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Quote# 126654

A man over time has a natural tendency to become bored with his own wife. When the Bible speaks of the "strange" woman, it speaks of the woman who is not your wife. Surely, "Bread of deceit is sweet to a man; but afterwards his mouth shall be filled with gravel" (Proverb 20:17). I will speak candidly here (and I will not be dogmatic). I do not believe it is a sin to practice polygamy. Hebrews 13:4 condemn adulterers and whoremongers, not marriage. God gave David Saul's wives (2nd Samuel 12:8). God never changes (Malachi 3:6). If polygamy was allowed in the Old Testament, it is allowable today. Unfortunately, modern heathen society will recognize sodomite relationships and fornication, but polygamy (marriage) is condemned.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 25 Comments [4/25/2017 10:49:03 AM]
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Quote# 126653

Religious Right groups are encouraging conservative Christian high school and college students this week to counter last Friday’s “Day of Silence” with a “Day of Dialogue” promoting traditional views on sexuality.

Religious Right organizations have long been hostile toward the Day of Silence, a project of pro-LGBTQ group GLSEN that encourages students to take a vow of silence during a Friday in April. This year’s Day of Silence, the 21st annual observation of the day, was last Friday, April 21, and was supported by social media campaigns and celebrity participation. Says GLSEN, “This quiet but powerful, student-led action raises awareness about the silencing effect of anti-LGBT bullying, harassment and discrimination.”

But Religious Right groups charge that it stigmatizes students who hold a traditionalist view of what the Bible says about gender, sexuality, and marriage. Last year, for example, the American Family Association urged parents to keep their children home if the Day of Silence was being observed in their school. As this year’s Day of Silence approached, dozens of Religious Right groups endorsed a “Day of Silence Walk Out” campaign, denouncing “this hijacking of the classroom for political purposes.”

Focus on the Family is promoting another response, a “Day of Dialogue” scheduled for Friday, April 28. Focus on the Family calls the Day of Dialogue “a free speech event for students” that “creates a safe space for students to express a biblical viewpoint in a loving and grace-filled manner.” Focus on the Family started sponsoring the Day of Dialogue in 2010 when Exodus International decided to drop its version, the Day of Truth.

The guide for parents and pastors promotes the Day of Dialogue as an opportunity “to encourage students that they have nothing to be ashamed of when expressing their deeply held biblical convictions.” It includes a PowerPoint presentation that youth pastors and others can use to encourage students to participate.

The student guide asks, “Do you wish your classmates could hear more of the story—like the truth about God’s deep love for us and what the Bible really says about His redemptive design for human relationships? Wouldn’t it be nice if a deeper and freer conversation could happen when controversial sexual topics are brought up in your school?” When it comes to the rights and dignity of LGBT people, history suggests that such reasonable-sounding “live and let live” rhetoric from Religious Right groups should be taken with a big grain of salt.

The Day of Dialogue tells students to remain “respectful and loving” if someone responds in anger, while “remaining confident and bold in communicating your perspective and standing firm on your First Amendment right to share it.” The student guide includes a legal memo from Alliance Defending Freedom clarifying students’ rights to share their religious beliefs with fellow students.

Students are encouraged to distribute “conversation cards” that include a testimony about Jesus and a pledge to oppose bullying. The card ends with, “I also believe God cares about us so much that He designed the best, loving plan for our relationships and sexuality. Let’s talk about it.”

Among the “conversation starters” are materials on the “complementary qualities” of men and women. Focus on the Family assures students that God “has a special place in His heart for people who messed up sexually” and can heal and transform “sexual brokenness.”

Focus on the Family, Right Wing Watch 23 Comments [4/25/2017 10:48:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 126652

Why Queers Should Care About Sex Offenders
By Andrew Extein, MSW


“So, how are the pedophiles doing?”

As a group psychotherapist for convicted sex offenders on parole and probation who also operates a private practice for queer people, I am bombarded with comments and questions from friends and family:

“Aren’t you scared?”

“I could never do that.”

“What’s it like to talk to all those child molesters?”

At first I was surprised to hear some of my most educated, liberal friends ask questions that were, to me, biased and misinformed. I had assumed that, as queers and allies, my friends would have a greater sensitivity to the persecution sex offenders face in American society. I have since come to realize that queer folk are not more prone to find empathy for this population.

I often find myself feeling defensive, and almost guilty, in the line of such questioning. “So... why are you interested in them?” they ask, a look of distaste on their faces.

Here’s the thing: I don’t consider “them” my bizarre, special interest. All queer people are invested in the plight of sex offenders, whether they like it or not.

Deviance and the Dangers of Othering

Although I studied many subjects in college, my interest especially aligned with the radical thinking of my queer theories coursework. Queer theory obliterates the idea of good and bad sex and what should and should not be deemed deviant. As such, my courses covered gay history, the timeline of the gay rights movements, queer theory, and the burgeoning transgender studies, as well as genderqueers, kink, sexual fluidity, and asexuality.

But there was a strange silence in these class discussions as well. As my education continued, I began thinking about other people who transgressed cultural norms of sexuality, other people whose sexual desires had been labeled deviant — people who even queer theory courses weren’t talking about. There might be no group more maligned, marginalized, and disconcerting as modern-day America’s “sex offenders.”

