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Quote# 87047

This, by the way, is the secret of capitalism. The secret of capitalism is Mark 10:45. Jesus said "the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life for ransom".

The only way that you can succeed in capitalism is by serving people. If you don't identify some need that they have, and find some effective way to satisfy that need, you ain't going anywhere in capitalism.

That's the beauty of capitalism, it is built on the teaching of Jesus himself. The son of man did not come to be served, but to serve. That's where we get that whole idea of the customer is always right, and customer-oriented, and client oriented service. All that comes from Mark 10:45.

Bryan Fischer, Right Wing Watch 71 Comments [4/23/2012 2:50:43 AM]
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Submitted By: emau99

Quote# 87044

[A Muslim group in Germany is distributing free copies of the Koran. Their goal is "a Koran in every house".]

A spokesperson for the Berlin branch of the BfV [the German intelligence agency] told Die Welt that "the objective of this campaign is to help bring those who are interested into contact with the Salafist scene in order to influence them in the context of their extremist political ideologies."

Although not everyone who takes a Koran into their home will convert to Islam, German authorities say Abou-Nagie's Project "Read!" is a establishing a breeding ground for anti-constitutional ideas[...]

The head of the German Police Union (DPolG), Rainer Wendt, has told the Hamburg-based Bild newspaper that he is concerned about the presence of clandestine Islamic sleeper cells made up of Muslim immigrants and converts in Germany. He has called for the recruitment of undercover agents to infiltrate the Islamic environment. It is the "only way to monitor the scene," Wendt said.

"Radical Islamists live everywhere and nowhere in Germany. One cannot rule out that that nice young man from next door, who brings grandma her fresh bread every morning, is not in fact an Islamic sleeper and terrorist," Wendt warned.

Rainer Wendt, Free Republic 52 Comments [4/23/2012 2:43:33 AM]
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Quote# 87037

An attempt to whip up anti-Islamic sentiment by the leader of the English Defence League has spectacularly backfired on Twitter on Monday.

On Sunday night, EDL leader Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, also known as Tommy Robinson, tweeted a complaint about a picture of a "mosque" on the Twitter front page (it was actually the Taj Mahal), highlighting the image as another example of #creepingsharia.

However, rather than stoke far-right feeling, the Luton-based activist unintentionally started a comedy twitter trend.

Amid traffic about the start of Anders Breivik’s trial in Oslo, the Twitterati hijacked the tag, with #creepingsharia being blamed for everything from “algebra on the curriculum” to “no ham left in the fridge”.

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, Huffington Post 39 Comments [4/23/2012 2:40:06 AM]
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Quote# 87034

OSLO, Norway — With a defiant closed-fist salute, a right-wing fanatic admitted Monday to a bomb-and-shooting massacre that killed 77 people in Norway but pleaded not guilty to criminal charges, saying he was acting in self-defense.

On the first day of his long-awaited trial, Anders Behring Breivik rejected the authority of the court as it sought to assign responsibility for the July 22 attacks that shocked Norway and jolted the image of terrorism in Europe.

Dressed in a dark suit and sporting a thin beard, Breivik smiled as a guard removed his handcuffs in the crowded court room. The 33-year-old then flashed his salute before shaking hands with prosecutors and court officials.

"I don't recognize Norwegian courts because you get your mandate from the Norwegian political parties who support multiculturalism," Breivik said in his first comments to the court.

Eight people were killed in Breivik's July 22 bombing of Oslo's government district and 69 others were slain in his shooting massacre at the left-leaning Labor Party's youth camp on Utoya island outside the capital. Breivik has said the attacks were necessary to protect Norway from being taken over by Muslims.

"I admit to the acts, but not criminal guilt," he told the court, insisting he had acted in self-defense.

The key issue to be resolved during the 10-week trial is the state of Breivik's mental health, which will decide whether he is sent to prison or into psychiatric care. Anxious to prove he is not insane, Brevik will call right-wing extremists and radical Islamists to testify during the trial, to show that others also share his view of clashing civilizations.

