Quote# 129067

An imam who sexually touched four young girls during Quran lessons at a mosque has been jailed for 13 years.

Mohammed Haji Saddique, 81, would call the pupils to sit next to him and read in Arabic from the Muslim holy book.

He sexually touched the girls in front of his class and slapped students repeatedly if they made mistakes during lessons.

Cardiff Crown Court heard Saddique - of Cyncoed, Cardiff - had metal and wooden sticks, which he used to poke the children as they studied.

Saddique, who taught at the Madina Mosque in Cardiff for more than 30 years, was convicted of the offences following a trial.

A jury found him guilty of 14 offences - six indecent assaults and eight sexual assaults - that took place between 1996 and 2006.

Judge Stephen Hopkins QC jailed Saddique for 13 years and ordered him to register as a sex offender indefinitely.

"All four complainants were very brave indeed in overcoming not only personal but cultural barriers which they faced in making formal complaints and giving evidence against you," the judge said.

"There is a darker, deviant side to you which this trial has exposed. This was a gross breach of trust - parents sending their young, female children to be taught the Quran by you."

Saddique, who insisted the allegations were a conspiracy by other members of the mosque, has "no idea" of the harm caused by his actions, the judge said.

The court heard Saddique was born in Hong Kong and moved to Pakistan before coming to the UK in 1967, eventually settling in Cardiff.

He was a member of the Madina Mosque and was involved in running it, including as a treasurer and teaching Q studies to primary school pupils.

Classes took place four times per week after school and pupils referred to the imam as 'Uncle Saddique' as a mark of respect, the court heard.

"You would attempt to maintain discipline and concentration by tapping or slapping the child sitting next to you who didn't read correctly," the judge said.

"Every time one of these small children made a mistake you would slap them until they got it right and slap them for every mistake they made."

Police first launched an investigation in 2006 following complaints by two girls but Saddique denied any wrongdoing.

The investigation was restarted in 2016 after two other girls came forward.

Saddique would touch the girls under their traditional loose-fitting clothing during his lessons, and rub them against his groin and legs.

In victim impact statements read to the court, the girls, now in their 20s, spoke of the lasting impact of Saddique's offending.

Speaking of one, the judge said: "It has put her off religion, she deliberately doesn't own a Quran.

"[For her] the ethos of going to the mosque at any time is that when you are there, God is protecting you.

"Her idea was shattered because you abused her when she was reading from the holy book."

Another victim said giving evidence went against "the culture and ethos of those who follow the Islamic faith" and she feared there would be consequences for Saddique's conviction.

Representing Saddique, Caroline Rees described her client as a "frail and unwell" great-grandfather who was held in high esteem by his family and community.

"This is a man of 81 whose life expectancy is not good given his health and age," she added.

The judge also made Saddique the subject of a sexual harm prevention order.

Detective Chief Inspector Rob Cronick, of South Wales Police, said: "As a result of the verdict and today's sentence I believe there may be members of the community who may now feel confident enough to speak to the police or our support agencies."

He urged anyone affected to call the NSPCC on 0808 800 5000, or the force on 101 quoting reference number 1600442164.

Mohammed Haji Saddique, The Independent 22 Comments [7/10/2017 12:38:33 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129066

Bread used to celebrate the Eucharist during Roman Catholic Mass must not be gluten-free - although it may be made from genetically modified organisms, the Vatican has ruled.

In a letter to bishops, Cardinal Robert Sarah said the bread can be low-gluten.

But he said there must be enough protein in the wheat to make it without additives.

The new rules are needed because the bread is now sold in supermarkets and on the internet, the cardinal said.

Roman Catholics believe bread and wine served at the Eucharist are converted into the body and blood of Christ through a process known as transubstantiation.

The wine used must also be "natural, from the fruit of the grape, pure and incorrupt, not mixed with other substances", said Cardinal Robert Sarah of the Vatican's Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments.

The ruling was issued at the request of Pope Francis, the letter said.

There are about 1.2 billion Roman Catholics around the world.

Catholic Church, BBC News 18 Comments [7/10/2017 12:38:27 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129065

The Bible teaches that the Earth is stationary and immovable at the center of a "small" universe with the sun, moon, and stars going around it every day. All observational and experimental evidence -- and non-occult math, i.e., true science -- supports the Bible teaching.

