Quote# 125279

The Main Course

President Trump rips the press again. Many have waited their whole life to see somebody put the media in line the way Trump can. Cartoon by A.F. Branco ©2017.

A.F. Branco, Comically Incorrect 25 Comments [3/10/2017 11:23:47 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 125277

[Comment under "TIL of Ossip Bernstein, a famous chess grandmaster, who was sentenced to death by the Bolsheviks in 1918. While he was facing the firing squad, a russian officer that heard his name offered him the chance to prove his identity in a game of chess. He beat the officer and was released."]

bankers and landlords starve people

There is no evidence and this doesn't even make sense, because they would lose money if their employees died

Collectivized farming is a failure and killed millions

But you're perfectly okay with this...?

Really makes you think ??

Ends justify the means. The USSR became a superpower under Stalin, with average lifespan and standard of living massively increasing.

Stickmanville, Reddit - r/todayilearned 10 Comments [3/10/2017 11:22:16 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

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Rep. John Shimkus (R-IL) got into a battle with Rep. Mike Doyle (D-PA) Thursday during a House Committee on Energy and Commerce hearing for the healthcare bill.

While discussing the GOP’s new bill, Doyal asked what Shimkus could possibly have a problem with that is mandated in Obamacare. He rattled off some of the things Americans have said they like, kids being able to stay on their parents’ insurance until 26, not being kicked off for pre-existing conditions or stopping caps on benefits.

Shimkus replied that men shouldn’t have to pay for prenatal care.

“I’m just — I — is that not correct?” Shimkus stuttered. “Should they?”

Doyal seemed so dumbfounded he couldn’t find his words either. He reclaimed his time. “There’s no such thing as ala cart insurance, John,” he explained.

Shimkus said that was the thing he had a problem with. “That’s the point! That’s the point!” he exclaimed. “We want the consumer to be able to go to the insurance market and be able to negotiate on a plan that –”

“You tell me what insurance company will do that,” Doyle interrupted. “There isn’t a single insurance company in the world that does that, John.”

John Shimkus, Raw Story 15 Comments [3/10/2017 10:54:49 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

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"I've said it before. Any religion that invents a god that invents hell is an evil religion. Think about it. It's practitioners are saying that not only will you go to hell but that you DESERVE hell. You and everyone you love."

It's practitioners are saying that not only will you go to hell but that you DESERVE hell... Not really. It is more that you desire hell and God, being obliging, lets you have your way. Basically, if you choose to have a life apart from God, then He doesn't compel you have one. Granted, life apart from God is bad, but can you blame God for people actively choosing with full knowledge of the intellect the wrong thing? That would be like saying doctors are to blame for people who refuse treatment and die. Sure, they may have lived if they went with the doctor, but they are to blame if their denial of the good causes them suffering.

Master Samwise, Disqus - Religion 21 Comments [3/9/2017 6:04:30 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 125247

If the Bible was written by men, then why does it prompt us to seek forgiveness from a Divine Creator? Why would men write such a fairytale condemning all of humanity to Hell? Has anyone ever written a book such as the Bible? Archeologists and explorers have been discovering thousands of scrolls, tablets and fragments of the Bible for centuries.

People have uncovered all of these findings in scattered places throughout the Middle East, in multiple languages. Can any book throughout history claim such remarkable exposure? And if men did write the Bible without ant Divine inspiration, then how did the forty Biblical writers, over 1,500 years of history, manage to complete such a seamless masterpiece of prophecy? The Quran can not claim this, it contains no prophecy.

God is Amazing! I am always intrigued, captivated, and stand in awe when I consider the universe. What was God thinking? Did He really create all of those stars (the nearest star to earth being 4.24 light years away) just for mankind to have a night light? (Genesis 1:14-19). Yes, that is what the Bible teaches. God gave us the sun, moon and stars. This is why mankind will NEVER find any intelligent life in the universe apart from the earth. God created it all for us.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 24 Comments [3/9/2017 3:10:26 PM]
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Quote# 125246

Although the Supreme Court in 2015 made it legal for same-sex couples to get married across the United States, several lawmakers in Arkansas are trying to challenge that ruling with a new bill that would rescind their state’s recognition of same-sex marriages.

The New Civil Rights Movement notes that GOP Arkansas Rep. Stephen Meeks has introduced a new bill that would make it state policy to only recognize marriage as being between a man and a woman.

