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Quote# 137858

We have known for a long time now that the LGBTQ community wants Christians to practice their faith only in church. They are bigots and evil by nature. Their chosen lifestyle and confusion makes them believe that they are superior to normal people . But we know that they are very confused individuals.

Mike LaBorde, Pat Dollard.com 11 Comments [4/18/2018 1:15:49 PM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 137856

(=Two quotes by same fundie on the same thread=)

Hey, there are NO English words in the original scriptures, which are in Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. But biblical scholars for 2000 years have agreed that the Sodom and Gomorrah story in Genesis 18-19 is mostly about sex (and only a little about hospitality). A normal reading the text makes this clear to any literate person who does not have a LGBTQ bias. Jude 1:7 clarifies the argument completely. The Jews and early Christians were of the same mind in interpreting the Genesis story. And for 2000 years no one has refuted it. Why people do now is obvious....their motivation is to make it seem that homosexuality is not a part of the story and that it is not a sin (despite Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, and Deuteronomy 23:18, not to mention the NT passages in Romans 1 and 2 Corinthians 6). They really don't care what the Bible says, they are going to do what they want to do.


Jude 1:7 indicates that the Sodom and Gomorrah fiasco was not just about hospitality. A normal read of the text in most English translations also reflects that it was about pansexuality and rape. Check out Genesis 18-19 yourself. The LGBTQ crowd hates this and constantly tries revise the scriptures to mean something that no one has every before this half-century has ever thought them to mean. 2000 years of scholarly study has consistently interpreted the story to be about homosexuality and rape (far more than inhospitality, which may also be part of the picture)-- which is where "sodomy" got its name.

Bruce Atkinson, Disqus 10 Comments [4/18/2018 1:15:41 PM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 137854

CHICAGO — A Republican candidate for the Illinois Legislature is under fire from his own party amid allegations that he asked an African-American candidate for state attorney general whether she was a “lesbo” and used a racial slur during a conversation with her.

Now, Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner and the Republican floor leader of the Illinois House, Peter Breen, are calling for the candidate, Burt Minor, to drop out of a race for state representative.

“He’s not fit to be a Republican nominee for office, especially not the General Assembly,” Breen told POLITICO. “His conduct was outrageous.”

At issue is a conversation that took place last fall between Minor and Republican attorney general candidate Erika Harold. Harold, the party-backed candidate for the GOP, who is also a Harvard Law graduate and former Miss America, was talking to Minor in his capacity as a Winfield Township chairman.

“[Minor] asked Ms. Harold personal questions about her marital status, and even her sexual orientation, going so far as to inquire whether she was a ‘lesbo,’” Breen wrote in a letter to other Republicans this morning. “The chairman also used the full ‘n-word’ repeatedly in front of Ms. Harold and her assistant, asking whether she found its usage offensive.”

Breen told POLITICO that in a meeting, Minor admitted to using the slur and had “tried to explain it away, saying that she wanted him to ask the question so she could get it on the record, which is obviously absurd.”

Burt Minor, Politico 0 Comments [4/18/2018 1:15:30 PM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 137850

1st. Atheists have to accept that GOD does exists for them to have an argument over His nonexistence (in their view). There argument is invalid.

Michelle Cayson, Facebook 9 Comments [4/18/2018 1:14:26 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 137837


If you've been following the news for the past week, you've heard by now that FB's head M. Zuckerberg has been testifying before Congress about how this site has purposely been targeting Christian and conservative content like mine, attempting to stop our reach and shut down pages that it deems a menace to the FB community.

I've been telling my followers about this since 2016 when it became obvious that FB was targeting me (and I still have the emails between them and I to prove it). Now the whole world knows. It's great to finally be publicly validated and somewhat vindicated.

Also, for the past few days I've been telling those who follow me about several things I have going on at the moment that, due to being restricted from seeing it, you probably weren't aware of. Therefore I'll be extending and making them available for a bit longer.

These include a pay what you want special for all of my ebooks, and preregistering for a new eclass that contains never before seen or read material that deals with rooting out the demonic enemy in our bloodline that's attempting to keep us common, unaccomplished and living way beneath our God-granted capabilities.

(Many people suffer from generational violence, poverty and sickness, specifically due to this demonic messenger that has somehow become tied and connected to our genetics through someone from our families in the past who opened that doorway for it to gain access. This isn't about 'generational curses,' which has been done a million times already in the Body of Christ. This goes much deeper and is more practical.)

