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Quote# 139233

(=Bible scholar claims passage condemning homosexuals was rewritten=)

Blood Vipre: So if this is true then we can't trust ANY part of the Bible whatsoever, simply because of this article's claims. What utter crap.

Petej: That’s not what he’s saying. He’s not questioning the validity of the canonical version. He’s talking about it’s development.

Martin: Pete, Talking about its development cast doubt on its inerrancy and without inerrancy the Bible is worthless.

Blood Vipre and Martin, Premier 12 Comments [7/27/2018 5:51:56 AM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 139229

Chad-Incel Alliance

I told the Chads at work about inceldom and showed one incels.me. It's the normies who think it's garbage and say bad things but my Chad friend sympathizes and then tried to get his ex-girlfriend to date me. Chad also agreed with the blackpill and is like "yeah i don't know why people deny it, i guess they just want to believe they can solve their problems when in reality it was determined at birth". Also one time some foid complained about me for sexual harassment and Chad stood up for me saying "he was just talking to her she's complaining for no reason".

FoidsDeserveCancer, incels.me 11 Comments [7/26/2018 11:32:02 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139228

Call me all the names you want, great will be my reward in heaven because I am persecuted for JESUS names sake just as the prophets were.

Can't stop our prayers either, done,God has heard.

It is up to God how far to the pig pen He might take you. Depends how deep your pride is, may take years. I trust God knows perfectly what to do, He is patient and long-suffering desiring all to come to repentance.

If your pride is too deep to humbly come to God and accept the free gift He is offering you, you will pay the eternal consequences. BUT you have been forewarned.

REPENT for the Kingdom of God is at hand.

Susan Perelka, Christian News Network 12 Comments [7/26/2018 11:31:54 PM]
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Submitted By: Bob J

Quote# 139227

(In response to: How would Christians feel if they were praying to the wrong god, who will punish them for it?)

Christians do not pray to the wrong God if they know Christ. It would be impossible to miss God. Christians do not fear punishment from God because He loves them and has promised them eternal joys in heaven.

Larry Walden, Quora 10 Comments [7/26/2018 11:31:44 PM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 139226

Today's Laugh 7-26-18



Transcript:
Caption: Fake media presents: Persistence of Madness
Shadowy figure on cliff (holding "Blackmail by Putin" sign):
Another dud. But there's breaking news coming up!

(A man is throwing assorted boxes over a cliff marked "City Dump" - the boxes are variously marked: "Russia", "Incompetent", "Treason", "Trade War", "Stormie (sic) Daniels", "Border Crisis", "Mental Illness", "Nuclear War", "Heart Disease", "Helsinki", "Trump-Cohen Tapes". These are being fed intravenously into Trump's beefed-up arm. Trump's shirt says MAGA.)

Mick Williams:
Episode: "So many shots in the foot"
They never learn. Strong delusion, you know

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 13 Comments [7/26/2018 11:31:01 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 139225

Oh look, another thread where people can claim moral superiority while boasting their ignorance of various words and their proper definitions, as well as the history of humankind, all the while trying to coerce their views onto others. If this was asked 100-150 years ago, people would be fine with it. With the way we've been conditioned now, everything is considered wrong or taboo regardless of what it is.

(and before anyone wants to spout "its X years ago it doesnt count anymore" you might want to look at many of the viewpoints and legislatures that say otherwise. People and their stance on homosexuality for example use their "moral standard" on something over 2000 years old.)

Regardless of who thinks what, its something that should be kept between the two of them and anyone DIRECTLY involved. They are obviously stating that they are willing to wait until its legal to get together without any repercussions so why do people still have a problem? Because you've been conditioned by the current society to shun something that was accepted by your great/great-great grandparents? Crab in a barrel, that's all humans are; "If I'm not happy i sure as hell don't want anyone else to be!"

Btw:

Pedophilia - 5-9
Hebephilia - 10-14
Ephebophilia - 15-19

Since she's reached puberty, it's no longer pedophilia. If you want to make a stance against it, that's cool, but please enlighten yourselves and try to act a bit more intelligent in your choice of words to correctly use.

Mrbleedinggums, MMO Champion 5 Comments [7/26/2018 11:30:22 PM]
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Quote# 139224

It comes down to culture and such. Due to certain things, that shall remain unnamed, Asian culture is exposed to relationships with young people, both the adult and young are becoming more used to this and thus see nothing wrong with it.

I don't think she is cute, good looking or anything.. not hideous either, but certainly she doesn't tickle my fancy.

If I could, I would date someone under aged but she would have to be one extremely cute loli or some hot teenage girl, again, what a person is exposed to determines acceptance of things, some of us, are just more ahead than others. Think many years ago how gays, blacks, and interracial dating were accepted compared to now, quite sure back then people thought it was never going to get to the disgusting level that is at now.

