Quote# 131972

[Mrs. Clinton should see a professional mental health expert]

A mental health professional can't cure demonic possession ------- I wish I was at liberty to divulge what she and slick Willy did to Jennifer Flowers in Little Rock decades ago. A gal who played the piano for our church, also played for Flowers for 4 years, during the time of all that uproar. And she was a native of Little a rock, so knew the dirty details of the Clinton's.
Suffice to say, the persecution of Flowers and the other "affairs du jour" of Willy, were nothing short of demonic. Death threats and all. And Hillary was the main persecutor - Slick Willy just sat back and let her do the dirty work.

madcat, Rapture Ready 5 Comments [9/23/2017 10:48:12 AM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Crank Magnetism Award

It would have been shorter to list the insanities he does NOT subscribe to.

Quote# 131959

(A talk radio host's self-description)

Southern Israelite Messianic Protestant in the Louisville, Ky Area Revelationist Strict Monotheist: Semi-Arian Unitarian Coherency Theorist Flat-Earth Geocentrist Patriarchalist 5-Pointer (The Doctrines of Grace) Judaizer-Nazarene Ethics Pro-Semitic but anti-Zionist Southern National Socialist Instrumentalist (Philosophy of Science) Anti-Enlightenment Protestant Historicist Postmillennialist

The Southern Israelite, Blog Talk Radio 22 Comments [9/22/2017 12:51:10 PM]
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Quote# 131958

Shari Webber-Dunn is an inmate at the Topeka Correctional Facility in Kansas, where she’s been serving a 40-year sentence for “helping her boyfriend murder her husband”. She’s also a practicing Thelemite, which makes her part of a century-old theistic religion that stresses individualism. Those details are irrelevant, however, for the problem she witnessed at the prison.

According to a lawsuit filed by the American Humanist Association’s (AHA) Appignani Legal Center, Webber-Dunn has been subject to all kinds of religious proselytizing at the women’s prison:

"… the lawsuit objects to displaying religious messages, images, and symbols on public bulletin boards and elsewhere on prison grounds; encouraging and facilitating prayer requests; displaying a large wooden cross in a multi-purpose room that is used for various purposes; and otherwise imposing strong Christian values on inmates."

Even the movies shown on weekends are Christian propaganda films.
Despite asking politely, and through the proper channels, for the religious items to be removed, she heard nothing from prison officials. That’s why she approached the AHA.

“Prisons are not exempt from the Constitution,” said AHA legal director David Niose,”and prisoners do not lose the shield from state-sponsored religion provided by the Establishment Clause.”

Why she’s in prison has nothing to do with the rights she’s guaranteed while she’s in there. And forcing Christianity upon prisoners is illegal. Prison officials should never have let this happen in the first place. They should’ve stopped it when she asked about it. And now, they’ll have to stop it while paying a hefty penalty for it. Too damn bad. They deserve it.

Topeka Correctional Facility, Friendly Atheist 3 Comments [9/22/2017 12:51:05 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 131957

(From a forum discussion on the Rohingya genocide)

lol, Muslims have been slowly stealing and terrorizing the lands for a long time. Its awesome to see these people and Buddhists have finally put their foot on the ground and kick out these scum bag Muslims out. Who gives a fuck about a few women and children, what about all those died at Muslim hands these past hundreds of years?

Anyone who supports Muslims should choke on a pigs dick

vansonbee, MyAnimeList 9 Comments [9/22/2017 12:51:02 PM]
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Submitted By: Into the Unknown

Quote# 131954

Lord, you see the growing anti-Christian rhetoric not just by extremist political activists, but by elected politicians and by agencies of state and local governments. You see the oppression against faithful believers. Intervene, Lord, to protect your people. Stir your people to stand up to their oppressors and proclaim the truth of our religious liberty, protected by the First Amendment! May your people wrestle principalities and powers, using the tools and gifts with which you have equipped them. May they never compromise their faith, whatever the cost. Correct Lord, those who have crossed the line, violated their Constitutional oaths, and persecuted your people. Raise up faithful men and women to run for and hold public office.

Watchmen on the Wall, Family Research Council 13 Comments [9/22/2017 10:57:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 131951

Dividing the nations to govern better is the backdoor action (no pun intended) of the EU with its separatist movements, but not without the risk of a dogwhistle (drama) that they are too dumb (cunty) to be able to plan this, except if they are both MACHIAVELLIAN and UNRESPONSIBLE.