Bonnie Halls, FixedEarth 23 Comments [7/10/2017 12:38:19 AM]
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Quote# 129064

It is also striking to notice that atheist believers (Atheism is also a religion by the way) who believe in Dark Matter and Dark Energy are so worried and make such a big fuss of inoffensive religious believers who happen to believe that the Earth was created 6,000 years ago.

Shameless bloodsucking "scientists" are telling a lot of lies about nutrition. They always refuse to investigate the effect of basic simple diets like eating without cooking, like all the animal are eating. But they have credibility, because they use science as PR, even though they are not actually practicing science.

Arguably, a religious society can be much better than the current atheist and materialistic society. Because the religious people have some moral values, while the current society is always teaching you to be more selfish and greedy and to take advantage of others. Umar II and the Islamic Golden Age stand as a good proof for that.

Sometimes I prefer to live between religious people who have some limits instead of keeping to be part of this society that is going down spiraling into more and more greed, corruption and abuse - towards disintegration. Being an Amish farmer with weird beliefs is actually much safer and healthier than to be part of this economic system where you are never good enough and therefore you have to live a life in misery and humiliation "for good (and scientific) reasons".

In any case, the question remains: if the non-religious people are so smart then why the secular society is such a big disaster? Where is the reason and the logic when the scientific and "rational" people have no problem with the perpetual situation of increasing the taxes for the poor and reducing the taxes for the rich?

I want to see the scientific people getting together and building a functional and fair society. They are clearly incapable to do that, so where is their reason, logic and intelligence? Intelligence means being able to solve problems, therefore they are lacking intelligence, logic and reason.

How can the scientific community have credibility when it is actually so corrupt?

The catastrophic results of their actions show that the secular and the scientific people are actually not using reason and logic.

Whatever system (religious or not, weird or not) that helps the people to have a decent life without hurting others is actually more logic and reasonable and intelligent than the current system that locks the poor people into poverty and confusion (with the help and participation of the "scientists").

Blackspoon, Ars Technica 22 Comments [7/10/2017 12:38:13 AM]
Fundie Index: 8
Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 129046

These are foundational creation truths which cannot be separated!! On this site, you will find the facts in over 100 different links. The Levitating Globe, shown on the left, has an electromagnet and computerized sensor hidden in its display stand which causes the Earth to levitate motionless in the air. Could God have engineered something like that for the real Earth? The Bible and all real evidence confirm that this is precisely what he did, and indeed:
The Earth is not rotating...nor is it going around the sun.

Today’s cosmology fulfills an anti-Bible religious plan disguised as "science". The whole scheme from Copernicanism to Big Bangism is a factless lie. Those lies have planted the Truth-killing virus of evolutionism in every aspect of man’s "knowledge" about the Universe, the Earth, and Himself. Take your time. Check it all out. Decide for yourself.

Bonnie Hall, FixedEarth 19 Comments [7/9/2017 7:12:51 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129044

I have been cultivating Falun Dafa for more than 20 years and have gradually reached a state of enlightenment. My thoughts are connected with my bodies in other dimensions, which means that I can travel through different times and spaces. I am writing down what I saw when I traveled to a world in another dimension.

A local practitioner has been collaborating with me on Dafa projects. However, due to his tight work schedule and the birth of his child, he slacked off in cultivation and started to have very bad asthma symptoms.

I invited him over to my apartment, and for several days in a row, we studied Master’s teachings and did the exercises together. I helped him search inside himself. His symptoms improved, but did not go away completely.

After he fell asleep one night, I continued sending forth righteous thoughts. In a tranquil state, I could see his past lives. During a time in prehistory, he was the sea god, the same one described in Western mythology. He was the king of the oceans. The statues under the oceans were of mermen holding tridents. The offerings they displayed in front of their sea god were large white pearls inside shells. As I was observing the pearls, the ocean water suddenly lit up, and I could see shiny particles lining up, leading me towards a gate to another dimension.

In the other dimension there were three suns in the sky. When the temperature rose, the suns merged into one that radiated gentle, warm light.

I also saw several prosperous cities and towns. The people wore garments that resembled the Bohemian style in central Europe. The adult males were clothed in white fabric, with olive branches on their head that represented their social status. Females were dressed in red and gold, and they pulled their hair up. Young girls had their hair down and decorated with white lilies.