Wowaccounttom, MMO Champion 0 Comments [7/26/2018 11:30:14 PM]
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Quote# 139223

I don't agree with it, but I also don't agree that 12 year old is a child. Today's society has just made them children. They are perfectly capable of making adult choices, and know the difference between right and wrong. Today's society babys "kids" like no other.

Hundreds of years ago, many married, had jobs, and had kids at 12 years old. In some third world countries this still is normal. I get fed up when some 20 year old goes to jail because he had mutual sex with some 15 year old. They both are to blame, and if it was mutual they should either be left alone or both given equal blame.

24 and 12 is a bit much though, but I still don't think 12 is a child. As history has proven, a 12 year old is perfectly capable of having a family but it shouldn't be with a 24 year old. If it was 16 and 12? I'd say leave them alone and make sure their having safe sex.

Tyrindor, MMO Champion 5 Comments [7/26/2018 11:30:05 PM]
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Quote# 139222

The problem is, because he's been around her since she was so young, who knows if the love is mutual? The guy met her when she was 8 (he would have been 20)...does that seem healthy?

People like to talk about "well, 12 year-olds were married and having children in the past" but they seem to forget that you'd more than likely be dead by 30.

Let children be children... Don't rope them into this sort of thing until they're ready.
So they knew each other for a while before they declared their love?

Doesn't sound like a problem. If she is consenting then it seems like she believes she's ready.



You dont think a 20+ can manipulate a 8-12 year old especially after a long time to make her think she "love" him. Im pretty sure a 12 year old dont know what real love is. Go away lolli lover.

You don't think a 12 year old is capable of any form of a basic thought process? Go away with your closed mindedness.

Do you believe that a 12 year old should be able to vote, carry a fire arm, and be tried as an adult for their crimes?


Children are extremely easy to influence.
No, but to think that 12 year olds can't think for themselves because they're 12 and not 18 is pretty silly.

She may be young, but setting standards based on age becomes incredibly superficial, especially now that she's already reached puberty. Humans may have died young in the past, but the fact remains that people were indeed ready for(or at least in) relationships at this age. Everyone matures differently. The problem now is that being 12 is a social stigma.


As of now the two claim that it's a mutual love. She may very well have a change of heart as she grows older, but who knows? It's only an assumption that he is an manipulative pedophilian rapist grounded in people that believe this sort of age difference is a taboo beyond murder. Like that guy a page or two ago saying that finding him a monster and that this relationship is an atrocity are "basic moral values" or whatever

Skellington, MMO Champion 3 Comments [7/26/2018 11:29:17 PM]
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Quote# 139221

[On adults having sex with children]

If the love is mutual then who cares? Screaming "filthy pedo" isn't going to change how they feel.

Skellington, MMO Champion 6 Comments [7/26/2018 11:18:43 PM]
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Quote# 139220

Are you implying people don't change after 18? I hope that's a joke. People change physically and mentally throughout their entire lives. There's no magic number for when you're suddenly mature and ready for sex or relationships. Most 30 year olds, or even 25 year olds, would think the typical 18 year old is an idiot. Conversely, I know adults who are less mature than their kids. The only reason most of us are frowning on this is because it's burned into our heads that if anybody above 18 is with anybody below 18, it's creepy, but anything else is good to go. Legality is the only thing stopping a lot of men from 20 to 30 from dating teenagers. Girls like older men with a more rugged look, and a lot of guys like younger girls with a fresh, unused, slender rather than curvy look. If laws weren't a factor, the only thing people would deem creepy would be being interested in prepubescents. That's downright disturbing. I voted I don't know what to say, because 12 is right on the edge of that prepubescent line. Some look as good as any 16 year old, and could be mistaken for one if they fake themselves out in makeup and whatnot, but others look about 7.

Most males are actually "hebephiles". Males are programmed to be attracted (well, physically attracted either way) to females in mid puberty (the difference today is that people reach puberty earlier). The reason most don't act on it or even admit it is laws.

Fixed. I guarantee, if it was legal, there would be a lot more men dating young teenagers

Itisamuh, MMO Champion 0 Comments [7/26/2018 11:18:31 PM]
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Quote# 139219

[Adult datea a 12 year old]

Welcome to the WORLD little US Boi. Whats not ok for you can be ok for somebody else. Hes waiting and she probably hit Puberty already so it doesnt even make him a Pedophile like what you People call it. Nobody realy says anything when a 70year old marrys a 18year old but when its under 14 they all go "Oh my god this is so disgusting" bla bla .. If you can bear children you are ready thats the way Nature works

Ripslyme, MMO Champion 2 Comments [7/26/2018 11:18:25 PM]
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Quote# 139218

Meh, by the age of 12, I was already jacking-off at least once a day. And I'm sure most girls have had their first period by then. At that point, I think it's safe to say that age is just a number.

A 12 year old dating someone twice her age isn't as big a deal as some might make it out to be. He's not even really old enough to be her dad, although I'm sure it's possible. Way back in the early days, you were married by 13 and had kids by 16. People didn't live very long back then, so you didn't have time to waste.

