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Quote# 137310

(The subject in question is Vice-President Mike Pence and his crazy Dominioninst leanings)

One man crusade against women? Next he declared Jihad and blew himself up?

He perceives abortion as equal to the Holocaust in terms of evil; as do many Americans. You are shocked that he would take steps put restrictions on it? Again you didn't actually go into his beliefs or positions; you went into policy that you disagreed with him on and made a bunch of assumptions and leverage a whole bunch of hate.

Dominionist is a made up term by ignorant people who are fearmongering. There is no such thing. No more than there is a "War on Christmas". The term was coined in the 90's by rabid atheists who wanted to generate fear Christian influence in the government. I say that as someone who is agnostic and have no stance on religion.

"As a non-American"

And there it is. As a non-American your fears are irrelevant and pointless in this discussion as it is not your society or your people. Perhaps you should worry about your own people and government which is likely shitting all over your civil liberty and you are too busy "fearing" about a politican over seas with no real political power.

"he terrifies me just as much as Donald Trump does; the only difference is that no one knows what craziness is at work in Trump's mind, but we can predict - to a point - the craziness in Mike Pence's mind."

Your ignorance and bigoted positions should terrify you. Take the time to self reflect that you can't abide people who hold different political, philosophical, and moral positions than you. That speaks volumes about you; and little about the people you are screaming at. So before you start trying to even fix your own society; take the time to reflect inward. As trying to change the world around you before even having a solid foundation within is a sure way to cause diaster and conflict.

"Oh, and by the way, SANE people don't hear voices telling them what to do."

Sane people have a moral compass. Religious people feel that their spiritual figure be it Jesus, Mohamad, or God is helping guide that moral compass. Religious people spend their lives trying to live up to what their god perceives as good and just. Decent people don't go around telling people they are crazy because they hold religious beliefs. You could easily say "I disagree with the moral teachings of your religion, or at least parts of it" and work from there using critical thinking and rational arguments.

But instead let us just spew hate and project evil onto those people while making vast generalizations about them and their intentions. Don't be controlled by your emotions. The more decisions you make based on emotions the more likely you are being manipulated; and you are clearly being manipulated by specific political interests here.

avalatis, Deviantart 6 Comments [3/18/2018 12:41:29 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 137337

There are things as a muslim I will never accept in this case zina or homosexuality. I will not change my beliefs just to make the kuffar happy. In an islamic state these people will be killed.

Basil_1, Ummah 12 Comments [3/18/2018 12:41:31 PM]
Fundie Index: 10
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 137314

Dead Works Are Man's Works

Cain tried to impress God with the work of his hands. Cain worked hard tilling his fields day and night, irrigating and weeding daily. Cain grew some nice crops, a bumper harvest no doubt, and brought the best of the best to offer to God. The Lord instantly rejected Cain's DEAD WORKS!!! They were “dead” because they were based in human effort, and not upon God's redemptive plan for mankind. Isaiah 64:6 warns that all of man's self-righteousness is as “filthy rags” in God's sight. Man's very best is offensive to our holy God. This is a difficult truth for many people to grasp. You could spend your entire adult life helping, building and sacrificially giving to operate orphanages for poor, starving and naked little children, and yet, go straight to Hell to burn in the torments of God's wrath for ever and ever in your sins. No amount of good deeds can counter the evil deeds (Ecclesiastes 12:14), manipulative ungodly thoughts (Proverbs 24:12) and idle words (Matthew 12:36), for which all men must give account at the Judgment Seat of God.

Ungodly Playboy singer and actor, Frank Sinatra (one of the shady “Rat Pack”), donated $100,000,000 of his amassed fortune upon his death to help suffering children in orphanages. That was a nice gesture, but not one penny of Sinatra's philanthropy can buy him out of the Lake of Fire. Sinatra was a lifelong shallow Catholic, trusting in the sacraments of a Mary-worshipping cult to save him. Sinatra was an outspoken critic against organized religion, but he never professed any faith in Jesus Christ either. By all indications Sinatra died in his sins without having ever personally received Jesus Christ as His Savior. So sad! So tragic!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 10 Comments [3/18/2018 12:42:25 AM]
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Quote# 38527

First of all, my son works in customer service and I hear all the time how it is the customers who are rude, not the staff. So I guess it goes both ways. I work in a place where arrogance knows no bounds. Homosexuality is run amok, and the f-word is literally in every other sentence spoken. Good is called evil and evil is called good. Hard work gains no rewards. If you e-mail pornography and talk about sports all day you are part of the in crowd. If you try to be a Christian example you and God are mocked. Oh yes, I am most definitely very ready to go home. It’s a dangerous, evil world out there and I too find myself staying away as much as possible by only going out when absolutely necessary. A sad thing I know, but I am so weary of it all. I follow world events from the side lines and am patiently waiting for the sound of the trumpet and the call to “Come up here.”