Norway's NRK television was broadcasting parts of the trial live but was not allowed to show Breivik's testimony.

Anders Behring Breivik, Huffington Post 37 Comments [4/23/2012 2:37:19 AM]
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Submitted By: Brendan Rizzo

Quote# 87032

[Discussing the banning of 'post-gay' ads that were planned to be run on London public transport]

Christians are used to being in competition with antichrist-communities that hate them.

Christians competed with and conquered the Roman Empire, that was run, amongst others, by the bi-sexual antichrists Nero, Commodus and Elagabalus.

charlesby, The Independent 47 Comments [4/22/2012 9:59:46 AM]
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Quote# 87027

Is it not apparent that the Bible Scriptures advocate discrimination, intolerance and the DEATH PENALTY concerning homosexuality? Then is not the Title of this writing true? If the very title made you angry, then this author must ask you the same question the Apostle Paul once asked: "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" Galatians 4:16 (KJV).

For those who hate the truth, anyone who proclaims it they will also hate and will consider such a one an enemy. They will accuse their enemy of HATE and INTOLERANCE when in fact, it is they who hate and cannot tolerate the truth. For such people no amount of reason, patience or love will make the truth palatable to them unless they first repent.

There are others who may not hate truth but are so far removed or confused concerning it, that when it's heard, it sounds RADICAL and EXTREME. Many in America's Judeo-Christian church world fall in this category. Because such people have been taught that being a radical or extremist is evil, they tend to reject any truth that, to them and their surroundings, seems radical or extreme.

Once this author spoke to a political science class at a University and was billed as a right wing extremist. So the question was asked of the students, "How many Christians are there in the audience?" About half the hands went up. Next it was asked, "How many radicals, extremists or intolerant people are in the audience?" and not one hand was raised. What a contradiction.

All the people who claimed to be followers of Jesus Christ also claimed not to be what He was. Frankly, He was willing to withstand public scorn and ridicule for truth (Matthew 27:40,41), offend people if necessary (Matthew 15:12) and even die for what He believed in. As for tolerance, he would not tolerate such people as the money changers and actually confronted them physically. (John 2:14,15) Obviously, He was a radical and an extremist to the virtuous, so-called Christian in the Jude-Christian churches, it all seems to unchristian.

The truth of the matter is, in one respect, homosexuals are far more virtuous than are the lukewarm, cowardly, goody two shoes, praise the Lord Judeo-Christians. Homosexuals are willing to:

* Promote their life style
* Endorse public scorn and rejection if necessary
* Rally to the aid of another homosexual
* Fight any who oppose their life style and
* As we shall see in this writing, are willing to prescribe the death penalty to those who oppose them.

Unlike the modern day, lukewarm Judeo-Christian, they are radicals and extremists. To Jesus they are far more acceptable than the lukewarm Judeo-Christian. "I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot; I would that you were cold or hot. So because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of My mouth." Revelation 3:15,16 (NASV)

This writing will be opposed as much by those who call themselves Christians as by homosexuals. They will try to reason or explain away these Bible verses that discriminate against and prescribe the death penalty for homosexuals. So in this writing, their futile objections and explanations will be answered.

Pastor Peter J. Peters, LaPorte Church of Christ 50 Comments [4/22/2012 9:15:47 AM]
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Quote# 87013

In the submission, Lord Carey said the outward expression of traditional conservative Christian values has effectively been "banned" under a new "secular conformity of belief and conduct".

The former archbishop argued that in "case after case" British courts have failed to protect Christian values and urged European judges to correct the balance.

He said there was a "drive to remove Judeo-Christian values from the public square" and argued UK courts have "consistently applied equality law to discriminate against Christians" as they show a "crude" misunderstanding of the faith by treating some worshippers as "bigots".

