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Right for the Wrong Reason Award

The number of 'successful' left-wing and right-wing dictatorships is exactly equal: Zero!

Quote# 132111

Ends don’t justify means.

So you’re opposed to killing someone in self defense? Or is it just when it’s a left wing government that you believe this?
There is some lesson to be learned in the fact that there has been no successful left-wing dictatorship to date.

That’s just false. There’s been as many successful left wing dictatorships as right wing. Americans just mythologize the right wing dictatorships as being “efficient” and “making the trains run on time.” But the USSR was a successful left wing dictatorship.
Really? Now it’s somehow “self defense” for a government to kill its own citizens (so long as the government is “left wing”)?

The point is that the ends do sometimes justify the means, and unless you oppose violence as self defense then you agree with that.
And it starved to death millions of Ukrainians on purpose because they wouldn’t get along with the Party line. Not to mention the other millions murdered in Stalin’s later purges.

Indeed, just like the US genocided Native Americans. In fact, the US is responsible for more death than the USSR. Since we’re talking about ends and means and all. Because right now it sure seems like that’s just a talking point that liberals push to pretend like communism is the greatest evil ever while ignoring everything that capitalism has done and is doing.

AoT, Daily Kos 0 Comments [9/25/2017 3:15:01 PM]
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Quote# 132110

The Germans are well and truly fucked, and by themselves! They had a chance to redeem themselves, correct their past blunders and begin the slow course of reversal, but they elected instead for more of the same!

They also had a lesson from France, where the fucks elected that Macaroni dude over Le Penn, and the continuation of Islamic invasion, but the Germans decided that Maimuna Merkel is their gal for one more term! How can an intelligent, hard working, grounded people also be so mindlessly stupid!

Conrad Calvano, Bare Naked Islam 1 Comments [9/25/2017 3:13:28 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132109

I’d like to know more about this. Muslums are pathetic losers. The fact they follow Mohammed, Pedophile in Chief, makes them all pedophiles.

Az gal, Bare Naked Islam 0 Comments [9/25/2017 3:12:17 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132108

London Mayor Khan is the son of Pakistani Muslim immigrants.

Muslim immigrants and the children and grandchildren of Muslim immigrants are given welfare benefits — free homes and free money and easily attain positions of great power and influence in Britain.

British Vets who become jobless, end up living on the streets along with several thousand homeless vets and other desperate homeless native Brits, DENIED HELP by UK authorities because they’re NON-Muslim WHITES.

Mayor Khan is a rabid Jew-hater, Israel-hater, Christian-hater and virulently anti-white.

Khan demonizes so-called ‘moderate’ Muslims and condemns them for being Uncle Toms. Our danger grows by the day.

Linda Rivera, Bare Naked Islam 0 Comments [9/25/2017 3:12:08 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132107

I feel that both Jesus and the anti Christ are coming very soon. Which also means it’s likely that there will be another 911.

This 911 will be used to unite all nations through fear under the protection of the anti Christ and so it will be like a New World Order or one world government.

The terror that would unite all nations would be the fear of being attacked by an advanced civilization from outer space.

The Devil’s disciples have the technology to create a false attack by aliens. The anti Christ will claim he can be a mediator and communicator.

Talk about a rainbow coalition. All will equally bow to the anti Christ for protection except for Russia and China. They are not fooled.

When Jesus and his angels return the Devil will claim that they are an alien armada arriving and all U.S. and Israeli weapons will be aimed at them. Hence, the Biblical prophecy of the “great and dreadful day of the Lord” so great is the Devil’s deception.

Seek The Truth, Real Jew News 1 Comments [9/25/2017 3:12:01 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132106

[From "Here Come Dat Website"]

Welcome friends, new and old, to that website that they don’t want you to see.

The Daily Stormer: the most banned website ever. In fact, the only banned website ever that is political or legal. You can find pornography of the sickest sort you can imagine, all through these tubes. You can find ISIS recruitment sites – sites that literally give instructions on how to go to Syria and join ISIS. You can find how to make all sorts of explosives and chemical gasses.

But most of the time, you can’t find the Daily Stormer.

And why is that?

