Quote# 134080

A former Marine Corps drill instructor was convicted by a military jury of physically abusing young recruits — focusing his fury on three Muslim-Americans whom he referred to as “terrorists.”

The eight-man jury at Camp Lejeune, NC, determined Thursday that Gunnery Sgt. Joseph Felix was guilty of hazing and maltreatment of recruits at the boot camp in Parris Island, SC.


Felix was accused of being a central figure in an abusive group of drill instructors that came to light after the March 2016 suicide of one of the three Muslim-American recruits he targeted.


He had pleaded not guilty and did not testify during his trial.

The lengthy list of charges against Felix included a series of disturbing acts against more than a dozen recruits. They included ordering recruits to choke each other, ordering them to drink chocolate milk and then training them until they vomited, assaulting recruits, and forcing Muslim recruits into a clothes dryer.

“He wasn’t making Marines. He was breaking Marines,” prosecutor Lt. Col. John Norman told the jury.

Felix was a “bully” who particularly “picked out three Muslim recruits for special abuse because of their Muslim faith,” he said.

In one case, Felix ordered former trainee Lance Cpl. Ameer Bourmeche into a commercial clothes dryer, which then was turned on as Felix ordered him to renounce his Islamic faith, prosecutors said.

Bourmeche testified that he twice affirmed his creed and twice Felix and another DI sent him for a scorching tumble inside the dryer. After a third spin, Bourmeche said, he feared for his life and renounced his faith. The DIs then let him out, he said.

Felix also maltreated Raheel Siddiqui, 20, a Pakistani-American. Siddiqui committed suicide in March 2016 after Felix barked at and slapped him, prosecutors said.


In 2015 and 2016, the DI derided Siddiqui and two other Muslims as “terrorists,” Norman said. Felix also ordered Bourmeche to simulate chopping off the head of a fellow Marine while reciting “God is great” in Arabic, Norman said.

Felix was permanently removed from his duties as a DI after the probe began, said Marine Corps spokesman Capt. Joshua Pena.

Gunnery Sgt. Joseph Felix, New York Post 7 Comments [11/12/2017 9:37:26 AM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 134111

Original post by itsbbbitch

Ubernaut84: How would getting rid of all the women in your life help... If your accuser IS A DUDE?

Itsbbbitch: Because those gay dudes are following women's lead, duh. They are cashing in on a witch hunt women started to extort men. Get rid of the women in your life, and their copycat gay orbiters will disappear from your life along with them.

Ubernaut84: That makes no sense if you yourself are gay. Takei and Spacey are. Suggesting they'd be fine if they just avoided all women is asinine.

gods_bones: Um actually it does, because believe it or not, not all gay people are the same. The only ones who stoop to false accusations are the gays who try to liken themselves to women. The rest of the community has far more integrity than that, which is why you only see bottoms behaving that way. Their faghags taught them how.

Itsbbbitch, gods_bones, r/MGTOW 3 Comments [11/12/2017 4:04:42 AM]
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Submitted By: ScrappyB

Quote# 134110

At what point does innocent until proven guilty kick in?

When we no longer live in a rape culture.

[Thread 1:]
Nice to see the usual dudebros in here fighting to maintain rape culture. Way to go guys.
You’re either with us or against us, amirite?

Uh, yes. Quite literally. You’re either for ending rape culture. Or you’re not.
I’ve never seen anyone here who is not for ending rape culture.

lol Uh huh.
Uh huh. If you’re serious about that charge, now is where you name names right?

Well, first of all, I pretty much already did. Second, I’d like to thank you and every mediocre man like you for adhering to the same trolling pattern for the last several decades. It’s makes it so easy to spot you all from a mile away.
To be clear, so folks know whether they really should flag your posts for making such a baseless and disgusting accusation... You’re accusing alx9090 and and Roln of being in favor of a rape culture. That right?

Sure go ahead. Flag away. I’m tired of dealing with men who repeatedly blame victims at this site and do everything they can to maintain the status quo of rape culture. Heaven forbid we deal with actual sexism on the left. Much better to just shut us women up, isn’t it?
It must be tough to continue thinking of yourself as a good person when you realize you've been part of the sexual harassment problem all along.

[Thread 2:]
Who needs justice? I’ll get us a rope. Let’s go find us some guilty-looking folks. We can string `em up and feel better about ourselves. Doesn’t matter if they even did anything.