In his submission, Lord Carey, who was archbishop from 1991 to 2002, wrote: "In a country where Christians can be sacked for manifesting their faith, are vilified by state bodies, are in fear of reprisal or even arrest for expressing their views on sexual ethics, something is very wrong.

"It affects the moral and ethical compass of the United Kingdom. Christians are excluded from many sectors of employment simply because of their beliefs; beliefs which are not contrary to the public good."

He added: "It is now Christians who are persecuted; often sought out and framed by homosexual activists.

Lord Carey, Huffington Post 50 Comments [4/22/2012 3:08:28 AM]
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Submitted By: Limey

Quote# 87012

Women are capable of love but there’s a reason St. Paul tells wives to “fear” their husbands. Because women are just much more like children in their moral reasoning and in their emotional “resilience” (or capacity for cruelty). So for a woman to love a husband is much like a child’s love for his parents. It is a love that is requires her to be in a dependent position. This is why marriage in a feminist society of independent and irreligious (I don’t mean women without superstition, but women without fear of moral judgment) women, cannot work.

Joe, The Spearhead 44 Comments [4/22/2012 3:07:40 AM]
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Quote# 87009

[Article about Brazil allowing abortions for fetuses lacking brains]

On Wednesday, protesters from several religious orders came to the court to pray, surrounded by images of fetuses and the patron saint of Brazil.

“The anencephalics are living human beings... Society, through its institutions, should foster full respect for their human dignity and their fragile and short lives,” wrote Cardinal Odilo Scherer in an editorial condemning abortion that was published in the media.

Cardinal Odilo Scherer, New Straits Times 119 Comments [4/21/2012 7:53:09 AM]
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Submitted By: TheReasonator

Quote# 87006

(responding to being called out on anti-gay statements)

I aint upset about what anybody said. I know in whom I have believed! What I don't like is the monitors bias on what they choose to delete. All I ask is that they level the field. Cant shut me up after someone throw a punch at me! That, is the type of injustice blacks have faced through out Americas history. Now it has turned on Christians! It will only get worse as this wicked world comes to a close. btw: you will never be a Christian because you dont want to obey and follow the truth!

deegeescross2, Huffington Post 54 Comments [4/21/2012 7:30:06 AM]
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Quote# 87004

A conservative attorney disagrees with the findings of "Private Lives 2," a study of Australian homosexuals that suggests discrimination, not lifestyle, is the reason why homosexuals seek psychological counseling -- a conclusion similar to that reached by the American Psychological Association.

The online study was conducted by Malbourne's La Trobe University with the support of Gay and Lesbian Health Victoria, as well as the Victoria state government and the Australian national depression initiative. But Matt Barber, vice president of Liberty Counsel Action, tells OneNewsNow other research has repeatedly concluded that it is the lifestyle -- not discrimination or lack of societal "acceptance" -- that results in homosexuals seeking counseling.

He believes groups like the APA have lost credibility over the years by suggesting otherwise.

"The APA has really in large part simply become a political activist organization," Barber decides. "They are no longer objectively a scientific group that views things through an objective prism; but rather, they are pushing a political, sexual, anarchist agenda."

He says the APA is helping "to facilitate" those caught up in the lifestyle to continue a destructive, unhealthy, immoral and biologically wrong way of living and thinking. "So for the APA to help them rationalize these behaviors, it's really irresponsible of the American Psychological Association to do this," the attorney submits.

Matt Barber, Holy Bullies and Headless Monsters 53 Comments [4/20/2012 3:32:36 AM]
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Quote# 87003

Gay people are growing. Not because they now have the freedom to assume themselves as gay but because of other aspects. We've actually reverted what is the basis of democracy: we've turned the minorities more powerful than the majorities. You see, all the politicians want, is to have votes. Thus, they give freedom of speech and freedom of sex. But what are the repercussions to the society?