In treatment, lawmaking, and cultural discourse, sex offenders are referred to as participating in deviant sexual behavior, having deviant sexual fantasies, and being inherently “deviant” themselves. From one angle, this is true; all sex offenders have deviated from the boundaries of one or more laws regarding sex or the body.

But sociologist Joel Best describes the problematic nature of how the term “deviance” is used in our culture. In his book Deviance, he emphasizes that “a deviant label was simply a sign that some groups with power had singled out some acts or conditions for disapproval.” The term means that, according to the rules of a powerful few, something is inherently wrong with you if you are not like everybody else. In other words, deviance becomes a viral social construct that serves as a moral imperative to dictate and intimidate people into behaving.

Queer theory has well documented how those in power have employed the terminology of deviance to oppress queers. In recent history, society has labeled gays, lesbians, and transgender folk as abnormal, problematic, and threatening. Gay men, for instance, threatened to lure, groom, and convert children into the homosexual lifestyle; they were not to be trusted or validated. At one point, they were considered mentally ill and criminal. Sex between consenting adult males was illegal and morally reprehensible and served to mandate a gay man to a mental hospital or jail cell. Gay men and trans people socially congregating in bars, such as at Stonewall, was a valid reason for police to raid, frisk, and arrest mass numbers of them.

This is an important part of history that needs to be retold, to serve as a reminder of what happens when authorities dictate the lives and behaviors of “deviant” populations. In fact, this history is still among us; trans, gay, and queer people are currently arrested and incarcerated at a rate disproportionate to the general population. In this infographic, the Sylvia Rivera Law Project outlines how trans and gender-nonconforming people are at a high risk of incarceration, police harassment, and violence. Despite the existence of these contemporary systems of inequality, I worry that in the era of gay marriage, pinkwashing, and assimilatory LGBT politics, we queers may be forgetting the dangers of othering.

Because there’s no use mincing words here: The same methods historically used by the government to imprison and pathologize homosexuality and gender variation are being used today to justify the extreme marginalization, lifetime institutionalization, and oppression of people who have violated sex laws. Sex offenders are the new queers.

Who Sex Offenders Are and What We Are Doing to Them

There is a widespread assumption that all sex offenders are child molesters, pedophiles, and violent rapists. This is not true. A large spectrum of acts are considered sex offenses. These include public nudity, urinating in public, public masturbation, peeping, photographing or videotaping without consent, consensual sex with a 17-year-old, sexting, and downloading unlawful pornography; many of these acts will put the offender on the public registry. There is no single “type” of sex offender; they can be from any walk of life, and any race, class, gender, or sexuality. They are fathers, mothers, brothers, teachers, and friends.

Let me be clear: I am not advocating for the legitimization of these acts as appropriate. A forceful, coercive, violent sexual assault is not to be tolerated. But I am saying that the public perception of the sex offender, and of the laws violated to become a sex offender, is inaccurate.

It is also important to explain the ramifications of this label. In California, many sex offenders must be publicly profiled for life on the online registry created as a result of Megan’s Law in 2004. In 2006, Jessica’s Law increased the penalties for sex offenders, created a residency restriction of 2,000 feet from parks and schools, and mandated GPS tracking for felony offenders. Chelsea’s Law further tightened the restrictions and increased monitoring.

The Supreme Court recently upheld a law that allows for the indefinite civil commitment of those sex offenders deemed unfit to reenter society. This means that they are placed in a forensic mental hospital for the rest of their lives, or until it is decided that they have been appropriately rehabilitated. Very few of these people have been released from civil commitment.

As a treatment provider for sex offenders, I have seen the effects of these punishments firsthand. One of the main issues faced is homelessness. According to the California Sex Offender Management Board, the number of homeless registrants rose from 88 to 6,012 in the five years after Jessica’s Law was enacted. It is almost impossible to find steady work as a felon, and especially difficult if you are listed on the public registry, photo and all. The sex offenders that I see have been socially ostracized, often by family and friends, and suffer from mental health issues such as depression, anxiety, and post-traumatic stress disorder as a result. GPS units, parole visits, and yearly registration serve as constant reminders of their crimes, their victims, and their newfound labels as deviants with no hope of recovery.

However, it is a misconception that the majority of sex offenders reoffend, as the actual number is around 2 to 5 percent for recidivism from a sex crime. A 2008 study by the California Sex Offender Management Board reports 3.38 percent of sex offenders released in 1997 and 1998 were convicted of a new sex offense in the decade after release. A far larger number reenter the prison system as a result of parole violations, an understandable sum considering the severity and rigidity of parole terms.

The sex offender treatment models currently in use are mostly based in cognitive behavioral therapy, helping offenders reevaluate their thoughts and beliefs and make healthier decisions to reduce risk of reoffense. Despite this good-natured approach, these treatment models still speak of sexual deviance. One manual recommends ammonia aversion therapy, in which the offender repeatedly inhales ammonia while reciting his most “deviant” sexual fantasies. The intended goal — to rid the offender of whatever sexual desire is deemed unhealthy or deviant by the treatment provider — echoes gay conversion therapy methods. If queer theory allows for one’s right to a diversity of sexual desire, shouldn’t we question the “reprogramming” of an offender’s sexual feelings?