I want all of you to have full and total opportunity to have both of these: the great deal on my ebooks (which I've officially extended until today as well) and this latest eclass. Links for both will be in the comment section down below.

Keep myself and my team in your prayers, as we continue to fight the good fight against such opposition as these billion dollar tech companies that are attempting to silence genuine Christian voices online like ours (as well as others).

And please continue to support our work. There are very few Christian voices like this one that are willing to bring hard yet necessary words of correction to the Body of Christ. Everyone likes sugar-coated fluff these days. But mine isn't a fluffy ministry that makes you feel comfortable in sin. That's not my calling.

I was called to help bring you out of sin and into a closer more authentic walk with Jesus Christ. And I'll do this by whatever means necessary. So your prayers and support are always needed as the opposition for doing such work is insanely fierce.

God bless.

Mack Major, Facebook 2 Comments [4/18/2018 1:13:31 PM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 137832

I've been rereading Chaos by James Gleick (Viking, 1987) the last week. He uses the expression order masquerading as randomness to simply define chaos theory. I decided today to replace apparent randomness with that in the introductory paragraph to the "7 Seals"/theories...

Everything is connected, evolves by laws of Nature, is
(w)hole40 and mathematically interwoven. There’s structure, patterns, probability, and entanglement within order masquerading as randomness (chaos theory and quantum mechanics). Every†hing has meaning in the Grand Scheme of GOD/FOD’s universes. When an idea19* is connect59/74ed to Nature, it’s logical59 & was inevitable, e.g. base 10 (10 fingers) & sacred geometry/gematria74. The spoken word is linked to the written word, which is based on its alphabet, which is phonetic, pictographic, & has a numerical order connected to the Bible30, Nature & science. There’s a human and animal collective conscious/subconscious (GOD). In this bio-anthropocentric Universe, we’re not only ‘observers who affect the experiment’, we’re participants & cocreators.
The Meaning of Life: Earth – Leave It Better Than You Found It

Synchronism: 21:07 Miami 47 Philly 47

Bard Watson_Miami, Kiwi Farms 4 Comments [4/18/2018 1:13:14 PM]
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Quote# 137830

What do Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, and all other countries that we've bombed all have in common?

The answer is that they'll all be fine in twenty years. Let me clarify what I mean by this. I don't mean that they'll be economically recovered. I don't mean that they won't have lost hundreds of thousands of people. I don't mean any of that. I mean that they'll have secured the existence of their people and a future for their children. The little things like individual lives and luxuries will be gone, but they aren't in danger of losing the things that really matter.

They'll be fine as we either run out of money to fund our military activity or once the boomers die and nobody votes for war anymore. They can all think to themselves: "We'll be okay once the Americans leave, maybe not me personally, but We will be." And they can know for certain that the US will leave. Will it be in five years? Ten? Twenty? I don't know, but we'll be gone soon enough. In the eyes of history, a few decades isn't an especially long time.

If we really wanted to win this war, we wouldn't be relying so much on our military. You know what we'd do? We'd be taking millions of ordinary American families and giving them incentives to go live in and develop these middle eastern nations. We'd build schools, wholesome communities, a police force, have kids, and so on. When would we leave? Never. That's how you win a war. Have you ever heard the meme "If not for X, we'd all be speaking German right now?" This is the type of thought behind that meme. Sometimes you can change demographics with things like genocide or forcing them off their land, but you need to change the demographics.

This is also why Mexico's mass immigration is an act of war. We don't have the luxury that the Syrians have of knowing that what really matters will be safe in America. We are not faced merely with loss of luxury, economy, infrastructure, slight underpopulation or whatever. We cannot think to ourselves that things will probably be okay after a few decades. Our worries are the big things, like the existence of our people and a future for our children, and that's because what we're facing is the fundamental essence of war: demographic change. Military activity is part of most wars, but it's not what war is about. War is about demographic change.

WaltzRoommate, Reddit 3 Comments [4/18/2018 1:13:03 PM]
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Quote# 137817

If enough Americans felt the way I do, we'd be able to run the wicked out of this nation! And a glorious day that would be! Thankfully (and I get goosebumps just thinking about it) the Lord is literarily coming back one day soon, and when He does the wicked are going to tremble as they face the reality of the Lake of Fire for all eternity. Carrie Underwood is headed for that Lake of Fire. Judas knew Jesus and went straight to Hell.