Not to begin with the whole religious part of it and to mention all that has been said, it definitely corrupts the society. Usually, gay couples that adopt a child will almost force their adopted child to be gay as well. So, where is the freedom of choice here? A child is constantly given the opportunity to experience something that corrupts their mind with thoughts that most of the times are not real. Gay people say that we are all gay, it's just the society that has been telling us that is wrong. And to prove this, they use Freud's method (which btw, has been considered to not be valid for most of the psychological problems...). Where is ethics here? They are disturbing a person's mind.

Now look at this in a more small world. Imagine two best friends. Doesn't matter their sex. One thinks that he's having feelings for the other. As all of you must've experienced, when a person starts to like the other (in opposite sex) it always gives either the wrong way or they end up dating. Now, as the other one is not gay, what will happen is an obsession to turn the other one gay because gay people cannot accept the fact that others are not gay (AND if you actually analyse their attitude, gay people turn out to be the most aggressive despite the fact that they seem to be fragile at a first glance). For gay people, there is no such thing as friendship. Friendship is just a beginning to a relationship. This is another reason to a problem they have: Gay people cannot maintain a relationship stable because they are not capable of being with the same person forever (which does not happen in real marriage - if the marriage is properly held and husband and wife are committed). No matter what happens, they will not stay together if another gay comes. Gay people tend to have (and sorry for using the word) orgies. Hence, I ask, where is the concept of matrimony?? There is no such thing for them.

U Mirin' Braahhhh?, IB Survival 63 Comments [4/20/2012 3:31:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 86996

Has anyone ever seen an actual demon?

I have. No joke. Im certain probably all the born again Christians have as well. In the book of Ephesians it reads our battle is not with flesh but these evil spiritual powers. Born again Christians are their biggest targets because they are saved by the blood of the Lamb of God and know the truth and have authority over them. They are the only ones that can do damage to Satans Kingdom.

Im also certain if mess with the occult you probably them because you have opened up doors to them.

What do they look like? They are of the blackest black and darker than the darkest dark. They are like 3 dimensional shadow figures. I have seen them peaking around my door way which I initially thought was strange but it makes sense that they do things in secret and in the dark lest they expose themselves. They also have the most evil emanating from them that no words can describe the evilness. They are pure hate and darkness.

I noticed that singing worship music to my King and Lord Jesus Christ really repels them. They really hate it when praise goes to God.

Now the prideful person laughs that Satan and his minions actually exist. Guess what? Satan and his minions are laughing back right at you. To them that person is just another blind soul that will end up in hell.

But as much as Satan hates your guts Jesus Christ loves you more. Go to Him if you want everlasting life and life more abundantly.

CrytothePrinceofPeace, IMDB Religion Boards 60 Comments [4/20/2012 3:30:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Dr. Flibble

Quote# 86995

The "hoofprints" of Satan were all over Wicca, and they were literally on me! As a High Priest, I did one ceremony invoking my "higher self" or Holy Guardian Angel. The being who man-ifested caused a candle in the temple to erupt violently. A little ball of fire or hot wax (I’ll never know for sure which) shot across the room and hit me in the forearm, leaving a searing brand in the precise shape of a cloven hoof. By that time, I saw it as a great blessing!

William Schnoebelen, Chick Publications 44 Comments [4/20/2012 3:30:33 AM]
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Important Note!

We don't actually believe in a doomsday either.

Quote# 86992

They [atheists] do not believe that God or the Supreme Being is going to save you from Doomsday. What they believe instead is that you are going to face obliteration when the end of the world approaches. The reason why the Atheists are obsessed with the end of the world is that it will question the very existence of God.

Even if there is a God, is He that cruel so as to watch the entire human race being wiped from the surface of the Earth? Those having faith in God tell that God is merciful and forgives even the sinners if they ask for forgiveness. If God is that merciful will he attempt to rescue the humans from their awful fate? That is where the Atheists belief is getting stronger. It has been reported that dinosaurs that once roamed the surface of the Earth were destroyed once and for all when some asteroid came down crashing on Earth’s surface some millions of years ago. At that time there was no one to save Earth from such a collision. This means even if such cataclysmic events take place in 2012 there will be no one to save mankind from destruction.