This situation might not be "socially acceptable", but who gives a shit about that? If she were 18 and he were 36, this wouldn't even be news.

Onesent, MMO Champion 0 Comments [7/26/2018 11:18:20 PM]
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Quote# 139214

Dear Christians, it doesn’t matter how you feel. It matters what the Bible says.

Jen Hatmaker is a prominent Christian author and speaker. My wife tells me she had a show on HGTV for a while. These days, she’s apparently moved away from renovating homes to renovating Scripture.

That’s a problem, because unlike an old ranch-style house with ugly carpets and 1970’s wallpaper, God’s Holy Word doesn’t need any updates. It’s eternal, unchanging, and always right, no matter how we happen to feel about it.

Christians like Jen Hatmaker would do well to remember this. Especially if they’ve been given, or have claimed for themselves, a position of leadership in the faith. It’s a grave responsibility to be a Christian with an audience. As someone with an audience of my own, I know this well. If we contradict Christian teaching, if we misrepresent Christ’s commandments, if we lead people away from the truth and into the darkness, we have not only put their souls in jeopardy but our own. Christ says it would be better for us to drown in the sea with a stone tied around our necks than to cause someone else to stumble into sin. I believe He meant that quite literally.


That leads us to Hatmaker’s interview with Religion News this week.

When asked about gay “marriage,” Hatmaker declared that homosexuals have the “right” to marry members of the same sex. She said our churches should offer support and instruction to those in gay “marriages.” In other words, she believes that churches should not only accept the abomination of gay “marriage,” but actively facilitate it. When asked if she would attend a gay “wedding,” she said she’d be there with “gladness,” ready to pop the champagne and celebrate their sin with them. She said that if her own child turned out to be gay, she would want him to enter a “faithful, committed marriage” with another man. And, in final act of heresy, she announced that gay sexual relationships are “holy.”

This is the Gospel according to Jen Hatmaker. Many supposed Christians in our culture have a similar Gospel. But it may be useful to pause here and reflect on what the Actual Gospel has to say on the subject. Indeed, we either believe that the Bible is the infallible word of God or we don’t. If we don’t, then we shouldn’t be writing books and giving interviews and going on TV and speaking in front of crowds while waving the “Christian” banner. We should renounce the faith, declare ourselves agnostic or atheist or whatever, and then we’ll be free to promote moral relativism and hedonism all we want. We’ll still be wrong, but at least we’ll no longer be heretics. But if we do actually accept the Bible as the unalterable and eternal truth, then we must make sure that we aren’t publicly contradicting it.

So, for the benefit of those Christians who think Scripture was silent on the issues of marriage and sexuality, here are a few relevant passages:

“Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” – 1 Corinthians 6:9

“For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.” – Romans 1:26

“Now we know that the law is good, if any one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, immoral persons, sodomites, kidnappers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine” – 1 Timothy 1:8

“Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise acted immorally and indulged in unnatural lust, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.” – Jude 7

Hatmaker called gay relationships “holy,” which means divine, while the Apostle Paul called them degrading and unnatural, and promised that anyone who practices homosexuality and does not repent will be barred from the Kingdom of God. As Christians, we are left to ponder who is a greater authority here: The Apostle Paul or the lady from HGTV.

Now, you may struggle with the Biblical teaching on homosexuality, just as you may struggle with any other teaching. You may not understand it. You may find it harsh and difficult and emotionally distressing. But before we even get into explaining why the Bible says what it says, all we really need to establish is that it does say it. Period. We are commanded by God to accept this teaching or risk losing our souls. It’s not an option. We are not required to follow Christ only in the areas where we can find mutual agreement with Him. Our consent and agreement does not matter. At all. Not one tiny bit. We are called to follow regardless. That’s what it means to love God.

If Mrs. Hatmaker finds herself grappling with doubt and uncertainty about this teaching or any other, she should pray about it, consult her pastor, read Scripture, read Christian apologetics on the topic, pray some more and then pray again. She should do all of this in private, speaking only with close Christian friends and mentors who may be able to help her sort through it. But what she should not do — what she absolutely cannot do — is stand in front of the world and declare these teachings moot just because she finds them distasteful. How she feels about them personally is of no consequence. She is not God. Her thoughts and feelings don’t become reality just because they entered into her head.

Obedience is not emphasized in churches very often these days, but it should be. Obedience to God means following Him, standing by Him, affirming His teachings at all times, even when we struggle to understand them. We are commanded to submit to God. Submit. That means give in to His Word and His Law, no matter how it makes us feel.

So, why is gay marriage wrong? Well, first of all, because He said so. I know that reason will not be enough to convince unbelievers outside of the church, but for Christians, if we intend to continue being Christian, it is reason enough. “Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding,” Proverbs reminds us. If you don’t understand why God condemns the homosexual act, that’s because you lack wisdom and insight. It’s not because God is wrong. Don’t rely on your own understanding. Trust God. That’s the fundamental problem with Christians who try to “update” the sexual morality of the Bible: They don’t trust God. They don’t believe Him. And if they don’t believe Him, it’s hard to see how they could really believe in Him.

