Quote# 126181

@EyeCrushUSA:
@MightBeANovelty:
It doesn't matter if Assad gassed 72 or 1 Million people. It's not OUR FUCKING PROBLEM and we have no moral obligation.

Why the fuck is some Syrian worth 2M dollars. The strike costed $150M for just 72 Syrians.


Says a lot about you that you value human life like that.


Yea, I don't give a shit. Should we bankrupt our nation because muh human lives. News flash, if we spent the same amount per American, the budget would be $600T. Save their asses and then they come as "Refugees" and rape our women. They wouldn't even spend $10 on you and we're ok with spending Millions. Pathological Altruism is a disease.

Why should some Syrian be worth $2M tax money?

MightBeANovelty, Reddit - r/The_Donald 17 Comments [4/9/2017 7:41:52 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 126173

The Jesus Fish is a witchcraft symbol

Chris LaSala, youtube 21 Comments [4/9/2017 2:49:47 PM]
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Quote# 126168

Whosover wants to overthrow Assad of Syria, wants to murder all Alawites and murder or expel all Christians. There used to be a moderate opposition, composed entirely of do-gooder employees of “NGOs”, which is to say, employees of the State Department, but they all got out when things went bad, and are now employed on various do-gooder international grants all over the world, such as settling Somali refugees on middle American marginal electorates in flyover country. The opposition to Assad is now 100% head chopper Muslim. The Cathedral delusively imagines it can regain control once they have finished chopping off heads.

Whosoever wants to overthrow Assad of Syria, wants to ally with people unlike me, to murder people who are like me, to murder them for what they have in common with me. Murdering some people who are like me, murdering them because they are like me is a step towards murdering everyone like me.

It is striking that the advocates of reason, rationality, niceness, and maximizing everyone’s utility always wind up with pyramids of skulls. The French revolution was in large part a creation of the cult of reason, and I see the same evil and madness in today’s rationalist community, for example the Bay Area rationalist community, whose rationality is strikingly and conspicuously limited by their refusal to engage in thoughtcrime and their demented demonization of thought criminals.

Recall the Populares of Rome. “Populares” is latin for “Democrats”, or “People’s Party”. In the end they allied with the Samnites. I suppose the Populares wanted to give the Samnites citizenship and fairer treatment, because that is the kind of moldy bananas the Populares stood for, being nice to people, especially the oppressed, remedying justice and inequality, rationality, reason, and reasonableness, all that filthy disgusting garbage. The Samnites, however, wanted to overthrow the walls of Rome, kill every Roman male, and rape every fertile age Roman woman. The Populare/Samnite alliance strikingly resembles today’s progressive/Muslim alliance.

The fans of kindness, niceness, pleasantness, reason, and rationality tend to wind up quite unreasonably and unpleasantly torturing and murdering very large numbers of people. Hostility to near is a key foundational principle of leftism, goes down all the way to friends, family, and political allies.

War with Syria is war on the side of Jews against the side of Christians, since Assad is keeping Syrian Christians alive, and Israel is backing the side that wants Assad (and Christians) dead. I don’t think this is a matter of the Zionist Occupation Government ruling the world. Rather it is that the Cathedral, though it hates Israel, or rather hates Israel being Jewish, wants a non Jewish Israel, hates Christians even more. The Cathedral is allied with Israel the state, but there is a point of contention, since they cannot stand Israel being Jewish or India being Hindu, any more than they can stand America being Christian. Israel the state wants Syria the state in chaos, and the Cathedral wants to rule Syria and imagines it can rule through the head choppers. Were they to actually succeed in ruling through head choppers, Israel the state would find itself under a lot heavier pressure to become less Jewish, but the Israelis doubt that this outcome is very likely.

Trump’s attack on Syria was both real and fake – real enough to threaten Assad and Putin, real enough to get his judge through the senate, real enough to keep the Pentagon on his side, fake enough to avoid war with Assad and Putin. What is clear is that the left wants to overthrow Assad. If we continue to take substantial measures to overthrow Assad, then Trump will have cucked out to the left as the Czar did, which I think will likely be the death of Trump and his family, as it was the death of the Czar and his family. Any concessions to the left are just blood in the water. They are more likely to kill you if you play nice with them than if you piss on them.

When Obama took power, we were involved in two pointless unwinnable wars in the middle east, where we supporting the side that could perhaps be argued to be the good guys, though it was far from clear who the good guys were.