Well, according to the media, it was because I made an inappropriate fat joke about a fat woman who died of a heart attack.

Right here you can find the article allegedly responsible for the banning.

Ask yourself: does that make sense to you? Does it make sense that you are allowed to do anything you want on the internet, but the one thing that goes too far is making fun of a fat woman?

Of course that does not make sense.

In actual fact, the reason that this site is banned from the internet is not because of our fat jokes, it’s not even because of our nigger jokes – it is because the Daily Stormer is the number one site in the world which talks about a specific problem population: the Jews.

These are the people you are banned from talking about.

Because these are the people that are in charge. In charge of the entire Western world.

[...]

Everywhere in the world you look, you are going to see Jews controlling things.

Even now, Donald Trump’s administration is being destroyed by his Jewish son-in-law.

And yet, they simply pretend this isn’t true. And if you say it is true, they mock you as insane. But now, there is too much information available. It is too easy to point out the truth of the statement “the Jews control the world” – so when you do point it out, they shut you down.

I had been kicked off of PayPal, Patreon, Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, every credit card processor, etc. etc. etc.

I had been repeatedly DDoSed by criminals trying to shut the site down.

I had been sued. I had been harassed by the FBI. I had had my family targeted by cops, journalists and private investigators.

But I just kept talking about the Jews.

The site kept getting more and more popular because we were the only ones talking about the Jews so directly, and in a fun and entertaining way that had mass appeal to young people.

So there was nothing to do other than invent new ways to censor us.

You can read my blog outlining that here.

Right now, we have been on 9 different domains, all of which we have been banned from. Google is still holding dailystormer.com in internet prison. I have been locked out of the account, and they have not communicated with me as to what their plan is.

I put out a call to governments that they could show the hypocrisy of the US government – which claims to stand for freedom, claims to have the moral authority to “spread freedom” to the world using manipulation and war, yet bans freedom of speech at home – by giving me a domain, and yet no government on earth came forward with an offer to do this.

But we carry on.

[...]

I fully expect this domain to be banned, though in Iceland, they do have very strict free speech policies. In fact, they have only ever banned one website, which was an internationally illegal ISIS recruitment site, and they did so only with a parliamentary decree. And freedom of speech activists in Iceland fought to keep it up.

And yet, I have zero doubt that this site will eventually be taken down by the Icelandic government.

But we shall remain on the darknet. Never will they take that from us.

[...]

If it becomes more clear that the agenda for censorship is an entirely Jewish agenda, which is opposed by both the left and the right, then the Jews will feel like they have to back off. The one thing that Jews fear most is being singled out and targeted as a group engaged in a socially deleterious behavior. Right now, Jews are using sockpuppets to try and play it off like there is some support beyond themselves for the censorship agenda.

Andrew Anglin, Daily Stormer 0 Comments [9/25/2017 3:10:16 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 132104

Clumsy offensive wording. Move back? To what? Many blacks in the U.S. descend from slaves who were treated poorly in Africa and the U.S. The descendants of those slaves should be grateful for their ancestors’ sacrifices. After all the descendants of those slaves ended up in the greatest country in the world. A statement like this is factual, respectful and should not be offensive to anyone.

plain talk, Free Republic 0 Comments [9/25/2017 3:09:36 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132100

My eternal instinct to empathize and attempt to be an altruist has pulled me over the years to try to find some way to excuse the homosexual nationalist. I ask myself, "What if I were a sexual queer? Would I not still be a sincere nationalist despite that?"

I've tried to construct this artifice of there being the "good ones" and the "bad ones."

Every time, I've been made an ass of as they repeatedly prove to be more of a self-amused and ambitious tightly wound clique of men who vehemently pursue a fixed anti-Christian, anti-family agenda than what I would like to imagine; decent men struggling with a specific incurable psychopathology. Part of it is perhaps on account of what draws homosexuals into nationalism and what that entails for their priorities.

For them, it's an attractive opportunity to gentrify their social and sexual circles, to revive implicitly white and rigorously elitist nineties buggery against a push for diversity, feminism, and social egalitarianism leveling gay subcultures.

