with the exception of pol pot - who was a CIA stooge and defeated by communists - it's straight up dishonest history to describe those communist regimes as genocidal.

Piss_Communist, r/ukpolitics 8 Comments [3/7/2018 2:51:53 PM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 137081

Most chronic illnesses are genetic to at least some extent. If we make healthcare "free" anywhere it ruins the last little bit of natural selection we have. The chronically ill will breed, create more chronicially ill, and so on and so forth until their are too many to support and it topples the whole system.

Also, when you make healthcare universal you are stealing from me at gunpoint to pay for it. It is immoral.


I dont want to pay for any public health care. It is all immoral and bad for the species.

No evidence that many chronic illnesses are in part genetic? That is ludicrous. Everything about every living creature is mostly or partially genetic. Next, youll be telling me Im 6'3 because of my environment.

Flat_Earth_Shill, r/AskReddit 15 Comments [3/7/2018 2:22:20 AM]
Fundie Index: 9

Quote# 136919

This is more geared towards relationship advice and I have posted on different subreddits to get the best advice possible.

My sister Lily(fake name)is not only my sister, but my best friend as well.She is beautiful,kind,intelligent,and very likable.She does charity work like helping our church on food drives and volunteering at a soup kitchen for the homeless.She did something very wrong, but I believe she is a good person.My brother Luke(fake name) is not biologically related to me or the rest of our family, but that doesn't really matter.7 years ago my mom's best friends(Luke's biological parents) died in an automobile accident and our family decided to adopt him.Regardless of genetics Luke is my brother and I love him and care for hm.

In short I caught my sister molesting my younger brother Luke.This has apparently been going on for months and my sister begged me not to tell my parents.However after long thought,prayer,and posting to r/changemyview I decided to tell my parents.

My parents freaked out and kicked Lily out.Even though I begged them not to they went to the police.I called Lily and she told me that she understood why I told our parents and that she still loves me and Luke.My parents saw that I was contacting Lily and they forbade me from contacting her.They told me that they love Lily in spite of what she did and they know that I love Lily.However, what Lily did was wrong and we have to cut off contact with Lily and perhaps in the future we can reconnect with her and bring her back into the family.

My brother is in therapy right now and my parents came and asked me if I wanted to see a therapist.I told them no because not only do I not need it, but I don't want to divert any attention Luke can get.My sister is my rock.She is always there for advice and whenever I'm trouble.I trust her,love her,and care for her.Not being able to talk to her and offer support in a time where she is going through so much is killing me.After all Lily always supported me through my troubles.

I keep pleading with my parents to let me contact her, but they are firm in their decision to not let me contact her.I keep second guessing my decision to tell my parents because not only do I miss not having my sister, the consequences she face may be enormous.

My parents are Presbyterian so I wanted to form a Christian argument to why they should allow me to have contact with my sister again and that's why I'm here.

Does anybody have any advice on what I should say to my parents for this to work?

It means that you need to decide who you care about more: your younger brother, or your younger brother's RAPIST. Have you even considered how your behaviour is impacting on your brother?

If you love him as much as your sister you should show it, and stop trying to keep this connection to his abuser. You are HURTING your family and they will resent you for it in the end, if they don't already.

You need to grow up and realise that your sister is not the person you thought she was. She's a child abuser and the fact that you're choosing this abuser over your brother is astonishing to me.

You seem to be incapable of recognising that what you're doing is actively harmful. You NEED therapy. And the fact that you're constantly posting this on different subreddits and deleting it when you don't get the validation you want shows that deep down you know this is wrong. PLEASE, get therapy. Your choices now could affect your entire future with your family.

If it comes down to my brother or my sister.......Well I won't lie, I'll choose my sister even though what she did was wrong.

Yes,my sister is a child abuser, but does that mean I should stop loving her?

Also I'm not harming anybody right now.I just want to talk to her on the occasion.My brother will never know.How am I hurting anybody by talking to my sister?

Wow. WOW. You will choose to support a pedophile over her victim. This is absolutely abhorrent on every level, and trying to hide behind your faith will not work.
You ARE harming people - your parents are dealing with what your sister did, trying to make sure this doesn't ruin your brother's life and ON TOP OF THAT you're trying to force them into accepting this continued contact with the person who has caused all this in the first place! This is undoubtedly causing harm, and you're trying to justify that to make yourself feel better. You are an incredibly selfish person.

Actually maybe you should move out and stay in contact with your brother's rapist, you sound like you deserve each other.

I'm sorry, but I won't stop loving my sister.If Jesus loved and forgave humanity for our sins shouldn't I at the very least attempt to be like Jesus and love my sister?

isawmysister, reddit 7 Comments [3/1/2018 6:55:00 AM]
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Quote# 137045

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Florida father, daughter caught having sex in their backyard, reports say"

(Fox News cut-and-paste follows, here's the link: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/04/florida-father-daughter-caught-having-sex-in-their-backyard-reports-say.html)

Lady Checkmate:
The alt left will argue that they're two consenting adults AND what they're doing is "love winning"...notice the lower case 'l' in love. God is Love and does not condone, honor nor celebrate sin nor abominations.