When Obama had governed for eight years, he had gotten us into five more pointless unwinnable wars in the middle east, where we are for the most part supporting sides that are appallingly evil and indiscriminately murderous.

When I say unwinnable, it is not that we lack the capacity to defeat a bunch of backward goat herders. It is that we lack the capacity to defeat a bunch of backward goat herders when our troops are required to behave like heavily armed nursemaids, and when I say pointless, I mean that the victory condition is defined as our enemies liking us, rather than our enemies being dead or enslaved. If you forbid our troops to kill civilians that are intermixed with our enemies, our enemies will grasp civilians to their chests. If you applied the the old laws of war, which allowed you to flatten enemy cities and such like, civilians would separate themselves from combatants, and combatants would have no reason to prevent them from doing so.

And now Trump is under extreme pressure to bring us into war with Syria, North Korea, Russia, and China, and may well be cucking out under that pressure, bringing us from seven low level wars in five of which we are allied to the bad guys, to eleven wars, in three of which we will be the bad guys, and two of them likely to go thermonuclear.

Why is it that the fans of niceness and rationality tend to be unpleasant and irrational, from the Bay Area Rationalist community to the Khmer Rouge?

It is because caring for your children, your spouse, your lover, your sisters, your brothers, and your friends is likely to be expensive and inconvenient. Caring for far away people located in places you cannot find on the map tends to be a whole lot cheaper and much more convenient.

And thus it is no surprise that Badwhites look after their children, their spouses, their kin, their lovers, and their friends, while Goodwhites do not look after their children, their spouses, and their kin, and routinely stab lovers and friends in the back. Often stab kin in the back also – observe what happens when the old man dies, and fights over the inheritance break out. Leftists lie, betray, and sometimes murder, in order to rob their brothers and sisters, sometimes even their parents and their children.

Can you imagine one of ours suckerpunching an Obama supporter to the enthusiastic cheers of everyone who voted against Obama? Reflect on the Yellow Hat incident – the video shows yellow hat being sucker punched, presumably because he formerly wore a Trump hat. There is just no way that could happen on our side. Nasty goings on when inheritance is being distributed always involve lefties behaving ruthlessly to close kin. Normal people generally cooperate with close kin. The rubbish and destruction left after left wing protests, as compared to the neatness and order of right wing protests. It is not like a ten percent greater likelihood of littering and vandalism, it is a thousand fold greater likelihood of littering and vandalism.

Lord Howe arranged for his men to die. The Victorian anti slaver movement committed perjury in court. Who kills commies? Commies kill commies. It is totally and completely one sided. Nazis, right wing dictators, right wing death squads kill hardly any commies by comparison. It is not like there is a ten percent greater tendency to murder their own, it is more like a thousand fold greater tendency to murder their own.

Would our people have produced something like the “10:10 no pressure” video?

The moral difference between lefties and normies is as clear as the trail of rubbish that they leave in their path.

Hostility to near is a key foundational principle of leftism, goes down all the way to friends, family, and political allies. Hence Lord Howe. If your commanding officer is a leftist and he orders you into danger, desert.

Leftism as an individual propensity is a propensity to game the systems for status, affiliation, alliance formation, and virtue signaling. Leftism as a movement is large scale organized gaming of the status, affiliation, and virtue signaling systems, and thus tends to work to the disadvantage of individual leftists. No friends to the right, no enemies to the left, means all your friends are your enemies and all your enemies are your friends, hence the greatest danger to leftists as members of a leftist movement is being murdered by their own movement.

If you are genuinely decent and conscientious, you are substantially less interested in cheap signals of decency and conscientiousness. Decent conscientious people are not attracted to whatever opinions are high status. People who want cheap ways of signaling decency and conscientiousness are attracted towards whatever opinions are high status.

Thus, observe …

Jim, Jim's Blog 8 Comments [4/9/2017 2:46:41 PM]
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Quote# 126158

Jesus Wins!

This just in, all across the country, today, people have elected Jesus to be their Lord. Jesus wins! What a tremendous victory in the Kingdom of God.

As far as I know, Jesus was not elected Mayor, Governor, Senator, or anything else on November 2nd. I’m not actually sure anyone voted for him at all. But that doesn’t make him a loser and it doesn’t make this site meaningless (a little silly, maybe). The point was never for Jesus to actually be elected. I’m not sure he wants to be the ruler of any man-made position in our governments.