I say hooray to Jesus!!! Yeah Jesus!!! If you want to cheer and shout for lesbians and bisexuals, for God-haters and seducers, for blasphemers and adulterers, for sluts and sleazy singers, for drunkard actors and drug-addicted entertainers, for immoral sports athletes and rebels, for sicko comedians and low-life American Idols, for idolaters and sex-perverts—then you go right on ahead my friend, but Jesus Christ is coming back soon, and He's not in a good mood (I assure you) over the wickedness in the world today.

Hebrews 1:9 quotes Psalms 45:7 concerning Christ, “Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.” Psalms 97:10, “Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints; he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.” The Lord hates evil and so should we as Christians. Sadly, most professed Christians today are cowards, silent concerning public evils and abominations. Carrie Underwood is leading a generation of youth into sexual immorality and sin. This is not of God.

Underwood's fans may think she is humble, but she's arrogant and sinfully proud. Anytime we choose to place our self upon the throne of our life instead of God, it's only because we are sinfully proud. Underwood's videos are all sensual, looking at the camera like she wants to have sex with the viewer. That's exactly what they're intended to do. It's all part of the Communist moral subversion of America. Sadly, young people today think everything's a big joke. The laugh about preaching and morals. When 42 children mocked Elisha's bald head as the preacher, telling him to get lost, two female bears tore them up severely and no doubt many died (2nd Kings 2:23-24).

Only a fool mocks the things of Jesus Christ. Noah's sons backed toward their father, taking great caution to avoid looking upon his nakedness. This teaches us the proper attitude toward nakedness. For Carrie Underwood to flaunt her healthy body that God gave her, wearing the attire of a prostitute, gyrating in sexual positions for every lustful man and woman to sinfully commit adultery in their heart with—is wickedness beyond description.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 2 Comments [4/18/2018 1:11:52 PM]
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Quote# 137810

Communist Cuban Government Has More Horsesense Than American Churches: Bans NIV!

I was so encourage yesterday, when I learned that the government of Cuba rejected a shipment of 17,000 copies of the New International Version (NIV) of the Bible. The NIV is perverse and corrupt! In the following 1:23 hour MP3 presentation, Dr. Gail Riplinger, exposes what is wrong with the modern Bible perversions: NEW AGE BIBLE VERSIONS. I'd like to say, “Thank you,” to Cuba's President, Raul Castro, on behalf of born-again Christians everywhere for lifting the ban against the Bible since 2015, and most of all, for having the wisdom to recognize that the NIV is worthless!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 0 Comments [4/18/2018 1:11:17 PM]
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Quote# 137806

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Parents plan 'Sex Ed Sit Out' to protest sexualized school curricula and sexualization of children"

(cut-and-pasted from Fox News, link here: http://www.foxnews.com/family/2018/04/12/parents-plan-sex-ed-sit-out-to-protest-sexualized-school-curricula.html)

Public schools have to teach real world issues. If you want to keep your children isolated from the world we live in, then put them in private school. As an educator however, I can say from experience that you are putting your children at a real disadvantage.

Lady Checkmate:
Education is meant to teach children reading, writing, arithmetic, etc., not promote an alt-left agenda that tells children they must decide at 3 if they are male or female and that grown men want to rape them, i.e., sexualizing children should NOT be a part of the curriculum nor should a foolish teacher/educator be allowed to manipulate the curriculum to include the sexualization of children nor promote their twisted "child rape" agenda. "Real world issues", taught in school, DO NOT and SHOULD NOT include sexualizing children. No matter how you word it, it's wrong. And if you're here to promote that (the sexualization of children/child rape), your stay will be brief. You can quote me on that.
Enjoy your day.

I'm a school teacher and I honestly wish that all we had to do is teach our kids the core subjects. Unfortunately, we are often faced with sexual issues because parents such as this woman will not teach their children anything about sex. I know because I had conservatives parents that never taught me about sex or homosexuality or anything like that. I learned by seeing dirty magazines and porn. No one should learn about sex in that way.