The knights took me to a group of buildings made of white jade stones. Different colored roses were blooming, and the air was filled with a pleasant fragrance. There were huge white pillars decorated with gold engravings in the main lobby. The ceilings were decorated in the same style. A rectangular water fountain took me through the main lobby to the golden royal throne. I saw white pearls on top of the water fountain. By the royal throne were 12 smaller seats. The furnishings were exceptionally rich and luxurious, but the vast palace was empty and quiet.

Outside there were a variety of landscapes with flowers and trees, as well as different architectural structures. I came to a round white building called the Crystal Palace, which was surrounded by many pillars. The inside of the palace was all crystals. The ceilings were transparent, and inlaid in the floor was a huge red rose in full bloom. Sitting south and facing north was a tall portrait of my fellow practitioner, opening up a Falun Gong banner in Tiananmen Square. He had a calm smile on his face and his eyes looked firm and fearless.

Hanging on the walls of the palace were portraits of this practitioner’s different images in his different lifetimes. One of the pictures showed him as the sea god holding a trident.

Light shone down on me in the center of the hall from the transparent dome. Suddenly, stars, galaxies and celestial bodies appeared in the center of the hall around me, as if I had entered the vast universe. In the center of the celestial body was a tiny galaxy surrounded by golden light—that was the small universe of our planet Earth.

Outside the Crystal Palace, a large number of divine warriors in several groups in close formation assembled in the vast grasslands. The divine warriors were dressed in leather armor, helmets, and boots, like those of ancient Rome. In front were nine dragon knights with huge dragon beasts by their sides, followed by warriors holding large shields, javelins, daggers, and other types of weapons.

On either side of the assembled warriors were two knights on divine horses with bears in front of them and centaurs behind them. A man wearing a golden olive branch came to me. Placing his right hand on his chest, he greeted me.

“Dear Fa-rectifying Dafa Disciple, thank you for coming to our Rose Country, and thank you for helping our king, your fellow practitioner. We hope you will convey our thoughts to him, our great king, and tell him that we miss him dearly. Please take this letter to him. And please accept our most heartfelt gratitude!”

Respectfully, I took the scroll sealed with a red rose insignia. The man retreated into the assembly, and the divine warriors once again bowed to me.

The warriors then began to pound out a rhythm with their swords and shields. The booming sound was like human heartbeats or brave soldiers shouting in the battlefield. The warriors' eyes had a firm and fearless look, which reminded me of how my fellow practitioner looked when he stood in Tiananmen Square with the banner in his hands.

Gradually, the heavenly scene started to blur and the sounds faded. For a long time, my heart was racing and I could not calm down.

Coming out of tranquility, I shared with my fellow practitioner what I’d experienced in the kingdom of the Rose Country. I relayed to him what I had read on the scroll.

The letter said:

Dear Honorable King,

You have left us and lived in the secular world for billions of years. We all miss you dearly. Although we cannot be with you, our love for you has not changed, but has only grown deeper.

My King, you are the mightiest because you dare to sacrifice yourself to safeguard justice for the universe; you are the most honorable because you have drained yourself for the everlasting happiness of our world.

As the universe is emerging from the old, you have worked endlessly to save our world and our lives. We will live and die with you till the end.

With love,

Your Heavenly Family

My fellow practitioner’s eyes filled with tears. He regretted not cultivating diligently. Ever since then, we’ve helped each other to follow Master’s teachings and cultivated together. He soon broke through the old forces’ arrangements and returned to cultivating diligently.

Unknown author, Minghui 18 Comments [7/8/2017 11:09:44 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129043

My daughter was two-years-old in the winter of 2004, and everyone said she was a pretty girl.

I noticed one day that her right eye was red when she woke up from a nap, and there was a white dot under the iris. I thought there was some discharge, so I rubbed her eye and tried to remove it. But the dot remained.

I realized there was a problem, but it was late in the day, so my husband and I took her to see a doctor the following day.

She was diagnosed with keratitis (inflammation of the cornea of the eye). We then spent two days going to other hospitals but got the same diagnosis. Doctors said it could reoccur after an infection and that the whole eyeball could turn white. It was incurable because there were no nerves there, and no medication could reach the area.

My husband and I were shocked and saddened!

Although I had been practicing Falun Dafa for seven years, my understanding of Dafa's teachings was not solid. I applied medication and ointment to my daughter's eye for six months, but nothing worked. My heart broke whenever I saw her eye.

One day in the summer of 2005, I picked my daughter up from daycare. She was eating a fried doughnut twist. I felt very sad about the problem with her eye and then thought of Master Li (the founder of Falun Dafa), closed my eyes, and said: “Master, please help us. Only you can help.”

