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Quote# 129563

Florida Firearms Manufacturer Creates Christian Rifle

Apopka, FL based Spike’s Tactical has created a new AR-15 rifle that is specifically designed to prevent Islamic Terrorists from using it. The rifle is called the Tactical Crusader and is marked with Christian symbols and quotes a bible verse from the book of Psalms that reads:

“Blessed be the Lord my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle”

Psalm 144:1
Spike's Tactical Crusader

Spike’s Tactical Crusader

The safety position of the rifle is called “Peace” and the fire position is called “War”, with a 3rd “fun switch” position called “God Wills It”. On the other side of the receiver, the positions are the same, but written in Latin. Company spokesman, former Navy SEAL Ben “Mookie” Thomas said he came up with the idea for the rifle and believes that no devout Muslim would touch such a weapon. Off the cuff, he said “I’d like to have a gun that is a Muslim terrorist picked it up a bolt of lightning would hit and knock him dead!” Spike’s Tactical has a long history of support for the Military and employees many veterans within the organization.

The RAW Scoop is this. We absolutely love this rifle and what it stands for. Personally, we would have added Luke 11:21 on the other side of the magazine well just for good measure. “When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are safe;”

We do not usually promote companies or items on RAW, but with this rifle and the current conditions of the country and the world around us, this is a company we would fully support. Of course, Spike’s Tactical are receiving backlash and push back from Muslim and Islamic activists groups as a “weapon of hate” and “creates further division with Christian Muslim relations”. While it may be gimmicky to a point, it is still symbolic of the days and conditions we live in. Tell us what you think about the rifle?

Spike’s Tactical, Raw Conservative 17 Comments [7/21/2017 1:20:13 AM]
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Submitted By: DiarrheaMan

Quote# 129562

So disgusting "James" was back on MMfA. Here're today's gems of wingnuttery.

• a few seconds ago

Obama niggér B747 • a minute ago

Your kind wishes GOP shot & killed.

Phil Montag, democrat was happy Majority Whip Steve Scalise was shot at a congressional baseball game practice and wished the Louisiana Republican was dead. How many of your kind celebrated with him?

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Obama niggér Indy • in a few seconds

What, still not good enough. Keep in mind, 90% of the time here is disrespecting his Eminence Trump.

Look at it in one of 2 ways.

Folks do it, coz they want it back

or

Since they do it, it must be ok.

Obama niggér B747 • a few seconds ago

I hate everyone.

Why do your kind hate gays?

bama niggér waggs03 • a few seconds ago

Because you suck trånny nigger cøck, thats why


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Obama niggér Obama niggér • in a few seconds

LOL

Obama niggér StratRat • a few seconds ago

Do you suck off that cat?

Obama niggér • a minute ago

< < Michelle Obama

Michelle, please plow me in the ass with your ebola ridden trånny niggér cøck.

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Obama niggér dld • a few seconds ago

So no real reason, except for your filthy degenerate diseased depraved sense of pig liberal logic

Obama niggér • in a few seconds

MMMM, liberals, who wants me to puke in your ass?

Afterwards I will ass fuck you.

Obama niggér GOPvsUSA3 • a few seconds ago

He had aids, was a liberal, had a trånny niggér fake cøck hanging out of his ass


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Red Rose • 3 minutes ago

03272017: Three Oklahoma kids, future liberals, thinking other folks property belongs to them, killed with an AR15.

Gotta love this. And we got away with killing your kind, AGAIN!

Red Rose BigBearcatBill • 10 minutes ago

Funny your kind think Bill is clean since he shoved cigars up a lil girl.

Your kind

Captain Freedom • 12 minutes ago

Liberals are OK with OJ Simpson being released into the public, after he has proven to not be reformed or repentant, by stealing cookies in prison and smirking about it

Red Rose solon • 17 minutes ago

You are nothing but a whiny cum laden queer.

Red Rose Finnibar87 • 17 minutes ago

And our dogs got blow jobs from you


Red Rose • 4 minutes ago

California liberal, Matthew Warner, convicted of fucking then murdering his 3 week year
old daughter. Just as the filthy degenerate depraved diseased pig liberals blame an entire state on the actions of one, the same must be done here. Maybe Matthew wanted the baby aborted, decided the baby needed raped, couldn’t wait for an illegal to do, so he did it.

Liberals, anything degenerate will do.

Red Rose • 7 minutes ago

TREASONUS LIBERALS BLOCKING TRAFFIC THREATENING CORRECT THINKING AMERICANS. CORRECT THINKERS RUN OVER DISEASED LIBERALS. NO CHARGES FILED AGAINST THE CORRECT THINKERS.

Red Rose • a minute ago

Nemias Garcia-Velasco, illegal alien, deported 7 times, drunk driving, kills father of three.

Thank you liberals for giving aid & comfort to illegal’s in sanctuary cities.

Liberals, anything degenerate will do.

ed Rose TMax01 • 9 minutes ago

So you suck cøck on school play grounds?

Red Rose JimWolf359 • a few seconds ago

Democrat State Senator Kevin de Leon calls democrats morally repugnant.

Democrat congress woman Corrine Brown faces fraud charges which could land her in prison for 300 years. Out of $800,000.00 she collected for its charity, only $2,400.00 was spent on charities. The rest she spent on its own filthy degenerate depraved disgusting pig liberal self.

Liberals, anything degenerate will do.

Red Rose • a few seconds ago

Dan Grilo, worked for both Hillary & Obama attacks Carryn Owens, widower of slain seal
William Ryan Owens, calling her an idiot. Your typical filthy degenerate depraved diseased disgusting mentally ill pig liberal.