But if we do want to understand why God has declared the homosexual act a sin — even if the why of God doesn’t matter nearly as much as the what — I would recommend that we do three things:

First, read the first chapter of Genesis. God looked at Adam alone on Earth and decided that he needed a partner. It is not good for man to be alone, He said, so he made Eve. This tells us that men and women were, in a very intimate and profound way, made for each other.

Second, read the early passages in the Gospels. Christ was born of a woman and raised by His mother and His earthly father. We call Jesus, Mary, and Joseph the “Holy Family,” but you might also call them the “correct” or “true” family. If we want to know what a family is supposed to look like — and if all of the Biblical words and commands and teachings on the subject are somehow not enough — then we need only observe the physical, literal demonstration God provided for us. He said, “Here is a family, THE family. Make your families like this one.” How much clearer could He be?

Third, read Matthew 19. Jesus, casting away any lingering doubts, describes a lawful marriage in detail: “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

According to the Son of God, a marriage occurs when a man is united to his wife and the two become one flesh. There you go. There it is. There’s the truth. What part of “man united to his wife” is difficult to understand?

These three passages are especially important because they tell us something about the nature of things. Marriage has a certain nature. It serves a certain function. It does certain things and exists for certain reasons, and those things and those reasons and those functions are all made clear by God and His prophets and Apostles. If we read the Bible, we come to understand that gay “marriage” is not simply immoral, but intrinsically impossible. It doesn’t just defy God’s commandments, it defies logic. Speaking of gay “marriage” is like speaking of “dry water” or “rectangular triangles.” It’s simply incoherent.

Now, there are many aspects of the faith that I find challenging and mysterious. Personally, for me, this isn’t one of them. It all seems quite sensible and utterly consistent with the innate moral intuition that all human beings possess. But even if I couldn’t see the logic in Biblical marriage and even if I couldn’t intuit it based on natural law, it would still be just as true, and I would be called to affirm it and profess it all the same. There are many concepts that my puny little brain can’t seem to wrap itself around, but that’s why I must lean on God’s understanding. Not mine. And certainly not Jen Hatmaker’s.

So I would ask Mrs. Hatmaker what she believes has happened in the last few years that all of a sudden changes the fundamental nature of marriage? What exactly have we learned, in our modern and enlightened state, that even Jesus Christ did not know? What is the truth that we’ve discovered that debunks the truth given to us by God Almighty? Yes, a lot of us have icky feelings about Biblical sexual morality, but feelings aren’t truth.

Of course I’m being a bit flippant. Nothing has happened or can ever happen to debunk or disprove God’s truth. All that can happen is that we, in our weakness and stupidity, become blinded to it. And if we are blind then we should pray to have our eyes opened. But until that happens, all we can do is follow God’s voice in the darkness, wherever it leads. That, we should always remember, is the very essence of faith.

Matt Walsh, The Blaze 18 Comments [7/26/2018 2:06:29 PM]
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Quote# 139208

Jews actually popularised rock, jazz, rap, speed metal etc as ways of attacking traditional culture. Their initial goal was to spread atheism, they did this with 'satanist' bands that weren't actually satanists but did promote atheism and made kids think it's cool to hate christianity, then when their retarded parents were like 'OMG THEY'RE WORSHIPPING SATAN' it made them think 'lol christians so dumb'.

Later on when christianity was dealt with they had no reason to continue spreading atheism so they instead promoted black culture to wash away with any sort of class and morality left in the culture. Instead they promote hatred for police, violence, drugs, meaningless sex etc.

The music industry is on par with, if not worse than, hollywood.

MarkimusMeridius, Reddit 10 Comments [7/26/2018 11:58:50 AM]
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Quote# 139207

James Flynn, famous for the Flynn effect (increase in both fluid and crystallized intelligence test scores measured in many parts of the world over the 20th century), believed that it might be less then 50% and wanted to do studies to prove this and even liberal universities wouldn't fund it. Hmmm. I wonder why a liberal university wouldn't want to prove IQ could be more environmental? Wouldn't that help their narrative? Well it's probably because regardless of their public stances that there are no races and IQ doesn't matter they privately KNOW IQ is genetic and ANY future research will just make that more and more obvious (and prove that they were dead wrong when they drove Rushton and Murray out of academia).
We welcome 100s of studies showing the flexibility of IQ (if they are well designed). The alt right isn't about science denial. It's the opposite of that. We are not trying to push IQ science into the public limelight because we think it shows whites are superior. We are pushing it into the limelight because we are forced to live a lie everyday from both liberals and conservatives that it doesn't exist at all and that it doesn't have any bearing on how we plan society and doll out welfare and managed immigration. This is a HUGE lie. This is the emperor with no clothes. The bell curve effect of IQ, even if it's flexible, shows there are significant differences between races especially as you get out to the edges and these desperately need to be taken into account when trying to create and perpetuate a prosperous society.