In fact, by limiting myself to the borders of the hexagone in a doom scenario, I barely see how the autonomists from Britanny, Basque, Catalonia Savoie etc. would end up winning the game except by waiting, I don't tell you about the problems if such a resurgence were to happen...

Yes, we are doomed due to the teaching of regional languages by the National Education Board.
It's as if the specifics of each region couldn't get perrenial unless the EU takes over this institution (as a 5th colon).
In a future party programme it should get stated that we need to have the national language as our primary language.

A T, Nicholas Dupont-Aignan's blog 11 Comments [9/22/2017 10:56:38 AM]
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Quote# 131943

I was illiterate when I took up the practice of Falun Dafa. I couldn't read. Yet I still wanted to get a copy of the book Zhuan Falun, the main text of Falun Dafa. I figured that my children could read to me when they had time.

One night, while my children were asleep, unable to read, all I could do was embrace the book.

I complained out loud to Master Li, “My children are so slow! How long will it take me to finish the book? Wouldn’t it be much better if I could read whenever I wanted to?”

I fell asleep afterwards and had a dream, but it seemed so real!

In the dream, Master Li opened the book for me. I was terribly nervous and said that I couldn’t read. He put the book down and dug something out of my ears. He opened up the book again and asked me what I saw. I said that it looked like window paper-cuts, with a lattice network of squares. He put the book down, patted my head twice, and left.

I yelled, “Master! Master!” I wanted to get up, but I couldn't move.

My daughter read to me the next day as usual. When she read the first line, the second line of characters jumped out! And then the pages turned pink! I told her I could read the characters.

She was surprised and asked me if I had a fever. I said that I didn’t have a fever, but it was true, I could read. She didn't believe me, so I read the next few characters to her. She asked what had happened. Tears flowed down my cheeks, and I told her that Master had taught me to read.

She thought that this was truly miraculous, and I agreed. I couldn't believe that I had such a dream and could suddenly read!

I am now able to read all of Master's writings. I even wrote to government officials and urged them to stop the persecution of Falun Dafa. I have also written articles about the persecution.

I had nephritis, gastritis, an irregular heartbeat, and a serious gynecological disorder before I started practicing Falun Dafa in 1996. I sought all kinds of medical treatment, but I just got worse. I then developed kidney stones and wanted to die from the pain.

A friend visited me when I had given up all hope. She urged me to practice Falun Dafa. My body was purified, and my health restored a month after I began the practice. It was then, many years ago, that I had this dream and became able to read. I am very grateful to Falun Dafa and Master Li.

Xiuyuan, Minghui 6 Comments [9/22/2017 10:54:23 AM]
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Quote# 131942

I started to cultivate Falun Dafa in 1999. Following Master on this journey, I have witnessed many miracles. I would like to share two of them.

Another practitioner and I went out to distribute materials and put up posters. We saw a utility pole for an overhead electrical line at a busy spot and tried to put up a poster on it. My left hand accidentally touched a wire that had no insulation. Colorful sparks zapped my hand. I wasn’t afraid, but I had to pull my left hand from the wire with my right. Then I put the poster up on the pole.

I left. A few minutes later, my left hand hurt like there were needles poking it. But the pain disappeared a short time later, and I felt fine. I looked back and saw the wire was connected to a high-voltage transmission tower. I thanked Master for protecting me.

I visited a wonderful place in another dimension. It was a sacred place full of flowers. I heard music from far away and many small pink flower petals floated toward me. They were very fragrant. The petals lifted me up and took me to a beach, where divine beings were singing “Falun Dafa is good.” They all looked young. They welcomed me.

The ocean was boundless and very calm and smelled sweet. Far out in the sea, I saw several gold islands supported by giant gold lotus flowers. The islands radiated gold light. A gold pavilion on a giant flower floated to the beach. There were many different kinds of fruit on the table in the pavilion. A divine being invited me to enjoy them. I told him that I needed to go back to the human world, because I had to do the three things with Master, that many people are waiting for me to be saved, and I needed to fulfill my oath.

I told them to remember “Falun Dafa is good.” They nodded. They wished me tremendous success.

This is just part of what I saw. Many wonderful things cannot be described with words.

With Master's protection, I have walked on the path of cultivation till today. I will do the three things well and save more people, cultivating diligently.

Thank you, Master. Thank you, fellow practitioners. Thank you, Minghui editors. You have been working hard.