Red Rose • 2 minutes ago

Rachel Anne Dolezal, a filthy degenerate depraved diseased pig liberal to pretended to be black to get a job at the NACCP, has changed its name to Amare Nkechi Diallo. Which means filthy degenerate trånny nigger in African.

What is wrong with filthy degenerate liberals these days?

Red Rose • a few seconds ago

Baltimore liberal Judge Nicole Taylor releases 18 year old man, after being arrested three times since January 1st for gun & drugs charges. This filthy liberal places no value on American lives as do the rest of liberals dont. It placed restrictions on this 18 year old male nigger, like 1am curfew, etc, etc, but did not think of protecting its fellow Americans from this thug. A day after this nigger was released it was running away from cops with a gun and in his hand. Justifiably the cop shot this thug three times dispatching him into the lap of God. What is wrong with filthy liberals, they give aid & comfort to illegal’s who kill their fellow Americans, now they are releasing thugs from jail to give them another
chance to kill us.

Red Rose • a minute ago

Nancy Piglosi & Elijah Cum in my ear, going on about scapegoat. Piglosi, “Do you know what a scapegoat is? It’s a goat, that we filthy liberals & fucked in the ass Democrats, cum & shit on, and fuck in the asshøle. Then we grease ourselves up, smear lipstick
on our åsses, and chase it down. And at the stroke of midnight, we eat it, while fisting ourselves.

Later, they apologized for letting out trade secrets.

"James" and his various sockpuppets, Media Matters For America 7 Comments [7/21/2017 1:10:05 AM]
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Submitted By: DiarrheaMan

Quote# 129561

Lik always devil twzting up mixing up confusing and fucking up the WORLD knowledge to take yall for a trip of ur life to an ETERNALTY in hell , er yall rather see another day of LIFE by dying in CHRIST you'll see wat he made of once yu pass to next level of the AFTERLIFE, yall judge it for y'all self don't let devil trick y'all

Asael Galvin, Facebook 15 Comments [7/21/2017 1:06:37 AM]
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Quote# 129560

Still think the Breivik trolling is retarded.


That's because you are considerably less intelligent than I am. It's not trolling. It is a probabilistic prediction. IF the West wins and survives, Breivik will be a massive hero.

If he does not become a hero, then the West did not survive.

I suggest you look at the men to whom the statues are raised in most capital cities. More than a few are confirmed killers.

Vox Day, Vox Popoli 11 Comments [7/21/2017 1:05:07 AM]
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Submitted By: David

Quote# 129558

[Describing Teen Vogue's anal sex article]

A clear case of mass obscenity aimed at impressionable underaged young Americans and should be treated as a case that requires immediate attention by investigation, lawful arrest, charging and punishment handed out to anyone else who knowingly sends explicit obscene solicitations to young people in this country.

Eugene Delgaudio, Public Advocate of the United States 10 Comments [7/21/2017 12:54:27 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129557

Heavenly Father, it is time for you to act, for your law is being broken! This policy must be rejected: it brazenly defies You, God our Creator, and Your fixed, eternal moral laws. We defied your definition of marriage, now we defy the very apex of your created order, mankind created in your own image, male and female. Please forgive us, extend Your mercy to us, and grant us repentance. You who bless nations that obey You, and curse nations that disobey you; You who promise battleground victory to those who obey you, but defeat to all who disobey, have mercy! Grant repentance to President Trump and Secretary Mattis for even considering to keep this wicked policy in place. Grant them understanding, courage, and willpower to stand up to the forces of darkness that gave birth to it and wholly to repeal it. Save our young men and women who are already living under this tyranny. Save our children from the predictable impact of this policy. May Your people not only pray, but rise and use every tool they possess as American citizens to preempt this policy. Please correct the members of Congress who used their votes to enable and fund it. We appeal to You! In Jesus’ name, Amen.

Watchmen on the Wall, Family Research Council 11 Comments [7/21/2017 12:53:21 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129556

People who are trying to normalize the sin of homosexuality as an identity and even change the definition of marriage to accommodate what God called an abomination” are “wicked."

Peter LaBarbera, One News Now 11 Comments [7/21/2017 12:53:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129555

(commenting on story "Atheist Activist Group Takes Issue With Alabama Police Department's Mix of God with Government"):

Oboehner:
Shows the hypocrisy of one religion claiming rights over another, nothing more.

Zampogna:
Atheism is a religion just like baldness is a hair color.

Oboehner:
Baldness is a scalp condition like atheism is a religion.

Zampogna:
Yes, bald men suffer from male pattern scalp condition. One of your analogies is bound not to fall on its face if you keep trying.

Oboehner:
The hair color analogy is blocking the fall as it face-planted the moment it hit cyberspace.

Zampogna:
Atheism is the absence of religion. I know what you're attempting, to turn all rational and scientific beliefs into matters of faith. And they aren't. And even if they were, they at least attempt to make attempts to understand by studying and not just saying Goddidit. As you are clearly doing but lack the honesty to admit.

Oboehner:
Yeah right, the "we really don't care one way or the other" activist group, LOL
I know what you're attempting, to turn matters of faith into scientific beliefs . And they aren't. At least attempt to understand by studying and not just saying anexplodingdotdidit. As you are clearly doing but lack the honesty to admit.

Zampogna:
These ARE scientific beliefs, and you're trying to level the playing field by putting them on the same level as your ancient holy book. They couldn't be more different. Your holy book gets absolutely no scrutiny whatsoever and just demands you believe it. That's you. Science tests and re-tests and examines and studies over and over. That's my group. And I'm proud to be part of it.