Oh please. You guys really need to get better material. Why don’t you go back to victim blaming Louis CK’s victims and pretending those women consented to what he did.
OR, and here’s an idea, you can deal with the idea that this diary makes guys like you uncomfortable for reasons you’re not willing to admit or even deal with. Much Easier to just attack women and let us know that as long as you’re alive, none of us are ever really safe.
Setting aside the presumption of innocence is the issue for me.
You were asked a serious question and you gave a slogan answer that had nothing to do with it — unless you really do intend to do away with the bedrock principle of modern justice and the presumption of innocence.
It’s always been hard to make a point with you because you so frequently use hate indiscriminately (“dudebros” is the n-word to my ears) against people who by and large support you.

[Thread 3:]
Innocent until proven guilty only applies to a court of law. The same courts and laws which have denied justice to sexual assault and rape victims pretty much since forever.
You have to prove that a crime was committed by the defendant beyond a reasonable doubt.
A high percentage of these cases are one persons word against another, no witnesses, no or equivocal physical evidence, usually alcohol involved.
Taking someone’s life and freedom is extremely serious. With little evidence other than words, what is a court to do?

Please. As if innocent people don’t go to jail and guilty people set free all the time. This idea that we can only know someone’s guilt via a court, that we can only achieve justice via a court is ridiculous.
The authors of the Constitution said “the accused shall be presumed innocent until a judge or jury delivers a guilty verdict.” BTW, the accused — whether is it an elected lawmaker, a movie producer, or the school janitor — should be either acquitted or convicted in a court of law, not in the court of public opinion. Any other way is called vigilante justice or kangaroo court.

What a splendid idea! Quote slaveholders who didn’t believe women should have the right to vote. Now you’ve totally convinced me.
Do you know of any other legal way? Would you really like the US turn the justice system totally upside down, and allow the law enforcement community to declare someone guilty, and then shoot the “convicted felon”? I surely don’t want that, and no decent honest prosecutor wants that. If that is really what you want, then I suggest moving to Iran, and make sure you go out of your way to be accused of a crime.

Guilt in a criminal sense can only be determined through the court system, and one that is neutral, not racist/classist/homophobic/etc., and one giving the accused access to competent representation.
You seem to think innocent people are imprisoned and guilty people are set free all the time, so what’s a few more? NO.

moviemeister76, Daily Kos 6 Comments [11/12/2017 4:02:20 AM]
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Quote# 134108

the same way you can have studios not wanting to make games for the US because feminazis say they're "sexist and degrading to women" for example the Dead or alive games. These shitty SJWs are ruining art and movies and games. The worst part is how big AAA game studios will pussy out of historical accuracy in fear of backlash yet in real life elderly nazis are being tracked down like a witch hunt. Even if they were just troops and not SS or responsible for anything other than being in the wrong army.?

Savage Wraith, YouTube 21 Comments [11/12/2017 4:00:02 AM]
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Quote# 134107

morality is petty and meaningless, Satan was a cherubim, Lucifer a seraphim the highest of goods order but because the morning star was the first he's the only angel with true freedom and again he no longer cares about humanity he just wants to go home. and when Lucifer got the boot he wasn't replaced by Michael of all angels for who knows what reason but some random human named Metatron and there are the Elohim who (by definition) are god like beings and you can become one if your a good enough boy scout. finally demons don't make people feel worthless the universe does.I'm not going to further this discussion with you ok, leave it at this. please.?

Michael Bleskoski, YouTube comment section 12 Comments [11/12/2017 3:59:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Aurum9999

Quote# 134106

[From "MLK FBI Files Vindicate White Nationalist Critics"]

Many years ago, I remember stumbling across the truth about Martin Luther King, Jr. at Stormfront, which for years has maintained a website called MartinLutherKing.org.

It was there that I first learned about the seedier side of Martin Luther King, Jr.: the plagiarism, the adultery, the communist affiliations, the ties to radical black nationalists, the orgies with prostitutes, etc. I later bought the Taylor Branch Trilogy which confirmed that the history of Martin Luther King, Jr. and the Civil Rights Movement had been sanitized for mainstream consumption.

In one memorable incident, I recall reading about how the Rev. Ralph Abernathy, a close associate and successor of Martin Luther King, Jr., had been chased out of the First Baptist Church through the streets of Montgomery after his wife discovered he was keeping a mistress in his own congregation. The Rev. Jesse Jackson, who was another close associate and protege of Martin Luther King, Jr., admitted fathering a love child with one of his Rainbow/PUSH employees. He was also sued by one of his employees who had to clean up the hotel rooms after his sexual escapades.