In fact studies showing it has flexibility would get you kicked out of most SJW circles because SJW's deny IQ in its entirety. How can you show in a study that it's flexible if there's no such thing as IQ in the first place?

The environmental factor of IQ also shows how important schooling is and how important it is for us to resegregate schools. A 73 IQ sub saharan african with the right schooling, nutrition and motivation might be able to able to crack the bare minimum of military acceptance: 83. But that child will hurt jewish, white and asian kids with 100 plus IQ.
Even accounting for flexibility of IQ, desegregation and forced diversity is a losing game for everyone INCLUDING sub saharans who would be miserable in homogenous white or jewish school with kids who are reading in kindergarten. (which is why jews are frequently putting their kids in private school). In fact jewish and white politicians both will put their kids in prestigious high quality private schools with similar IQ cohorts while voting for shitty desegregated public schools for the rest of us. It's a goddamn fraud.

Unfortunately many whites don't have the finances to put their kids into homogenous private school. You are only proving to us that importing all these low IQ blacks and hispanics is part of a long term plan to reduce white IQ (because whites are the most effected).

Send_nasty_stuff, Reddit 4 Comments [7/26/2018 11:58:35 AM]
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Quote# 139205

American4Truth:
If you "identity" as something that you are not, then you are mentally ill, Period!

swibily:
Doesn't it require a mental health professional to make a diagnosis like that?

Amos Moses:
nope........

swibily:
Really, because I think it does. Otherwise it's an opinion.

Amos Moses:
and that is just YOUR opinion ........ so NOPE ........

swibily:
No, it isn't my opinion that making a medical diagnosis requires someone with medical credentials, so NOPE right back at you.

Amos Moses:
BUT .... it is JUST YOUR OPINION that this is a MEDICAL DIAGNOSIS ...... and FYI ..... NO "medical credentials" are required ....... so NOPE .......... it is however a SPIRITUAL diagnosis ..... and YOU are not qualified to make it .......... YUP .........

swibily:
You are not qualified to give a spiritual nor a medical diagnosis. I'm not providing either, just saying that if someone makes such a pronouncement they better have medical proof to back it up.

Amos Moses:
"You are not qualified to give a spiritual nor a medical diagnosis."

and again ..... THAT IS JUST YOUR OPINION ......... so who cares .... YOU are not qualified to judge if it is SPIRITUALLY diagnosed correctly as you reject those things ....... and we do not REQUIRE YOUR PERMISSION to do so ..... so NOPE .......... whatta ya gonna do about it hot shot ......... you and your multiple SOCK ACCOUNTS ..... and all of your ~200 comments here ........... DIDDLY .........

swibily:
I'm not here to argue with you. The bottom line is you cannot call something a mental illness if you're not in an intellectual position to make such a diagnosis.

Amos Moses:
"The bottom line is you cannot call something a mental illness if you're not in an intellectual position to make such a diagnosis."
ROTFL AGAIN ......... ummm ... again .... YOU are not an AUTHORITY HERE ..... and it is JUST YOUR OPINION that it is a MEDICAL DIAGNOSIS ...... and despite your objections to it ..... YES ..... we certainly CAN ..... FYI ..... it is not a "medical diagnosis" here as this is not a medical setting ...... so BOO to you .... and as i said ..... whatta ya gonna do about it hot shot ......... you and your multiple SOCK ACCOUNTS ..... and all of your ~200 comments here ...... right ..... DIDDLY .........

swibily:
I’m not attempting to BE an authority. You are. You are the one calling everything a mental illness just because you want to call it that.

Amos Moses:
"I’m not attempting to BE an authority. You are." ..... ROTFL .... LIE ....
ummmm .... okay ..... NOPE ...... the one, the only and the FINAL AUTHORITY here is scripture ..... not MY OPINION ..... and NOT YOURS ............ when and IF you ever can prove anything you say or accuse others here arises to meet scripture ..... then maybe some of what you say may be proven true ...... but none of it has so far ..... as you reject God and scripture ........
"You are the one calling everything a mental illness just because you want to call it that."
more lies .........

swibily:
Why are you dragging in all this irrelevant mush? All I am saying is you aren’t a medical professional so you aren’t qualified to cite mental illness. Which is perfectly true. A religious person with an opinion is just that.

Amos Moses:
Okay where is YOUR evidence that i am not .... right .... you have none .... and .... YOU constantly try to assert yourself as authority here .... AS YOU JUST DID .... with your assertion about my education .... and you LIED as you did so .... so NOT "irrelevant mush" ..

swibily:
Where did you obtain your Ph.d. from?