Oboehner:
My "Holy Book" is an admitted matter of faith, it is not taught at taxpayer expense in government schools. Science can "test and re-test" all they want, if the belief and the flawed system they use never changes... You can be proud of whatever you like, that doesn't make it science, or even one bit true - you have only blind faith.

Oboehner, Christian News Network 10 Comments [7/21/2017 12:43:15 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 129553

The Communist Party of China, the nation’s governing party, says its members must give up religious beliefs and “be firm Marxist atheists.”

Wang Zuoan, the director of the State Administration for Religious Affairs, wrote on Saturday that religious members should give up their faith in order to preserve party unity.

“Party members should not have religious beliefs, which is a red line for all members… Party members should be firm Marxist atheists, obey Party rules and stick to the Party’s faith… they are not allowed to seek value and belief in religion.”

Wang added that foreign forces use religion to “infiltrate China” and that extremism has “threatened national security and social stability.”

“Religions should be sinicized… We should guide religious groups and individuals with socialist core values and excellent traditional Chinese culture and support religious groups to dig into their doctrines to find parts that are beneficial to social harmony and development.”

This isn’t just one crazy government official banning religion and requiring “Marxist atheism.” Zhu Weiqun, chairman of the Ethnic and Religious Committee of the Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference, said it is “important” to remind party members not to have religious beliefs.

“Some people who claim to be scholars support religious beliefs in the Party, which has undermined the Party’s values based on dialectical materialism.”

Communist Party of China, Patheos 9 Comments [7/21/2017 12:29:58 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129552

Inmates in White County, Tennessee have been given credit for their jail time if they voluntarily agree to have a vasectomy or birth control implant, a popular new program that is being called “unconstitutional” by the ACLU.

On May 15, 2017 General Sessions Judge Sam Benningfield signed a standing order that allows inmates to receive 30 days credit toward jail time if they undergo a birth control procedure.

Women who volunteer to participate in the program are given a free Nexplanon implant in their arm, the implant helps prevent pregnancies for up to four years. Men who volunteer to participate are given a vasectomy, free of charge, by the Tennessee Department of Health.

County officials said that since the program began a few months ago 32 women have gotten the Nexplananon implant and 38 men were waiting to have the vasectomy procedure performed.

Judge Benningfield told NewsChannel 5 that he was trying to break a vicious cycle of repeat offenders who constantly come into his courtroom on drug related charges, subsequently can’t afford child support and have trouble finding jobs.

“I hope to encourage them to take personal responsibility and give them a chance, when they do get out, to not to be burdened with children. This gives them a chance to get on their feet and make something of themselves,” Judge Benningfield said in an interview.

First elected in 1998, Judge Benningfield decided to implement the program after speaking with officials at the Tennessee Department of Health.

“I understand it won’t be entirely successful but if you reach two or three people, maybe that’s two or three kids not being born under the influence of drugs. I see it as a win, win,” he added.
Inmates in the White County jail were also given two days credit toward their jail sentence if they complete a State of Tennessee, Department of Health Neonatal Syndrome Education Program. The class aimed to educate those who are incarcerated about the dangers of having children while under the influence of drugs.

“Hopefully while they’re staying here we rehabilitate them so they never come back,” the judge said.

District Attorney Bryant Dunaway, who oversees prosecution of cases in White County is worried the program may be unethical and possibly illegal.

“It’s concerning to me, my office doesn’t support this order,” Dunaway said.

“It’s comprehensible that an 18-year-old gets this done, it can’t get reversed and then that impacts the rest of their life,” he added.

On Wednesday, the ACLU released this statement on the program:

"Offering a so-called 'choice' between jail time and coerced contraception or sterilization is unconstitutional. Such a choice violates the fundamental constitutional right to reproductive autonomy and bodily integrity by interfering with the intimate decision of whether and when to have a child, imposing an intrusive medical procedure on individuals who are not in a position to reject it. Judges play an important role in our community – overseeing individuals’ childbearing capacity should not be part of that role."

Sam Benningfield, News Channel 5 13 Comments [7/21/2017 12:28:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 129550


(Transscript:
Fat woman: "Resist!"
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Woman in suit: "Impeach!"
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Gladiators: "Why can't we win!?!"
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Child: "This is the worst circus ever, Mom."

Mother: "You'll enjoy it more when you're older.")

Fedorable-Art, DeviantArt 8 Comments [7/21/2017 12:27:52 AM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 129549


(Transscript:
Girl: "Excuse me, would you mind signing this petition to end college tuition?"
Man: "That depends, who's going to pay for your "free" college?"
Girl: *speechless*
Woman: "You haven't taken economics yet, have you?"
Girl: "Economics? What's that?")

Economics isn't politcally correct (as if I was supposed to give a fuck about pc bullshit anyways) oh, and petitions are worthless and any bleeding heart dumb enough to think that a piece of paper with a few signatures on it will make a difference needs to check back into reality.

Fedorable-Art, DeviantArt 14 Comments [7/21/2017 12:27:39 AM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 129548


(Transscript:
Woman, asking two children in sandbox: "What are you two making?"
Child 1: "A wall for our sand castle".
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Woman: "A wall!?! Don't you shitlords know walls are bad!?! Ugh, I need a safespace to escape this triggering!"
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(sandbox and Child 1 have vanished)
Child 2: "If you hate walls, why do you need a safe space?"
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(Woman unconscious on gurney in featureless void, with a trendy teenager and a doctor standing besides her)
Teenager: "I've never seen a triggering of this magnitude!"
Doctor: "We'll need to put her on a Tumblr IV ASAP.")