The main problem with the ammonia aversion therapy is that it presupposes that the sexual feelings motivate and explain the crime. It assumes that if you rid the sexual desire, then you rid the possibility of criminal sexual activity; sexual feelings are understood as uncontrollable dictators of sexual activity. If a man has sexual feelings for children, it is assumed that he is at a high risk of nonconsensual contact with a child. As such, sex offender treatment emphasizes sexual desire as a motivator for a sex crime over other factors, such as low impulse control, a history of trauma, lack of social support, and emotional instability. “Deviant” sexual desire is thereby equated with criminal sexual activity. This is a dangerous stance, as it heightens paranoia and fear in our culture’s understanding of all abnormal sexual feeling, thought, fantasy, belief, or identity.

Why Queers Should Care

Any queer person should feel a pang of familiarity reading about the vilification of people based on sexual desire. At one point, the idea of the predatory, untamable homosexual was a widely held belief; the very fact that a man would think of desiring another man was reason enough to criminalize his existence. Whether growing up in the early 20th century or the early 21st century, a cultural condemnation of queer desire, affect, and identity is consistently reaffirmed.

While mainstream cultural perception of queer people is shifting, it affirms monogamous sex between married, consenting gay and lesbian adults. Gender variation and other forms of sexual desire and behavior, including heterosexual female desire outside of monogamy, still face condemnation. If queerness is teetering on the edge of what culture says is deviant, othered, or wrong, an alliance across marginalized communities is vital for acquisition and maintenance of civil liberties for all.

I need to emphasize that many sex offenders are queer themselves. Many gay men, lesbians, and trans women are labeled sex offenders as a result of survival sex, prostitution, cruising, and public sex. Many queer people don’t realize the legal risks associated with a number of cultural behaviors that have become somewhat normalized, such as public cruising.


A recent example of criminalizing queer relationships is the case of Kaitlyn Hunt. Kaitlyn is a now-18-year-old girl who is being charged with two counts of lewd and lascivious battery of a child resulting from an allegedly consensual relationship with her 15-year-old girlfriend. The Internet has seen a groundswell of support for Kaitlyn, finding her persecution homophobic, unfair, and misguided. This reaction is certainly warranted and points to a larger issue with age-of-consent legislation. This type of legal action takes place all the time, in all types of communities, resulting in new sex offenders to label, monitor, and vilify. The case of Kaitlyn Hunt should open our eyes to the ways in which sex laws are abused in our country — not just for queers but for everyone.

The people we have labeled sex offenders are a multifarious group, with a wide spectrum of sexual desires. Empathy is needed for the group as a whole to ensure that they do not continue to be the cultural pariahs that we queers, gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and transgender folk once were, and arguably still are. If we allow for the continuation of inhumane imprisonment based on what dominant culture and the government deem “bad sex,” we put ourselves at risk of further condemnation.

Clearly this is a tricky, complex, and imperfect dialogue to be holding. But I fear that if we queers do not engage in conversations about moral gray areas and uncomfortable topics, we put ourselves at risk and lose the fervor, innovation, and critical thinking that once defined queerness.

Andrew Extein, Huffington Post 14 Comments [4/25/2017 10:48:47 AM]
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Quote# 126650

You can’t be serious as an Orthodox Jew and support the ‘gay’ agenda.

Brian Camenker, Life Site News 9 Comments [4/25/2017 10:44:35 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 126649

1. "I don't need to prove it .. the medical and science communities already have."
Citation please, proving that a human fetus is not a human being. Hint: you will not find that proof in any scientific journals.

2. No, what you said was the decision to abort was never an easy one. That is only true because everyone knows, deep down, that abortion kills a human who is not worthy of the death penalty.

3. Well, then did you know that more black babies are killed by abortion every 4 days than all of the blacks lynched by the KKK in 150 years?

4. Stop deflecting. Many of the arguments you have made in favor of abortion, including "rights" and "privacy" were precisely those made in favor of slavery.

Blacks didn't choose to be slaves, Jews didn't choose to be gassed, and babies don't choose to be aborted.

By your definition of "slavery" = telling a woman she cannot kill her preborn child, you would claim that the abolitionists telling plantation owners that they cannot own black people is "slavery" because it takes away the "rights" of slaveowners.

There is no "right" to do a wrong. Slavery and abortion are both wrongs.

Your arguments based on legality were also mimicked by slaveowners. Slavery was 100% legal just as abortion is now 100% legal. That does not make either moral however.

Those of us who are anti-abortion care tremendously about both the woman and the child - we believe that both humans have intrinsic moral value. But, those who support abortion "rights" seem to ignore the child completely and place absolutely zero value on him or her. I do not see how that view is consistent with human rights, especially when the science is settled on the humanity of the preborn child / human / baby. You yourself admitted that YOU were once a ZEF. Well, those 3000 ZEF's being killed today are "YOU's" too, worthy of our protection. Those are real people being offed.

Your admission that even in a life of the mother case, abortion is an "agonizing decision" is made precisely because you know full well that a human being with intrinsic moral value is being intentionally killed through abortion. It would not be "agonizing" if we could know for sure that the ZEF has zero intrinsic moral value.