Unknown author, Minghui 5 Comments [9/22/2017 10:53:57 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 131940

The only Laws that should ever be used, if the US is really a Christ guided country, are either the Ten Commandments or the two Laws of Christ: seek the Power and Gnosis of the Infinite Creator at each and every moment of one’s existence (Zen); and treat others as you would treat your self (Karma).

From this perspective, one can investigate one of Scalia’s pet peeves, marriage of same sex couples.

The fourth Commandment states that one is to hold one’s parents in the highest regard. But how does one hold same sex degenerates in high regard, when they clearly cannot breed and only wish for financial benefits from the communist and thoroughly God-less US Government?

The Karma aspect is that gay sex is diseased from the get go, as they seem to require hundreds of sex partners, whether “married” or not, involve the anal cavity, rodents, and who knows what else, and the majority of pedophiles are faggots.

The bottom line is Christianity is against homosexuality period, and they used to rightfully murder folks for that sin. If you claim to be a Christian and a supporter of same sex marriage, then get the hell off of your prescription drugs, stop listening to NPR and CNN, and wake up to reality.

jim, Real Jew News 17 Comments [9/22/2017 10:52:40 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 131934

The deadening of the Spirit is the greatest holocaust, and never has US society been more atheist during the past fifty years than today.

The two greatest physical pleasures, food and sex, are necessary in their own way, but really meaningless when it comes down to it. Because of the obsession with these two aspects of Life, the Reaper has become right up ahead for US.

The Crowley-inspired brainwashing of the 1960s, “do what thou wilt is the whole of the Law,” did far worse damage than would the savage killing of a few million US citizens, as it ushered in the Spiritual death of nearly the entire country.

A true warrior seeks an honorable death, considering the death of the body as nothing compared to spiritual well being. Yet, worship of bodily pleasure, and the exultation of one’s self over all others, took over in the Devil-driven Hippie Era, and it never slowed down.

The citizens of the US are spiritually dead, or have you not noticed the extreme fascination with Zombie movies lately?

Does it really matter if Russian nukes take out the US population, because are they not already dead?

jim, Real Jew News 9 Comments [9/22/2017 10:48:59 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 131933

Putting it another way; if homosexual conduct wasn't encouraged and glorified by leftists like it currently is, and still vilified as a sure way of contracting HIV and AIDS, and ultimately a shorter lifespan, all involved would be better off.

PROCON, Free Republic 6 Comments [9/22/2017 10:48:50 AM]
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Quote# 131928

Over the last few weeks the USA and the adjacent Caribbean islands have experienced devastating hurricanes. Of course it is not unusual for that part of the world to experience such extreme weather at this time of the year but what does appear to be unusual is the intensity and frequency of these 'events'. In time past when man was more 'superstitious' or more in tune with other realms of being (depending upon your perspective) these storms would have been interpreted as the Gods' displeasure regarding the actions of man. Even in Christian times this thinking continued except that instead of the Gods being angry it was the Christian 'god'. Only modern man in his conceit dismisses any supernatural explanation.

As we rush headlong to the Ragnarok (Korangar) that was long ago predicted by the Norse sages (and experienced by my late mother in a strange dream) we can expect to see more of such intense climatic events. Likewise we can expect to see more developments in the political sphere. We are approaching now the end and this should be obvious for anyone who has eyes to see. This thoroughly rotten and oppressive New World Order is facing utter and total collapse and we must be prepared for the power vacuum which will ensue and take steps to prepare ourselves. Not only must we ensure our survival as individuals but as a folk and as a race. However we must not view this as a matter of just survival but one of OPPORTUNITIES for as I have said the power vacuum which will be present after the collapse of western states will allow us to finally break free and recreate our world and recreate our ancient Germanic and Aryan societies which will be built again with our Blut und Boden.

This will be a time of sacrifice-another meaning attached to Woden's Eye. It will be a time for the Einheriar to be released from their training grounds of Walhalla and fight the eternal foe. In my view there never has been a satisfactory interpretation of the term Einherjar. Usually this is understood to mean either 'lone' or 'once' warrior. Neither explanation make any sense, certainly not from a mythological perspective. I personally take the view that these warriors, these servants of Woden are ONE-EYED HARRIERS. In other words warriors who engage in persistent attacks, often in small bands against selected targets. They are 'one-eyed' in the sense that they serve the One-Eyed Woden. All Woden's servants seek to emulate Him in their actions and it is surprising how often they bear His marks upon their bodies. Blindness, particularly in one eye is a mark of His favour upon those who are chosen by Him. This is another interpretation of Walhalla-the halls of the CHOSEN.