US Showdown:
Democrats will be democrats......

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 39 Comments [3/5/2018 9:28:49 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 136973

Progressives will NEVER have the “high moral ground” for the simple reason they are utterly lacking in morality. They are, almost without exception, unprincipled Dumb Sh***s with an insane NWO agenda that mandates the destruction of everything that is good and decent in society. Their Utopian future is all about chaos and hatefulness, and the complete submission by remaining Humanity to self-styled elites lording it over them. . ..

For mankind ( NOT peoplekind, Trudeau ) to survive, all ‘progressives’ must be neutralized. There is NOTHING to debate with them — just remove them from civilized society!

DonT, Bare Naked Islam 14 Comments [3/1/2018 12:52:01 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 126332

Arthur Belling:
Listen Sedagive, I had a real life blood disease. It was called Thrombotic Thrombocytopenic Purpura or TTP for short. The treatment involved getting plasma infusions - I was given fresh frozen plasma in a process called plasmapheresis. There was no "bloodless" option for me. It was that or DIE. How very sweet and compassionate of you and members of your faith to tell me that I should HAVE ELECTED TO DIE rather than have this procedure done. So don't tell me my views are "archaic", practically everyone who got this disease before the 1950s died from it. Your heartless standpoint is so utterly horrible I can't even find the words for your lack of compassion.

Dude that's harsh. He would have died without the transfusion, and you're saying that's what he should have done?

Re-read what I said. I said for anyone who remotely cares about God, about God's laws, and has a grasp on God's promise of the resurrection for those faithful, they'd have properly refused a transfusion. Since none of that applies to him, it doesn't matter, does it?

So you think he should have chosen to die...really?

Yep, I would have.

Are you even listening to yourself? A life can be saved with a simple medical procedure and you think he should choose to die?

Are you even listening to YOURSELF? A life may be saved temporarily, only to be lost permanently because of disobeying God. I'd rather die than lose out on that promise of living forever. Hmmm.....MAYBE live a little longer now but lose out on living forever. Or....MAYBE dying now, but promised to be restored to life with the chance to live forever. It's not even a question of the sane choice.

Sedagive, Disqus - Religion 16 Comments [4/15/2017 11:15:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 36573

"No one is ordering the man to go to Church. They are simply giving him a choice of Church or jail."

jeff316, Where's George Forums (money-tracking) 60 Comments [3/22/2008 6:56:53 AM]
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Submitted By: benjdm

Quote# 137082

I'm not sure if many see the irony in a Comanche descendent urging and exhorting whites to reclaim their heritage and nation. Sadly, most whites probably haven't heard of Dr. Yeagley or aren't heeding his sage advice and most Indians are still nursing historical grudges towards the white man to ally with us.

From what I've been able to learn about Dr. Yeagley he was very pragmatic and clear headed about race relations and the consequences of mass third world immigration. And I think he understood before most that the fate of the North American Indians is tied to that of the white race, their former conquerors. And if we become too weak or perish, then ultimately they will too as the third world hordes are completely devoid of magnanimity and tolerance towards their vanquished foes.

Reality is, no one will consider the survival of Native Americans, let alone their good, this side of whitey. Any Native American with a shred of sense ought to know that outside of those motivated by Anglo-Saxon concepts of civilization no one will exercise any responsibility toward Native Americans or be willing to serve as their protecting great power. The same, actually, is true of African Americans. Some understand that, but they are ostracized under the Popular Front regime.

Dave4088, American Renaissance 4 Comments [3/7/2018 2:22:23 AM]
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Quote# 137004

Part of our problem regarding human rights is that the Christian concept of the community has been debased.

I have become convinced that freedom of religion was, in its time, considered sufficient for ensuring communal freedom in the United States. To British settlers and early Americans, the church was the community. I don’t think anyone who knows American history can honestly argue against that point. However, in recent times this fact of American life, which was always taken for granted until only a few decades ago, has been largely eradicated.

Thus we are left only with individual rights, which are inconsequential to an organization with a monopoly on force, e.g. the ATF and FBI in 1993 during the Waco siege.

When Christians no longer have the right to form their own communities according to their own principles, they are rendered impotent and defenseless.

Freedom of religion is essential in that there is ultimately no rational basis for human rights or liberty. As was made clear in the founding documents of the United States, our rights are God-given, and not subject to repeal based on sophistry or the declamations of prophet killers or would-be deicides.

Bill P, Unz 15 Comments [3/3/2018 7:14:40 AM]
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