Then my daughter said, “Mom, it’s Master!”

I opened my eyes immediately and asked, “What did you say?”

“Mom, it’s Master!”

“Where?” I asked.

“There.” My daughter pointed to my left shoulder.

I did not dare to look, as I felt I wasn't worthy of seeing him. I had asked Master for help before when my daughter was in trouble, and Master took care of her. I felt ashamed but excited. I knew there was hope that my daughter's eye would be healed.

When my daughter opened her eyes the next morning, I saw they were clear and pretty with no sign of the keratitis. Although I had expected a change, I was still surprised at the reality. I could not express my gratitude with words!

Later, I talked to my husband. He did not say anything, but I could see he was thankful. He was against my cultivation because Falun Dafa practitioners are severely persecuted in China.

My daughter is 14 now, healthy, and pretty. She knew it was Master who gave her beautiful bright eyes.

She always said: “Fortunately Master has saved me. Otherwise, would I not be blind?”

Thank you, Master.

Unknown author, Minghui 9 Comments [7/8/2017 11:09:32 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129038

When a boy has a cold his body makes him sneeze, the cold is blown out of the body by way of mucus goo that has captured the bacterial intruders...

When a boy is sad he gets teary eyed, anxiety is apparent, and a certain amount of self confidence is lost, and vulnerability is exposed...

When a boy is scared...

When a boy tired...

When a boy is determined, he...

BUT when a boy is horny, sexually desirous... Society doesn't know! We shut that entire huge part right down... It doesn't exist... it's dirty, shameful, and unbecoming of a proper boy...

Imagine how ignorant, cruel, and barbaric that is... Society just simply shuts it down, shames it to death, and punishes like "murder" any friend that would have entertained it's powerful human trait.

It's frankly astonishing, i know i'm not telling you anything you didn't already know... but seriously, the fundamental physiological
hardening penis asking/craving for stimulus, affection, and satisfaction just wished away by a cruel but very "proper" society instructed by a great school of academia and justice.

When you truly think about it... How impossible is it that we sit where we are in this day 'n' age... that loving young men that shared in passion sit in prison, rotting in shame while Cantor and the like, dribble and spew toxic voodoo and irreversible damage.

Jessy, BoyChat 15 Comments [7/8/2017 11:08:09 PM]
Fundie Index: 8

Quote# 129037

International BoyLove Day has been established to give due honor and recognition to current and former loved boys who, in their quest for the love and acceptance they could find nowhere else, chose to defy the artificial and malicious rules that forbade such love. It also honors those kind, caring, and courageous older males - some who are still adolescents themselves - who have given over their lives to the love, nurture, and mentoring of boys.

These brave boys and their older friends have committed themselves to this time honored and beneficial tradition in the face of suspicion, opposition, and hate from that portion of today's society who are willfully ignorant, and who neither understand nor appreciate boys who desire and seek after this love, or the heroic older males who try to fill their need.

IBLD, IBLD 16 Comments [7/8/2017 11:07:55 PM]
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Quote# 129036

Responsible boylove is a relationship between a boy who has a desire for a close and intimate friendship with an older male, and an older boy or man whose love for that boy encompasses enjoyment of the boy's companionship and a desire to provide a mentoring and nurturing environment. The nature, vitality, and duration of the relationship, as well as the extent of nurturing and mentoring, are determined by mutual consent, with the boy's wishes taking precedence. The relationship also includes a definite pedosexual attraction on the part of the older, and may include a desire for sexual experimentation, exploration, play, and gratification on the part of the younger. It is, however, a fundamental tenet of responsible boylove that any physical expression of sexuality is only acceptable with the age appropriate understanding, encouragement, and consent of the boy involved. However, both parties must also carefully take into consideration that any such physical expressions, no matter how completely consensual, are considered a criminal act under the present legal systems in most of the world.

Common misconceptions:

Responsible boylove does not include, support, nor in any way condone non-consensual sexual activity. It does not try to excuse or justify such things as attempts to seduce an obviously unwilling boy, molestation, or predation in any form. Those who subscribe to the responsible model of boylove are as appalled by such crimes as anyone else; indeed, perhaps more so, because of their love for all boys, and the pain they feel when one of them is molested, raped, or murdered. The public and the media seem to know only one word when there is sexual contact between a boy and an older male, the ugly and pejorative label of "pedophile." But the current use of that term is a total corruption of the original meaning, it is a malicious creation of misguided academics, radical religionists, malignant feminists, and prejudiced politicians, and as such is considered unacceptable by a large percentage of boylovers.