Amos Moses:
so you understand that to ask that question is a DIRECT admission that you have no evidence and that you lied ..... so thnx for your admission of guilt ...... and that is also an admission you are again trying to assert YOUR authority as if you had any to demand it be proven one way or the other and that you have again admitted that you lied that YOU do not try to assert authority here ... again ..... thnx for your admission ......
and to answer your question ...... nunya ... as in none of your business .... and my question to you is ..... WHY do you think you get to ask a person to DOX themselves in a public forum ..... and if you think that is not a big deal ...... ANSWER YOUR OWN question and DOX yourself ............
FYI ..... you have yet to prove such documentation is a requirement for anything outside of a medical setting ...... and you have to prove that just because a person has an alphabet behind their name that they are competent to determine anything especially in the field of inquiry they profess to be "expert" ............ see ..... that is ALSO an authority issue ..... and YOU are again asserting that as authority .....

swibily:
It isn’t about me.
I’m not making scientific claims.
That would be YOU doing that.
Problem is, you have no qualifications.

Amos Moses:
you are not a man (or woman) under authority ...... and therefore you have no authority ....... "Problem is, you have no qualifications." ..... you are not a competent judge to make that assessment ......... AND THAT IS A CLAIM YOU MADE .......

swibily:
None of this is about me, it’s about you calling things mental illness because you disapprove of them and not because they are actually mental illness. Unless you’d care to tell me where you got your Ph.d. from.

Amos Moses:
again .... trying to get a person to DOX themselves ... so ... YOU FIRST .... but the fact is YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY to make any demand .... nor is your demand even worth considering as you have not PROVEN YOUR CLAIM that a FUD (Ph.D) is a requirement here or that it is a requirement OUTSIDE a medical setting ..... SO FIRST ...... PROVE YOUR CLAIM .........

swibily:
I do not require authority to request authority. I would not get on an airplane if I didn't know the pilot was qualified to fly the plane. I don't need authority to make such a request.

Amos Moses:
"I do not require authority to request authority."
sure ... request DENIED ........ you have no authority here .......... i do not grant you any authority ever and there is no one here able to grant it to you ..... the AUTHORITY here is scripture ... learn to use it and be under it ..... or take a hike .....
FYI .... i do not know what kind of an airplane you are referring to .... but if you get on a passenger jet ... and ask to see the pilots credentials .... i think the pilot would ask to see your credentials first i.e. your FAA credentials (AUTHORITY) .... and if you had none he or she would tell you to get off his plane ........... they are the captain ....... so nice bluff .....

swibily:
I don't have authority. I don't need it, and I am not using it. Understand that yet?
A patient doesn't need authority to request it of his doctor.
A passenger doesn't need authority to request it of his pilot.
A student doesn't need authority to request it of his teacher.
You are being requested for authority because you are diagnosing things as "mental illness" but you are not a doctor.

Amos Moses:
"A patient doesn't need authority to request it of his doctor.
A passenger doesn't need authority to request it of his pilot.
A student doesn't need authority to request it of his teacher."
you can try and assert that authority ... they might grant it .... we have NO authority to grant YOU authority to judge scripture ..... DENIED ....
"You are being requested for authority because you are diagnosing things as "mental illness" but you are not a doctor."....
you have no authority to make that assessment ...... you would have to have GREATER OR EQUAL AUTHORITY to do so .... if you do not hold at least equal authority YOU are not a competent judge .....SO ....
where is YOUR authority .......

swibily:
No one's asserting authority by asking a question. You are having a hard time with that one, aren't you?

Amos Moses:
YUP .... you are asserting a desire to judge it .... you are not a competent judge ........

Amos Moses, Christian News Network 12 Comments [7/26/2018 9:25:30 AM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 139202

Re: "Do you hate men?"

There was a post here recently about a guy posting to a Reddit about how he hated women, that he resented that they wouldn't date him, and when he found a woman playing on a videogame he was in, he would hurl misogynist and sexist insults at her until she quit the game.

Not a single person asked him why he hates women.

If I mention rape, DV, FGM, the pay gap, systemic oppression, anything at all, anything that is easily verified that men actually do to women and girls, not a single point is addressed by a man. Men are incapable of discussing factual reality regarding their chosen behavior. Their frustration at their own pitiful inability to argue a single point turns into BUT WHY YOU HATES MENS THO?

It's an emotional response based on intellectual limitation. Men can't think rationally or logically, and they can't speak arguments that they are unable to create. So they get frustrated and emote.

So yep. I don't really hate men, that takes too much energy. I dismiss them like I do a bug. They are just kind of a worthless waste, honestly. If they weren't violent and abusive, I might find their ignorance cute or endearing. But as they are so murderous, if they all dropped dead tomorrow, the biggest problem would be the stink.

I saved your comment to my save list because it's so profound.


We don't talk about the stupidity of men enough. Evidence points to their ignorance and the inability to deal with how massive it is being the root of their problem.