Lady Checkmate:
Buddy, you're trying to conflate two different issues. Sex (male and female within a marriage covenant) is natural and should be taught, at the right age. I'm sure mom is teaching her children about natural sex and the marriage covenant, husband and wife, as that's biblical. Anything outside of God's design is sin and abominations and NO, no decent parent (who loves their children) will teach their children to sin, i.e., rebel against God. Homosexuality is a sexual behavior choice and an abomination before God, so no, she is NOT teaching her children to sin. Stop your troll games, sir. They're boring, childish and simple.
Finally, you've been trolling our community for awhile, so let's wrap this up - get to the heart of your issue and why you're obsessed with us. It seems your parents taught you right, they didn't teach you to sin, BUT you chose to sin and rebelled against their sound teachings and God. How sad, for you. At least they tried. God will honor them for doing the right thing. You may be a prodigal, but you come across as reprobate. Seek Jesus Christ. If you're a prodigal, He hasn't turned His back on you, even if you turned your back on Him. Either way, you and I are done. I don't have time to be your substitute parent for you to project your issues on. My prayers are with your parents, any children you're exposed to and that if you're prodigal you return to God sooner than later. Again, stop the troll sock games and get right w/God OR move on. I'm not here to play with you.
P.S. Children are off limits here and trolling violates our community guidelines. Final warning.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 9 Comments [4/18/2018 1:10:48 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 137857

“Now I get it. Robert Mueller is a little sex-obsessed pervert jealous @realDonaldTrump was a billionaire Playboy with beautiful starlets & playmates. CLEARLY Mueller has never been attractive to a woman is his life. Now it all makes sense. #MUELLERPERVERT”

Wayne Allyn Root, Twitter 14 Comments [4/18/2018 11:24:08 AM]
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Submitted By: kuyohashi

Quote# 137855

(=A Homophobic Commentor am sing why they where banned from a Gay Christians Blog=)

Jo Brown: Why did you block me from commenting on your blog Kimberly? I read you Comment Covenant and did not break any of its rules, but I did notice that you didn't stick to the process that would eventually lead to someone being blocked. (ie: What happened to the gentle warning?) I tried to get a message to you via the "contact us" link on your blog's host, with my reply to your comment, plus an add-on comment I wrote once I realised I couldn't post that reply due to you having blocked me. I don't know if that message will get to you.
My comments were cordial, but I suspect your bias prevents you from seeing that. By blocking me, it shows you aren't willing to accept others as you would like to be accepted yourself.

Kimberly Knight: Because my blog is akin to a table in my home and I would not permit anyone to sit at my table and abuse me or my guests. I have encountered way too many abusive trolls like yourself with way more time than grace on your hands to allow you to take over and spread your fear and loathing via my site. If you want to write your own blog, please feel free but you are in no way welcome at my table. Your comments were ANYTHING BUT cordial but thank you so much for giving me this opportunity to share my voice with even more readers. I will not respond to anything you post in any other forum whatsoever so I hope you find someone else's work to obsess over. For those who would like to check out my blog called Coming Out Christian you can find it at the following link: www.patheos.com/blogs/kimbe...

Thanks Jo!

Jo Brown: In that case, you're a coward Kimberly. You can't handle someone who doesn't fully agree with you. You can't even point out how exactly someone's post is "full of fear and loathing" or "unintelligent and ignorant". It is noteworthy that you never addressed any of the things I said, but merely engaged in an attack on me, and then took the coward's way out by blocking me so that I could not reply to you. You wrote a Comment Covenant with loads of platitudes about how we're all supposed to be nice and respectful of each other's viewpoint, and then you violate your own covenant by blocking me without warning, and adding a pious "peace be with you" greeting at the end. How hypocritical! Would Jesus act that way? Is that the way to act if you want acceptance? Is that how you build bridges? You're a fraud Kimberly, and your blog is nothing but a sycophant's club. You're not interested in debate, only in words that mollify your internal self-doubts. That's also why you cannot interpret my post in any way other than as an attack from someone who supposedly fears and loathes you. It seems from this that you want to be feared and loathed. You and the sycophantic commenters in your blog have the most obvious cognitive dissonance I have ever witnessed in a group of people. If your aim was to leave a feeling of distaste in people who encounter you, you have certainly achieved that goal. You won't win respect and acceptance from the non-gay community if you continue to act this way.

Jo Brown, Pink News 8 Comments [4/18/2018 8:08:35 AM]
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Quote# 137853

Unless you're an autist or handicapped yourself, it isn't your place to be offended for them.

beatles123, Wrestling Forum 12 Comments [4/18/2018 6:42:20 AM]
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Quote# 137851

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Alt-left Insanity: David Buckel, gay rights lawyer, burns himself to death in protest"

(cut and pasted from Fox News, link here: David Buckel, prominent gay rights lawyer, burns himself to death in New York to protest global warming)

He has my vote for Donkey of the Week. I just can't mourn people like this. He burned here, now he is burning there. "Good riddance" is the best I can muster.