As I view the satellite images of these recent hurricanes I see in their centre the Eye of Woden. He is the God of the storm and although this is not quite evident from the Old Norse writings that image of Woden has survived in continental Germanic and English folklore. The Germanic view of Woden is far more archaic than the Norse Odin as I have shown before in previous articles: Towards a More Archaic Understanding of Woden and Woden and Vata-Vayu-a Comparison

As Woden is beginning to awaken his people He will also do His work in the elements as we approach the time of Walhalla-Allahlaw.

Wotans Krieger, Aryan Myth and Metahistory 37 Comments [9/22/2017 10:47:18 AM]
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Quote# 131927

R&I ~ Løki
The idea that there are only two religions, comes from the story of Cain and Abel.

Both men were instructed by God to bring an animal sacrifice to atone for their sins.
(A precursor to what Jesus Christ would do on the cross thousands of years later.)

Thus making Biblical Christianity, not only the oldest religion in the world, but the only one that is acceptable by God.

Able believed God's instructions, and his sins were atoned for.
Cain on the other hand, did not believe God and proceeded to try to bring about his salvation by the works of his hands. i.e. Good Deeds outweigh Bad Deeds, “I’m a good person” "My Own God" etc…

Every religion, except biblical Christianity, has this false doctrine as their core belief.

They may look a little different,
some of their rituals not quite the same,
and sometimes, even call themselves “Christian”.

But they are nothing more than an amalgamation of the false religion began by Cain.
So ultimately, even though there seems to be many religions, there are only two.

And also, even if you claim to have NO religion, no matter how much you insist,
you still fall under Cain's religion.

Choose wisely.

So as the title suggests. Are there actually only Two Religions?

The Bible says yes. What say you?

Bible Answers, Religion 16 Comments [9/22/2017 10:47:02 AM]
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Quote# 131926

Our notions of dignity are ultimately based on God’s dignity and our being made in God’s image. Thus, we apply titles of dignity to people, but not to animals or other elements of creation. John Smith appears to sound more important when he is called “Dr. Smith,” “the honorable Congressman Smith,” or “President Smith.” But “Germ Smith” just doesn’t have the same ring. People do not build monuments to germs. Few people grieve when a fly dies.

This is not just a semantic or historical matter. The value difference between humanist and creation visions of human worth has profound significance. Martin Luther King Jr. did not give his life to advance the cause of equal civil rights for black germs. Many thousands now work tirelessly in the right to life movement, but not to save the lives of preborn viruses. Although at the gut level we automatically assume the dignity of human beings, it is pure nonsense apart from creation.

I know that secular humanism waxes eloquently about how important it is for us to be virtuous, and how important it is for us to work for human dignity and for freedom and industry and love. But intellectually, I’ve never seen anything more pitiful than the type of philosophical humanism that tells us on the one hand that our origin as human beings is a cosmic accident, that we are grownup germs who have emerged fortuitously from the slime, and that we are destined ultimately to annihilation to non-being, to the abyss of das Nichts, the nothingness, but that even so, we enjoy enormous significance in between our origin and our destiny. Talk about fantasy and wish projection. Talk about blind faith and leaping into absurdity. What could be more absurd than to celebrate the significance of grownup germs? I say candidly to the secular humanist: “Don’t come to me and tell me about human dignity, because I don’t care whether white germs or black germs sit in the back of the bus. And I don’t care about whose slime is blown away by a nuclear holocaust. If I’m going to care about human beings and about human dignity, I want a reason.”

If you call me to sacrificial, altruistic action in behalf of human beings, you better have a reason. And it should be greater than simply, we should be for people because we’re people. Because unless we can establish that it means something to be people, it’s pure emotion. And rights granted on the basis of pure emotion ultimately unravel. What emotion gives, it can also take away. But if our human dignity is given by God and that is recognized by our culture, then we have fundamental human rights that inform how we treat other people under the law and even one-on-one at the personal level.

7.genie, Calling all Christians 7 Comments [9/22/2017 10:46:51 AM]
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Quote# 131924

[regarding whether abortion for rape victims is wrong]

Nothing can happen to anyone unless they want it to . Jesus said in John 10:34 we are all Gods . We each subconsciously punish ourselves in order to motivate us to become perfect (Mat. 5:48) . But the one injurinig an other feels a tremendous amount of guilt .