These ideas focus on the one theory of the atheists and i.e. the non existence of God. Here lies the victory for the atheists. Clearly they have the upper hand when it comes to questioning whether God is present. Instead of seeing the Heavenly interventions the atheists choose to look at the scientific researches, geological findings and other studies being conducted on the Earth’s environment that may suggest the destruction of this planet.

This means if there is an end of the world in 2012 itself it will be the Atheists who would rather enjoy it, proclaiming that there was and is no God. That is why the atheists have a strong opinion and believe in the end of the world.

admin, December 2012 The End of the World 40 Comments [4/20/2012 3:28:22 AM]
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Quote# 86985

There is a Satanic Game being played now on the Internet called, "World of Warcraft". It is a Role Playing Game (Dungeons and Dragons on steroids!). It is so captivating and bewitching that Children and Teenagers are getting hooked. When this game is played, it will attach unclean spirits to you. The "game" is filled with Druids, Wizards, Dragons, sorcery, magic, etc

Any Parent, Pastor, or Teenager needs to immediately rid yourself of this game, and start praying over your Child and Teenager for God to remove the familiar spirits.



There are four Sodomite looking men who make up the Wiggles Group. This is a music group who is pattering their show to the "Monkeys" of the 1970s.

First of all, there is Rock n Roll Music in this show. Then they encourage children to gyrate their bodies like Harlots and effeminent sissies. Don't forget the symbol of the Rainbow (their clothing) which is used as a symbol of Lesbians now. How about Captain Feather Sword?? Is he a swashbuckler?? Well, parents, check out how he holds and runs with this "feather" sword. A swashbuckler would run with it either clutched to his chest or extended over his head to do battle. Not this pervert! He has a different insinuation in mind.

Parents, I strongly would encourage you to prayerfully consider how deceptive Satan is.

Remember, "IF THE WORLD IS HOT, GOD IS NOT!" If the world is making something popular, God is no where near it! AMEN, AMEN, AMEN

Steven Blankenship, Truth4Teens 61 Comments [4/20/2012 3:22:46 AM]
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Submitted By: Yakob

Quote# 86984

[From "The Truth about Harry Potter!!"]

It's just fantasy; witchcraft isn't real.

Wiccan (witchcraft) is a legally recognized religion by the IRS and the US military. (Yes, the schools and libraries are pushing a religion by promoting Potter!) A local Wiccan has said that the practices shown are consistent with real witchcraft. In an abcNews.com interview, a practicing witch said the Potter books would help "change the way people feel about [witches]." Witches themselves say there is indeed power in witchcraft - and God agrees with them! The power isn't in being able to have chairs fly across the room - the power is in what it does to your soul. The question is, what is the source of that power? God says Satan is the true source of that power. Your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour - 1 Peter 5:8

Steven Blankenship, Truth4Teens 38 Comments [4/20/2012 3:21:52 AM]
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Submitted By: Yakob

Quote# 86976

My argument all along has been that the purpose of the First Amendment is to protect the free exercise of the Christian religion.

One evidence that [the Founding Fathers] were not dealing ... they weren't even intending to deal with non-Christian religions is what they did with Mormonism in the latter part of the nineteenth century. Mormonism - they call themselves by the name of Christ, but it is not an orthodox Christian network of churches, it just is not. Mormonism is not an orthodox Christian faith. It just is not. They have a different Gospel, they have a completely different definition of who Christ is and so forth, I mean, the list could be multiplied endlessly.

And it was very clear that the Founding Fathers did not intend to preserve automatically religious liberty for non-Christian faiths, so when Mormonism came along, they practiced polygamy, they believed in polygamy, just like Muslims do today.