The worst was the Rev. James Bevel who played a leading role with Martin Luther King, Jr. in organizing the Children’s Crusade in Birmingham in 1963 and the Selma-to-Montgomery March in 1965. He was convicted in 2008 of incest and sentenced to 15 years in prison for molesting his own daughter. MLK allegedly spent the last night of his life having an orgy with prostitutes in a Memphis hotel room screaming “I’m f–ing for God” and “I’m not a Negro tonight!” while the FBI listened.

No one should be surprised by what has come out about the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. in the recently declassified FBI files. It has been floating around the internet for years and was even brought up in the Hollywood movie “Selma.” There is much more still out there including FBI recordings of MLK’s illicit sexual encounters which have never been released to the public.

The most damaging allegation is that the Jewish communist Stanley Levison fed MLK all his lines and approved everything he said because he was a “slow thinker.” In the 1950s, many American communists rebranded as “civil rights activists” in order to push their ideas into the mainstream:

Hunter Wallace, Occidental Dissent 3 Comments [11/12/2017 3:59:40 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 134105

ScareCro: 5 reasons people WILL FIGHT the flat-earth knowledge:

1. Brain effort – The brain will recognize this information will FORCE it to re-arrange and re-program several pieces of information it’s accumulated over the years. The brain will fight because this WILL require a high amount of mental effort, and the best way to avoid the effort is to avoid the information.

2. The ego problem – Due to a person’s ego, they’ll fight you and your new information, because they value their words over you and yours. They cannot accept that you might know such valuable truths, that they didn’t realize before, and in defense of their ego, they’ll disclaim your truths.

3. Selfishness – In many occasions, the person is so comfortable living the fast life that they don’t want to simply change their way of life, and couldn’t care less about what is happening in the world. They are too focused on themselves.

4. Psychologically dependent on our own version of the truth – This information is not easy to swallow; one cannot accept this information and go on with their lives in the same way. Most of the people are not ready to be unplugged and many of them are so inert, so dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it. An example is in couples, sometimes one partner (husband/spouse) is so bad/violent/disrespectful, yet the other partner will not leave him/her because he/she is so dependent psychologically on them.

5. Refusal to accept that the system is cheating/lying to them – They believe and value the voice of the system; it has become the prime decider of their reality.

ScareCro: G?r?a?v?i?t?y? - Simple, objects that are heavier than the medium they are in "fall". Objects that are lighter than the medium they are in "rise". Objects with the same buoyancy as the medium they are in "float". No gravity, no sphere. Oceans don't curve into spinning ball.?

Beenjamin: Heavier elements, Iron, Nickel and Cobalt, fall downwards, and that pulls itself into a sphere. If gravity exists, it's just a simple equation to prove that the earth is a sphere. Also, do you believe other planets are flat? if not, that makes no sense. If so,explain Saturn's rings.?
6 months ago•

ScareCro: If a ball earth existed, this conversation wouldn't. Ball earth math is shot right out the window with videos like this, observable landmarks visible when they CLEARLY should be hidden behind a curve. The heliocentric model collapses when the scientific method is applied. As far as "planets" go, I see round lights in the sky just like you and everyone else. Does that mean you can land a "spaceship" on them and walk around? Nope. Does that mean because you see round lights in the sky that you live on a round light in the sky? Nope. If the pool balls are round, then by proxy the pool table must be too? Nope. The stars reset themselves and have done so since antiquity. There are sun and moon dials thousands of years old, still accurate to this day. The "argument" flat vs. ball is "won or lost" at curvature. Oceans don't curve around into a ball. You'll never observe or be able to measure that in our reality. Their math proves their math, when their math is applied to a ball earth, it fails.?

Beenjamin: If the earth was flat, we wouldn't be having this conversation, as there would be no comms satellites in orbit, and life itself wouldn't even have been able to properly develop. Planes would be unable to fly, and winds would be constant and extremely powerful. Please stop smoking weed all day long, and get your hippie ass to school. Kutabare.?

ScareCro: Oh silly boy, guess how much communication is carried through towers and cables. Actually, don't. Go look it up. If the earth were a ball, gyroscopes wouldn't work. And speaking of planes (air PLANE, notice anything?) Go look at your flight patterns on a ball vs flat earth. So, you're obviously a super noob with FE. You can continue the silly spinning ball fairy tale all ya want. No curve, no ball.?