Forrest Toney, Y! answers 11 Comments [9/22/2017 10:45:59 AM]
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Quote# 131923

All Christians Should Support Capital Punishment.

Shane Claiborne- a social justice activist, a progressive Christian who runs the Simple Way community in Philadelphia, and an author who published Executing Grace earlier this summer about the death penalty- was recently interviewed by Relevant Magazine about what he claims is the Christian obligation to reject capital punishment.

Claiborne seems sincere in his religious opposition to capital punishment but his reasoning (in this piece but also his book) to support abolition are in conflict with biblical justifications for the death penalty, and don’t make much sense.

For example, Claiborne says-
“The consistent life ethic is beautiful. It says, “We are uncompromisingly going to stand for life.” The early Christians did that; they unilaterally spoke against violence in all forms. But what’s happened… pro-life has come just to mean anti-abortion… But it’s not the only life issue.
…The death penalty raises one of the most fundamental questions of our faith which is: Is any person beyond redemption? At the end of the day I think there are a lot of reasons to be against the death penalty, but for a Christian who believes that Jesus died to spare us from death and this idea of grace or as Scripture says “mercy triumphs over judgement.”

This is a bit convoluted and attempts to hide moral relativism posing as, but distorting, Christianity.

“Violence in all forms?” So murder, rape, and punishment for both are all morally equal and can be comparably defined as violence? How? Based in what functioning moral universe? The Bible and Christian orthodoxy are clear that gradations of violence, sin, and punishment exist precisely because of the morality attached to them.

The idea that one has to reject capital punishment to maintain pro-life ethical consistency is a false dichotomy, completely ignoring biblical teaching on the matter.
In my opinion- and based on the Bible, to be pro-capital punishment is to be pro-life.

It’s why the divine injunction of capital punishment (specifically related to intentional murder) is the only command repeated in each of the first five books of the Bible, beginning in Genesis 9:6, a universal proscription and application which predates the judicial and ceremonial laws of theocracy of ancient Israel. As such, this divine directive can’t be rationalized away as an injunction that was both historically and geographically explicit to the ancient Hebraic religious cultic practice.

So, why is supporting capital punishment equal to being prolife? The answer is found in the above scriptural passage: “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man.” This divine imperative foreshadows the language found in the Sixth Commandment of the Decalogue- “You shall not murder.” It’s precisely because we’re created in the image of God, that (premeditated) murder must be punished with this kind of required severity. Murdering a fellow human is a moral offense to God and must be treated and responded to as such.

Capital justice rightly roots out the evil in our midst, preserving the lives of the majority. It’s a tool properly used by the government to protect and defend human life, not a course of cheap vengeance. As stated earlier, all ‘violence’ isn’t the same because of the morality attached and required response to it. Those who commit the most grievous of crimes and worthy of the death penalty are killed, preventing them from re-committing their reprehensible acts, which violate the safety and security of other people.

Sparing the life of one worthy of capital punishment, for example a murderer, increases the chances that he or she will murder again. Are Christian abolitionists of the death penalty willing to see another innocent person murdered by someone that should’ve been put to death? Shane Claiborne and other Christian abolitionists of the death penalty never confront the real statistical possibility that by ‘executing grace’ to a condemned murderer allows him or her the ability to commit more violent acts and committing murder again- of another inmate or a correctional officer while imprisoned, or another civilian if/when they’re released from the penitentiary due to shortened sentences. I’m not sure the consciences of these Christian abolitionists of capital justice confront the reality that their “compassion” facilitates more murders of innocent people, and they’re obligated to explain how this unsound position and gamble can be characterized as compassionate.

Furthermore, Claiborne’s petition that no one is “beyond redemption” doesn’t factor in the dispute against capital punishment. The argument is that no person- regardless of the moral depravity evidenced in the actions s/he’s committed- is beyond repentance, spiritual conversion and redemption. As such, a person shouldn’t be condemned to death via capital punishment, but should be spared and given opportunities to be spiritually rehabilitated and saved.

Unfortunately, there are some people who’re simply beyond spiritual repair. History is chockfull of examples of people who committed atrocities against others who never repented of their evil acts. History also testifies that many people sentenced to prison for a determined length of time- up to life in prison- didn’t express remorse or realize spiritual restoration.