As women, we get defensive, as mothers, daughters, wives. I am married to one, he is cute and non violent, but he isn't overly plagued with intellect. And he knows it. He also knows that I am smarter than he is, but he isn't threatened by it. Maybe that is why he isn't violent, because he knows his limitations. But I am amazed at the reaction from women when I bring this up, it seems like they think that I am betraying men by acknowledging the reality. Men deny their stupidity, their violence, their supremacy, we need to confront it, not deny it for them out of some misplaced sense of loyalty.

You made a comment in another thread..

So much man bullshit is just about wearing us down until we just give up.


This also resonates deeply. I think women could change the world by simply enforcing their "Nos." Also how important it is as a warning flag about just how disturbed a man is by how much they push boundaries. It's a predator thing, if they can get you to give in, be worn down, then they know they have a malleable prey.


Sometimes we can't enforce the "no". And sometimes we just don't want to.

There was a discussion on here a while back, I don't remember the original topic, but it turned into a discussion between lesbian women and straight women, and about how men should be denied penatrative sex. A few of the hetero women were very clear that they love penatrative sex and would not be giving it up. The lesbian women were annoyed by that, understandably so. We all know that if women, as a class, denied men access to us in that way, a lot of their bullshit would stop immediately. But there are too many of us that are so man identified, and we can't even see it. So it results in women choosing men over women, and they see absolutely no problem with it.

And it's the same with male children. When we give birth to boys, we are creating oppressors. That's just a fact. But mothers of sons will go batshit because they feel like they are being judged and that they are raising super duper, extra special boys that will smash the patriarchy.

We are all potential prey, some of us more malleable than others. Whatever we can say "no" to, then we need to be saying it, in solidarity, with each other. Until we do that, we will be ruled by violence and stupidity.

XXisBornFemale, r/GenderCritical 7 Comments [7/26/2018 9:24:51 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 139200

Once I was blind, but now ic

(Chad 9: Blackops2cel heals bluepilled man)

PM_ME_ROASTBEEF, r/Braincels 3 Comments [7/26/2018 9:24:12 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139199

The decline of true femininity, and womanhood is because of the Marxist media, and the Commie agents that have been operating in the shadows. Filthy Jew mags like the Cosmopolitan are teaching women how to be whores. The Jewish controlled Hollywood propaganda machine has re-wired the brain. People want an overwhelming fulfillment of adventure. No longer do people want a quiet, and simple spiritual life. But rather one of adventure, action, and carnality. The female brain has been notched to the speed of the hare. The virtue of the tortoise is non-existent today.

Women want instant gratification. They don't want to be by the side of a developing male. They want the nice car, nice job, and well off man now. So that's why a lot of western whores like to date older men now. Not only are we competing against chads. But also against sugar daddies, and dykes who are taking our women. I think the media, and the fast paced lifestyle is contributing to the decline of morality, and making women into total sluts who like the drama, and the abuse from the chads.

We must find representation that will clean up this mess. Promote old fashoined ideas, and return us to the way things were in the beginning. We need a male dominated world. The feminist, communist, and Jews must be purged out of this land like the Jews of old from the promised land. These brood of vipers are ruining it for everyone. Just imagine a world were incels can find a woman, and procreate like jackrabbits. We would have all the cannon fodder to fight against the Jews, and commie cuckholds, and make America truly great again.

Now that females can compete with men in the workforce they can have all the commodity they want without a man. They can have their own place, car, provision ect ect... It used to be that a man provided these things through work. But now that the Jew has ruined our economy the 1950's way of living is gone. Now women don't need men. They just go to work, and provide for them-self. Women cannot handle it.. That is why they need to smoke weed, and take anti depressants / mood stabilizers. Feminism must be destroyed the American way depends on it. If we lose this war it will be the end of masculinity itself. Soon a Hillery Clinton, or Oprah Winfrey will get in office. It is only a matter of time now.

Edit: I am in total agreement with the OP. Capital Punishment for fornication absolutely. I would like to see a Monarchy develop, and have a King who would fulfill these laws, and bring about the true natural order. Women need to be lead. They are being lead by the wrong people. By the Jews, and left winged communist. They have planted false ideas into their head, and radicalized them into weapons of Marx.

Amerimutt, incels.me 4 Comments [7/26/2018 9:24:09 AM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 139197

My father is a janitor responsible for cleaning residential areas. At 7 a.m. on August 25, 2017, he was in an accident in his truck and sustained serious injuries. His legs were stuck in the truck and the bleeding wouldn't stop. He couldn't move. Emergency crews didn't get him to the hospital until 9:40 a.m. He lost so much blood that he was in a coma. When he came to after the doctors worked on him, they said he needed a blood transfusion immediately.

There were no blood supplies in the hospital. The blood did not arrive until 1:00 p.m. Because he lost so much blood, his internal organs started to shut down. The moment blood went in, it would come right out of the wounds in his legs. The doctors warned my family of my father’s condition and told us to be prepared for the worst. My mother, my sister, and I were all in shock and could not believe what was happening. My two aunts came and immediately told us to recite sincerely, “Falun Dafa is good. Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance is good.” They told us to ask for Master's protection.