Daniel, RaptureReady 6 Comments [4/30/2008 9:45:09 PM]
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Quote# 38551

But if it [evolution] IS real, then...
*There's no distinction between man and animals, so there's no right and wrong
*There's no purpose in life, since evolution is undirected
*People have no souls, and so you can't go to an afterlife
*There is no God who could have made things, because evolution says things developed by themselves

Do you see some startling problems with following the trail of ideas?

BlueberryMuffan, deviantART 19 Comments [4/30/2008 9:34:55 PM]
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Quote# 137345

I cannot know for sure if it will collapse on that date or even this year.; I have this information from a lawyer who was pretty sure of what he was telling our mutual friend. I'm ass-uming that it might happen on the 14th of May, as that would be a pretty opportune time to take the shine off Israel's special day of celebration, would it not?

It could happen sooner, but I hope not! Either way, it will put us all out of business, and watch out for the microchip implant/mark of the beast. We won't need to worry about investments or getting our money out of the bank, as it will be as valuable as it was in Hitler's day....they burned their cash by the wheelbarrow loads for heat. When the dollar does collapse, it will be a reset, such as the world has never seen before! It will be what the NWO has been working hard to bring about for over two hundred years! Here are some current links you might want to peruse on the immediate topic:

China Just Launched this Attack on the USD
Trump Just Launched this Massive Opportunity for Silver
Unsuspecting Americans to be Hit Hard by this U.S. Scheme to Confiscate Your Savings
[URGENT POLL] Do You Trust Big Government to Manage Your Savings?

Skywatcher57, Now The End Begins 5 Comments [3/19/2018 5:16:13 AM]
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Quote# 38521

KINSHASA, April 22 - Police in Congo have arrested 13 suspected sorcerers accused of using black magic to steal or shrink men's penises after a wave of panic and attempted lynchings triggered by the alleged witchcraft.

Reports of so-called penis snatching are not uncommon in West Africa, where belief in traditional religions and witchcraft remains widespread, and where ritual killings to obtain blood or body parts still occur.

Rumours of penis theft began circulating last week in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo's sprawling capital of some 8 million inhabitants. They quickly dominated radio call-in shows, with listeners advised to beware of fellow passengers in communal taxis wearing gold rings.

People who believe in witchcraft, Reuters 6 Comments [4/30/2008 9:00:01 PM]
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Submitted By: Dave

Quote# 38545

Nevertheless, the theory of evolution proves how bizarre, far-fetched and ridiculous one has to be to deny God. Let's forget for a moment the obvious fact that apes can no more breed human descendants than humans can breed zebras as descendants. All anyone has to understand is the simple birds and bees to know why. But for those who don't, let's engage in fantasy and see what had to have happened for this impossible, crazy theory to have taken place;

1) Each ape had to find another creature which with to breed to create offspring that looks more like a human than an ape. The odds of that are incalculable.
2) Then these exact same offspring had to migrate all over the world because according to science fiction writers, homo-sapiens also existed in North America
3) The next step in this impossible chain is that each homo sapiens in North America had to find a mate identical to the mates of other homo-sapiens in Africa to breed descendants who could speak! That make the odds even more incalculable since no two animals and humans look and act alike. So the exact same so-called "mutations" had to have happened in thousands of homosapiens which makes the odds unfathomable as to be impossible.
4) There are no accounts by any ancient cultures of any of these creatures ever existing yet they are supposed to be our ancestors. :o
5) The so-called common ancestor from which these creatures supposedly came is still as imaginary as the minds who invented them. That makes the common ancestor as imaginary as the Flying spaghetti monster.