The redemption of the felon on death row is between the felon and God. It’s up to God to have mercy on him/her; we on the other hand, have to do what’s right and necessary for the preservation of civil society by protecting the innocent and punishing the guilty. Sparing the condemned doesn’t do that. It sends exactly the wrong message about life’s sacrosanctity to other violent criminals that have yet to be brought to justice. Abolishing the death penalty shows preferential treatment for the murderer at the expense of the murdered. Again, how is this grace or compassion?

Even still, the “beyond redemption” appeal by Christians as a religious protest misses a couple key points.

God works on his time- not ours. The potential of the condemned being redeemed isn’t predicated on his exemption from capital punishment- as if God needs as much time as possible to transform and save the lost.

What if the guilty rejects redemption? Life imprisonment, rather than death for the possibility of redemption is a huge moral gamble that doesn’t make sense.
Since the time-sensitive potentiality of the condemned being redeemed is considered, why isn’t the alternative? Rather than giving both God and the condemned inmate ample time to get to know each other, why don’t Christian opponents of capital punishment contemplate the prospect that the spiritual conversion of death row inmates might increase if the death penalty was more efficient and accelerated? Increasing the urgency of death could prompt a change of heart that 30 years on death row won’t.
To the point, being spiritually redeemed doesn’t revoke earthly punishment.

Claiborne continues-
“Today, black people are about 13 percent of the overall population, but they’re 34 percent of executions and 43 percent of death row.
We like to say it’s about the most heinous crimes, but really the biggest determinants in capital punishment are the race of the victim and the resources of the defendant.”
This is dishonest and Claiborne either knows it, or at the very least, he’s exceedingly naïve.

Claiborne completely ignores the severity of the crime(s) committed- the reason(s) why a person is on death row- and implies that the disproportionate numbers of blacks on death row and their executions are primarily the result of racial and economic factors, not (im)moral ones. Christians who share this position of disparate impact completely ignore or excuse the violent acts committed by black felons deserving of the death penalty, which are readily available from the FBI or the Bureau of Justice Statistics/Department of Justice.

Intentionally excusing blacks from human moral obligation and agency isn’t benevolence; it’s condescending racial paternalism used to advance a superficial agenda masquerading as justice.

Absolving blacks from moral standards and expectations that everyone else is subjected to might qualify as “compassion” or “justice” in the morally ostensible world of social justice activists. In the real world of cause and consequence, the majority of people on death row are there as punishment deserving of the crimes they’ve committed. If Claiborne is concerned about the disparate impact of capital punishment on black lives, he should instead focus on highlighting and condemning the contributing factors that facilitate the disproportional participation of blacks in violent criminality- the causative factor(s), which qualifies black felons for the death penalty.
Extending leniency to villains as compensation for their evil guarantees the actions of evil- including murder- will increase.

Sparing the life of the murderer doesn’t demonstrate compassion; it devalues it.
Of course, Claiborne and other Christian abolitionists argue that the ministry of Jesus in the New Testament has vacated the Old Testament moral and legal prescriptions for capital punishment. But this is a form of theological and biblical service buffet- simply taking away what one likes and ignoring what one doesn’t so as to reinforce one’s ideological predeterminations.

Despite arguments to the contrary, Jesus didn’t annul capital punishment in his Sermon on the Mount. During his Sermon in Matthew 5, Jesus says,
“You have heard it said, ‘An eye for eye, and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.”

How exactly is this nullification against the divine command of killing a murderer? Clearly, Jesus is referring back to the Levitical law of proportionality (Ex. 21:24, Lev. 24:19-21a), meaning that punishments should fit the crimes committed rather than exceeding them. Jesus’ teaching in the Sermon isn’t rescinding the command to punish murderers by death. Rather, he’s teaching his listeners- first century commoners and other marginalized groups- how to respond to insults and offenses in interpersonal relationships. This subversive teaching regarding self-control instead of retaliation in the face of public humiliation had nothing to do with government, governmental authority or how government was to administer punishment.

Aside from misinterpreting and misapplying Jesus’ teaching from the Sermon on the Mount as an argument in favor of abolishing the death penalty, Christian opponents of the death penalty ignore or misinterpret Romans 13:1-5. Here Paul says that the government, being a servant of God, doesn’t bear the sword in vain. Rather, it rightly punishes criminals for committing evil. The Greek word for sword combined with the implication of the passage makes clear that Paul was indeed saying that civil government has a responsibility to protect its constituents, which included punishing by death those who commit evil, violence and threaten public safety.