WorldGoneCrazy-NotMurderedYet, Live Action News 4 Comments [4/25/2017 10:44:03 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 126646

Western Sodomites are trying to destroy the insitution of human marriage altogether. If one could marry to a same-sex member, he or she could marry to anyone or to anything in any way, and anything can be called marriage, which dissolves the marriage itself. Post-christian West's purpose and agenda is abolishment of the truth so they could pursue all kinds of depravity and enslave mankind. Once people submit to the Western Sodomism, they are always slaves to the Western pervs. Childless but well-fed West is being bored about life and is seeking some real evil warped amusement by making the serious others suffer by forcing a falsehood on earth, because they know they have no future. It's all written in the Holy Bible.

Grace Kim Kwon, Christian News Network 7 Comments [4/25/2017 10:43:30 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 126645

[Definition of the term "Hillary"]

Hillary

God's Gift to those Idiots that cannot see through this Liar. What a Lying Bitch. Every other word out of her mouth is a Lie she'd make a great president if we needed a Liar for a president.
# 1 What A Hillary Liar

# 2 Wow you could be a Hillary
# 3 If you want to be like a Hillary just Lie.
# 4 If you want to be a President just follow Hillary's foot steps and Lie.


LIAR LIAR 2016, UrbanDictionary 13 Comments [4/25/2017 10:42:26 AM]
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Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 126644

www.livingwaters.com
"Jews laugh at Christianity."

Jesus was Jewish. The disciples were Jewish. The first 13,000 converts were Jewish, Christianity was birthed in the land of the Jews, the New Testament was written by Jews, and Christians believe that the Jewish scriptures are God's Word. I'm Jewish, and any Jew who believes the God-breathed Old Testament will embrace Jesus of Nazareth as their promised Messiah.

Ray Comfort , Facebook 11 Comments [4/25/2017 10:42:17 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 126641

“What if I ask God to reveal Himself and it turns out to be Allah?”

Then you are in bigger trouble, because Islam also believes in Hell, but they have no Savior.

Ray Comfort, Ray Comfort's Facebook page 29 Comments [4/25/2017 4:40:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 126637

Tangent002:
The SCOTUS did not make law at all, they confirmed that laws cannot restrict the basic right of marriage guaranteed by the Constitution. The decision is that same-sex marriage has always been legal.

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
Wrong. The Law says otherwise.

Tangent002:
Which law?

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
1923 Uniform Marriage and Marriage License Act

Bob Johnson:
No such law. The Uniform Law Commission provides states with draft legislation, which states then may modify before passing into law. States are not required to use the draft language and most states heavily modify the draft before adoption.

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
Wrong. The Committee on Marriage & Divorce of the Commissioners on Uniform State Laws first started the Draft in 1911. In 1913 Marriage was first defined as a "husband and wife". In 1923 the Act was Federally Enacted. While there were many things left up to the states and allowed some variations on some things there were also some things that were required and if violated could result in fines and/or imprisonment.

What's important to note is that it was uniformly accepted at BOTH the State AND Federal level that a Marriage was between ONE MAN and ONE WOMAN.

Ambulance Chaser:
If it was "federally enacted," you should be able to direct me to the exact location in the United States Code that codifies it.

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
I gave up a long time ago directing your toward anything but the Lord Jesus Christ.

Now, if you would like to surrender your life as a slave to the Lord Jesus Christ and accept Him as your new Lord & Master to live for His glory and beg Him to save your sorry, sinful, behind to save you from eternal torment in the Lake of Fire and spend ALL Eternity with the desire to glorify Him...

I'd be more than happy to direct you in how to do so.

Ambulance Chaser:
So, you're saying you CAN'T back up your statement? It really shouldn't be that hard. The entire US Code is available online.

Royce E. Van Blaricome::
Still having a problem with English I see. Let's see if repeating myself helps. No, what I said was:

"I gave up a long time ago directing your toward anything but the Lord Jesus Christ.

Now, if you would like to surrender your life as a slave to the Lord Jesus Christ and accept Him as your new Lord & Master to live for His glory and beg Him to save your sorry, sinful, behind to save you from eternal torment in the Lake of Fire and spend ALL Eternity with the desire to glorify Him...

I'd be more than happy to direct you in how to do so."

But hey, thanks again for showing everyone you're nothing but a God-hating troll trying to stir up stuff on a CHRISTIAN page.

Ambulance Chaser:
You can't keep running and hiding behind "this is a Christian page" every time you find yourself out of your depth. If you're going to make assertions about earthly topics, you're going to need to be able to provide the earthly explanations for them.

So I'll ask you one last time, where is this supposed law codified? Where can I find it?

Royce E. Van Blaricome:
Not running and hiding from anything. It's called TRUTH. Now I realize that is a foreign concept for you but, even so, it does NOT takeaway from the obvious fact that you tried to divert the conversation.

I've given my answer to you. I understand that it really bugs you to no end when you can't control the conversation the way you want. That's typical TROLL behavior.

Too bad. I'm sticking with God's Word. Matt. 7:6 & 10:14.

Now, let's see if you are a man of your word because I am. If you are, I don't expect to hear from you again until you are ready to surrender to the Lord Jesus Christ.