But can you imagine it? Imagine a little town with two corrupt politicians running for Mayor. Out of their wits and out of their options, the people write in Jesus of Nazareth and he wins. What would they do? Would they go on about their way, acting as though he were as tangible as our wives or husbands or parents or friends? Can you imagine the swearing-in ceremony? I picture a silly situation where a Judge, the Honerable, holding a Bible, asks Jesus to put his right hand on it and swear to tell the truth and uphold justice. How can we ask the definition of truth and justice to swear by them? Can we swear by ourselves?

But I digress and start to daydream.

The position Jesus is to have in our lives as Christians is greater than the position held by our Judges, Mayors, Governors, Senators, and even Presidents. His Kingship is more intimate than all these and more supreme. If we cannot imagine him as our President, how can we imagine him as our Lord?

When I next go to vote, I will cast two votes. One ethereal from my heart and the other tangible with my hand. Both will be the write-in candidate Jesus of Nazareth.

Grant, Write in Jesus 23 Comments [4/9/2017 12:19:14 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 126154

The $ is the satanic S with a double strikethrough it, interesting. (in australia we use it too, and i've never heard that explanation before.... very interesting....)
Thanks Chris!?

Miss T, youtube 21 Comments [4/9/2017 12:18:17 AM]
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Quote# 126150

The tragic horrors of Hitler’s Germany came about not because one deranged man had delusions of grandeur but because generations of the German people—among the most highly educated in the world up to their time—embraced or at least failed to recognize the dangers of the underlying philosophy of Nazism and, through democratic vote, brought Hitler to power. Don’t ever think it could never happen here. It could, and environmentalism, with its soothing, feel-good message of ecological care, is the most likely path.

Megan Toombs, Cornwall Alliance 24 Comments [4/9/2017 12:16:43 AM]
Fundie Index: 10
Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 126149

Full Steam Ahead



Obama’s anemic economic plan of the pass eight yeas in already looking pathetic compared to Trump aggressive approach to the economy and jobs. Political Cartoon by A.F. Branco ©2017.

More A.F. Branco cartoons at Patriot Update here.

A.F. Branco, Comically Incorrect 31 Comments [4/9/2017 12:16:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 126147

The breast is an organ that was originally designed by God to allow for female humans and primates (humans are NOT primates, contrary to the fundamental beliefs of Darwinism) to feed milk to their young. This seemingly innocuous organ, much like others, was corrupted by sin. Sin is known for allowing things like lions killing animals to eat them, instead of the animal kingdom living in harmony.
"Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience"- Colossians 3:5-6
"But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away"- Isaiah 64:6
The fall of man is notable because it has caused sin to come into the world, and rampant sin has occupied every last inch of land on the globe. Breasts, which were and still are organs designed to feed infants, have been corrupted by Satan to cause sickening men and particularly apostate women to lust after them as some sort of sexual object. Satan knows this, and Satan therefore spawned the evil succubus Taylor Swift to corrupt young men into the wicked ways of the flesh, and Satan did so by giving Taylor Swift perfectly circular and perky breasts that she flaunts at every possible moment in these low-cut outfits that are wastes of fabric that would have been better used to clothe naked children in Africa than to accommodate the lustful desires of sick minded perverts who subvert the will and the name of God to fit their own agenda.
The breasts of human females, much like thorns in gardens and predatory lions, shows that sin has the power to corrupt the good things that God created.

James Wilson, Conservatism Wiki 35 Comments [4/9/2017 12:16:01 AM]
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Quote# 126146

Jesus has given me His authority. I am His ambassador to His world (Kingdom) here on earth.

I fully represent Jesus. If this world rejects Jesus they reject God who sent Him.

Jesus calls on me, in fact demands of me, to get this deep in my soul. When I command things to happen, in the name of Jesus, they happen.

I represent Him. Lock, stock and barrel. No doubts about it. Jesus said so.

The one who listens to you, listens to me. The one who rejects you, rejects me. And rejecting me is the same as rejecting God, who sent me. ~Jesus
Luke 10:16

Michael Wilson in God is God, God Thoughts,  Quotes, thoughts and musings  18 Comments [4/9/2017 12:15:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 126144

(He's talking about the fleur de lis)
By far the most underrated symbol being used today by Satan. Few know about it and even fewer talk about it. I learned of the power of this symbol when a demon manifested and told me that it would not leave a person as long as this symbol remains on the wall in their home. This symbol has made its way onto home goods, furniture, architecture,clothing, jewelry, and more. This is no mistake.