I suppose that theoretically there could be some who genuinely belong in our movement. But most of them still belong in a bog.

Matt Parrott, AltRight 0 Comments [9/25/2017 3:08:51 PM]
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Quote# 132095


The following are held by the Board of Directors and Professional Staff of The International Association For Creation to be either consistent with Scripture or implied by Scripture:

Scripture teaches a recent origin for man and the whole creation, spanning approximately 4,000 years from creation to Christ. The days in Genesis do not correspond to geologic ages, but are six [6] consecutive twenty-four [24] hour days of creation. The Noachian Flood was a significant geological event and much (but not all) fossiliferous sediment originated at that time. The gap theory has no basis in Scripture.

The view, commonly used to evade the implications or the authority of biblical teaching, that knowledge and/or truth may be divided into secular and religious, is rejected. By definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the scriptural record. Of primary importance is the fact that evidence is always subject to interpretation by fallible people who do not possess all information.

The International Association For Creation, International Association For Creation 1 Comments [9/25/2017 1:46:57 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132094

I think it's going to have a positive future, oddly, because creationism is only going to get more and more intellectually plausible. A lot like Intelligent Design. What's going to do it won't be 'evidence against evolution!' per se, but continued technological accomplishments by mankind. People already are getting into the idea of simulation theory (and that's on a secular level!) Most likely that idea is not going to go away, and the plausibility of a simulated universe goes hand in hand with the plausibility of that universe being a lot younger than we'd think.

Yesofcoursenaturally, r/creation 1 Comments [9/25/2017 1:46:47 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132093

The scientific method. The necessity that a hypothesis needs to be proven through testing and observation before it can be accepted as knowledge; something that is known.

And, hypothesis, that haven't been tested, can't be trusted as knowledge, but are just assumptions, even though they may be good assumptions. Evolution is a falsified theory. "Descent with modification from a common ancestor" requires that the common ancestor be able to be confirmed through testing and observation before the theory can be accepted as knowledgeable.

Otherwise, the rules of science label it an unconfirmed assumption. Evolution is falsified by observation. The theory requires a common ancestor for all the millions of species on Earth, but not a single common ancestor has been found. There are fossils that are assumed to be descendants of a common ancestor, but you can't validate a theory with an assumption. The Big Bang is a model and not a theory. A model is part of the process of constructing a theory. The theory then must be tested and validated before it can be accepted as knowledge.

It is ignorance of the rules of science to present Evolution, or the big bang, as science. ignorance: 'a lack of knowledge, understanding, or education : the state of being ignorant' assume: 'to think that something is true or probably true without knowing that it is true' If one accepts an assumption as true, without requiring validation, then they are still in a state of ignorance.

ThisBWhoIsMe, r/creation 1 Comments [9/25/2017 1:46:44 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132091

Recently I tried to convince an atheist of intelligent design. I explained to him how unlikely the probability of life simply developing and evolving in human beings was, and how it is much more rational to assume that an intelligent agent was at work. I explained to him how when we come upon an ancient ruin, our first thought is not "oh this must have resulted from natural causes," but rather "these ruins must have been built!"

I then explained how astronomically more complex life is. At the end of the debate he simply shrugged his shoulders and said, "Well maybe God created the universe, or maybe there's an infinite number of universes and the universe we live in is the only one we could live in, and it's the way it is because out of the infinite number of universes it was bound to happen. I guess we'll never know."

I think this was a very powerful lesson. The truth is that people will believe whatever they want to believe. As Socrates once famously said, "The only thing I know is that I don't know anything." If someone wants to believe something, then they'll find a way to justify their belief. If we could rationally convince people of the existence of God, then He wouldn't be God but rather a man-made idea. God is beyond our mere rationality.

If we could deduce God logically, then there would be no need for faith. People believe what they believe not because it is rationally and logically true beyond a doubt, but because it is useful and convenient. Instead of trying to convince people that we're right, we should just develop our own young earth Biology and Physics that is just as useful as the current old earth Biology and Physics. We can teach both models, since both models are equally effective at making accurate predictions, and let people decide what they want to believe. I think this would be the best approach we can take.