Heidi, 123 Christian Forums 13 Comments [4/30/2008 9:45:01 PM]
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Submitted By: jmm9683

Quote# 137322

The Bible proves itself but Simon thinks that is circular reasoning. I'm done posting to him for that reason.

Maryjj, ravingatheists 12 Comments [3/18/2018 12:49:39 AM]
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Quote# 38580

(from his interview on Craig Ferguson's show)

STEIN: We want to say that Darwinism doesn't explain the laws of gravity, Darwinism doesn't explain the laws of thermodynamics, Darwinism doesn't explain why some joints are better than some of the other joints [...] We don't want people to be fired if they say that the planets stay in their orbits maybe by something other than Darwinism. And we don't think Darwin, we don't think Darwin explained how the planets stay in their orbits.

FERGUSON: To be fair, I don't think Darwin claimed to know that.

STEIN: That's exactly right! [...] He didn't claim it explained too much, but his followers claim it explains everything, including astronomy, and we say that's very hard to prove.

Ben Stein, YouTube 46 Comments [4/30/2008 9:45:27 PM]
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Quote# 38507

Rock music also does physical damage to you. Its beat goes against the natural rhythm of your heart when you listen to it. Your heart then gets confused and may stop beating. This can lead to heart attacks or strokes.

Scripture 4 U, Own Blog 58 Comments [4/30/2008 9:46:31 PM]
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Submitted By: Bartlettman

Quote# 137328

Comments RE: Feminists join men-only swim in protest of proposed law to enable people to self-identify as male or female

The trans movement rides on the back of the gay rights movement, appearing to be progressive whilst actually being totally regressive - it is misogynistic and homophobic to say that if you have feminine traits then you must be a woman, and vice Verda

It is especially funny to watch the row in the Labour Party about this as ex-men invade women's only short lists.

(Monica Vieira)
Yes, it's so funny isn't it. I hope women see how much fun men are having with all of this. This will radicalize a lot of feminists and in the end women will have the last laugh.

So you're a misandrist. At least admit it rather than hiding behind feminism. Got dumped did you?

Sunday Politics was a joy. Watching Labour representatives try to pretend when Milne and Corbyn tried to pretend Russia were not to blame for the attack in Salisbury they were really saying Russia was to blame.

Then, that women's short lists could contain those who self identified but was a problem. Then one of the panelists gave the helpful suggestion that one solution would be to get rid of the women's own list and choose based on merit.

(Monica Vieira)
If the choice was based on merit, males wouldn't be the majority of representatives, dear.

"one of the panelists gave the helpful suggestion that one solution would be to get rid of the women's own list"

Yes, the end goal of all of this is to destroy everything that women have fought for, like women's shortlists that only exist because of the historical discrimination against women in politics (and society in general).

Good luck with that.

we are getting to the point of the circle where feminists are realizing they are different to men. and need different treatment and protection... eventually theyll be demanding to stay at home doing embroidery. ... not that i am saying that would be better.... but they will never be satisfied.

Feminism and identity politics are disappearing up their own ridiculous rear ends.

Hilarious to observe.

Love the way this is all men’s fault. The feminist lobby has pushed for “transgender” rights past the point of logic and to the point of absurdity. Now the predictable results are happening they don’t like the results. Lucky it isn’t getting gender equality in conscription laws just prior to a major war where the government wants cannon fodder.

Have these Self identification nutters ever heard of Perverts?

Those that believe in science understand that, apart from cases of genital ambiguity, a very rare condition, most cases of 'trans' are just wish-fulfillment.

(mark anthony)
I totally agree with them but I was not under the impression that it was men driving the law forward . It is transsexuals who want to claim what they see as their rightful pace in society who are demanding a law change and in this day of political correctness who is to deny them

Strange that they view the law from a purely female point. is that not sexist?

(Monica Vieira)
Men only see things from a male point. Are you complaining about equality? :)

Men are having fun watching women's sports being destroyed by males who claim to be women and females on testosterone who claim to be men but are not allowed to play against men (yes, this is happening too).

Men don't care about anything unless it affects them. What I really want is to see feminists doing stunts that actually harm men.

So if you think that women standing up for themselves is sexist, GREAT. Get used to it.

various commenters, The Independent 6 Comments [3/18/2018 11:03:11 AM]
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Quote# 137312

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Studies show: Sexual orientation top risk for suicidal thoughts in college freshmen (non-Christians)"

From Fox News:
Nearly one third of first-year college students have thought about suicide, according to a study across eight countries, and non-heterosexual identity or feelings were the biggest risks for this kind of thinking or behavior.