Royce E. Van Blaricome, Christian News Network 14 Comments [4/25/2017 4:39:33 AM]
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Quote# 126635

[I don't even know which STDT to put this in]

Most antifa dweebos would think this female degeneration was a feature, not a bug, increasing as it does her perceived sexual accessibility to waaaaahhhtifa nü-males who will never get a woman in her pre-cocksaed pure state.

In a nod to famed CH commenter GBFM, I could have just as well titled this post “Before Desouling, After Desouling”. Antifa is a tentacle of the dehumanizing globalism project, which itself is a mass psy ops backed by the force of the state to deracinate and desoul Whites, severing them from rootedness to their homelands.

Globohomo desouling can take a young woman from an earthy prettiness to a cock-scarred pornslut cavorting with anti-white filth in a few years time. Our Western Civ is degrading so quickly that we can see this degeneration unfolding in real time.

Thankfully, we can also see our salvation rising with nearly equal quickness.

CH, Chateau Heartiste 17 Comments [4/25/2017 4:39:15 AM]
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Quote# 126634



Anonymous, Twitter 19 Comments [4/25/2017 4:39:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 126631

Genesis 1:6, backed by 2 Peter 3:6 shows with all that water, a good portion was removed to form an insulating blanket around Earth. The land then, was largely smooth. Without the mountain peaks and ocean trenches we have today.

We are not told how long after that period that the Creative Days began. Nor the centuries of continental drift starting after the Flood. Allowing all the animals and people to get to settling in most all the contenients and simply walk to them. Over many decades, people have seen all of them fit together as one giant jig-saw puzzle.

To allow waters to receed after the Flood taking an entire year, major changes in earth's plates had to occur. Since most of the water came from the canopy, imagine the stress put on them! Some plates dipped to form ocean trenches. Which pushed others to push up, to form mountains.

grnlow, Y! answers 6 Comments [4/25/2017 4:38:24 AM]
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Quote# 126628

Well the only thing wrong with being gay is that you subliminally condone abortion and kidnapping as well as teen pregnancy. Gays can't have kids so they adopt from people who are having kids to young. It's a destruction towards poor people that's my only problem with it.


shlomo, Yahoo! Answers 15 Comments [4/25/2017 4:36:20 AM]
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Submitted By: TheReasonator

Quote# 126627

I need to get this off my chest: Christians need to learn how to grow a backbone!

We've been taught - or should I say mis-taught - that to be a Christian is to be some type of pacifist, flower toting weakling who is not allowed to defend his or herself whenever someone ignorantly attacks them or their faith.

When someone shows up insulting you to your face, you're supposed to just take it, shut up and not say a mumbling word.

Those who teach this form of sissified Christianity justify it by referring back to Jesus who did not answer His accusers as He was going to the cross. But they ignore all those times when Jesus DID respond to His accusers, calling them snakes, cowards, devils and other choice words our Lord was fond of using for certain types of hypocritical folk.

And when you look at other examples in the Bible we see where the apostle Peter once cursed a sorcerer to damnation [Acts 8:9-24].

Paul commanded blindness on a magician who kept interrupting his presentation of the gospel with lies [Acts 13:6-12].

And on other occasions Paul also prayed to God to let Satan destroy someone's body who had crossed him the wrong way while in ministry. [1 Corinthians 5:5 | 1 Timothy 1:20]

And don't dare get into the Psalms of David - where David frequently prayed to God to break the teeth of his enemies, to kill them, to bring them to utter shame and ruin. [Psalm 3:7 | Psalm 58:6 | Psalm 143:12 | Psalm 35:4 | Psalm 70:2]

Or the stories of the prophets, like the time a group of youth made fun of Elisha by mocking him, and Elisha placed a curse on them that was carried out by a pair of she-bears that mauled those youth to pieces! [2 Kings 2:23-25]

The Lord our God is far from a pacifist! And you're better off leaving His servants alone rather than picking a fight with one.

Even practically speaking: if someone tried to break into your home to possibly harm you and your family, you wouldn't offer them coffee and cookies as you opened the front door for them!

So why do people expect me or others to just open up our social media pages to the disrespect of mockers, trolls, bots, demonic folk and cowards who hide behind fake pages?

What we have operating in our midst today are two types of Christians. One is all about lovey-dovey, feel good, hurt no one's feelings with the truth because they might get offended.

The other type is loving yet forceful, direct, quick to use the truth to slap you back into reality and away from the edge of hell. The more forceful type of Christian casts out demons by doing just that: CASTING them out - which involves forceful action, not soft, gentle or kind words.

The lovey-dovey Christianity isn't real. It's fake. And it's usually touted by those who aren't really saved. They're typically still sinners pretending to be holier than thou with a fake form of piety, when really they're heavily laden with sin using the fake Christians to hide behind so they don't have to deal with the reality of their own sinful condition.

They pretend to be offended whenever you answer a rude person sharply, accusing you of not being Christ-like: yet totally ignoring the fact that when Jesus comes back He's coming back to kill folks! Just read Revelation chapter 19. It gets messy when Christ returns!

So if you go by their logic, not even Jesus Himself will be acting Christ-like when He comes back! See the stupidity in this way of thinking?