SafeHaven, SaveHaven 8 Comments [7/8/2017 11:07:49 PM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 129033

I was watching a YouTube video today where people call in to debate this man on A Radio Station.....

The man on the Radio said he was talking to the dumbest woman in the world.

He said she was so dumb that she would have drink gallons of tea just to get up to the level of a moron.

She was a college student who was in favor of Muslims being allowed to include their Sharia law in the USA.

I can't find the video, but that radio host said she was so dumb he wouldn't allow her to speak anymore and hung up on her.

This is what our children are being taught in colleges now.


dlo_3us2001, Realabortiondebate 22 Comments [7/8/2017 11:07:09 PM]
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Quote# 129016

I have found an indication that the Spartans were one of worst feminist civilizations of earth, an impious assertion that I am terrified to put here, so I warn you that it is extremely offensive to any good man who follow natural law and not the evil human laws:

“Most important, rather than being married off at the age of 12 or 13, Spartan law forbade the marriage of a girl until she was in her late teens or early 20s. The reasons for delaying marriage were to ensure the birth of healthy children, but the effect was to spare Spartan women the hazards and lasting health damage associated with pregnancy among adolescents.”

If this is true it is horrifying and a crime, a violation of the natural law, which requires marriage and pregnancy as soon the girl reaches puberty (you see, like romans and other greeks, at 12 or 13, like 99% of SANE humanity before feminism). Also note that reasons are junk science, because adolescent pregnancy is really healthy, even more young, more healthy is to the girl and the baby, so spartans mens like their modern counterparts are a fine example of female-dominated pricks.

“There is some evidence in ancient sources that the Spartans practiced polyandry. Herodotus says that the bigamy of Anaxandridas II was un-Spartan, along with plural marriage, older men seem to have allowed younger, more fit men, to impregnate their wives”

WTF, so spartan men are not allowed to bang young teen girls and marry multiple women, but women are allowed to bang with multiple and more young men, and spartan men support this insanity! like our modern feminist utopia!

“Spartan women seem to have married relatively late relative to their counterparts elsewhere in Greece. While Athenian girls might have expected to marry for the first time around the age of fourteen, Spartan girls might have waited until they were between eighteen and twenty, and probably married men who were around the age of 25.”

Exactly like this sick modern feminist society!! In short Sparta was a feminist state where women dominated fisically strong but mentally weak men who only live to die at war to defend ungrateful old women and practiced a Nazi eugenics progam who includes kill unwanted children (feminism again), and they were also a democracy, the worst form of government ever created. Did you know that in the SS, marriages were not allowed if there was a difference in age? What I said, effeminate pricks. These societies do not deserve worship, deserve contempt.

Order, HereticTOC 18 Comments [7/8/2017 11:05:52 PM]
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Quote# 129005

“Alternative facts” aren’t new. Young-Earth creationist groups like Answers in Genesis believe the Earth is no more than 6,000 years old despite actual mountains of evidence to the contrary, and they've been playing the “alternative facts” card for years. In lieu of conceding incontrovertible geological evidence, they sidestep it by saying, “Well, we just look at those facts differently.”

Nowhere is this more apparent than the Grand Canyon, which young-Earth creationist groups have long been enamored with. A long geologic record (spanning almost 2 billion years, in total) is on display in the layers of the Grand Canyon thanks to the work of the Colorado River. But many creationists instead assert that the canyon’s rocks—in addition to the spectacular erosion that reveals them—are actually the product of the Biblical “great flood” several thousand years ago.

Andrew Snelling, who got a PhD in geology before joining Answers in Genesis, continues working to interpret the canyon in a way that is consistent with his views. In 2013, he requested permission from the National Park Service to collect some rock samples in the canyon for a new project to that end. The Park Service can grant permits for collecting material, which is otherwise illegal.

Snelling wanted to collect rocks from structures in sedimentary formations known as “soft-sediment deformation”—basically, squiggly disturbances of the layering that occur long before the sediment solidifies into rock. While solid rock layers can fold (bend) on a larger scale under the right pressures, young-Earth creationists assert that all folds are soft sediment structures, since forming them doesn’t require long periods of time.