Bryan Fischer, Right Wing Watch 33 Comments [4/20/2012 3:19:47 AM]
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Submitted By: Zagen30

Quote# 86975

Homophobia is a mean, hateful term, intended to put anyone with traditional values on the defensive, as if objecting to homosexuality is a phobia, it’s not! It reflects common sense, good judgment, sound health and strong morality.

Linda Harvey, Right Wing Watch 49 Comments [4/20/2012 3:19:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Zagen30

Quote# 86967

The Lack of an Ancient Evolution story proves evolution isn’t true

There are creation stories, flood stories, miracle stories and God stories that go way back in time, and passed down by oral tradition and then to ancient writings, however there is no evolution story. If evolution were true we should have at least some evolution stories passed down through the generations through oral tradition that our ancestors came from the trees and from an ape like creature.

God Bless


I aint no monkey, Theology Online 39 Comments [4/20/2012 3:17:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Persephone 66

Quote# 86959

Time is up for the 'fun-n-games' of non-scientific evolution, which includes the following;

*Old earth 'Plate Tectonics' or the whimsical idea of 'coasting-colliding' continents and the 'breakup of Pangea' all rooted in science and taught as "fact". Plate Tectonics is a pseudo-scientific fraud used as an 'excuse' to vainly try and prove an 'old earth'. This theory will be completely debunked with true science backed by the Scriptures. Earth is a geological mess and the foundations are out of place big-time (Ps. 18:15, 82:5) due to a massive series of titanic volcanic eruptions, or fountains of the great deep.

**"Dinosaurs died 65 million years ago...." No they didn't. True archeology and human history coupled with massive volcanism proves otherwise. The Jurassic fairytale is nothing but a cartoon-concocted lie 'supported' by models in museums, and Hollywood....

***The factless Copernican heliocentric universe which has zero proof, requires the Earth to perform orbital 'gymnastics' and the moon to shift into reverse orbit (this in itself is absolutely hilarious and rejects the very principal of observable science...), and has been taught as non-scientific dogma for over 400 years. The Bible and true science emphatically denies that the Earth 'rotates' daily on an 'axis' and 'orbits' around the sun yearly. The very opposite is Biblical and true and heliocentric voodoo is Satan's second grandest lie cast upon mankind (followed by "you really won't die" which duped Adam and Eve in the Garden...). Many won't be able to swallow just how deep this fraud extends, and the great extremes mankind has gone to promote this lie along with "astro-evolution". But it is all about to end as scheduled in Revelation, and fast so buckle up!

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" Genesis 1:1

"He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing." Job 26:7

"The earth is the LORD's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein." Psalm 24:1

"Who (Jesus Christ) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:" Colossians 1:15

Earth is not a "planet" (wanderer) nor does God call His Earth a "planet" in His Holy Word. Therefore should we???

M.A. Masters, Architect, Fountains of the Great Deep 77 Comments [4/17/2012 12:22:57 PM]
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Quote# 86957

Look, I made the point (maybe a little too subtle) that space exploration was all about the glorification of man, and certainly nothing to do with the glorification of God. Am still waiting for Morticia/ Paige to tell me how space exploration honors God.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

Pretty hard to justify this wanton extravagance just for a selfish euphoric and fleeting feeling.. Wow, man walked on the moon.!
Yeah, so what? Think about it..

More pressing business on planet Earth… Pull your heads out of the clouds,, people.
And I say once again, we did not need space exploration to develop technologies.

Just think what could have been achieved for the good of mankind with all that wasted billions upon billions…

kathy, Throne and Altar 62 Comments [4/17/2012 12:22:02 PM]
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Quote# 86954

You’re not replying to my emails or posting them any more so I have to assume that you are trying to ignore me. This is grossly unfair as you have not allowed me to complete the discussion and left me sounding like a jerk.