A moral society that values life is duty bound to protect its citizens. It also has a moral obligation to prove the high value of life by punishing those who intentionally and without reservation, devalue it. In my opinion, contemporary Christian abolitionists of capital punishment undermine the sacredness of life by “compassionately” regarding murderers at the expense of the murdered, and future murderers at the expense of the future victims of murder. By seeking to end of the death penalty, they’re surrendering their responsibility to defend and maintain the inimitable value of human life using the pro-life teachings of Christianity to defend a pro-death position.

Capital punishment is a touchy subject and good arguments can be made to support both sides of the debate. But many of the arguments advanced by Claiborne- in addition to Pope Francis (here and here) and other Christian opponents of the death penalty, thus far, aren’t good arguments and they contradict and undermine the Bible in the process.

Derryck Green, Derryck Green.com 17 Comments [9/22/2017 10:45:44 AM]
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Quote# 131921

Reminder that everything that's good in the world originated from Western Europe and you shouldn't feel bad about it

nontolerantman, Twitter 20 Comments [9/22/2017 10:45:07 AM]
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Quote# 131919

The Chinese Revolution, with Mao Tse-tung at the head of the CPC, developed the revolutionary process, through a prolonged popular war, from the countryside to the city, which liberated red areas in which the democratic-popular state of New Democracy, and that on October 1, 1949, with the seizure of power throughout the country begins the socialist stage.
As in Russia the proletariat was the class of vanguard of the revolution, but in China the peasantry was the main driving force.

Mao resolves, on the theoretical basis of Marxism-Leninism, new and fundamental problems of the proletarian revolution, in theory and in practice, which have to do with the characteristics of revolutions in countries oppressed by imperialism.
It faces the modern revisionism, headed by Khrushchev, triumphed at the 20th Congress of the CPSU in 1956, changing the class character of the CPSU and the State, opening the way to the restoration of capitalism in the USSR. It shows that the rise of revisionism to power is the rise of the bourgeoisie to power.

With this real tragedy for the international working class and the oppressed peoples of the world, socialism, as Marx and Lenin put it, implies a long historical period in which classes and class struggle continue to exist, the struggle between the path socialist and capitalist and the danger of capitalist restoration, in addition to imperialist aggression and intervention.

Modern revisionism extended to most of the Communist Parties of the world and had in Rodney Arismendi, its main exponent in Uruguay, that with its revisionist clique manages to cover the direction of the Communist Party from the 16th Congress, of 1955.
The liquidation process began there, with the abandonment of revolutionary positions, congress after congress, turning a revolutionary proletarian party into a reformist electoral party, subordinated entirely to the interests of the USSR, which had been converted into a social-imperialist power since 1957.
Mao and the PCCH fight in the International Communist Movement and carry on the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution, beginning in 1966, which resists revisionism and capitalist restoration in China for ten years.
Their contributions in the most diverse fields, meant the development of Marxism to a new stage, Marxism-Leninism-Maoism.
With the defeat of this revolution and the rise of Ten Siao-ping, after Mao's death (9/9/76), revisionism succeeds in the PCCH, and the process of capitalist restoration takes place also in China. This closes a cycle of progress and development of the Proletarian Revolution worldwide.

Ricardo Cohen, ICOR 2 Comments [9/22/2017 10:44:39 AM]
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Quote# 131906

America, you are staggering like a drunken whore,
Even to the point of entrance at Hell’s door!
Your foundational motto: IN GOD WE TRUST…
You have trampled underfoot! Can’t you see the dust
Of decaying morals? Of lust, pride and vanity?
You are on the verge of losing your very sanity!

America, home of Miss Liberty…land of the free (?)…
Your slip is showing…dragging in filth and debris!
Still, you plod along shunning all of God’s holy ways.
Even Nineveh applied for an extension of days!
But you say, “Attention I want. I’ll be a global shocker.”
Listen-up! Surely, Jesus will be your boat-rocker!

America, you are no longer little sweet sixteen…
Nor are you a dainty ballerina or a beauty queen.
Having joined in the stoning of His prophets and saints,
Your make-up’s make-up clearly resembles war-paint!
If you could see all things from beginning to end…
To which side, God’s or satan’s, would your knees bend?