{deleted account}, r/creation 1 Comments [9/25/2017 1:44:40 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132090

Yay yay yay! Thousand thumbs up for mentioning the scientific method, testability and observation! Industrial and medical science runs on the scientific method and has produced fantastic results.

When it comes to evolution, were supposed to ignore the scientific method and just pretend it is science because that's what we're told. The examples you mention, and other fossils, are not propose to be actual common ancestors, but are presented as derivatives of an unknown shared common ancestor.

This is all based on assumptions. However, you have what is called the "species problem," nobody is in agreement on what to assume. What defines speciation is currently hotly debated amongst evolutionary scientists with no agreement. One can Google "species problem" for further information. Quite simply, no missing links, the theory is falsified, end of story. Believers can go on believing, but it ain't science.

ThisBWhoIsMe, r/creation 0 Comments [9/25/2017 1:42:59 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132089

A Revolutionary loyalty crib sheet:
Do Not Trust:
semites
women
homos
recent converts
low T uptalking vegetable lasagnas
Do Trust:
White Men
Family
A man who can bench his weight

Hope this helps.

Heartiste, Gab 2 Comments [9/25/2017 1:42:56 PM]
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Quote# 132081

(This fundie is talking about the Kaytn massacre)

Wrong. What has happened is that in 1943, when Third Reich was reeling from the defeats in the East, an attempt to split Allies and USSR was made. Germans claimed that they discovered a grave crime of Soviets - mass-murder of Poles. Nobody heard about Katyn before that.

Several independent experts were called in by the Nazis to make a statement, except every single one later admitted that Nazis promised to kill them, if they will not sign the paper that testified their confirmation that it was Soviet crime.

In 1945 a new investigation was carried (joint), that concluded that Soviets were innocent and it was just one of many similar mass-murders committed by the Nazis. However, it was proven too hard to locate enough evidence in time for the Nuremberg Trials to convict the specific culprits of the crime. Consequently, result was inconclusive and nobody got convicted.

S_T_P, r/communism101 1 Comments [9/25/2017 10:11:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132080

Holodomor is probably the most made up of the Soviet problems besides Katyn.

It was literally invented by Nazis and is now promoted by Nazis.

It specifically has the name Holodomor to compare and detract from the Holocaust.

It's first appearance was with those Ukrainians who joined Hitler as he marched into the Soviet Union.

wolacouska, r/communism101 0 Comments [9/25/2017 10:10:50 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132079

I've noticed that the top meat dairy and egg corporations use the same tactics the countries like North Korea, and Nazi Germany used. To sell their evil product to the rest of the world.Think about it this way, the Nazis used tactics like controlling media to sway the people's opinions to view the regime as good, superior, and even convincing the people that the regime has the peoples best interests in mind.

Now fast forward to present day, the meat industry always uses cartoon characters, mascots (for example chicken restaurants using chicken's as their mascot) to convince not only the adults but the children as well that eating animals is normal and natural, effectively indoctrinating the children just to make more money . But most disgustingly, the meat industry politicians love to talk about how we (humans) are superior and better than animals, which is the entire basis of the meat industry,now let's change two words and see what we're reminded of., change "humans" with Aryans and "animals" with Jews.

Sound familiar? Also the animal agriculture industry likes to lobby for anti-whistleblower legislation, such as the ag-gag bill which would make it legal to classify vegan whistleblowers as TERRORISTS, yet another example of the use of threats of imprisonent to further their own agenda. But last but not least, the meat and dairy industry loves using deceptive marketing slogans like "cage free" "free range" etc. even though these labels are so verifiably false, but yet the meat industry is able to keep us complacent using all of these tactics, and it's evil.

AManNamedTy, r/vegan 5 Comments [9/25/2017 10:10:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132077

Yes, one newly vegan. I can't vouch for the long term but have connected with a ton of other people who can. My vet is on board too.

All the arguments of "if you're vegan and care about animals don't get a cat" don't really work for me. I was in a state park and found a cat that was missing hair and had no fat on her body. She was in organ failure because it had been so long since she had eaten. She has lost sight in one of her eyes because of the malnutrition as well. Clearly she was not a good hunter.