Having a religion other than Christianity, being female, having unmarried parents or at least one deceased parent and being age 20 or older were also important risk factors, though being a sexual minority also carried the highest risk of transitioning from suicidal thoughts to plans to attempts, the researchers found.

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified. Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

Lady Checkmate:
Seek Jesus Christ, find Truth, choose life and live.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 7 Comments [3/18/2018 12:41:36 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 38567

Evolutionists claim creationism is not science because it is based on revelation. But if Genesis 1:1 is revelation, then there is a God and He did create all things. On the other hand, atheists say there is no God. Therefore, Genesis 1:1 is a conclusion based on human observation and is a legitimate scientific theory. Genesis 1:1 is scientific or it really is revelation. Either way evolution loses on both accounts

won4christ, Godtube 11 Comments [4/30/2008 10:24:06 PM]
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Quote# 137304

Cardi B Wells, Twitter 22 Comments [3/16/2018 3:24:37 PM]
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Quote# 35721

Another objection we will encounter from proponents of the first amendment is, they will say "Even though the first amendment allows for a heterogeneous society, it also allow those who want to worship the true God to do so. You are not being prevented from practicing your religion and expressing the same."

But those who would make such an assertion do not really understand what it means to honor, worship and obey the true God under a heathen government and in a heterogeneous society. True worship and obedience to God puts saints in direct conflict with a heathen government and with all of the idolatrous religions and ideologies. The principles of democracy and manmade beliefs are the direct antithesis to the principles of the kingdom of God. If there are certain righteous practices of the saint which the heathen government thinks should not be practiced, the government is going to seek to prevent those practices by seeking to bring the saints into obedience to the heathen laws of democracy. Therefore, because the saint lives in a heathen and heterogeneous society, he is going to suffer as a result of his worship and obedience to God.

Robert T. Lee, Society for the Practical Establishment and Perpetuation of the Ten Commandments 63 Comments [3/3/2008 11:05:16 PM]
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Submitted By: Skyknight

Quote# 35666

(If your god exists, his "love" would be on the same level as an abusive parent who beats his wife or his children because of alcohol, and then says "See what you made me do?! Why didn't you just love me?!")

Let's look at where ALL of our problems began.Genesis 3. Man and his wife have chosen to rebel against His will, and God says Ok, I'll give you and the rest of your kind the choice, eithercontinue to do what you want and accept the consequences or follow me.

Guess which choice man has ultimately made? They certainly don't choose God, and to say Jesus in front of an atheist might as well be a four etter word!

We will continue to reap this JUST fruit until we turn to Him!

johnlewisbrooks, YouTube 36 Comments [3/2/2008 1:07:58 PM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 35652

God couldn't have killed off the dinosaurs - or anything else for that matter - before Adam. Scripture says death came thru Adam's sin. Therefore, no plants, no animals, no nothing died prior to Adam's disobedience. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. The dinosaurs weren't carnivorus. They grazed just like all the other animals. Remember, there was no sin. Scripture says death is the wages of sin. Have to stick with the Word and not fables or carnal suppositions.

onli-one-jehovi, Godplace.com 73 Comments [3/1/2008 2:56:09 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 35674

As I have said on many occasions, and even preached on a few occasions: I don't "believe" in God. I know him. And trust me, that distinction makes all the difference in the world. No person, and no argument - no matter how "rational" it may seem - will ever convince me that God doesn't exist. I mean, you might as well try and convince me that my wife doesn't exist! Of course she does! I don't "believe" that my wife exists. I know her! And likewise I don't "believe" that God exists. I know him!

A real, honest-to-goodness, intimate "relationship" with God is the one, sure-fire, guaranteed, stone-cold-lock way of making atheism seem like the absolute silliest thing you've ever heard.