ScareCro, YouTube 18 Comments [11/12/2017 3:59:32 AM]
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Quote# 134104

just a matter of time...
I think people in well paid jobs are just afraid of losing their jobs if they join us flat earthers...
we need more well known and respected scientists and mathematicians to out these ball earth charlatans...

even though, it is simple math...?

GT Big Hair, Youtube 3 Comments [11/12/2017 3:59:24 AM]
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Quote# 134102

Right here is where we need to decide who is the real bad guy. The leftist judge, or the demonized muzslime. In a good world the freaking vile dangerous mizslime could be shot, hanged, or at least deported, but in a totally screwed up world where “judges” make twisted decisions in favor of the devil tormented murdering muzslime, the the “JUDGE” is the real and present danger.

This humanish “judge” needs some serious JUDGING! The evil GLOBS aren’t even TRYING to hide their evil any longer, they are rubbing it in the face of the good people. GOOD people best get ready to do some JUDGING!!!!!

Don Spilman, Bare Naked Islam 4 Comments [11/12/2017 3:58:42 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134101

Oh, this is really all. Muslims in an advert for Christmas. That’s it, I am finally finished with England.

The disgust that overwhelms me could never be put into words. Enjoy yourselves, you so called English people.

Listen well to London’s Muslim mayor and learn how to be good savages. And may you all rot in hell.

Shelagh, Bare Naked Islam 14 Comments [11/12/2017 3:58:31 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134098

(Description of this fundies Youtube channel)

Every person in the bible knew the earth was flat. In fact Jesus himself told us the stars would fall. Do we really need to twist the words of Jesus to mean asteroids, comets, and meteors? Did Jesus not know what stars were, or do you think he was being deceptive? I believe he is the Truth... and you should too.

We've been indoctrinated since birth to believe we live on a globe, all of us have, for generations. There is a ton of proof for the flat earth, yet most won't even look. Why is that? Why will we look at evidence for literally anything else in the whole world, but for some reason see evidence for a flat stationary earth as craziness and can't even bare to hear about it? Doesn't that strike you as odd? Something that we all instinctively share denial for? Satan has fooled the whole world. See through his deception before the 'aliens' (Nephilim) deception. It's not gonna save your soul, only Jesus can do that, but God wants his children to see his creation for what it is :)

ThePottersClay, YouTube  4 Comments [11/12/2017 3:57:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 134097

In Buddhism the only being that makes any sense is Mara. He is the god of desire and fulfilments of material existence. Buddha just states have no desire's so that the energy of the elements that forms you will dissipate so when you die the psychic aspects of the elements will fizzle out on the astral and you will cease to exist as its desire that holds them together and gives them meaning. As Buddhism preaches you have no soul, no Atman. Thus you don't actually exist as a soul consciousness. What you perceive as yourself is illusion. Your just a recycling of five elements nothing else. When you realize this deeply its suppose to cause a psychic wave that releases the power of the elements causing the dissolution of existence upon your death. This is the meaning of enlightenment in Buddhism.

Nirvana in Buddhism means literally extinction. Buddhism states EXISTANCE is suffering and that EXISTANCE has an END. That end is EXTINCTION. So if you obtain Nirvana you literally cease to exist. Lights out forever. Mara is the god of existence and life. Buddha is the god of death and annihilation. Buddhism exists to bring death, destruction, demoralization and annihilation on all life. Buddha is actually an evil character that preaches hatred for all life and the purposes of life. Buddha preached an evil doctrine that is identical to the evil doctrine the fictional Nazarene preaches on the mount. This has been noted by scholars. There is nothing spiritual about Buddhism, its annihilationist nihilism.

This is why having Buddha statues is heretical in Buddhism the form of Buddha that of Gautama is actually Mara. Because its an existing being thus the realm of Mara. MA...water....RA...fire, the two elements that generate all existence forever. The actual Buddha is literally nothing, total extinction. Theravada Buddhism is stated to be the original sect and doctrine of Buddhism. What is obvious is there is a lot of talk about Buddhism and its becoming the new trendy, trend. But no actual mention of what Buddhism is as the core of its system and meaning. Just buzz words. The Buddhist Theocrats are also purposely pushing the trendy buzz words and feel goodism. Without telling anyone what Buddhism actually is. Read on to understand why.