“Marriage shall be only between a man and a woman. A marriage between persons of the same sex is void,” the bill reads. “It is the public policy of the State of Arkansas to recognize the marital union only of man and woman… Marriages between persons of the same sex are prohibited in this state.”

Additionally, the bill would not recognize the marriages of same-sex couples who move to Arkansas from states that do recognize same-sex marriages.

Meeks has attracted 20 additional Republican co-sponsors for his bill so far.

Arkansas GOP, Raw Story 24 Comments [3/9/2017 3:09:31 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 125219

for anyone wondering why killing of the firstborn:

a) Pharaoh had 9 warnings, even from Moses, so there should've been no reason for it to go that far. Even his own men were begging him.
b) Pharaoh killed Israelite babies which implied he should be okay with it happening to him and his own people. This is to show hypocrisy is wrong and poetic justice.
c) The line of Judah, where the promised Messiah would come from is under threat. If Israel had been wiped out or what not, there would be no savior and we would all still be guilty of our sins.?

Mi Les, youtube 17 Comments [3/9/2017 1:41:37 PM]
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Submitted By: PETF

Quote# 125243

Last month, “respected prophet” Cindy Jacobs preached at a church in New Jersey, where she prophesied that God wants Christians to be rich so that there will be a “great harvest” of Jewish conversions when they see their Christian neighbors becoming “profoundly wealthy.”

“What the Jews have, we have,” Jacobs proclaimed. “However, we have more when we’re in Christ because the Holy Spirit is inside us, empowering us to do the good works we’re called to do.”

“I want to say to you,” she continued, “that one of the things I believe that’s going to bring a great harvest of Jews is the Christians becoming so profoundly wealthy … that it’s going to make them jealous. The wealth and the riches that we’re able to obtain is going to make them jealous.”

“Do you think our poverty is going to make a Jew jealous?” she asked. “Come off it! No, we are meant to prosper. Why? Because they understand, in their culture, that obedience to God brings blessing.”

Cindy Jacobs, Right Wing Watch 19 Comments [3/9/2017 2:56:50 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 125242

Porn stars belittle all women. As long as men look at women as a sex object, we won't get the credibility we deserve.

Sharon Gebur, Facebook 24 Comments [3/9/2017 2:56:32 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

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Catholic Nationalist, Facebook 12 Comments [3/9/2017 2:56:11 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 125238

(The article was on a Nigerian church collapse that resulted in the deaths of at least 60 people.)

They were Christians, so they kinda deserved it for being idiots.

EricNeoMatrix, Friendly Atheist 20 Comments [3/9/2017 2:03:21 PM]
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Quote# 125237

[From an article about a proposed bill to introduce universal healthcare to California.]

Californians need to bring a class action suit against this rogue California government! The nerve to force healthcare for illegals on California tax payers! This better NOT circumvent the voters voice! California greatly passed prop. 187 years ago, that proposition denied benefits to illegals PERIOD! It passed by with a 60% margin and the voters wishes were IGNORED by this state. STOP forcing American Citizens to pay for anything that illegals have NO right to. California government are criminals and anti-American.

Take note America and NEVER elect another Democrat or left wing candidate. You well regret it. Don't let your state turn into California.

BourneInTheUSA ?'s ?TrumpUSA???? (yes that's their real username), Mercury News 19 Comments [3/9/2017 2:03:14 PM]
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Submitted By: Into the Unknown

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Anonymous, Whisper 12 Comments [3/9/2017 1:53:24 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 125236

Pastor Sam Nunez: Jesus is coming soon. Be ready. I believe something is going to happen and a lot of people don’t know it. They’ve heard about Jesus and understand he is our savior, but very few think the words he said — that he would come again — are going to happen. The best way to prepare is to read his word and follow it. I think we’re living in times where we see lots of things happening which point to this return. There’s a lot of tension and stress and we need to look up for answers. Jesus says he has conquered the world and in him we can find peace.

SDR: What’s your main concern as a member of the clergy?

PN: We’re not reading our Bible. I see members in our church and in other denominations where people like to come to church and hear pastors preach. That’s basically their spiritual meal for the week. In some ways there is an illiteracy in scripture, and I don’t know if it’s because of work or other priorities in life, but there is a neglect in reading the word, understanding it, and applying it.

Sam Nunez, San Diego Reader 7 Comments [3/9/2017 2:01:58 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 125232

#Christ warns “A GOOD and TRUE Muslim, according to the Holy Qur’an and the Teachings of Almighty God Allah(?#?MasterFardMuhammad?), to me;

Will not have ANYTHING to do with, or show sympathy, Or love for a hypocrite.