Fedorable-Art, DeviantArt 10 Comments [7/21/2017 12:26:54 AM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: The Reptilian Jew

Quote# 129546

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Natural Man CAN NOT Understand God NOR His Word"

I always marvel when saints attempt to debate scripture with nonbelievers. It's as if the two are speaking two different languages and that is because biblically the carnal man does not understand spiritual matters. God is a spirit and those who worship Him MUST worship Him in spirit and in truth. Reprobates read the Holy Bible seeking something to attack God and Christians with, but the believer reads the Holy Bible to learn of God and draw nigh unto Him. God weighs the heart of a man, his intentions. There is no wonder that the things of God are hidden (in the open) from the wicked.

Typically in those exchanges the unbeliever posts an off topic/out of context scripture that usually includes an insult/jab at saints and Jesus Christ. Then the believer tries to make sense of the unbelievers outrageous/off topic/out of context twisting of scripture (note, this is usually an intentional red herring) and continue on topic in an attempt to bring a lost person to Jesus Christ. If entertained, this ultimately changes the topic and gets away from the topic of salvation to some silly outrageous/off topic/out of context twisted exchange on eating shellfish, bigamy or mixing fabrics (note, it is always an Old Testament something that has been done away with and clarified in the New Testament (note the New Testament contradicts that shellfish thing as well as their other distractions (proving they have not searched the scripture for truth, but are simply regurgitating an off topic/out of context scripture to stop the discussion topic, i.e., threadjack): 1 Timothy 4, Matthew 15:11: Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man, and that each man should have his OWN wife {singular}, etc.).

I offer that the reprobate, led by the enemy, intentionally tries to discredit scripture/God's truth. He is hoping that the Christian casting pearls before him is weak/not confident in his faith so that he (the reprobate) may sow confusion and cause others to doubt God's truth and compromise, i.e., sell the truth and buy a lie. But, Lord forbid. We are fully persuaded in Jesus name.

Clearly, there is NO explaining their confusion in the natural. I've noticed a couple of mods (who claim to be Christians) have recruited homosexuals, satanists, witches, etc. to mod and control the discussions on their channel's. Those lost individuals often abuse the brethren and heavily censor them and God's Truth. May I ask, what fellowship does light have with dark? The darkness does not even comprehend light.

Where does scripture support casting pearls before swine? Please cite chapter and verse.

(irrelevant scripture deleted)

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified.Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.
God bless.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 29 Comments [7/20/2017 10:44:21 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 129543

Do you know that Atropa Belladonna (I think of PLANT) REALY can filtrate human population, and exterminate all carnists in world? Yes, and do you know why? That's because meats of animals who eats THAT plant (milk and eggs, too) are POISONOUS for humans who eat tham... But Atropa Belladona isn't poisonuos for animals... ;) You know, one time I was thinking about that as an solution... ;)

Jelena Jeja Koss, Facebook 16 Comments [7/20/2017 10:43:46 AM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129542

It's obvious that when liberals can't come up with a coherent rebuttal, they resort to calling their opponents "trolls." It's quite sad, really, because it represents the dumbing down of culture that is manifested by the fact that we are using scantily clad women to sell the double bacon cheeseburgers that are causing our people to be unhealthy and obese. The Episcopal Church keeps on declining, yet clergy won't rethink their approval of homosexuality. Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results, and liberalism is a mental disorder.--Elvis is King (talk) 21:35, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

James Wilson , RationalWiki 13 Comments [7/20/2017 10:43:30 AM]
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Quote# 129540

(Thread topic: The authorities in Saudi Arabia are investigating a young woman who posted a video of herself wearing a miniskirt and crop-top in public, etc.)

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Mister Spak:

Hey Aisha, want to tell me again women in Saudi Arabia can be in public without sharia mummy wrappings?

Just read on the news she has been arrested.

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A’isha:

@Mister Spak

You do realize there’s an entire specrtum of Islamic dress for women between a burqa and what this woman was wearing, right? It’s not a binary choice, even in Saudi Arabia.

As I recall, last time I even gave you a link to a video featuring a Saudi woman wearing neither a burqa nor even a niqab traveling with a non-mahram man around her country.

Saudi Arabia is full of fundamentalist religious assholes who do more than enough religious assholish things without you needing to make additional crap up about it.

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Mister Spak:

@A’isha:
"Saudi Arabia is full of fundamentalist religious assholes who do more than enough religious assholish things without you needing to make additional crap up about it."


I don’t make up the news. She was arrested for not wearing a black bag with eyeholes and your crap excuses don’t change that. And Islam will not change as long as its victims make up crap excuses for it.

@A’isha:
"As I recall, last time I even gave you a link to a video"


As I recall I said I was not going to watch a hour long travel vid searching for your crap excuses.

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Vman:

@A’isha

Ignore the Spak. The raging asshole seems to be going full speed ahead down the path of NeoMatrix: that is, he’s losing what’s left of his brain and becoming a full-blown atheist fundie.

By the way... I haven’t got around to welcoming you to FSTDT (until now). I don’t think you’ve been here long, right? In any case, you seem to have your head on straight from what I’ve seen, so I hope you stay around.

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Mister Spak:

@Vman:
" In any case, you seem to have your head on straight from what I’ve seen,"


Did you miss the part where a news item is me making up crap about islam? You seem to be losing what’s left of your brain.

A’isha is making simultaneously denying what islam does and making excuses for what islam does. That’s a sign of a fundie lying. I call them out on this aggressively because being polite about it is an invitation to the fundie to take advantage of weakness.

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Vman:

@Mister Spak

You just keep telling yourself that, bub. *pats head*

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Mister Spak:

@Vman


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A’isha:

@Vman

Thank you!