These weakling wannabe believers will ignore the problems all around them being caused by the devil and his crowd - but attack the true Christians who are actively solving the problems.

They do this because secretly THEY themselves are part of the problem too. And they're on satanic assignment to mix in with the true people of God and pervert that truth with lies and a false sense of salvation built strictly on feel-good bless-me scriptures while ignoring Christ's direct command to repent.

I could go on. But I've said enough. And know this: on THIS page your disrespect, willful ignorance or rudeness WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

I'm not one of those punked-out pacifist believers spewing that Rodney King line: can't we all just get along. I already know the answer to that is an unequivocal NO.

This ain't heaven: this is earth! Which means we as believers will constantly find ourselves in a constant state of warfare. We cannot and will not get along with everybody else in the world. What kind of Disneyland mess is that anyway?

My focus is on preaching this gospel message and salvaging hell-bound lives. And if that happens to offend a sinner - which it should - so be it!

So I'm serving you fair notice now: If you let those demons in you show out on my page in public, expect for you and your demons to get embarrassed in public.

Ain't nobody got time for that mess! You've been warned.

Mack Major, Facebook 14 Comments [4/25/2017 4:33:26 AM]
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Quote# 126623

I don't suppose there are any other religious groups that pose a similar threat to the Russian people, their security, and public order, are there?

Religious freedom is a bogus and ill-considered pseudoright. In practice, it has been turned into a weapon that is almost solely used against Christianity across the West, and therefore it has to be abandoned. It has always been a charade anyhow; any religious belief or practice that challenges the state is always going to be banned no matter how sincerely held it may be. No one is about to let Aztecs start mass sacrificing to the sun or permit Druids to burn people in wicker baskets, no matter how historically legitimate their religious traditions are.

In like manner, any religion that harms the commonwealth merits similar outlaw status. Let people live among others of like religion if they wish to practice their religious traditions. How serious and sincere can their beliefs be anyway, and how much do those beliefs merit respect, if non-Christians would rather live in Christendom among Christians than where Islam, Hinduism, Shinto, or Judaism are the state religion?

Don't be fooled by the appeal to imaginary fears for Protestants. The concept of religious freedom in the USA died the moment prayer was banned in the public schools, and the coffin was nailed shut when Muslim immigration was encouraged. There is no legitimate moral, legal, or philosophical reason that every nation in Christendom should not proceed to ban all non-Christian religions as readily as atheist regimes banned Christianity in the 20th century.

The Enlightenment, such as it was, ended a long time ago. It failed. It is long past time to reject its failed liberal precepts.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 19 Comments [4/25/2017 4:31:43 AM]
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Quote# 126619

[Actual quote is across two comments]

On another note, there are too many dogs out there already. They literally chase children out of playgrounds in cities like San Francisco and Seattle, while their owners openly blame the kids for “provoking” them. I personally wouldn’t have much problem with a culling of the dogs, if done humanely of course.

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A bullet costs a few cents, and is a lot more humane than dragging the animal off to be held down and stabbed with a needle in a terrifying place. “Putting them to sleep” is a really misleading euphemism. Why not just be a man and shoot them? I know it’s hard for the owner, but it’s much better for the pet. People are such cowards these days that they’d rather other living beings go through pain than suffer a pinprick to their own conscience.

Bill P, Unz 24 Comments [4/23/2017 9:38:50 PM]
Fundie Index: 9

Quote# 126618

What I’m talking about is not separating biology from spirituality, but acknowledging the difference between one facet and the other. A Van Gogh painting was made by Van Gogh’s brain synapses that moved his arm, wrist and finger muscles that moved pigments on a canvass. A Van Gogh painting also has a unique mystery to it that impresses on our emotions in a special way. One facet of a Van Gogh painting doesn’t diminish the other, and neither should the biological facet of sexuality diminish the spiritual facet or vice versa.If you only believe that sexuality is a biological reality, you are ignoring the spiritual reality that Scripture affirms is imbued into it, such as man being the glory of God and woman being the glory of man. The idea sexuality is purely a biological reality, un-infused with any spiritual meaning, is a Gnostic heresy that leads to the church to more egregious expressions of Gnosticism. If sexuality is a purely biological reality, then there is no basis for a spiritual claim on a biological reality any more than there can be a sinful way to breathe. It is not enough to say that you claim that sexuality is only a biological reality but then claim that certain sexual desires and expressions are sin because the Bible says so. You cannot maintain a concept of sin for very long while ignoring the spiritual architecture of reality that would be necessary for it to be sin. Once you have separated spiritual purpose from gender, separating gender from the body is the next step on a Gnostic path.

Sexual purity is connected to acknowledging that there is a spiritual dimension to sexuality, encoded in differences between men and women that transcend biology, and benefits when cultural space is designated for men and women, respectively, to reflect God’s image differently. A non-Christian culture that has this this will be more stable and achieve more sexual purity than a supposed Christian culture that has thought its way into a purely material view of sexuality, while still trying to pay lip service to the Biblical idea of sexual sin.