Though they may be their own near of kin, their parents, their sisters, their brothers and their own children.

This is taught in the Holy Qur'an and also taught in the Bible by Jesus; wherein that he says, in Matthew, that “if you would be my disciples, then you must first HATE your mother, brother, sister, and your own beloved ones and pick up your cross and come follow me.” Honorable Elijah Muhammad: Warning to the Hypocrites

"?#?Jesus? taught his diciples and the world to even hate those that did not believe in Almighty God, Allah, and he as His Messenger. And to keep AWAY from them and not even to take them for friends.

The same goes for the Holy Qur’an. The Holy Qur’an teaches us against even befriending a disbeliever or hypocrite for they are the friends of the devil and not the friends of God, nor the Messenger, nor those who follow and believe the Messenger. They hate all.

When they turn back they hate God and denounces Him as being a false God or not the real God and hate the Messenger and those who are with the Messenger. This is true and is going on at this very minute.” Honorable Elijah Muhammad?

doomalert19, Tumblr 7 Comments [3/9/2017 1:55:16 PM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

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Anonymous, Whisper 15 Comments [3/9/2017 1:54:21 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

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Anonymous, Whisper 15 Comments [3/9/2017 1:54:01 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

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Anonymous, Whisper 14 Comments [3/9/2017 1:53:54 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

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In some blogs, I've seen women presented as the destroyers of Western civ. Are Western women obscenely selfish, objectifying, and obsessed with status and Alpha males? Sure. Do they tear down the fabric of Western civilization so they can screw barbarians to satiate their narcissism? I think it's a bit more nuanced than that. Women have a different sexual strategy than men, but they aren't dangerous unless unrestrained and hysterical (ex. the Swedish feminist government).

Similarly, the argument that Jews are the virus to Western Civ (with different purposes than women) is overwrought IMO. I saw Macdonald make an objective mistake with how he portrays Jewish holidays, and it made me question the objectivity of the rest of his work. Doesn't mean there isn't some truth his claims, though.

Rameses2, Reddit 4 Comments [3/9/2017 1:53:01 PM]
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Quote# 125221

Was Donald Trump the best candidate to pick for zoo rights as a way of preventing the cat lady demographic from taking over the White House and Supreme Court?

1) You just know Clinton had two justices lined up a good deal more liberal than Merrick Garland, and we'd absolutely end up with two more Ginsburgs (once she kicks the bucket because seriously, she's old). You're not going to see a lefty SC pick defending bestiality on a national level, and while you're not going to see a standard conservative do so either, you'd be more likely to get a Libertarian justice under Trump who just might be edgy as fuck enough to do so.

2) She's reblogging George Takei shitposts. She's liking every post on Occupy Democrat. She's knitting her hat for the pussy march between strokes of her housecat's back. She's signing online petitions. She's sobbing about endangered species and animal welfare while she has a beef roast preparing in her slow cooker. She's having her morning Starbucks instant coffee before heading out to brunch with the girls to have even more Starbucks coffee and talk about the latest thing Trump did that she read on Thinkprogress, and you just know her minivan has a COEXIST sticker on the back of it.

It's the most staunch enemy of zoophiles in the past few decades, the white feminist liberal cat lady. Or maybe staunch isn't the right word, because the cat lady doesn't really fixate on any particular cause, and doesn't have much energy to do anything but sit around on Facebook clicking on fake news article and getting outraged about whatever social causes her media sphere tells her to get outraged about. But, mind you, this is separate from what Reddit usually chimps it about in regards to >THE SJWS REEEEEEEEEEE. Because while the common social justice warrior actually makes an effort at being woke, the cat lady is mostly driven by simple moral disgust, and is actually pretty fucking ignorant when it comes to the issues outside of the bubble of being a straight, cisgendered middle class white woman.

"Ugh! I miss when presidential candidates had class. I miss the days of Reagan and Kennedy," you'll hear her pine, without any irony whatsoever and despite being a 21st century Democrat. "I can't believe our children's president is going to be someone who says 'grab them by the you-know-what!' What will we tell them?"
"These poor, starving Syrian children! Did you see that picture of that dead one washed up on the coast? Bless his little heart, we should take in the entire MENA region to save all of those kids."

"Bestiality? Ugh! Sick, sick, sick! They should get raped by an animal and see how they like it! Here's a link to donate to the Humane Society, everyone."

Take a look at the end of this video.

Take a look at any Facebook or local news comments section.