Chris LaSala, youtube 13 Comments [4/8/2017 2:03:42 PM]
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Submitted By: P.E.T.F

Quote# 126138

How does your favorite singer or movie actor measure up to the Word of God? Here's a partial list of entertainers who are pulling on the same rope as the Devil...

Aaliyah
Adriana Sklenarikova
Ali Landry
Alicia Keys
Alyssa Milano
Angela Lindvall
Angelina Jolie
Anna Kournikova
Anna Paquin
Ashanti
Ashley Judd
Avril Lavigne
Backstreet Boys
Ben Affleck
Beyonce Knowles
Brad Pitt
Britney Spears
Cameron Diaz
Caprice Bourret
Carmen Electra
Carrie-Anne Moss
Charlize Theron
Christina Aguilera
Christina Ricci
Christy Turlington
Cindy Crawford
Claudia Schiffer
Conan O'Brien
Daisy Fuentes
Daniela Pestova
Demi Moore
Donald Trump
Denise Richards
Drew Barrymore
Eliza Dushku
Elizabeth Hurley
Elsa Benitez
Eminem
Estella Warren
Faith Hill
Famke Janssen
Frank Sinatra
Gabrielle Reece
Gabrielle Union
Gena Lee Nolin
Gene Simmons
Gillian Anderson
Gisele Bundchen
Gwen Stefani
Gwyneth Paltrow
Halle Berry
Heidi Klum
Howard Stern
Jaime Pressly
James King
Jay Leno
Jennifer Aniston
Jennifer Garner
Jennifer Lopez
Jennifer Love Hewitt
Jenny McCarthy
Jeri Ryan
Jessica Alba
Jessica Simpson
Johnny Depp
Julia Roberts
Julia Stiles
Kate Hudson
Katherine Heigl
Keanu Reeves
Kelly Hu
Keri Russell
Kid Rock
Kim Bassinger
Kirsten Dunst
Kylie Minogue
Laetitia Casta
LeAnn Rimes
Leelee Sobieski
Liv Tyler
Lucy Lawless
Lucy Liu
Madonna
Mandy Moore
Mariah Carey
Matt Damon
Mena Suvari
Michael Jackson
Michelle Branch
Michelle Trachtenberg
Minnie Driver
Monica Bellucci
Nadja Auermann
Nancy Sinatra
Naomi Campbell
Nicole Kidman
Orlando Bloom
Ozzy Osbourne
Pamela Anderson
Paris Hilton
Reba McEntire
Sharon Stone
Toni Braxton
Victoria Silvstedt
Viggo Mortensen
Virginie Ledoyen
Vivica A Fox
Yamila Diaz
Patricia Arquette
Pink
Rachael Leigh Cook
Rebecca Gayheart
Rebecca Romijn-Stamos
Reese Witherspoon
Rena Mero (Sable)
Renee Zellweger
Ricky Martin
Salma Hayek
Sandra Bullock
Shakira
Shania Twain
Sophie Marceau
Sung Hi Lee
Thandie Newton
Tiffani-AmberThiessen
Tiny Turner
Tom Cruise

Do their tight clothing and sensual gyrations express the love of God or the works of the devil? Do the lyrics in their songs glorify God or sex and sensuality? Does the way they dress make you sing praises to God or think about sex? They are all of the devil and you know it. Some singers come right out and praise Satan. This world is fast going over a moral waterfall. The New World Order is here. The microchips are already here and WILL be implanted into every human being at some point in the future. Those who resist will be punished. Christians and patriots will be arrested, persecuted and even executed.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 49 Comments [4/8/2017 2:00:53 PM]
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Quote# 126136

zionism,christianity and satanism is interlocked,also communism and nazism.
(Huh?)

CATSUITBODYSUIT , Deviantart 5 Comments [4/8/2017 1:59:53 PM]
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Quote# 126135

[Royce is defending the Bible's prohibition on eating things that have four legs and "creep"]

Arthur Belling:
All ants have six legs.

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
Well, you're in good company! You're the fourth one on here thus far who enjoys publicly showing their ignorance. See comments above about the simplicity of Google and the inexcusable behavior and laziness for not making the effort to so a simple search.

Arthur Belling:
I did use Google. The difference is, I paid attention to what it said and you didn't.