Greg Wertime, Facebook 14 Comments [4/23/2017 9:38:04 PM]
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Quote# 126616



Anonymous, Whisper 39 Comments [4/23/2017 9:37:07 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 126615

Speak Now is the 2010 liberal album by noted succubus, harlot, and nominal Episcopalian degenerate Taylor Swift. This album is a testament to the rejection of the lordship of Jesus Christ, makes a mockery out of substitutionary atonement, and promotes greed, lust, and selfishness.

Proponents of this album have noted its "pure" and "family friendly" allure, but this is treachery placed upon intellectually devoid parents of impressionable teenage girls by Lucifer himself. This lyric from the song "Better Than Revenge" contains explicit references to bedroom conduct, as well as prideful arrogance. "She's not a saint and she's not what you think /She's an actress, whoa /She's better known for the things that she does / On the mattress, whoa" James 4:6 says " But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble."

Another example of this wickedness is in the song "Sparks Fly" which contains "And you stood there in front of me just / Close enough to touch /Close enough to hope you couldn't see / What I was thinking of" as well as "My mind forgets to remind me, your a bad idea /You touch me once and it's really something / You find I'm even better than you, imagined I would be" and if THAT was not enough see "I run my fingers through your hair / And watch the lights go wild / Just keep on keeping your eyes on me /Its just wrong enough to make it feel right" So, Taylor Swift admitted to lusting after the flesh as well as engaging in premarital relations, and is therefore encouraging her audience of susceptible teenage girls to do the same. Ephesians 6:11 instructs us to put on the whole armor of God, and Matthew 5:28 says that lustful thoughts are the same as adultery. Taylor Swift is a wicked sinner, no better than other wicked sinners like homos and murderers.

The accompanying tour to this album, the Speak Now World Tour, was a flop and managed to convert no one to the false religion of Taylor Swift and her traveling "church" of sexual impurity and prideful boastfulness. However, more Americans are indeed coming to conservative Bible believing Independent Fundamental Baptist churches, and rejecting the wicked sinful "church" of Taylor Swift and her wicked hymns of unrighteousness and this false religion is crumbling as more and more find their faith in the everliving and One True God, the Lord Jesus Christ!

James Wilson , New Testament Baptist Church 29 Comments [4/23/2017 9:36:32 PM]
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Quote# 126613

Jenny Ondioline:
Your problem Royce is that you want the decisions about who gets to form romantic relationships to be determined not by the governments who can determine if someone or something is being taken advantage of or abused, but by yourself based on nothing more than what your holy book tells you.

An incestuous relationship is vile to me because it blurs the areas between romantic love and nurturing love. If both parties are of consenting age there's nothing I or anyone else can do about it taking place. It doesn't mean I like it. And you could take a page from this - you can disapprove but still recognize that it's none of your business. I'm not overly concerned with this one because people aren't lining up to marry their mothers.

Who am I to say the children are being abused and are not consenting? Nobody, but I don't have to be. I point to the law that says a child can't consent until a legal age. At what point does a child stop being a child? Where the law says so. The line needs to be clearly drawn. What evidence is it you're looking for here? It's the law. Children need to be protected from predators just as animals do.

Different nations have different ages defining age of consent - some are lower than others and I might not like that but the law is the law. If enough people can make a case, in some of those countries the law gets changed. That's the best we can do.

See, Royce? No contradiction. Just thought out, reasoned words. Now how about you tell ME why two adult people of the same sex shouldn't legally enter into a romantic relationship. Please tell me who they are hurting. Please tell me where the abuse lies. Please tell me why you should be the one we all listen to to get it stopped.


Royce E. Van Blaricome:
LOL. There's that faux omniscience again! Or are you just practicing psychology without a license? Tell ya what, need time I wanna know what my problem is, just rest easy and know I'll rely on God who can actually tell me what it is because He knows!

Of course it's easier for you to divert from answering the questions by focusing on me being the problem instead of yourself. No surprise there. But you are spot on right when you say I let God's Holy inerrant, infallible, and timeless Word of God make my decisions for me.

Who are YOU to say an incestuous relationship blurs the areas between romantic love and nurturing love? Who appointed you God of the Universe and Omniscient to say that?

"If both parties are of consenting age there's nothing I or anyone else can do about it taking place. It doesn't mean I like it."

Now you know why I thanked you for showing that the Mother & Son should be allowed to marry. And that you lied when you said, "I don't support a mother and son incestuous relationship". Doing nothing to stop and prevent the incestuous relationship IS supporting it. Any good soldier knows that when you do nothing to prevent the advancing of the enemy you ARE aiding and abetting the enemy. So, once again, thanks for publicly showing that you do support incestuous relationships. And I imagine the other things I listed that were deleted as well.

"And you could take a page from this - you can disapprove but still recognize that it's none of your business."

What a hateful and totally unloving thing to say!! But hey, again, thanks for showing everyone just how hateful and unloving you are. That you would standby and do nothing while holding to an empty claim that it's none of your business. How pathetic.

"I'm not overly concerned with this one because people aren't lining up to marry their mothers."

Wrong! I just gave you the names of one who is and of a father/son marriage too. But, again, I thank you for putting your total selfishness on such a display.

"I point to the law that says a child can't consent until a legal age. At what point does a child stop being a child? Where the law says so."