The National Park Service sent Snelling’s proposal out for review, having three academic geologists who study the canyon look at it. Those reviews were not kind. None felt the project provided any value to justify the collection. One reviewer, the University of New Mexico’s Karl Karlstrom, pointed out that examples of soft-sediment deformation can be found all over the place, so Snelling didn’t need to collect rock from a national park. In the end, Snelling didn’t get his permit.

In May, Snelling filed a lawsuit alleging that his rights had been violated, as he believed his application had been denied by a federal agency because of his religious views. The complaint cites, among other things, President Trump’s executive order on religious freedom.
That lawsuit was withdrawn by Snelling on June 28. According to a story in The Australian, Snelling withdrew his suit because the National Park Service has relented and granted him his permit. He will be able to collect about 40 fist-sized samples, provided that he makes the data from any analyses freely available.

Not that anything he collects will matter. “Even if I don’t find the evidence I think I will find, it wouldn’t assault my core beliefs,” Snelling told The Australian. “We already have evidence that is consistent with a great flood that swept the world.”
Again, in actuality, that hypothesis is in conflict with the entirety of Earth’s surface geology.

Snelling says he will publish his results in a peer-reviewed scientific journal. That likely means Answers in Genesis’ own Answers Research Journal, of which he is editor-in-chief.

Andrew Snelling, Ars Technica 4 Comments [7/8/2017 11:05:41 PM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 128995

[Comment on article about sex robots]

I can't help but to agree with many like " CatsWithShoes " and I am a devout Christian male with an attractive lovely wife who turns me on. It has become more and more obvious that white women have alienated their white men and turned to the nasty evil negros and muslims...which believe you me is a TOTAL ABOMINATION in the sight of our God. Still yet, I can't help but to also acknowledge that Satan and his agents { negros/ muslim/ ungodly } have their evil paws ALL over this one as they did in the days of Noah to corrupt the pure seedline of white men to stop the birth of Jesus through one PURE race. They know that sex with dolls can't produce offspring, so while white males will rush to get these dolls, white women continue to rush to the ungodly to produce Nephilims { so to speak }. Satan is NOT pulling new tricks, like the garden of Eden he corrupted woman NOT man. Adam was the first victim of sin brought by YES woman. Satan then does it again with the fallen ones { corrupted angels, who were once Son's of God, but got kicked out of heaven..... different subject } and came to earth to seduce....YES women again { daughters of men }.

Satan only sticks with what has worked time and time again.

White women will have much to answer for to the Father our Lord for it coming to this abominations.

Danie your a star, Breitbart  15 Comments [7/8/2017 11:05:24 PM]
Fundie Index: 12
Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 128955

At its core, the radical left is at war with God and His laws of life.

David Kupelian, WND 16 Comments [7/8/2017 11:03:50 PM]
Fundie Index: 7
Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 128954

The Season has come, this warning is from the Lord

Hear Ye O mankind time is short ye are in the Season spoke by the prophets in which sudden destruction shall come, great shall it be in that time and many sorrows to follow, as above so below the signs are in the stars the revelations in process of fulfilling, the Son of man soon rises and who can stand worthy before him who has lived righteously enough to meet the ends of the law. Take heed of this warning in which is now given for time is indeed short, and those who listen ye may be spared great suffering more than you can imagine, for it is by the mercy and grace of the Son to offer all a chance to repent and be saved from what is to come.

Many Shall perish in those days and shall find themselves in dark and deary places, dimensions of underworlds similar to mankinds idea of hell. O mankind listen now as I plead unto ye from One who knows what he is speaking, having overcome it all, ye know not the sorrows the future holds or what awaits for those whom die in their sins. Those who will not let it go and repent and accept the Son of God Yehoshua 'Jesus Christ's' offer of grace in his atonement, who will not strive in righteousness and follow Gods rules will have to taste of the dregs of the cup in which the Son has already drank, ye shall pay thy own sentence of sins and shall not be able to repent until it is over.