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
Wrong. Another lie from the Liar.

Arthur Belling:
Ants have six legs, Royce E. Van Blaricome. You lose this one.

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
Nope. Another lie from the Liar. As I've repeatedly said on here - "Not all of them" and a simple Google search for "four-legged ants" proves it.

You LOSE!! But thank you for showing everyone again your stubborn rebellion to the Truth and preference for Denial over Truth. Not to mention willful determination to continue to spread a LIE. That's what Evolutionists do though. So I understand.

Ambulance Chaser:
"A simple Google search for '4-legged ants'" turns up an article about ants with mutations that they have to overcome, not some species of any that has 4 legs.

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
Another lie. The search takes you directly to the Myrmecos site (that's about ANTS) and there is NO mention of it being a mutation.

And btw, for anyone else reading this. Here's the typical tactic of the God-haters. They take a Biblical text and try to destroy it with false claims.

Then, when that fails, they try to Distract and Divert the conversation with more false claims like "ants with mutations not a species". Does the Biblical text say anything about "species"? NO. That's their insertion.

Furthermore, they focus in on the ants thinking that if they can prove that wrong, all their other claims are true as well, when the same Google search shows - as does my earlier statements - that there ARE OTHER four-legged insects too.

And lastly, they make the moronic ASSUMPTION that what we have today must be what was present at the time the Bible text was written!!! Oh, and absolutely laughably, all the while holding to the Bible isn't true but Evolution is!!

So they believe things involve but don't give any room for the possibility that ants and other insects evolved from four legs to six.

Hopefully that helps bring into a sharper focus just how moronic and willfully blinded these folks are.

And btw, THAT doesn't even take into consideration a proper reading and understanding of the Biblical text. THAT is just pure inability and/or unwillingness to exercise simple reasoning.

Royce E. Van Blaricome, Christian News Network 18 Comments [4/8/2017 1:59:47 PM]
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Quote# 126131

Abortion is a horrible and unnecessary evil

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 12 Comments [4/8/2017 1:58:49 PM]
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Submitted By: P.E.T.F

Quote# 126129

I tell ya folks, nerds are one of the most dangerous groups in this country, because they're gonna end up running things, but they still hate everybody, because they weren't the jocks in high school, so they play little dirty games on everybody. [begins pointing to head] They use their brains to hurt people. And I'm aware of them. Ok, I'mma — I SEE YOU, YOU LITTLE RATS!

Alex Jones, Youtube 29 Comments [4/8/2017 5:04:53 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 126128

Anyone who’s lived a day in his life (or played summer football in a city park or worked out at a vibrant gym) has noticed that different races have different musculature and athletic talent. Blacks are the most ripped, and often the biggest, particularly in the deltoids and lats. They respond the fastest to resistance training and are amazingly agile on their feet, (something you have to marvel at the first time a black guy with the ball makes a cut around you).

Whites are the most varied, ranging from nerd skinny to hulking well-marbled powerlifter. Few whites can get as defined as blacks, so you really become aware of those white guys who do manage to carve their abs and delts well past the norm for their race. Whites also have wider waists than blacks, and tend to stockiness, although this is far from a universal white trait.

Asians are the slightest and the least toned, and are less varied in appearance than either blacks or whites, (although asian sub-groups, like Koreans, who hit the gym hard can become quite strong in compound movements like the squat that leverage their naturally lower center of gravity and shorter limbs).

Hispanics (or amerindians, if you prefer) resemble their asian progenitors in muscle tone, but not in gracility. And depending on how you define “hispanic”, their physical variance is either very large (think Spanish-Cuban vs Mestizo) or very small (the round mamacita millions).

All these racial differences in physique are far more noticeable in younger men (and women) than in older representatives, owing primarily to the fact that most people of any race get fatter and looser with age, the biological upkeep of their sexual dimorphism becoming less relevant beyond reproductive age, and this symptom of aging is greatly exacerbated by the Western obesity plague, especially in black women who get so enormously fat soon after leaving high school that you’d need a team of archaeologists to excavate evidence of their buried female form.

So, you’d have to be blind or a self-deluding status whoring SWPL leftoid to not notice these differences.

For a while, curious noticers wondering what accounted for their observations would assume that testosterone had something to do with it. After all, T and T mimics are injected by bodybuilders to build huge blocks of muscle. Naturally, one infers that the less muscular-looking races (if not necessarily the less strong) have lower levels of testosterone in their blood.