Thank you for publicly displaying your acceptance and support for the two teachers who preyed on 13yo boys because it was LEGAL to do so. Thank you for publicly showing that if the age is changed to 10 or 9 or 8 or done away with, you're gonna be just fine with that because it's the LAW.

And, most of all, thank you for showing that your morality is contingent upon the will of the majority and whatever laws can be passed. What a grand witness and testimony for a superb reason to die to self and surrender to Christ and place your trust in Almighty God!!!

"Children need to be protected from predators just as animals do."

Thank you for equating children to animals. That explains a lot. I'd love to hear how you're gonna protect the bunnies from the coyotes, deer from the cougars, elk from the wolves, impalas from the lions, seals from the polar bears, and all animals from humans. That oughtta be a grand plan! LOL

"Different nations have different ages defining age of consent - some are lower than others and I might not like that but the law is the law."

There ya go again. What an utterly bankrupt morality.

"If enough people can make a case, in some of those countries the law gets changed. That's the best we can do."

Wait a minute, it's the Law! You said it's ok if it's the Law! Why bother trying to change it? In fact, why not just go back to the days when you weren't allowed to vote or hold certain public offices? After all, it was the LAW!! Why not follow the Law when Blacks weren't considered fully human or interracial marriage wasn't allowed? Do you support the Law or not?? Do you follow the Law or not? Ya need to make up your mind.

And I don't know who the "we" is that you refer to but it certainly does NOT include me or any other Christians. There is FAR MORE we can do!

"See, Royce? No contradiction. Just thought out, reasoned words."

Oh yeah, you've made that abundantly clear! LOL NOT!! Your "thought out, reasoned" words are insanity. LOL

"Now how about you tell ME why two adult people of the same sex shouldn't legally enter into a romantic relationship."

Ok. GOD.

"Please tell me who they are hurting."

Ok. Themselves and every single person who accepts, approves, and supports them.

"Please tell me where the abuse lies."

Ok. SIN.

"Please tell me why you should be the one we all listen to to get it stopped."

Ok. Because God says so. I am an Ambassador of the Lord Jesus Christ. An image bearer. A light in the Darkness. One who brings the Truth. Commissioned by Christ to do so.

Now, I've answered your questions. Try answering mine. And answer this one too, just exactly why are you here? Exactly what are you trying to accomplish?


Royce E. Van Blaricome, Christian News Network 15 Comments [4/23/2017 9:35:55 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 126612

[On a GOP judge arrested for child sex trafficking]

I told you Repubs were all criminals and rapists.

NeoMatrix, FSTDT 17 Comments [4/23/2017 9:35:39 PM]
Fundie Index: 8
Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 126610

[Commenting under "I think people underestimate just how evil Antifa are. Please read this."]

@Vladtheimpaler14:
I'm already at the point where I'd happily go to jail just to enjoy torturing some Antifa scum

They're subhuman


Reported:

user reports:

1: All Physical Removal must be self defence


I approved the post. Torturing communists is an act of self-defense, as communism inherently violates the NAP as it inherently seeks to infringe on our peaceful ways of life.

Additionally, he actually stated he'd "happily go to jail" as a hypothetical, it was a statement on how much he hated them and not on what he'd actually do.

Vladtheimpaler14 and LeftistsToTheLions, Reddit - r/Physical_Removal 10 Comments [4/23/2017 9:34:42 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 126603

SRINAGAR: Five members of a family including a 9-year-old girl have been injured in an attack by 'gau rakshaks' or self-styled cow vigilantes in the Reasi district of Jammu and Kashmir. The incident took place on Friday evening when a nomad family was moving with their livestock near the Talwara area. They were intercepted by a large group of gau rakshaks and beaten up with iron rods.

The victims say the attackers took away their entire flock including goats, sheep and cows. The injured, 9-year-old Sammi, who have suffered multiple fractures have been shifted to hospital.

The police said they have filed an FIR and action will be taken against the attackers. "We have registered an FIR. I have asked DIG of Udhampur range to visit the area. Strict action will be taken against these goons," said Jammu and Kashmir police chief SP Vaid said.

Police in Reasi said they have identified five of the attackers but no one has been arrested so far. "We are investigating the case and culprits will be brought to book," said a police officer in Reasi.

The victims say they can't forget the horror. "They beat us ruthlessly. Somehow we managed to flee from there. One of our children, a 10-year-old, is still missing. We don't know whether he is alive or dead. They even beat our elders very badly. They wanted to kill us and throw our bodies into the river," said Naseem Begam, one of the victims.

Besides goat, sheep, the family were moving with 16 cows. "They didn't even spare dogs. They too were taken away," she said.

Jammu and Kashmir has a large number of nomadic herder families, who travel between the Jammu's Himalayan mountains and the meadows of Kashmir every year with their flocks of cattle, horses, goats and sheep.

Gau Rakshaks, NDTV 9 Comments [4/23/2017 12:24:11 PM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 126602


While reincarnation into robots is meaningless because of what I said above....it is possible that some ghosts could occupy robots. This could be potentially dangerous. A real 'ghost in the machine' situation! Ghosts are said to be astral bodies of dead people.

Sriram, Religion and Ethics 25 Comments [4/23/2017 12:22:25 PM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane
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