Wolf-Spider, Disqus - Faith & Religion and Disqus - News Network 10 Comments [4/18/2018 6:41:14 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 137849

It all comes from the upbringing. If you bring people up in Gods word. They will understand and follow Gods word. The only thing that supports the scientific facts are. The continual watching of the approval same-sex agenda on TV. As well as the lack of teaching in the word of God.

Michael Zeestraten, Facebook 8 Comments [4/17/2018 4:33:26 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 137838

>if there should be any AOC at all

There shouldn’t.
The ancient laws were better:
If you raped a na’ar (child) who was still in her father’s house, you kept her and payed the father for her. No age of consent spoken of.

This also stopped fathers from entering a conspiracy to deny everyone young girls as brides (like what happened in America, by the will of the moronic white man)

svrn, Triweekly Antifeminist 13 Comments [4/17/2018 3:04:14 PM]
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Quote# 137835

First, your WikiPedia arcticle means absolutely nothing. Remember when like Japan bombed Pearl Harbor and then wait, suddenly they are a major ally of ours in the pacific. How did that's happen? Maybe because relationships and countries change.
Secondly, are you out of your mind? Please explain to me how Western Civilizarion and America was not based on Judeo Christian values. Obviously most of the founders were diest, but that does not mean that they were not majorly influenced by Judeo Christian values because it isn't obvious that they were. Here's a brief list of some of the values, please explain to me how the Consitution was not based off of these principles:
Dignity of Human Life
Traditional Family Values
Right to a God-Centered Education
A National Work Ethic
Common Decency
The Abrahamic Covenant: If people or a nation follows the Bible, they will be blessed by God
Personal Accountability
Freedoms coming from God and not government

Freedom4Merica, nationstates 10 Comments [4/17/2018 1:53:46 PM]
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Submitted By: zyr

Quote# 137831

Today’s Laugh 4-14-18


It could happen, and probably will.

"Languages that assign gender to nouns will convert them to neuter," the spectacle-wearing processor says, "In addition, anyone using the word 'gender' will be prosecuted."

On his right, a poster board commands that, in German, "der Mann" and "die Frau" should both be replaced with "das Person", in English, "girl" and "boy" should be replaced with "student", and, in Sweden, "he/she" should be replaced with "it".

On the professor's left, the Devil thinks, "I'm scraping the barrel here. The rapture has to be awfully close."

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 18 Comments [4/17/2018 8:31:37 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 137824

The Number 13 Means Rebellion

“Twelve years they served Chedorlaomer, and in the thirteenth year they rebelled.” —Genesis 14:4

There is something called the law of first beginnings, that is, where something originated. You'd be surprised how many things originate from the Bible. I believe that the number 13 originates with Nimrod at the tower and city of Babel, who was the thirteenth from Adam. Also, in Genesis 14:4, “Twelve years they served Chedorlaomer, and in the thirteenth year they rebelled.” The number 13 represents REBELLION. Coincidence? Perhaps the most obvious origin of the number 13 and it's meaning is the fact that a child becomes rebellious at around age 13. You decide!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 26 Comments [4/16/2018 10:09:21 PM]
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Quote# 137812


Shrimpy, I know you're reading this, and I know how much you love it when people tell you to "get help", makes you feel special doesn't it? I just want to say, I'm definitely not one of those people. I actively don't want you to get help. I can picture how much stress you put yourself through every, single, day. You're fucking balding because of it. I bet you toss and turn from sheer nausea every night, knowing how impotent you are, knowing that no matter how much you scream into the void, which you do all day every day, nobody will hear you. You really fucking believe HBomb stole that slogan from you, because you have nothing else going on in your life, and even that little thing is beyond the grasp of your meaty man-hands. I relish in how much undue stress you put yourself through every day, and I hope you keep going through it every day until you die at age 50 from sheer stress and not taking care of your bloated body. Nobody loves you, and it doesn't even matter if you "deserve" love or not as you keep saying. In the end, nobody, not a single fucking soul, cares about you long-term. You even had to make a sockpuppet on twitter because you don't have a single friend! We're the closest you'll ever get to someone caring about you, and even that isn't much, because most of us kind of forget you even exist after we're done reading the thread, so we can go on to read the next thread about the next generic moron that comes our way.