America, open up the Book, the end is not hidden!
Are you not concerned that you are backslidden?
Redeem the time for good. Check out God’s Holy Writ!
See where in His blueprint you might exactly fit.
The sinfulness abounding throughout your storied land
Is hideous mocking of Heaven’s most righteous plans.

America, won’t you obey His ageless, instructive words?
You can’t run from them…even in your souped-up Birds!
The Day of the Lord, like a thief in the night, will come
For a people listening for His trump…not a bongo drum!
It’s up to you, America! Wha’d’ya say you get in His Mood?
He is coming…ready or not…and His name is not dude…
But, Jesus. Yes, Jesus!

America, He loves you so!

heraldingvictory, Real Jew News 22 Comments [9/21/2017 11:38:13 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 131905

You cannot preach peace if you teach hatred. ISlam being called a religion of peace, is the biggest lie and insult, that humans have ever made. It such as the ISlamophobia lie, is a grave error of judgement that will cost lives, much bloodshed on both sides.

While we can all agree to disagree on the rights and wrongs of other religions, ISlam as a belief, is pure evil. If we try to look at it how someone like Hitchens would. We can separate and see human beings, but the belief, the evil is the thing that overrides everything. We can lie to ourselves and pretend that some of these people are our friends and some as all people, will show good and bad qualities. But, the cause of all of the bloodshed stems back to the core teachings of ISlam.

Until Europe truly admits it has a serious problem with ISlam, we will never be free from all of this bloodshed. Deislamize to rehumanize.

Belphegor, Bare Naked Islam 18 Comments [9/21/2017 11:38:02 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 131904

Quran (3:56) – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”

The Pope LIES and DECEIVES for Islam.

The Liar Pope declares that the BLOOD SOAKED Quran Book of Hate, Savagery and Eternal WAR Against Infidels is a Book of Peace!!! And that terrorism is not Islam!!!

The Liar Pope HATES the Eternal Word of God, the Bible and HATES God’s Laws, the Ten Commandments as much as Muslims.

One of the Ten Commandments: YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS!

Linda Rivera, Bare Naked Islam 6 Comments [9/21/2017 11:37:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 131903

Have you checked the credentials of any advocates for workers, lgbt people and civil rights activists lately? They're leftist. They have always been leftist. Capitalism is totally incompatible with social progress and it always has been. I don't need to tell you that because you already know it... You just don't care because you like your nice comfortable neighbourhood built on the backs of the enslaved.

-mousey-, r/LateStageGenderBinary 8 Comments [9/21/2017 11:36:27 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 131900

If all you read is western propaganda this is exactly the view you'll end up with. Everything in your post is propaganda. Stalin was popular and elected many times. He managed with the help of his government to turn an agricultural backwater into a world power in a short time.

{deleted account}, r/Communism 18 Comments [9/21/2017 11:34:18 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 131897

Absolute crap. Levels of food and production spiked drastically under Stalins rule. Great, the west had some pretty diamond trinkets and gold studded bull whips... Good on the West for raping every lesser economically developed nation to get their shiny gold, TV dinners, and 'freedom™'. Meanwhile, in their own nation they were jailing, drugging, shooting anyone who wasn't white cis middle class. What a wonderful day in the neighbourhood right! Gee whiz did you check out that new Ford? It now runs on the blood of the impoverished!

This is utterly pointless. You're defending the fascist west in a leftist space and getting mad at me because I have the audacity to tentatively defend some actions of an actual communist leader. As I have said multiple times I don't give a fuck if you agree with my views I just want you to show the tiniest shred of decency to your fucking comrades for once in your fucking fash-defending life. Please dear god drop your 'morality' crusade and get over yourself.

-mousey-, r/LateStageGenderBinary 8 Comments [9/21/2017 11:33:22 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 131896

Name me another leader that turned an agricultural poverty stricken, war wounded, feudal wreck into a nuclear world power in the space of twenty years. Name me another leader who's country almost single-handedly, not only repelled fascism, but pushed it back into its spawn and annihilated it. You can historically revise all you want, but Stalin was the best thing that could have happened to the allies.

Needless to say, I don't care if a leader holds up good old fashioned Christian ideals of 'goodness'. I don't care for leaders who sit back while the world burns around them. I care if they gut fascists. Stalin gutted fascists.

-mousey-, r/LateStageGenderBinary 8 Comments [9/21/2017 11:33:09 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie
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