It is not worth it mankind whatever this evil world has to offer you, whatever this trap of Babylon has for you, whatever Mammon is offering you is not worth it, the cost of losing your soul for loving the things in this world is great, many have sold their souls without realising it by setting their hearts upon the things of Babylon and Mammon, it is enough for Satan to bind you to the various dimensions of underworlds each according to decree of horror based on a persons lusts, desires and sins. Now is the time to flee from the world of Babylon, let it go, let go of it's sins, repent ye repent and accept the grace of the Son of God Yehoshua 'Jesus Christ' before it's to late. For I say unto you now, a time will come that ye will not be able to repent, that the spirit of God even the Light of the World will be withdrawn and ye shall be in spiritual famine, ye shall thirst for the Light of the Lord and shall not find it, ye shall hunger for his bread and have but moldy breadcrumbs to eat, thy bodies shall be tainted in corruption and full of filth, ye shall wonder what has happened to me and be lost in confusion as the Lord God sends a strong delusion unto mankind in such days.

Mankind ye can say I am fear mongering, but behold I tell ye now that ye have great reason to fear God, for the Devil is soon cast down upon you and comes in great wrath and shall have power over all who has not repented and accepted the grace of the Son of God Yehoshua 'Jesus Christ', those who are not righteous whom live as hypocrites shall be left outside with the dogs, not measured in the temple and sealed. Such days I speak of soon come and great is the torment in that time, great are the cry's and sorrows, many whom were filled in pride who thought they could not be touched will be broken down. Do not procrastinate the time you have left to repent, for I know first had the sorrows to come and say to ye all repent, be ye not as the unwise who tempt fate.

I give ye also this promise of hope, if thou be as the foolish in which does fall know it is not forever, but ye shall pay thy own debts of sin first and it shall be worse than anything imagined. But a day will come ye shall be resurrected with the unjust and shall be before the Lord God in which you doubted in, in which ye spoke against and cursed. And he shall again extend his mercy and offer you his grace. Therefore hold to that hope and know that the debts when paid are forgiven but ye shall go through hell in getting to that point and learn the hard way unless repent now and procrastinate not your day of repentance any longer. But behold ye who are wise shall sincerely and truly repent before that hour and shall be forgiven if repenting in proper spirit, forsaking thine sins in truth and ye shall avoid much if do so. Some if they be called to give their life for Christ to hold to the faith in peace, do so with a guaranteed promise to receive life eternal and be taken into a paradise spirit world of waiting. As for many with spirit debts and weight upon spirit, the scale of eternal law must needs be met. Therefore know, ye whom are the servants of God, though ye may be called to tribulation and even if the jaws of Hell open up after ye, know that thy God shall not forsake ye and it shall be for thy own good. Ye shall rise again and shall be given thy just reward, yay even eternal life and a first resurrection, all things according to thy works in the book of life.

Now in closing, I bear my testimony that what has been spoken shall surely come to pass and I warn any whom would dare mock, scoff and speak insults against such, there are consequences in mocking such things. Let all be wise and speak not against this warning. These things are spoken in the name of Yehoshua Christ whom is One and the same as Jesus Christ, even the Son of the Eternal Father God. Amen

LightofTruth111, Godlike Productions 3 Comments [7/8/2017 11:03:38 PM]
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Quote# 129015

(on a guy getting permission to get rocks from the grand Canyon to conduct an experiment to prove his belief in a 6k year old earth)

“Even if I don’t find the evidence I think I will find, it wouldn’t assault my core beliefs,” Snelling told The Australian.

And this is where he fails as a Scientist.

There is a lot of evidence that the global flood occurred, however some of the specifics are unclear. He is testing a specific flood model. If this model turns out to be false, his fact based belief that the flood occurred will not change.

Evidence other than Bible or other religious text? Because of the thousands of other civilisations around at the time, none of them mentioned anything more than "it's raining a bit today".

How about the large flat regions in Africa. Small scale erosion cannot do that, you need large scale erosion.

stratthinker, Ars Technica 14 Comments [7/8/2017 6:17:09 AM]
Fundie Index: 8
Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 129014

Though most paedophile-child relationships are chaste there is a significant proportion in which the child wishes for, and consents to, intimacy.

One of the fallacious uses of language common in the popular discourse round this issue is to talk about paedophiles wanting, or having, ‘Sex’ with children. To most non-paedophiles ‘sex’ means ‘intercourse’ and so by a leap of logic the public thinks of paedophiles as wanting to have intercourse with children. This is wrong. What the typical paedophiles think of as ‘sex’ differs from what adult teleiophiles consider as ‘sex’.

The most important difference is that any form of penetration cannot have the same place it has in adult-adult relationships: the typical paedophile would not wish to do anything that the child would not enjoy, be hurt by or that would betray the trust and friendship shared by the adult and child.