@Mister Spak

Saudi Arabia is ruled by a conservative, fundamentalist Wahhabi form of Islam, and any woman walking around in a crop top and miniskirt there is going to be in trouble from the religious police: absolutely true.

All women in Saudi Arabia have to wear burqa or at least cover their face: false.

And I should keep track of the number of times I’ve been accused of taqiyyah simply because I point out that there’s not only one single kind of Islam in the first place, much less disagree that the Saudi fundie asshole brand is the One True Proper Islam.

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Mister Spak:

@A’isha:
@Vman

Thank you!

@Mister Spak

"All women in Saudi Arabia have to wear burqa or at least cover their face: false."


And yet she was arrested for not doing it. Then you accused me of making up crap.

@A’isha:
"much less disagree that the Saudi fundie asshole brand is the One True Proper Islam."


But if you disagree you get put in a Saudi dungeon and flogged.
When I hear you are flogging the mutts for arresting skirt wearers we can revisit the issue of what islam is. Until then, we know what it is.

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Vman:

Spak, dear, I’ve been on the Internet for a while. I can recognize when arguing with someone is a lost cause. In your case, it’s largely because you apparently misunderstand even the most basic thoughts. When elementary reading comprehension is beyond your abilities, there’s just no point in bothering.

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A’isha:

@Mister Spak

"And yet she was arrested for not doing it. Then you accused me of making up crap."

Did you miss what I wrote above, or are you just pretending you I never said it? Again, even in Saudi Arabia it’s not a binary choice between "burqa" and "miniskirt", but there’s a range of Islamic dress for women.

"But if you disagree you get put in a Saudi dungeon and flogged."

I certainly disagree, as do all the Muslims I know, both members of my family and unrelated to me. So far, there’s been a distinct lack of floggings, in dungeons or otherwise.

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Mister Spak:

Vman dear I have been debating fundies in real life for a while. I can recognize when someone is being willfully stupid in order to "win" an argument. In your case it’s largely because you are offended when I treat the fundie the way the fundie is treating me. You become unable to understand even the most basic thoughts. When fundies do this it is profitable to give them every opportunity to demonstrate their willful stupidity over and over.

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Vman:

@A’isha

I believe his failure to understand is genuine. It’s not that he’s purposefully ignoring what you said; rather, he cannot process it because it clashes with his fixed idea on what Muslims are. In order for his opinion to stay unassailable, your words have to mean something else than what you intended (and actually wrote).

In a sense, it’s the perfect stance for him - this way, he doesn’t have to actually examine and question his own views. In his view:
- he’s right
- you’re a fundie
- therefore you’re wrong
- end of story.

There is literally no way you can convince him. You are wrong by default.

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Mister Spak:

@Vman

"- he’s right
- you’re a infidel/heathen/atheist/liberal/methodological materialist
- therefore you’re wrong
- end of story."

Yes, that’s standard fundie behavior. When I get that from fundies I give it right back to them. Their first response is to do more of the same because that’s the only kind of "thinking" fundies can do. But when all they can get out of me is the same shit they’re giving me the cognitive dissonance begins.

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Vman:

@Mister Spak

And just when did A’isha display this ’standard fundie behavior’, pray tell? Because somehow I failed to see it. But maybe I’m just blind or an Islamic fundie who refuses to understand the criticism aimed at his own religion... wait no, I’m an atheist. One who has precisely zero motive to pretty up Islam’s image (indeed, I actually have a very good personal reason to dislike Islamist fundamentalism!).

So maybe, just maybe, the problem isn’t in my comprehension...

P.S. The only person calling you ’infidel’ so far, Mr Spak, has been yourself. Indeed, in various quote threads you’ve been building up an Islamic strawman, having it attack you, then attributing these attacks (of your own origin!) to other people.
You may very well be the second greatest champion of putting words in other people’s mouths on this site - the first, of course, being the wannabe literal motherfucker from my country, who shall not be named lest we summon him again.

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Mister Spak:

@Vman
" somehow I failed to see it. But maybe I’m just blind "

You got it. You’re not only blind you’re deaf because I told you what it was. You don’t even need to look for it yourself.

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Vman:

@Mister Spak

Oh, I saw everything you wrote. I just think your accusations are false and baseless.

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Mister Spak, FSTDT 18 Comments [7/20/2017 4:56:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129538

Outside the internet, I have always kept quiet about my reasons to refuse to consume meat, eat sushi, wear leather shoes or eat jello. I have never wanted to be the "militant vegan" - people would offer me bacon doughnuts or meat lovers pizza and I would smile and say "no thank you" - fuck - I would even lie saying "I'm already full" as my reason in order to avoid any conversation about the realities of animal exploitation with friends, strangers and people from work.

Attempting to approach the subject rationally, scientifically, with real data from public sources like the FDA or a large University still devolved into the meat eaters yelling pseudoscience ("plants scream when you eat them") and anti-intellectualism ("yeah, but bacon! AM I RIGHT GUYS? HAHAHA") - which taught me very, very quickly that I should hide, hide, hide and fucking run and hide.

But the truth is, I think we may be approaching a point of no-return: in which no one -meat eater or vegan- will be able to run nor hide.
The oceans are becoming polluted and acidic while the sum of humanity feeds upon the delicate eco-system within. If the oceans collapse - we may risk losing the largest oxygen producer on the planet: phytoplankton, which contribute between 50 to 85 percent of the oxygen in Earth’s atmosphere
Around 1.4 billion cows emit methane which, pound for pound, has an impact on global warming 25 times greater than CO2 over a 100-year period.