I am not at all saying that rape is okay or allowed. My point is that it’s a topic like Hitler that people (atheists) always bring out in arguments for shock value when it really doesn’t fit their point. I admit that I have maybe a bias because I’m a man and frankly I have a hard time imagining that I’d be traumatized for life if a woman forced herself on me. Maybe it’s really different for women but you have to admit that on the surface it doesn’t make a lot of sense for something to be incredibly pleasurable if one person does it to you and horrible if another person does it to you. I admit I might be wrong but I still think it’s probably overblown. There are a lot of worse things (like abortion).

In addition I’m not advocating that God only punishes people who rape Christian women or only protects Christians. What my meaning is is that Christianity makes us strong and that a Christian can stand up to ANY kind of adversery better than a non-Christian because he has God’s strength behind him. You also must remember that God never gives us more of a trial than we can handle. If you have been raped and feel traumatized by it take comfort that God has not abandoned you and that He knows you can get through this.

I’m praying for you all.

Censored One, IAmAnAtheist 63 Comments [4/17/2012 12:21:23 PM]
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Quote# 86941

(Jesus Lazers prevented WWIII)

Dobson: The scripture says ‘the shields of the earth belong to the Lord’ and if He removes that shield there is just simply nothing to save us, James is that the essence of what you were getting at here?

Robison: Well it’s interesting that you brought that verse up because I sat with Ronald Reagan and read that verse to him and had an Air Force general and an Army general at our side and I asked him, do you know what the shields of the earth are? And he said God. I said, do you happen to know what amplified light is, what laser is? He said, no I didn’t understand exactly what it is, and I said well laser is amplified light and it’s possible to take missiles down with amplified light, with laser, and the two generals stepped up and confirmed that. I said, sir, if you amplify the light with the principles that you say you believe and if you will seek wisdom, then you can protect us from a threat that has been totally committed to our destruction through nuclear assault.

James Robison & James Dobson, Right Wing Watch 50 Comments [4/16/2012 3:26:15 AM]
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Quote# 86940

Humans Are Devolving

“We are all mutants,” proclaimed a headline on Science Daily. “First Direct Whole-Genome Measure of Human Mutation Predicts 60 New Mutations in Each of Us.” The Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute press release reported 60 new mutations per individual, received from parents – a “striking value” the article characterized the “unexpected findings”. The genomes of children from two families were inspected in this first-ever test of generational mutation. “This fascinating result had not been anticipated, and it raises as many questions as it answers,” the article exclaimed without offering an explanation of how evolution could deal with this high a mutational load. See also the 06/05/2011 entry, “Genetic Entropy Confirmed.”

Note: the Sanger Institute is named after geneticist Fred Sanger, not (thank goodness) Margaret Sanger, the racist-eugenicist founder of Planned Parenthood. She had thought eliminating the unfit would be improve humanity. Would that Sanger, Hitler and other believers in eugenics had known what John Sanford revealed so clearly in his book Genetic Entropy and the Mystery of the Genome; all attempts to stop the tide of mutations are hopelessly ineffective. Not even extreme genocide of all the perceived unfit could stop the downward trend.

Even one or two mutations per generation is cause for alarm, let alone 60. John Sanford’s book is must reading to realize two things: (1) Natural selection can never find enough beneficial mutations to overcome the flood of deleterious ones, most of which are nearly-neutral mistakes that accumulate, like typographic errors, to cause genetic deterioration. (2) Humans could not possibly have lived for millions of years at this rate of mutational degradation. This story only reinforces with empirical data a worry about the future of our species that has long been known by population geneticists. We are not evolving, despite improvements in medicine; we are all less fit than Neanderthals and ancient Romans. Unless the Lord intervenes, the human genome is doomed.

Creation Evolution Headlines, Creation Evolution Headlines 51 Comments [4/16/2012 3:25:23 AM]
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Submitted By: Brendan Rizzo
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