Rather than the adult imposing his desires on the child it is very much about allowing the child to determine what takes place and responding to the child’s interest, – much as an adult playing football with a 7-year old adapts his mode of play to ensure that the experience is enjoyable and constructive for the child so does a caring paedophile.

Essentially what most ‘turns on’ a paedophile is a happy, relaxed child who is herself turned-on and enjoying herself – forcing or manipulating a child would be repugnant to the normal paedophile.

‘Sexual’ activities, if they occur at all, range from playful sensuality (tickling, kissing and stroking…) to acts that would be classed as ‘foreplay’ in the context of adult-adult sex.

Leonard Sisyphus Mann, consentinghumans 16 Comments [7/8/2017 6:16:48 AM]
Fundie Index: 10

Quote# 129013

We should be doing everything and anything to overturn the indoctrination of the young- with the classic 'good touch vs bad touch".
These days they are indoctrinating ever younger children with this nonsense.
Even before they enter primary schooling.
In kindergarten or daycare, this obnoxious notion is being infused into the impressionable little minds.
A child that is positive about physicality at three may assume the opposing views at four- it is what they teach them.
This is truly sad.

hieronymouse, BoyChat 25 Comments [7/8/2017 6:16:41 AM]
Fundie Index: 9

Quote# 129006

(Link is to quote of post, as it's invisible to those not logged in to Ars)

Ya'll are from the pages of la la land in your replies. The scientific method is based in evolution which is just a THEORY. No proof that it ever occurred. In fact it is impossible by its own rules. The scientific method states that it MUST be able to be repeated with the exact same results. There is NOT one pig giving birth to anything EXCEPT ANOTHER PIG. When GOD created the universe He commanded every creation to bear offspring after it's own kind. That is the way it will always be. Even trees bear seed that produces trees of the same kind as the parent tree. It's only when so-called scientists started trying to "improve" a species that there are things like killer bees.
These "scientists" are the quacks.
Just because you don't believe the Bible's record does not mean you are right. All of the record of our past is His Story.

Read the story about the rain that proves geology doesn't always have to take a long time. Right here in America. The Colorado River area. Proves that the Young Earth creationism is not as far fetched as y'all are trying to make it.

Me Too Now, Ars Technica 13 Comments [7/8/2017 6:02:09 AM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 129004

Free history lesson ? Hitler's infamous 1933 book burnings were retold by the winners of the war as the quintessential example of tyranny.


When in fact the chief purpose of the book burnings were to eradicate the manuscripts of one psychologist, Dr Magnus Hirschfeld


Dr Hirschfeld coined the term "transsexual" & had operated the subversive organization "Institut für Sexualwissenschaft" since 1919


This institute performed the world's first sex change operation. I can find little on Hirschfeld's book calling for "solution" to racism


Look what is happening around you. And read this transcripted speech by Joseph Goebbels on that very important night


This wasn't some drastic reaction to people's poor sweet identities.. THEY KNEW WHAT WAS COMING, & WHY they want a disassociated slave class

zyklonbeast, Twitter 15 Comments [7/7/2017 10:08:52 PM]
Fundie Index: 8

Quote# 129002

one-single-verse asked:

Also: thoughts on deism as a belief system? What other sort of philosophical frameworks are acceptable in/compatible with/encompassing of Christian law?

Deism more or less suggests God abandoned His children which I find rather offensive speech in reference to my Father.

Again, speaking from a strictly religious angle? None. Non-Christians cannot abide by Christian Law because the centerpiece is being Saved!

But translated over to state law, I think practicing Jews/Buddhists/Sikhs, and Right-wing Atheists/Agnostics/Pagans have a good chance of assimilating to a Christian Law based country depending on some details. Hinduism expresses a rigid caste system and I Indian culture tends to be very abusive towards women (I don’t know if that’s a Hindu or an Indian thing) and Islam has its obvious problems. All the above have the very real potential for conflict with the system, but I think assimilation probabilities would be significant.

apostalism, Tumblr 5 Comments [7/7/2017 10:08:35 PM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 129001

Adam Ford, Adam4d 17 Comments [7/7/2017 10:08:25 PM]
Fundie Index: 7
Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 129000

Adam Ford, Adam4d 24 Comments [7/7/2017 10:08:21 PM]
Fundie Index: 8
Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 128999

Adam Ford, Adam4d 14 Comments [7/7/2017 10:08:13 PM]
Fundie Index: 8
Submitted By: Daspletosaurus
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