80 percent of all antibiotics sold in the United States are for use on livestock and poultry, not humans. Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) is a antibiotic resistant bacteria which I have personally seen outbreak at my town's hospital. How long before a super resistant strain evolves from extreme exposure to antibiotics in livestock? If life uh... finds a way- then I don't want to be anywhere near the evolution of a new bacteria.

Population expansion: As worldwide population increases, we could begin to see wars fought solely over fresh water. If we look at California we might be seeing our first glimpse at a disturbing future. First we must recognize a few scientific realities:
1 - 10x more people can be fed on one unit of land with a vegan diet than the current omnivore diet.
2 - 47% of water in California goes to animal agriculture.
3 - Climate change, and specifically the trapping of heat in the atmosphere through carbon and methane is real.
1960- 3 Billion humans. 1990- 5.2 Billion humans. 2014- 7 Billion humans.

So if trends continue, could we see a drought and famine stricken India invade Bangladesh to get to the Brahmaputra River? Will Thailand, Burma and Cambodia attempt gorilla warfare with China over the disappearing Mekong River when their populations start starving? Will more nations follow suit as population growth next to the inefficiency of meat eating unintentionally promote famines?

The more I study the more it becomes clear that humanity is running the most dangerous experiments in the history of the world: How much carbon and methane can we pump into our atmosphere before the life support systems on our planet fail? How much antibiotics can we pump into for-food animals before a dangerous microbe evolves from them? How much can the 196 perfectly regulated countries of the world fish the 140 million square miles of ocean before a key link in the oceans eco-systems upsets the balance and we see phytoplankton die offs? How much rainforest do we need to destroy to produce soybeans to feed for-food animals before we see a dust bowl disaster a la the 1930's?

I do not think we are at a point of no return. But we must guard ourselves in the knowledge that the point of no return won't be some super loud event like seeing a massive asteroid in the sky. It will be sitting in the office on some idle Tuesday, sipping coffee, and typing up some fictional report for a fictional corporation - while the ecosystem - the real life out there silently tips over the breaking point. We won't get a text alert. No memo.

It will be as silent as the last Dodo bird dying. When is that point of no return: 100 years from now? 50? 10? I have no clue. But I think we are all in the same boat. And if we don't all agree that the current is taking us away from shore - there will be a point in which - no matter how hard we try to paddle - there will be no possibility of making it back to shore.

So - are we coming to the end of the Neutral Vegan? Am I insane? Are the vegan redditors that say "It's just a diet! I eat plants my boyfriend eats meat" unmistaken? Or are we on an express elevator to hell - in which silence toward and the acceptance of meat in society will lead to the demise of our species. Will mother nature go door to door doing surveys of who promoted the imbalance and give sanction to all the vegans or kill humanity in entirety?

Will we be laying in bed dying naturally of old age 50 years from now while the tempest of a dust storm blows outside the house, whispering that the luxury of death by old age will not be given to the children gathered around our bed?
Or maybe those silent vegans like me can start calmly, patiently talking about the importance of veganism. With patience, a cool-headed approach, and small doses of reality... maybe we can change course.

Ghoztt, r/vegan 14 Comments [7/20/2017 4:55:44 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129537

Why would you want to be with someone who isnt veg/vegan? The fact he is exposed to the lifestyle and willfully chooses not to become part shows a complete lack of morals or compassion. I don't see how you could come to like such a person honestly. Frankly im disgusted by the thought of a meat eater getting their mouth anywhere near mine.

Deus_Imperator, r/vegan 8 Comments [7/20/2017 4:55:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129536

This just makes me confused, because I personally don't understand how you can be really good friends with someone who eats animals. It's like being friends with someone who kicks their dog, only it's not just hurting the dog, it's literally destroying the planet. Personally, I am on the hunt for non-religious plant-based friendships, because those are the only people I can respect and see in a positive light.

Of course I understand it's a process, and I take pride in planting seeds along my journey, but someone who outright refuses to educate themselves and denies what I say and acts like I'm ridiculous; those people are not people I could ever consider friends. Was actually told today by someone on here that "all forms of extremists are dangerous"... yeah, because having so much compassion for animals and the fucking planet that I consider the effects of my choices every single day could somehow be harmful. Crazy.

littlebratinsocal, r/vegan 10 Comments [7/20/2017 4:55:33 AM]
Fundie Index: 8
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129535

There are various types of demons. They have structure, ranks, functions and orders. There are powers, principalities, evil forces in this world and spiritual wickedness in high places. Some categories are spirit guides, fallen angels, wizards, ghosts, phantoms, vampires, spooks, genii, monsters, sylphs, aliens, gnomes, imps, demons, devils, nature spirits and evil spirits (male and female). Gnomes would include dwarfs, elves and minihunes which are one of the four divisions of earth spirits. Nature spirits have to do with fire, water, wind and earth. Evil spirits work in different areas such as magic.

[...]

I break these curses and those that follow in The Name Of THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

Mistreating God's Chosen People, Willing Deceivers; Adultery, Harlotry and Prostitution; Disobedience to Bible, Idolatry, Keeping Cursed Objects, Refusing To Fight For God, House of Wicked, Not Giving To Poor, Stealing, Swearing Falsely By God, Failing To Give Glory to God, Robbing God of Tithes, Dishonoring Parents, Hearkening to Wives Rather Than God, Making Graven Images, Cheating People Out of Property, Taking Advantage of Blind; Oppressing Strangers, Widows and Orphans; Bestiality, Incest With Sister or Mother, Murder Secretly and For Hire, Pride, Putting Trust In Man, Doing The Work of God Deceitfully, Rewarding Evil For Good, Abortion and Causing Unborn To Die,