Shrimpy, you're not even sad. You're nothing. No matter how much you bluff about killing yourself, you are still nothing. You don't matter, you don't even exist. Nobody pays attention to you, and they never will. You should go to bed tonight with a new thought in your head. Not anger, or rage, or frustration, but instead despair. Absolute, incomprehensible despair, knowing literally nobody on this earth even cares about you. No one loves you, no one hates you, you simply don't matter.

But I know this won't phase you, because you need attention. All people do. And since nobody loves you, at least you can pretend people hate you. Screaming into the void, saying everyone hates you and you're an innocent victim, when nobody even follows you on twitter or twitch. This is the only way you know how to cope, the only thing you have to distract yourself from the crushing loneliness. I just wanna say again, I'm a huge fan, and I fucking love thinking about you withering in the despair of absolute solitude like this. I hope it lasts.

The Fool, Kiwi Farms 32 Comments [4/16/2018 3:57:45 PM]
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Quote# 137811

Obamacare was the beginning of the reality of the 70's movie "Logan's Run"

Revmitchell, Baptistboard 11 Comments [4/16/2018 3:56:50 PM]
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Submitted By: Kag

Quote# 137730

Now, the crux of the matter is what is 'legal' and what is not. It's not been too long since homosexuality has been broadly made legal across the world, it's still against the law in some places and I think we can see now that thinking homosexuality should be 'illegal' is madness. I suppose the reason pedophilia (or rather it's relating activities) is deemed illegal are because it must involve children, and it's harmful to children. But I would like to tentatively posit the idea that it doesn't have to be necessarily harmful and that it's the very fact that pedophilia is illegal and despised by society that makes it so harmful.

In a similar fashion to how the criminalization of recreational drugs magnifies their harm, if someone is to find satisfaction with regards to pedophilic urges they are going to have to break the law, be secretive use threats or violence, in other words, be harmful. I think if pedophilia was to be decriminalized, folk like yourself, who have a natural sexual orientation towards children might get a chance to explore that in a more open and less harmful way. Pornography involving children doesn't have to be seedy abuse and extortion, it could be fair and accountable, regulated and operated according to welfare laws.

[deleted], reddit 18 Comments [4/15/2018 11:24:54 AM]
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Quote# 137710

Were the Middle Ages intolerant? Yes, they were intolerant of that which they viewed as wrong. Were they ignorant? For many people yes, the majority were uneducated though probably still more educated than is generally thought but there was also a minority of very highly educated people and many of the scientific theories and discoveries that are attributed to later thinkers actually originated in the Middle Ages. St Thomas Aquinas was certainly no intellectual featherweight! But, finally, what about royal absolutism? Monarchs in Medieval times were “absolute” but they were far from arbitrary. They did not rule through brute force but through what were essential free contracts between parties that were to their mutual benefit. This was the basis of the feudal relationship; security and the use of land provided in exchange for certain goods or services.

Not only was there no “government” as we would recognize it today, but even the monarchies were decentralized into subsidiary monarchies. This sort of relationship reached upward to the King, the Holy Roman Emperor and (for some) the Pope while also reaching downward to the princes, dukes, barons and free commoners. Yet, no one, not even bound serfs, could be forced to provide any good or service. It was, in many ways, the sort of privatized society that libertarians uphold as the ideal. Taxes were low, in some cases even nonexistent and only collected temporarily in times of necessity. At each level these “monarchies” were autonomous, entering freely into contracts with each other for support, profit and protection. Whether a prince or a landowning commoner, what you possessed was truly your own and no one could arbitrarily take it from you or tell you what to do with it; hence the old saying that, “an Englishman’s home is his castle”.

Mad Monarchist, The Mad Monarchist 17 Comments [4/15/2018 6:15:23 AM]
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Submitted By: Michael

Quote# 137803


Apollo was the son of Zeus and Leto. His name is spelled Apollon in Greek and it means DESTROYER or EXTERMINATOR:

And they (demons) had a king over them, who is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek Apollyon, in Latin Exterminans (Apocalypse 9:11, Douay-Rheims Version).

Delphi in Greece was the HQ of Apollo worship, and "pilgrims" came from all over the world to have their futures foretold. Alexander the Great consulted the oracle before he set out to conquer the world.

The oracle of Apollo at Delphi was one of the most famous shrines of divination in the ancient world and it was a fantastic cash cow for the priests of Apollo.