Its simple Buddhism states existence is suffering and suffering has an end which sums up its four noble "truths." Which sums up the whole system. Suffering is existence....what is the opposite of existence? Extinction, what does Nirvana mean in Pali: EXTINCTION. Buddhism states there is no soul nor eternal I or self. The person is a collection of only five aggravates or elemental forces of a consciousness that simply reform into each new incarnation according to what karma has ripened a restacking of the same deck. These forces are held together by a karmic glue and desire is what causes karma to continue on and solidify the aggravates together keeping one in the wheel of suffering which is existence.

The Buddhist meditation system is basically void mediation and nothing else. Its a form of introspection that allows one to trace the roots of desire and dismantle them within the psyche. So that eventually when they die. The five aggravates will dissipate and they will cease to exist and become totally extinct. This is obtainment of Nirvana which means EXTINCTION. Buddhism states the biggest illusion and desire that causes one to stay in the cycle of existence thus life. Is the belief one has a soul an eternal I that goes on. Enlightenment in Buddhism is totally accepting the ridiculous belief that there is no self and one does not exist. Ones existence as a self is maya. This belief acceptance is believed to be the switch hit that dissolves the karmic bonds totally and allows for them to reach total Extinction, Nirvana upon death.

Buddhism is a materialistic, annihilationist death cult. That preaches a strange sentimental, radical egalitarianism which is why the current Liberal West finds it so appealing. The ideology preached in the Buddhist Dhammapada is identical to the Sermon On The Mount of Christianity. Which is an enemy program. Which points to who is behind Buddhism. Who benefits from removing spiritual knowledge and replacing it with a paleo, Communistic system. Now the Buddhist system furthered laid down the following. The science of mantra and astrology was banned. And the practices of Yoga [Kundalini Yoga is Yoga] where also banned from being taught. The original eight fold path which survived in Tantra which is the esoteric knowledge of the Veda. Was replaced by the Jainist eight fold path. Which leads to nowhere spiritual. The Tantra texts uniformly agree Mantra is the number one most important tool for enlightenment which Buddhism by order removes.

Its obvious what went on here. They removed the actual spiritual knowledge needed for enlightenment which is defined in the East and West as the ascension of the serpent [Kundalini Yoga] a large part of the Magnum Opus is based on astrology which in Vedic means the science of light. And replaced it with meaningless materialistic nonsense which leaves a person trapped in the cycle of suffering and does not free them from anything. They stay in a spiritual dormant state and hope for extinction of their being from all existence. As Nirvana. With the technical or symbolic language of Buddhism its stolen from the original Vedic tradition and corrupted into the opposite meaning. They changed the wine but kept the bottle. Its well established Siddhartha never existed. He is a stolen and rewrote Sun God.

HP Mageson666, Joy of Satan 4 Comments [11/12/2017 3:57:18 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134095

I believe the bible is the inspired word of God and nothing should be added or taken away from it. Man should never twist God's word to fit his own world view because the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God.

God created the Sun, Moon, and stars on the fourth day, however grass, fruit, trees, and all other vegetation were created on day three... The bible mentions God created two great lights, the greater to rule the day and the lesser to rule the night, which I believe means exactly what it says "Two" great lights, meaning the moon is giving it's own light. Man tells us the moon is a giant rock reflecting the first "great light".

We are told the sun, moon, and stars are for signs and seasons and to "give light on the earth". That means the stars were created to light the earth like it says, it also means they are considered "lesser lights" seeing as how there were only two "great lights". Man tells us stars are enormous, a lot of which are much larger than our own sun and millions of times larger than the earth light years away all with solar systems of their own. Does it make sense that God created a vast infinite universe including all stars, planets, and galaxies on day four but spent the rest of creation week focusing on the earth making plants, animals, and people? :) The stars are much smaller and much closer than modern day monkey man science would have us believe, and they've been placed above our head as God's giant celestial clock so when we "look up" we know what time it is.

There are several places in the bible that tell us one day the stars will fall to the earth, in fact Jesus himself tells us this. This is a problem for me, because it really paints us into a corner and we only have so many options to believe. Either A: Jesus did not know what stars were, which I don't believe because he is God and most definitely knows what stars are. Or B: Jesus knew what stars were, he even said the word that meant stars, but really he meant asteroids/comets/and meteors. I don't believe this either, because Jesus himself is the truth and would not lie to his disciples or deceive them in any way saying one thing but meaning something else. Or C: Jesus knew exactly what the stars were and meant that near the end of days stars would literally begin to fall out of their place in the firmament above to the earth below. Here again if we listen to man, it would be like a trillions of flaming beach balls hitting a single grain of sand. The wisdom of this world is foolishness to God.