CH, Chateau Heartiste 10 Comments [4/8/2017 5:04:50 AM]
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Quote# 126125

Cleric Islam tells the viewers “that the Church worship originated in worship of the penis. This is documented in dozens of pictures. Let me tell you something…it’s indecent, but true. Take a look at a picture of Jesus and you’ll see a penis, right there (he strokes his right side)…Or is it on this side? (He points to his left side and back to the right side) Oh, it’s the right side…A penis, right here. There are many pictures like this. They worship it.”

The Cleric continues with claims about Christian women: “(Christian women) raise cats and dogs as a substitute for husbands. They train their dogs to play the husband. I swear to God, I am not lying. They buy dogs for this purpose. They train dogs to play the husband of them. Christian women do that.”



Abu Islam, Before It's News 15 Comments [4/8/2017 5:04:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Hu's On First

Quote# 126124

Well, African Christians are a special breed of stupid. And they're the main reason why the continent is such a shithole.

NeoMatrix, FSDT 20 Comments [4/8/2017 5:04:12 AM]
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Quote# 126123

Christians hate us and consider us evil anyway, so there's no point trying to be anything else.

NeoMatrix, FSDT 9 Comments [4/8/2017 5:04:09 AM]
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Quote# 126120



Sadly, everyone was NOT created equal.

Make It All Great Again, Facebook 19 Comments [4/8/2017 5:03:56 AM]
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Submitted By: Hu's On First

Quote# 126118

Cow milk is not nutritious for humans....where did you get this propaganda from??


Ben Mac, Youtube 15 Comments [4/8/2017 5:03:41 AM]
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Quote# 126117

[(comment on a SciShow video about tornadoes in America)]

Screw your sciencey bullspit. It's the gods I say. They are angry because we pretty much committed genocide on an entire people under the guise of helping them. Viola: Tornado.?


N Yodeler, Youtube 12 Comments [4/8/2017 5:03:35 AM]
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Quote# 126116

[A Malaysian politician wanted to legalize kiddie marriage]

@JeanP


"I hope he is under investigation and that each female acquintance has been listed and under protection"

Absolutely will not happen. This is standard muslim theology supported by Koran verses and hadiths. It's as likely as a Christian being sent to the funny farm for claiming there are 3 gods and 1 god simultaneously.

Mister Spak, FSTDT 5 Comments [4/8/2017 5:03:04 AM]
Fundie Index: 1
Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 126115

Well, Muslims are pedos, so of course they're gonna legalize pedophilia. They're sick fucks like that.

NeoMatrix, FSTDT 8 Comments [4/8/2017 5:02:59 AM]
Fundie Index: 11
Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 126114

Matt most kindly sent me something this morning to wake up. I’ll have to thank him later. If you have theological nerves of steel, you can go read all about how Ms. Jory Micah, with her ‘husband by her side’ is going to be packing up and moving to start a church. Here’s a taste of what you can expect if you decide to join up with them.

"God gave me the name, “The Table.” It will be a ministry that will start in our small apartment somewhere in the heart of the city, and we will invite whoever God sends our way. Luke and I feel that Jesus calls Christians to reach out especially to the marginalized, broken, left out, poor, and oppressed of society. So practically speaking, Luke and I look forward to inviting minorities, homeless people, college students away from their homes, lgbtq people who have been abandoned by their families, immigrants, single moms, widows, refugees, and really anyone who is hungry for food, conversation, and love, to our table once a week. We will invite Jesus each week to be our host. We think He will show up. We think this is exactly the sort of “church” Jesus hangs out in. Anyone and everyone is invited to Jesus’ table. The worst of the worst sinners are invited to sit among those who seem to understand how to walk out a holy life better than others. No one has to repent to sit at Jesus’ table. Everyone can come, sit, eat, drink, belong, and be loved, just as they are."

How will this be, given that it won’t have any marks of the Church? How will this incredible work be accomplished?

"You see, it is at Jesus’ table that each of us is transformed. As we sit with Him, and one another, love changes us from the inside out, and something happens. We find freedom. We find renewal. We find redemption. We find resurrection. We find God."