Having Bastards, Murdering Indirectly, Striking Parents, Kidnapping, Cursing Parents, Not Preventing Death, Sacrificing to Gods, Witchcraft, Turning Someone Away From God, Following Horoscopes, Rebelling Against Pastors, Losing Virginity Before Marriage, False Prophets, Rape, Not Disciplining Children, Teaching Rebellion Against God, Cursing Rulers, Refusing To Warn Sinners, Defiling The Sabbath, Sacrificing Humans, Seances and Fortune Telling, Intercourse During Menstruation, Homosexuals and Lesbians, Necromancers,

Blaspheming Lord's Name, Being Carnally Minded, Oral and Anal Sex, Children Rebelling, Nonproductivity, Fugitive and Vagabond, Improper Family Structure, Destruction of Family Priesthood, Refusing To Do The Word of God, Family Disorder, Failure and Poverty, Sins Worthy of Death, Touching God's Anointed, Perversion of Gospel, Loving Cursing, Choosing That Which God Delights Not In, Looking To World For Help, Stubbornness and Rebellion, Offending Children Believing CHRIST, Adding To and Taking Away From Bible, and Biblical Curses not listed Above.

[...]

ALMIGHTY GOD, I ask that you forgive me for having cursed objects in my home. Show me by THE HOLY SPIRIT what to destroy:

1. Books and objects associated with witchcraft and Satan's Kingdom.
2. Sinful activities of former residents left curses.
3. Knocking and noisy ghosts and apparitions (poltergeist phenomenon).
4. Owl and frog images.
5. Witch's masks and fetishes used by witch and fetish doctors.
6. Objects and literature that pertain to false religions, cult religions (Christian Science, Jehovah's Witnesses, metaphysics, etc.), the occult and spiritism.
7. Graven images of gods (represent demons).
8. Idols and artifacts dedicated to demons.
9. Ouija boards and other occult paraphernalia.
10. Prayers to and worship of demons bring curses.
11.Rings, bracelets, necklaces, charms and other jewelry given to a person by someone in witchcraft.
12.Hex signs, and ancient geometric and mystical motifs being incorporated into designs for clothing, jewelry, decorative objects and china.
13.Rings, pendants, pins and various kinds of jewelry originally designed to bring good luck and to act as a talisman to chase evil.
14.Egyptian ankh (cross with a loop at the top which was an ancient fertility symbol); ancient witchcraft sign of the broken cross (called peace symbol); chais (consists of Hebrew characters spelling life); polynesian tikkis carved to represent various gods; African jujus shaped like snakes, hands, figures and other things; wiggley tail which is called Italian horn; protectors from evil eye; hand with the index and little fingers pointing up (satanic witchcraft sign); rock and roll records and tapes; and a great variety of crosses, clovers, stars, wishbones, lucky coins, mystic medals, horseshoes and other items.
15.Religious fetishes and statues may have dangerous resident demon power.
16.Mexican sun gods, idols, incense, Buddhas, and hand carved objects from Africa and the Orient.
17. Astrological symbols, horoscopes and fortune telling.
18. Products with cryptic, hidden, secret, occult curses.
19. Puppets, cult objects and representations. Dolls used for witchcraft and magic.
20. There is no way to list every demonic object. The list seems to go on and on.

Gene Moody, Demonbuster 13 Comments [7/20/2017 4:55:28 AM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 129534

I love all my vegan brothers and sisters, but we need to break through this complacency. Being vegan is not enough. Boycotting is not enough. Not taking part in the mass-murder of innocent beings is incredibly important, of course, but it is merely the moral minimum.
Far too much time and effort is dedicated to not rocking the boat with meat-eaters.

Trying to avoid upsetting someone who quite frankly, is ritualistically murdering and consuming innocent beings three times a day. It doesn't matter if they're your best friend, or your parent, or your sibling. They are still responsible for exploitation, enslavement, rape, torture, commodification, and murder. We need to do away with our overflowing sympathy for the perpetrators, and redirect it to the ACTUAL VICTIMS.

I understand it's a complex undertaking, and that we need to also create a welcoming world for vegans, as to incentivize others to become vegan. But too often it seems that we're losing sight of what's actually important, and we've made it about making OUR lives easier in a carnist world.
TRILLIONS OF INNOCENT LIVES ARE AWAITING SLAUGHTER AS YOU READ THESE WORDS..... we all have a moral obligation to set our social comfort aside, and go out of our way to spread the truth of what meat-eaters are actually doing. If that means an uncomfortable exchange with friends or family, then so be it. Compare that temporary discomfort with the life of torture and suffering the animals will endure if we don't say anything.

I fully believe that 99.9% of people are decent at heart, and only take part in this evil because the life-long conditioning is very strong, and they are just ignorant. We need to have more confidence in our stance. We need to speak up at EVERY opportunity, we need to break through this normalization of murder. And where we are vastly outnumbered, we need to speak LOUDLY.

Because it's not about OUR social comfort, it's about the TRILLIONS of innocent lives that will be lost if we don't speak up.
It's quite literally life or death, and time is a factor.. we need to fight for those who can't fight for themselves... we need to be their voice, and we need to speak loudly. We need to speak now..... It's not about US.... It's about the animals.

tommy1010, r/vegan 18 Comments [7/20/2017 4:55:23 AM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 129531

(Description)
A popular question/discussion popping up lately is the nature of DNA Activation. How do you activate your DNA, and what does it mean to have Activated DNA at all?

DNA Activation is a reconnection of your original blueprints for life to a higher degree, and as you continue on your path of life you will connect yourself back to yourself deeper and deeper. The Answer of course lies in the connections made within the sacred space of the heart, which can be accessed by breathing, focusing on your heart (Organ & Chakra), and practicing unconditional love of ALL.