In Joshua 10 12-14 and Isaiah 38 7-8 we see something. The Lord stops the sun from going down a full day in Joshua, and makes the sundial go backwards 10 degrees in Isaiah. Both of these instances would mean the globe earth stopped it's rotation completely and in Isaiah's case rotated backwards in order for the sun to do this in the sky. The truth is the earth is flat and stationary and the much smaller and closer sun circling over head stopped, and in Isaiah's case went backwards.

How bout the tower of Babel? If the world was a spinning globe why didn't God just let them build it? They couldn't have survived outer-space. Why was Nimrod trying to build it for that matter, wouldn't the enemy at least know it was a globe? Wouldn't the tower eventually have been destroyed when reaching the point where the 1038mph atmosphere that's spinning with the earth meets the non rotating vacuum of space? Aren't the temperatures up there pretty inhospitable as well? Seems to me if things are like we are told in science the problem would have solved itself but instead God had to intervene. The truth is they were trying reach the firmament, and God knew what they were trying to do and he stopped them.

Once you realize the truth you'll read the entire bible with new eyes. Many atheist have been saved do to finding out the truth that we are in-deed created, praise God! Even though the flat earth is unconventional, God can use anything to bring lost sheep into the fold and will. If you really look into it, you will see what Satan has done, and what our father is doing :)

ThePottersClay, Youtube 4 Comments [11/12/2017 3:55:22 AM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 134093

There will be a lot of things causing turmoil on the earth like we've never experienced before. Many of which will be blamed on the lies about space. Once you realize that space as we know it doesn't exist, you won't be fooled when you are told about the asteroids, or energy waves from the distant sun causing power outages or fires. You won't be fooled by the return of the nephilim/demons/or fallen angels that they will tell us are aliens from other worlds. You won't be fooled with distant solar systems, rogue planets, Nibiru, or the coming Antichrist.

Faking space and making sure you believe it exist, is not only important to Lucifer in order to hide God through evolution and the big bang. But it's equally if not more important during the end times to hide God's wrath so mankind will not repent and reconcile with their creator. Please realize not only what is being hidden, but why it's being hidden. Lucifer is the god of this world for now, and his time is almost up. Judgement from the one true God is imminent. A relationship with Jesus Christ is the one and only way to escape what's coming.

ThePottersClay, Youtube 1 Comments [11/12/2017 3:54:49 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 134092

Trannies are unstable and defective. Look at their suicide and drug abuse stats. Putting them in a position of authority for appearances sake is asking for trouble.

Spok, Free Republic 7 Comments [11/12/2017 3:52:38 AM]
Fundie Index: 2
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134091

(Video Description of Flat Earth Sermon)

There are many reasons people begin looking into the "Flat Earth", whether it's just morbid curiosity, or to try and debunk it all together. But one thing is for sure, if you can be intellectually honest with yourself, and humble enough to actually examine the evidence, it no longer becomes a theory. We simply can't be living on a spinning ball because curvature and movement cannot and will never be detected.

NASA and the use of fish-eye lenses, along with indoctrination at every turn (schools, books, TV, movies, etc...) are the reasons humanity believes they live on a Globe. If we could all drop our pride long enough, the truth will surely reveal itself. The evidence as well as God's word point us directly to a flat stationary earth. Do your own research, the truth is important.

The Great Deception - Will You be Deceived?

Having the Eyes to See the Whole World Deceived

The Top 10 Reasons I Don't Trust NASA

Curvature Website used in the Video:

Curvature Chart:


How to be Saved - The Most Important "Truth"

Getting saved is the easiest and most important thing you can do :) You just have to come to the knowledge that you (like everyone else on earth) are a sinner in need of salvation or we would spend eternity in Hell. Salvation is not something we could ever attain on our own, that is why Jesus came to this earth and paid the ultimate price for our sins by allowing himself to be sacrificed for all mankind so through him we can be saved. Jesus led a sinless life and by doing so was able to take all of humanities sins they would ever commit on himself making one sacrifice that covered all sin.