It's just cat ladies. It's almost always the cat ladies screeching about the evil animal rapists, combined with the occasional dumbass old right-wing cat lady who believes that Obama is the devil and shares even more autistic memes than the left-wing cat lady does, and there's a pretty high chance she ended up staying home or voting for Clinton regardless because she was too emotionally distraught as a result of some of Trump's remarks. And that isn't to say that there's not non-cat ladies against bestiality too, because seriously, most people are, but it's cat ladies who are prone to outrage and boredom enough to adopt fighting it as their pet cause because they actually do not have anything more interesting to do in their life and they aren't politically savvy enough to actually care about causes more important.

Thoughts? And really, Trump/Bannon do not strike me as being the type to actually give a shit about zoophilia at all, whether it's supporting or opposing it. Trump's a moral degenerate when it comes to sex, and Bannon is much more concerned about other cultural battles as well as the impending horde of migrants from South America that will be heading up north once global warming really starts to kick in.

Cephaliarch, /r/zoophilia 18 Comments [3/9/2017 1:44:48 PM]
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Quote# 125218

Here’s a thousand things that are wrong with not referring to God as a He.

1. It’s essentially disrespectful to the text, where God refers to himself exclusively as a He.

2. It makes men the enemy. You’ve already made God your enemy, by not referring to him by the pronoun he chooses for himself. It’s obvious, then, what you think of men. Should men, then, give up their male pronouns? I know you think so, but you’re devaluing and making an enemy out of the Other.

3. You’re ruining the English language, as indeed does anyone who insists on being referred to as “they” or “xe”. English deals in gendered pronouns. Other languages have an easy use of neuter pronouns, but we don’t. Of course, if you’re translating the Bible into those languages, and you can chose a male pronoun, you probably should, since that’s largely how God refers to Himself in the Hebrew and Greek.

4. If you feel like you’re cut out of the picture, as a female, because God is male, you have a dismal picture of yourself and God. Maybe this is the church’s fault for a thousand years, but I really doubt it. I think feminism has managed to make women feel cut out of the picture, when they haven’t been. Unless you take up the Whole picture, say some feminists, its like you’re not even in the picture. Which is foolish and selfish and wrong. The picture is actually of God, and you don’t get to be in the picture, much, except maybe as a tiny roughed out sketch in the bottom corner. And here’s the thing about God–which you would discover if you read the Bible–he is big enough to Know You As You Are. He isn’t limited by gender in the way that men and women are. You can’t understand the man, because the man is unlike you. You can’t understand God, because God is unlike you. You can’t understand yourself because you’re crazy. But God is not bound by these limitations. He doesn’t understand you, as a woman, imperfectly because he takes a male pronoun. He understands you better even than you understand yourself because he made you. Truly, a woman can approach the throne of grace, can come before the Savior, can be known and loved by God just as a man can. No difference, no distinction, no limitations. The trouble comes when you project your sense of humanity, of the broken gendered relationships of men and women, into the heavens. Which we do all the time.

5. When you get rid of gendered pronouns, for everyone, but especially for God, you actually increase the distance you have to go to understand and know each other. You force the Other to come onto your ground, your space, your sense of who you are, and know you in that space. Which they can’t do. They can’t. And truly, this is the opposite of love described in the Bible. Your tiny, impossible pronoun makes it impossible for you to love God, yourself, and others with the agape love of self sacrifice and self out pouring. You Cannot love the other, so focused as you are on your gender identity, which means you will never be able to love yourself. Whereas, if you address God as He, and other people in reasonable and normal ways, and don’t demand that people get on board with who you are, you shift your focus out towards the Other, towards the world. Which means that there is hope for you as a person. It’s all about love, it really is.

6. And finally, because six is the number of man and not of God, when you refuse to refer to God as He you really look catastrophically small and foolish. So ungracious, so unlovely, so tortured is the one shouting “Godself” over the din of a congregation mumbling along through the prayers that the sensible person shudders and slips out the back and goes out for a coffee instead of taking communion. What are you trying to prove? You who refuse to think of God as a man. Do you think you get an extra special blessing? Congratulations from your tribe? As I tweeted some weeks ago, “I take particular pleasure in referring to God as He, not only because the Bible does, but also because it makes all the right people angry.”