And please forgive me, because I am not trying to put down the other JD, or anything they've posted. I guess I've just always marveled at how anyone who has truly "known" God can ever get to a point where they so much as even just consider atheism as anything even remotely approaching a possible, or viable idea. It would be like my suddenly - and seriously, no less - considering as even a possibility the idea that Katie (my wife) not only doesn't exist now, but has NEVER actually existed at all! I mean, I was just with her last night. Of course she exists!

jdcord, Godplace.com 66 Comments [3/2/2008 5:33:46 PM]
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Quote# 35688

Religion? No, lets make this quite clear: Not all religions are equal. Christianity should play a large role in modern society, as God intended, for it is the Truth. But the abomination of Islam should be wiped out, destroyed by force if nessicessary - both for its constantly earthly attrocities and oppressions, and for leading people from Christ and thus damning them eternally. To speak of 'religion' lumps all religions together. Christianity is good, everything else is bad, and any christian who doesn't realise this just hasn't yet realised that by the fundamental tennants of Christianity they are allowing people to literially go to hell in the name of freedom.

BornAgainBrit, Conservapedia 72 Comments [3/2/2008 10:37:41 PM]
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Quote# 137317

Stephen Hawking was regarded by his peers as the smartest scientist since Albert Einstein, his book entitled A Brief History Of Time sold over 10 million copies. But Stephen Hawking and his celebrated intellect was unable to grasp one simple truth that my kids all had a hold of before the age of 10. That everyone of us are sinners who need a Saviour, and that Jesus Christ is the promised Messiah of Israel who paid our sin debt on the cross 2,000 years ago. Ironically, in the same words where he steadfastly denied the very existence of the God of the Bible, he said he was ‘grateful for the grand design’ of the universe. Hmm….any first year art student will tell you that without a Designer there can be no design. Hawking at this very moment is hyper-aware of the reality that God does exist, that Jesus Christ is the only way, and that Heaven is real. But sadly, that information does him no good now. He died in his sins with no one to pay for them but himself. Want to be smarter than the smartest man in the world? Ask Jesus to save you on the basis of His death, burial and resurrection, and when you die, instead of burning in a fiery Hell reserved for the Devil, his angels and the unsaved, you’ll be in Heaven with Jesus. Heaven or Hell? You don’t need a college education to see which one of the those two things is better.

Geoffrey Grider, Now The End Begins 14 Comments [3/18/2018 12:42:48 AM]
Fundie Index: 8

Quote# 86239

And if the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does. It all comes from, I would argue, this right to privacy that doesn't exist in my opinion in the United States Constitution, this right that was created, it was created in Griswold — Griswold was the contraceptive case — and abortion. And now we're just extending it out. And the further you extend it out, the more you — this freedom actually intervenes and affects the family. You say, well, it's my individual freedom. Yes, but it destroys the basic unit of our society because it condones behavior that's antithetical to strong healthy families. Whether it's polygamy, whether it's adultery, where it's sodomy, all of those things, are antithetical to a healthy, stable, traditional family.

Every society in the history of man has upheld the institution of marriage as a bond between a man and a woman. Why? Because society is based on one thing: that society is based on the future of the society. And that's what? Children. Monogamous relationships. In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing.

Rick Santorum, USATODAY.com 112 Comments [2/28/2012 4:24:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Rabbit of Caerbannog

Quote# 35706

[On being given a link saying Hovind is wrong]

I don't beleive they were killed off before Adam! And the site you posted was not a Christian based review. In it the author said "Hovind has just used his conclusion of the Bible being literally correct as the foundation for his use of evidence from the Bible. Circular reasoning is called a logical fallacy for a good reason."

Well of course the bible is literaly correct, we shouldn't have to argue that point.

InChristGirl, GodPlace.com 39 Comments [3/3/2008 3:49:09 PM]
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Submitted By: antichrist

Quote# 35704

Oddly enough, it seems that most of the major scientists who believe come to a belief in God through their occupation. It seems once a person gets past a sophomoric level and begins specialization, everything they learn points to the existence of a single mind.

Tsalagi, GodPlace.com 52 Comments [3/3/2008 7:48:48 PM]
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Submitted By: antichrist

Quote# 137240

We need to bring the good ole King James Bible back into our nation's schools. No parent ought to ever enroll their precious child into a hellhole public school, which are satanic indoctrination camps. A corrupt tree can only bring forth corrupt fruit. Our nation's public schools are corrupt. The wicked atheists and fools who don't like it, should put their kids into a private atheist school.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 27 Comments [3/14/2018 11:00:30 AM]
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