To the great dismay of the priests, the oracle stopped working after the Resurrection of Christ from the dead.

Apollo is a copy of the Egyptian god Horus who was always depicted NAKED. Part of the worship of Horus and the golden calf included making people naked:

And when Moses saw that the people were naked (for Aaron had made them naked unto their shame among their enemies). Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said "Who is on JEHOVAH's side let him come unto me" (Exodus 32:25-26).

Horus, or Apollo worship, is indeed very ancient.

Apollo was the sun god and his devotees believed that he drove the chariot of the sun across the sky each day.

December 25th was his birthday!

As the "patron god" of music, Apollo was depicted holding a musical instrument called a lyre.

Lucifer or Satan was in charge of the heavenly choir before he led the revolt against JEHOVAH....Apollyon is the only god with the same name in Greek and Latin. He had a twin sister named Artemis; who was called Isis in Egypt, and Diana in Roma.

Patrick Scrivener , Reformation 19 Comments [4/14/2018 11:06:48 AM]
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Rebirth of The Roman Empire
When the prophet Daniel asked for the interpretation of the visions he was seeing, especially the meaning of the fourth beast that was far more dreadful than the others, an angel told him that

'The fourth beast will be a fourth kingdom on the earth, which will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth and tread it down and crush it. 'As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings will arise; and another will arise after them, and he will be different from the previous ones and will subdue three kings. 'He will speak out against the Most High and wear down the saints of the Highest One, and he will intend to make alterations in times and in law; and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time. (Daniel 7:23-25 NASB)

Note: Daniel chapters two and seven parallel each other inasmuch as both prophesy a succession of empires, beginning with the Babylonians and followed by Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome. The animal imagery of chapter 7 corresponds to the sections of the statue in chapter 2.

In chapter 7 the angel told Daniel that a kingdom will one day arise that will be different from all other kingdoms because it will devour the whole earth. Space does not permit going into detail here but this fourth kingdom that springs from an apparently dormant (not dead) Roman Empire, will be the dominant force in the world when our Lord returns... 'devouring the whole earth'. See A Dragon and Two Beasts

For a long time now, those who seriously study God's word have been convinced that we are currently seeing the beginning of the fulfillment of these prophecies inasmuch as the rebirth of the Roman Empire has taken place in the form of the European Union. Whether they are in favor of the EU or not, most are under the impression that it is just a political organization. However, if one were to pay close attention, the European Union's flag, anthem, architecture, and its logo are all indicative of the major spiritual implications behind a supposedly secular organization.

See The European Union Peaceful Political Entity Or The Fifth And Final Gentile Kingdom Spoken Of By The Prophet Daniel?

The EU Superstate
Twenty five hundred years ago Daniel saw the Roman Empire revived from the dead in the end times. Then, in September, came quite a shock: The EU, at an astonishing art exhibition sketching the future of the organization, described itself under the heading : "Roman Empire Returns."


The Falling Away
In his letter to the Thessalonians Paul mentioned several things that had to happen before the day of the Lord arrive, i.e. great apostasy when some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons. Also the man if sin would be revealed.

Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, (2 Thessalonians 2:3 NASB)

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths. (2 Timothy 4:3-4 NASB)

The problem is that although most Christians know there will be great apostasy or falling away from the faith, they seem to think (i.e. if they think about it at all) that it will happen at some vague point in time in the future. What few seem to realize is that the apostasy of the last days isn't coming, IT IS ALREADY HERE. The falling away has gone largely unrecognized simply because it does not conform to the common perception that apostasy involves believers becoming less religious and more materialistic - less spiritual and more worldly.

The apostasy has taken exactly the opposite form

Certainly a large percentage of humanity has become more carnal however, a staggering number of people have actually become more spiritual, seeking out the divine in every possible nook and cranny, including within themselves. While their counterparts outside the church are focused on raising their level of consciousness and attaining enlightenment and self-actualization through an assortments of spiritual practices, modern Christians are trying to 'find God' or enhance their experience of Jesus by highly questionable means like contemplative prayer, meditation, labyrinths, yoga etc. See The Occult Take Over of The Once Christian Church - Borrowing From Catholicism, Buddhism, Hinduism, and The New Age HERE

The only difference being that Christians hide their extra-biblical practices under a thin veneer of Christianity.

Carol Brooks, InPlainSite 3 Comments [4/14/2018 11:06:40 AM]
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