To be saved you have to say a prayer something like this (and most importantly mean it because God reads your heart). Say "God I know I am a sinner. I know that because of my sin Jesus came to this earth and died for me making atonement for all the sins I would ever commit. I believe Jesus died on that cross and raised from the dead three days later conquering death and making a way for me to be saved by taking my sins upon himself. I pray Lord that you save me and come into my heart and life allowing me to be born again through Jesus, living in this world but no longer being of this world. Thank you Lord for saving my soul please lead me, guide me, and direct me all the remaining days of my life. In Jesus name I pray, Amen."

If you said that prayer and meant it you are saved and sealed and nothing anyone could ever say or do can take that away. I would continue to pray daily building a relationship with God, and read the bible some everyday as well. He knows you, but that's the only way to get to know him. Try your best to stop sinning (this is not possible by the way) but you have to make the effort because that is what true repentance means is that you will turn from your sin. Don't give up, this is not easy, I repent and ask God to forgive me for something or another every single day. He knows we aren't perfect, but if we truly love him we gotta try :)

God bless you, here are some scriptures that you might find helpful, and welcome to the family! :D

ThePottersClay, Youtube 3 Comments [11/12/2017 3:52:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 134087

Diversity is ruining my life. I can't even find a girlfriend. I dont want a non white from a third world country where they don't know any cultural references. I don't want mixed kids. I just want a white girl. It's already hard enough to find one without the kikes and feminists cock blocking you. FML

OctopusManDragon, Reddit 8 Comments [11/12/2017 3:50:15 AM]
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Quote# 134086

(referring to article here: https://www.liveaction.org/news/?p=174292)

This article proves once again that those who are "pro-choice" are anti-science.

“I’m reading this as anti-abortion wedge. If an unborn child can be a beneficiary, that makes them a legal person, so how can they be killed?”

And that statement proves once again that those who are "pro-choice" are truly the modern-day equivalents of slavers and Jew gassers.

WorldGoneCrazy-NotMurderedYet, Live Action News 0 Comments [11/12/2017 3:49:29 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 134085

Trump slandered and abused People's Korea whilst in puppet south Korea even calling the DPRK a hellhole. Well just look at the US , the average charge for a stay in a US hospital in 2010 was $33,000 dollars !

Just imagine that ! . In the DPRK all health care is free of charge . The USA has anything between 700,000 to 3 million people homeless whereas the DPRK provides housing virtually free of charge and there are no homeless or beggars. The World Health Organisation even estimated that 120 people in the US died of starvation in 2004

UK Korean Friendship Association, Korean Friendship Association 8 Comments [11/12/2017 3:49:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134084

An excellent commentary the south Korean puppets are trying to smash up the socialist system of the DPRK with the help of the US imperialists , Japanese imperialists and also Russia and China.

UK Korean Friendship Association, Korean Friendship Association 4 Comments [11/12/2017 3:48:53 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134083

"The U.S. military would find itself outnumbered and under-supplied if war broke out with North Korea, " This is what the former commander of the US forces in south Korea Lt Gen Jan Marc Jouas has written in a letter to the US congress .

We always knew that . The US imperialists would lose another war in Korea not because they are "outnumbered " but because of the Juche Idea and the Songun idea which gives the Korean People's Army an incredible spiritual and ideological strength that is hard for Westerners and Americans to imagine . Plus the fact that according to some ex British squaddies who have been on NATO exercises with US troops , US troops are lazy and useless.

UK Korean Friendship Association, Korean Friendship Association 4 Comments [11/12/2017 3:47:53 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134082

The Juche Idea means, in a few words, that the owner of the revolution and construction are the masses. – Eternal Leader, Kim Il Sung.

Korea is blessed with a great idea which enjoys unanimous support and sympathy from the world progressives. It is the immortal Juche idea fathered by President Kim Il Sung. The Juche idea, based on the philosophical principle that man is the master of everything and decides everything, convinces the popular masses that one is responsible for one’s own destiny and shows them a correct way of carving out their own destiny by themselves.

The Juche idea has fully proved its validity and vitality through over half a century of the Korean revolution and the world revolutionary people’s anti-imperialist struggle for independence. This is why the Juche idea has been recognized as the main idea of the present era. Many people of the world are striving to build a new prosperous society free from all kinds of domination and subordination, taking the Juche idea as their guiding idea. The Juche idea, which strongly propels the advance of the era of independence, has been developed in depth by leader Kim Jong Il’s outstanding ideological and theoretical activities.