When I was very young, everyone in my grandmother’s family practiced Falun Dafa. Although my mother hasn’t been very diligent in cultivation, she often shared with us wonderful things about Dafa. My two aunts also told us the truth about Dafa when they saw us in person. Because of this, my sister and I respect Dafa from the bottom of our hearts although we are not practitioners. We witnessed the miraculous effect it had on my grandmother, who is close to 90. She has been very healthy and not taken a single pill in the past over-20 years since she started practicing Dafa.

My sister and I immediately recited, “Falun Dafa is good. Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance is good.” My aunts and my mother also sent forth righteous thoughts next to my father. In the meantime, we agreed with the doctors’ decision to amputate my father's leg(s). At around 4:00 p.m., my father had to be transferred to another hospital for the operation. Doctors at that hospital also said that my father’s condition was not promising.

At around 6:00 p.m., the doctors recommended that the operation begin immediately. The complex surgery would take over five hours. I signed the paperwork with a heavy heart and sent everyone home to rest while my father was in the operating room. My sister, my brother-in-law, and I waited outside. At around 11:30 p.m., a doctor opened the operating room door and told us to see my father one last time as his heart had already stopped beating. While the doctors were working to resuscitate him again, my mother was sent for. She asked us to get our aunt there immediately.

When my aunt arrived, she reminded us to recite, “Falun Dafa is good. Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance is good.” My mother, sister, and I kept sending forth righteous thoughts. After 30 minutes, the doctors told us that my father’s condition had miraculously stabilized. We became confident and continued to recite, “Falun Dafa is good. Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance is good.”

On the third day, my father woke up. The doctors warned us that, due to the huge blood loss, my father’s organs and brain had suffered significant damage. However, all the tests he had after he woke up came back normal. My mother was afraid that my father might have lost his memory. It turned out that he could clearly remember everything regarding the accident. The doctors could not believe it. They kept saying that it was a miracle and that my father was very lucky. My family has been very happy. We know that Master gave my father another chance at life. We are so grateful to Master and Dafa.

My father also firmly believes in Dafa now. He listens to Master’s lectures every day and has completely recovered. We would like to extend our sincere gratitude to our revered Master!

Unknown author, Minghui 3 Comments [7/26/2018 9:22:25 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 139187

[Genocide fuel] 4 foot 7 Chad gets girl offering to date him.

(Clip from a TV show about an athlete with dwarfism who never had a girlfriend getting a date through a dating agency)

The girl is decent looking and 5 foot 4. A whole 8 inches taller than him

Face and skull really is the most important thing, you CANNOT be incel with a good looking face and large dimorphic skull

and if that's not enough girls are calling him hot in the comments. Inb4 someone says its virtue signalling, girls don't say 'He is HOT' as a virtue signal.

_incelinside, incels.me 11 Comments [7/26/2018 5:38:04 AM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139184

Chads don't get cancer

Has anyone noticed this? When does the high school Chad never die of cancer? Its always the incel that no one really knows.

Thereby I propose my hypothesis. The more truecel someone is, the more likely they will die of a serious illness. Its the same with freak accidents too. A few people from my school have died. Its always the incels, and its always in some final destination shit way.

Luck and illness is directly correlated with looks. The (((government))) is keeping this under wraps so you continue to wagecuck for Stacey and Tyrone Junior.

wayshegoes, incels.me 12 Comments [7/26/2018 5:36:41 AM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139182

(He's being serious, not a Poe sadly)

Frankly most of the world were indeed better off under British rule which was really quite benign. Take a look around now and see what happens to the countries that are now independent.

I read recenly that there are people in Hong Kong who want the British to return.

It's too tiresome to refute all the writer's statements about the "brutality of British rule". He blames us for slavery yet it was Britain who abolished slavery first!

Very lazy journalism indeed.

disgustedofTunWells, The Guardian 10 Comments [7/26/2018 5:35:55 AM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 139178

If the Bible were nothing more than a pile of trash, as your despising ignorance would say, then why with a world with a million writers are good books not as common as the idiots insulting the greatest book ever assembled? In this is the miracle. We feel no hallowed presences to anything other than the Bible.

Try it! Attempt to tell a story to mimic the liquid eloquence of such moral simplicity, and you will inevitably fail. Yet more advantages have you, such as advancements to writing technology, as computers with a spellchecker, and many other advantages, yet you and I and everyone writes as children compared to the best selling book of all time.

You are a fool to insult something written to superior fashion over the intellectual impediments hindering your understandings. I could say more but you're too far gone at this juncture to your life. The honest truth is, is that you've been subconsciously and consciously manipulated through a variety of outlets. Get some help. Start" thinking for yourself. Good luck.

Anonymous, Debate.org 15 Comments [7/26/2018 5:35:37 AM]
Fundie Index: 7
Submitted By: Denizen
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