Wow. That’s so great. Sign me up. A repentance free church where we basically all just come together for dinner and a chat about our thoughts and feelings about God. Where, in the course of all the chatting and all the feelings, God affirms our deepest longings and hopes and dreams and destiny, and then a beautiful shiny purplish unicorn comes trotting through the door and kisses each lost soul on the forehead and says, ‘Ms. Jory Micah, you shall go to the ball.’

See, if you made it through her whole post, you would have discovered that this “church” (with all the scare quotes I can muster from every corner) is not about the old passé stuff that all those other boring churches are about–Jesus, Christianity, the gospel. It’s about Ms. Micah feeling left out of the church for her whole life. It’s about her sense of call to be a minister, about her having no official affirmation of that call. It’s about her disappointment and frustration. She describes herself as a ‘sad puppy’ looking for a church that will really feel like home. Everywhere she goes she just doesn’t really fit.

I initially felt really sad as I read about how homeless and unrooted she is. But then I began to attend to the reasons she and her husband just don’t "fit in." Reasons like, "In other words, Luke and I are dedicated to listening to the stories of the powerless, in a world that silences and oppresses those who are poor, voiceless, marginalized, excluded, and loveless."

And, "Our hearts burn for social justice in both the Church and in society."

You know, because all the dumb rubes sitting in regular pews on Sunday don’t care about the powerless, the marginalized, the poor. The church has literally never, in two thousand years, thought of those people. The church, see, was all confused, and thought it was just about the Beautiful and the Awesome and the Rich. Color me dubious. I’ve been to a lot of churches and I have yet to meet these jerks who care nothing for Other People.

Let’s read a little further. In all the care and anxiety for the downtrodden, we find this, "We have always searched for ways to combine our passions, but we have struggled to find a church home in which we feel our unique combination of gifts are seen and appreciated."

And this delightful gem, "Perhaps that is why we have such a heart for those who feel left out: because we know what it is like to have much to offer the Church and world, but to go unnoticed by those with influence and power."

And there we have it. Ms. Micah is the one who feels herself to be persecuted. She is the "marginalized." This is really all about her.

So, just to refresh ourselves so we know where we are. Jory Micah has, from the age of 13, known herself to be called to be a minister in the church. Jesus told her this and there is no moving her off this important divine revelation. She’s received some kind of theological education. She’s found herself a husband who will properly submit to her. And yet Still there is no church body that will affirm her incredible awesome call. So finally, having had enough, she’s going to start one herself, one that won’t even really be called a church…except that it Very Much Will, and it will be better than all those other stupid churches out there that haven’t recognized her great heart and great gifts.

So, I do have some real sympathy for Ms. Micah.
Skirting away from my great huge desire to say, "bless her heart," I want to remind Jory that, most tragically, the church is not about her. It’s not about any of us. None of us have the right to patter in an demand recognition and jobs because of how fantastic we are. Not a single person in church gets to be the center of it all and have accolades and triumphs. That’s not what it’s for.

The church, shockingly, is about Jesus. And the thing he cares most about is people, ordinary people, coming to hear about his saving work on the cross. The church is about Jesus. He doesn’t just come ‘hang out’ there. He doesn’t just sort of sit back and bless whatever we feel like doing. The church is his bride. It is the body of people he gathers and rescues from death to keep safe with him forever. It belongs to him, and so it has to listen to him and do whatever he says. Even the things he says In The Bible.

I must say, I’m sort of encouraged that somehow Ms. Micah has run up against a brick wall in her calling to be a "pastor." I have to wonder why she hasn’t yet checked out the Episcopal church, cough, although I wouldn’t wish having to cope with her on mine own enemy. She sounds deeply troubled and power hungry–the two things from which all sane church leadership runs screaming away.

And one final thing (although, don’t worry, there is a very high chance I will be saying more about this tomorrow) in the spirit of casting my bread upon the waters. Ms. Micah doesn’t have time for repentance and the traditional marks of the church in her headlong rush to fashion the church into the likeness of herself, but she might be surprised to find that Jesus himself, that wondrous man, could be enough for her when all other men have failed. He’s not going to congratulate her for being wonderful, but he can remove the incredibly burdensome trial of her ego, he can forgive her sin and show her the way of life. It is very hard to take the narrow, the unacclaimed way, the unknown way, the bitter way of the loss of the self that leads to eternal life. I hope you’ll join me in praying for her, and her husband, and the people they happen to meet, that God will break in and surprise them with the goodness of his Son.


Anne Kennedy, Patheos 10 Comments [4/8/2017 5:02:54 AM]
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