Unknown author, KFUSA 1 Comments [11/12/2017 3:47:31 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134079

(Context: This man is a Flat Earth Preacher and has a whole YouTube channel devoted to that ministry. These are two comments in a video in which he responds to a CREATIONIST refuting Flat Earth)

Comment One: You think Lisle has "spend most of his life doing actual research"...???? Your comment here actually highlights one of the main false assumptions that is central to this whole affair, the false assumption I am actually taking aim AT... Did Lisle actually discover or confirm any of the claims of Copernicanism by way of conducting his own experiments? Challenging the status quo? Weighing what was being taught by the mainstream against what the Bible says, and seeing if observation might show the mainstream to be false? No. The only aspect he has had the courage to question is the vast stretches of Evolutionary time. Yet he turns around and regurgitates everything the same cosmic evolutionists teach about vast stretches of space. Lisle did not get his Phd in astronomy by questioning if modern astronomy was as much of a pseudoscientific lie as Darwinian evolution is. I am not judging him "as a person". I am pointing out the glaring bias present in someone who's entire professional existence is predicated upon the assumption that Copernican astronomy is true. But since you mentioned it, I have done my own research. Both Biblical, and empirical, and unfortunately I can simply no longer accept the indefensible claim that the Bible actually teaches the Copernican model. Nor can I accept the assertion that humans have been into "outer space", or walked on the moon. I have made dozens of videos now which chronicle the progression of my research. Where's yours??

Comment Two: You're correct. The original Hebrew cosmology is not a flat pancake floating in space. Coincidentally, this is not what modern FE'ers believe either. There is no such thing as "space" at all. You have not done a shred of actual research, as neither has Lisle, who for the record, was not being "attacked" via ad hominem. It is hardly a "personal attack" to simply point out the ridiculous degree of bias an individual like Lisle has when it comes to questioning Copernican astronomy. The proof for the Flat Earth is extensive. The proof for the globe is assumptive reasoning and circular arguments based on shadows in wells, and fake NASA pictures. Fake as the pictures of Evolutions' celebrated "missing links' in fact. It's all one big Evolutionary fairy tale. All of it.?

the Truth is stranger than fiction..., Youtube 13 Comments [11/11/2017 11:42:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 134076

I know I am preaching to the choir on this one, but I want to get this out:

Traffic laws are a travesty of the justice system, punishing people for violating nobody's rights. Everyone breaks traffic laws, often willfully and sometimes without even knowing about it, both of which suggest bad lawmaking. At best these laws serve as poor substitutes for what would otherwise be contractual agreements for private road usage, at worst they exploit the power of government force by expropriating wealth for use toward illegitimate government activity.

I am fed up with these laws. They are like taxes in that the money stolen from you and me is not great enough to warrant a serious uproar or rebellion, or even a letter to a government official. They are unlike taxes in that one can put a face to every single penny being stolen: the police officer, and as a side-note this has had a big negative effect on how I think of the police generally. How does one live with one's self when stealing money from another person, face-to-face, as part of a career?

The solution is privatizing our roads, whereupon everyone will be happy and nobody will be punished for using his own judgement on the road, unless it is warranted through contract breach or by damaging another or his property. That would eliminate the laws automatically. But since most people seem to accept roads as inherently government-operated, somehow setting aside the poor quality, upkeep, and price as a standard different from their other dealings with business and service, I doubt that will happen any time soon.

As a fast driver and a lover of the road (I dream of 7-lane highways), perhaps I am extra sensitive to traffic laws, cracked roads and congestion. Is there anyone else who shares my sentiment? What about the circumstances necessary for privatizing our roads?

JASKN, ObjectivismOnline 23 Comments [11/11/2017 11:19:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134073

People who are serious about ideas have to deal with the central tenets of the philosophy, not out of context statements. Otherwise, they aren't going to convince anyone of anything.

As to Ayn Rand's statements here, I'm sure it stems from her disgust over altruism and to the evils to which it leads. Altruists are hell bent on bringing everyone down to the same level and they love to inculcate guilt over issues like these. If you want to see direct evidence of what altruism does to people, the results are writ large in history. The Soviet Union, Nazi Germany and other collectivist totalitarian states show clearly how much life is valued by altruists.

The end result of such a moral code is the exact opposite of caring for people, because at core it's saying "You are nothing", “Du bist nicht". Altruism is death worship. Anyone who acts on altruistic premises, whether they know it or not, are acting on ideas that do not value individuals, and we’re all individuals, including those who are handicapped. I don't have that particular lecture, so I can't comment any more than that.

Thales, ObjectivismOnline  11 Comments [11/11/2017 11:18:10 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie
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