I took her home and to many vet visits to get her healthy (feeding high quality meat based food), all the while doing research into if cats could be safe, healthy, thriving vegans. My dog is vegan so it seemed natural to at least look into it. I was sceptical at first but the more research I did into what exact nutrients cats needed the more sure I was that it could be done if properly monitored. Male cats need more initial monitoring than females mostly regarding urine pH. There are food supplements you can add if this issue comes up.

Only thing I would note is that it's a lot easier to prepare vegan meals for a dog. After my research I would only feed a cat commercial vegan food that has everything they need. They can have much worse side effects than dogs if they are lacking in certain nutrients. Don't try to make homemade food for your cat.

moistestsandwich, r/vegan 4 Comments [9/25/2017 10:10:25 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132076

Suppose you were stuck in a difficult situation with only the choices of killing one cat or killing five cats. You would obviously choose to kill only the one. Making such a choice does not mean that you are okay with killing cats.

In choosing a cat's diet, feeding the cat non-vegan food is killing multiple animals, while the worst case scenario for feeding your cat vegan food is killing only the one.

lnfinity, r/vegan 5 Comments [9/25/2017 10:09:22 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132075

I find this post to be quite naive and a little ignorant, to be honest. Animal agriculture is the world's biggest contributor to global destruction so how someone lives directly affects the land I'm living on.

What someone eats is also COMPLETELY the animal's business too and I'm standing up for those animals who can't voice their concerns about being eaten.

Vegans convince people to change their beliefs because we are destroying the planet - not to mention the number of humans and animals that are tortured and abused in the process of animal agriculture.

'Preaching' veganism is like defending domestic abuse and rape victims - are you telling me it's none of my business who someone wants to abuse and rape? Because that's what we're doing to the animals. Don't dare say it's none of my business what humans do with their lives.

Go watch a little child being beaten to death and let me tell you it's none of your business, let her die. We have a natural instinct to protect and intervene for the good of the people, don't turn that into a negative thing. Sorry. You hit a raw nerve there

{deleted account}, r/vegan 0 Comments [9/25/2017 10:06:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132074

Never ride in a cab driven by a mus slum and if you are not sure then take a pass. Boycott any and all mus slum controlled or owned businesses.

Boycott any cashiers who are mus slum and so on.

We will soon be gagged by the changes in our freedom of speech riights, but we can still speak and vote with our wallets and vote no.

cat, Bare Naked Islam 4 Comments [9/25/2017 10:06:50 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132073

No sympathy for the german people who voted for traitor merkel.

You will now get more murder, rapes, chaos, mayhem, suicide bombings, broken welfare, higher taxes and so on from your mus slum terrorists brought into your country by merkel.

Good luck with that. One good thing, we can learn from your mistakes and hopefully not repeat your stupiditiy by not bringing in your downfall.

cat, Bare Naked Islam 4 Comments [9/25/2017 10:06:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132072

Well we all know (socialist) Hitler and the Muslims co-operated for mutual benefit. So it should be no surprise that socialist Merkel now co-operates with the Muslims. And with Hitler we all know what happened next ! Merkel may not have the same conquering ambitions of Hitler … but her Muslim associates certainly do.

TrueBlueInfidel, Bare Naked Islam 1 Comments [9/25/2017 10:05:18 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132071

Islamic Vermin have only ONE allegiance and that is to their Violent Perverted Moongod Allah and the Genocidal Child Molesting Pervert Mohameed everthing else they say and do is just Taquia (Islamic lies and deceit).

And I just heard President Trump speaking about these highly paid American Footballers and Baseballers bending their knees when the US National Anthenm is played..What disrespect from these mostly Black Men..maybe these fellows should stop and think about their Black and White friends who are dying fighting the Islamic Vermin under that Flag…Overpaid Show Ponies for mine.

Ozgaza, Bare Naked Islam 3 Comments [9/25/2017 10:05:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132070

I shall never believe that the hundreds of Muslims praying in the streets are interested in leading a spiritual life. It is not possible; they are there to show how their numbers are growing.

Etti, Bare Naked Islam 0 Comments [9/25/2017 10:04:55 AM]
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