Anne Kennedy, Patheos 10 Comments [3/9/2017 1:41:17 PM]
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Quote# 125037

In high school I learned about some Indian war (I think it was Wounded Knee) which was started because some Indian chief had a vision that he saw the "messiah" who told him to dance a certain dance so that if he got everyone to do it, eventually it would bring about the resurrection of Native Americans and the burial of the White Men. Interestingly enough, the White Men saw all of these Indians doing this strange dance out of nowhere and started shooting and ended up being a massacre. Moral of the story, don't trust anything that does not come from God because it is always demonic.

pmpn8rGPT, Orthodox Christianity 14 Comments [3/2/2017 6:38:12 AM]
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Submitted By: zipperback

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[On satirical media depictions of him and Trump]

I don’t sit there and say stuff about you that isn’t true. I don’t say Alec Baldwin’s a child molester. I don’t say Jake Weber’s a child molester. I don’t say you’re working with Muslim terrorists. It’s not funny! But I know it’s how much you hate the American people, that’s who you really hate. You hate the liberty movement and you hate that we’re kicking your ass politically. And just like we’re kicking your ass politically, we’re just going sit back and let you try to start your race war, we’re just going to take it. And I am going to put my energy and all of my aggressive warlike energy into politically annihilating you.

I pray to God, on the altar of Jesus Christ, and the Father and the Holy Spirit to give me the strength and just to continue to have the hedge of protection of Providence. I know I don’t deserve this Providence but God knows I mean what I’m doing, so God, please, please, please, please open everybody’s eyes and raise up other leaders to defeat these people. I just want to see this scum defeated. They hate us so much. They are sickening filth. God they are the most dishonorable monsters the world has ever seen.

Alex Jones, Right Wing Watch 17 Comments [3/15/2017 10:06:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 125440

You can learn the golden rule growing up without any connection whatsoever to God or religion. It's simple enough in how it is taught - treat others the way you want to be treated. It works perfectly well, it's sound moral teaching, and doesn't require a God, so why keep trying to weld God to it? And you call ME hilarious?

Master Samwise:
"You can learn the golden rule growing up without any connection whatsoever to God or religion." Specifically the formulation from Judeo-Christian sources? Because no you can't.
In this entire discussion, I have not actually brought up God. In fact, in my first post, I SPECIFICALLY said that we could set God out on this one. Then I showed how pagan philosophers argued for an objective morality without the invocation of God. In this entire discussion, you seem to be trying to dishonestly move the conversation towards one where you can bash on God while I merely point out how you completely misunderstand or ignore your opponent's position. In fact, your posts are immensely helpful in proving that case. Prediction: you will latch onto the golden rule bit and ignore everything else I said.

You're the one being dishonest. I've had this discussion numerous times with people who seem to want to make the claim that you can't have morality without some kind of supernatural compass. It's nonsense. If you grew up without religion, you learn your morality from your parents, and it's good and decent morality because that's what your parents want you to learn.
You've said yourself above that you can't learn the golden rule without the formulation from Judeo-Christian sources. That's precisely the accusation that I've made, so HELLO, MR. STRAWMAN? Where are you? I've been pretty hilarious to you with my pathetic lack of understanding, apparently, why don't you tell me what I'm missing here?

Master Samwise:
"I've had this discussion numerous times with people who seem to want to make the claim that you can't have morality without some kind of supernatural compass." You are all over the map here buddy.
As you can plainly see, I set the God question aside WAAAAY earlier and focused on an objective moral order proved through reason. For the love of all that is good, do you see NOW?
"You've said yourself above that you can't learn the golden rule without the formulation from Judeo-Christian sources." Prediction confirmed.

Master Samwise, Disqus - Religion 4 Comments [3/16/2017 10:43:48 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 125413

What am I fighting for? As a part of POTUS Shield, I have to always ask: what is my part in this? I’m an Iranian. I’m an American, I’m Iranian, but my calling has come, a two-fold calling. I know that at this time and this season, God’s last major mission effort, the last major wall that has to come down before the return of the Lord, is the wall of Islam. It has to crumble. It has to come down. This is part of the whole process of the return. This is the one last false religion that is raising itself as a standard against God, and has to crumble. It has to be completely broken down, like the walls of Communism had to come down, walls of Islam have to come down. This cannot be done in isolation. Nations have to join forces. Churches have to join forces. We have to understand the times and seasons we’re in. Islam, Islam has to crumble…I decree that, the walls of Islam have to come down [slams gavel]. I decree that the walls of Islam have to come down [slam]. I decree that the walls of Islam, the false religion of Islam, have to come down [slam].

Mani Erfan, Right Wing Watch 6 Comments [3/15/2017 7:29:17 PM]
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