Love is not just an affection of another or a feeling you get, but a pure vibration that which everything resonates to at its core, and if one can feel from the space of the heart, one can truly know themselves. It is a choice, and if you choose to follow a path that is destructive, then you will continue to create exactly that.

Namaste! See in-video credits for credits, and please check out the video links at the end!

http://wakeup-world.com/2011/07/12/scientist-prove-dna-can-be-reprogrammed-by-words-frequencies/

http://wakeup-world.com/category/esoteric-knowledge/dna/

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/06/science/far-from-junk-dna-dark-matter-proves-crucial-to-health.html?hp&_r=1&

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/aug/16/book-written-dna-code?fb=optOut]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zaiHJ7TVVA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkoAGlr3KUg

Jordan Duchnycz/The Spirit Science, YouTube 17 Comments [7/20/2017 2:49:20 AM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 129529


(A screenshot from a Spirit Science video. Jordan thinks that problems should be "solved" by repressing the worries through meditation. Examples of such problems include "medical problems" and "children".)

Jordan Duchnycz/The Spirit Science, Youtube 15 Comments [7/20/2017 1:36:45 AM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 129525

(The individual's whole site is crazy. Here're some gems:)


“For those of you reading, My website – My Testimony, this is your ‘Great Warning’.
But it is also My Mercy, upon your souls – so that you can experience the consequences, of your sinful ‘lifestyles’ – while you are ‘still breathing’.
For the Door to Heaven is not shut to you completely. But the ‘only way’ for you to desire ‘repentance’, is through Fire.”

(-Jesus, Monday, November 26, 2012)



How did we know that the Friday the 13th events in Paris France were simply False Flag Staged Events? It really wasn’t that complicated. First of all, Friday the 13th is an occult feast day - and the luciferian illuminati CULT members, always make sure they participate in that celebration, by making some very special plans ahead of time. Secondly, the illuminati like their pre-planned events, to coincide with signs in the skies, because that’s when their demons give them feelings of importance. The illuminati are simply lifeless human shells, ruled and animated by demons. But their demons insisted that they make that particular day a historic one, because of all the planetary alignments that were coinciding with that occult feast day. Now for some proof of the MAJOR planetary alignments on that day.
Of course, the multiple planetary alignments that were happening in the skies, at the same time as the False Flag staged, scripted and acted events in Paris France, weren’t the ONLY obvious proof of the FALSE FLAG event. To mock the global audience, the One World Government, then illuminated, or illuminati-ed “the FALSE FLAG colors”, of ANOTHER country – France – on major foreign landmarks around the Globe. How were they “the FALSE FLAG colors”? Because the colors of the French flag, are NOT the colors of the flags, of the countries, in which those landmarks are located.


Clockwise from top left: The Shanghai Tower (China flag colors red and yellow); Jerusalem’s Old City Ottoman Walls (Israel flag colors blue and white); The CN Tower in Toronto (Canada Flag colors, red and white); The statue of Christ the Redeemer in Rio de Janeiro (Brazil flag colors green, yellow and blue). Notice the TRUE FLAG color, of the CANADIAN flag, contrasting the FALSE FLAG colors of FRANCE, on the CN Tower. This is simply the Global Governments mocking the people, through their illuminati-controlled media propaganda machine - that is now set up in every country on the Planet.

And so today, we casually asked Jesus, “What was the point of the false flag attack in Paris on Friday the 13th”.

Jesus said: At THIS point in HISTORY, My CHILDREN, it would ONLY be a distraction, from the PURIFICATION, of the SOULS, of My FAITHFUL Remnant Church. The GOVERNMENTS, are ALL working together – BEHIND the SCENES – WITH, “the LAWLESS one” – IN, the political arena; to CONTINUE, to SUBVERT, the CONSTITUTIONAL rights, of the U.S. citizens, AND, ‘the rights’, of the CITIZENS, of France. The FALSE FLAG attacks, have ‘NO boundaries’, anymore; EVERY, country, IS involved – in their OWN ‘political agenda’. The UNITED NATIONS, SIMPLY desire, to control the PEOPLE – THROUGH, CREATING: chaos, confusion, STAGED events. They WANT to control the people – THROUGH fear. And so EXPECT MORE ‘false flag attacks’ happening in OTHER, countries, throughout the WORLD – as the ONE world GOVERNMENT, CONTINUES, to crush the PEOPLE, with ‘an iron FIST’; as the one world GOVERNMENT CONTINUES, to ‘REEL THEM in’ – through MEDIA propaganda; AND through the use of ‘STAGED scripts’ – as they CONTINUE, to fabricate NEWS stories, in order to ‘CULTIVATE an ATMOSPHERE’, of FEAR. When the PEOPLE, are ‘ALREADY dead’ – and they have ‘the MARK of the BEAST’ on their FOREHEADS – it DOESN’T MATTER, WHAT the ONE world GOVERNMENT, DOES, to them PHYSICALLY; all the PEOPLE, with the MARK, are ‘WITHOUT My Protection’. And AS you saw YESTERDAY, My children – THEY are ‘MORE than WILLING’ to PRAISE the illuminati, and prefer THEM, to ‘TAKING CARE of HUMANITY’ – rather than ME, helping them with ‘the SALVATION of their SOULS’. MANKIND chose, ‘the PATH, they WANTED to take’; and there is ‘NO false compassion’ – from ANY of us, HERE, in Heaven.

Person claiming to be Jesus?,  The Testimony of the Two Witnesses 8 Comments [7/19/2017 11:40:16 PM]
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Submitted By: DiarrheaMan
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