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Quote# 139602

Out of Eden is a Hip-hop/ R&B/Gospel group of soul sisters who are actually sisters! Lisa Kimmey, Andrea Kimmey-Baca, and Danielle Kimmey. I think a more appropriate name for their group would be "OUT OF HELL." These women are imposters, exploiting the name of Jesus to make a fast buck. It is sad, and a clear sign of the apostate condition of America, when professed "Christians" act, dress, and sing just like the unsaved world. The idea that you can put improved lyrics to Satanic music, and then label it as "Christian" is wrong.

Also, look how these women are immodestly dressed. And who stands like that? The woman in the middle looks like she's having a problem or something. She looks like she needs a doctor. I'm not trying to be unkind, I am trying to make a good point—these so-called "Christian" women look and sing like heathens! The Bible, God's Word, states in no uncertain terms that we are to be separated from the Christ-rejecting world, "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? ... Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you" (2nd Corinthians 6:14,17).

Their songs have been used in many screen productions such as Eddie Murphy's "Dr. Doolittle," Christina Aguilera's Diary (a lesbian whore), and The Chris Rock Show. This is evidence enough of their worldly status. They also appeared on the primetime UPN show Moesha (starring Brandy) and have been featured in several major magazine features and cover stories. In the photo to the right, the two sisters on each end are sitting like tramps.

Is this how a Christian woman should sit, like dogs? Don't get mad at me, I have 2 dogs and that's how they sit. These girls are bad news, serving the Devil, and ought to be ashamed of themselves for posing in such a lewd and unladylike manner. It's not just marketing tactics—nudity and sexual advertising are demonic! Clearly, this album cover is sexually suggestive. It's disgusting in the name of morality!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 18 Comments [8/7/2018 1:23:17 PM]
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Quote# 139596


So...let's explore what you find so offensive Stranger...that I say that there is an invisible, superabundant, indestructible, dynamic energy behind the existence of the universe. That it is owned by Almighty God...in fact it is God and from it, all science, all stars and all life came into being. Now that is what the Holy Bible tells us as well and Jesus taught us how to harness it righteously...now where do I discredit Jesus or his father and where do I not offer great hope by revealing a science that Satan's henchmen would rather we didn't have?.

NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 5 Comments [8/7/2018 1:22:12 PM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 139548

Speaking at GAFCON's conference in Jerusalem, the British evangelist Rico Tice warned God would "take his power, his spirit and his gospel outside of the institution" unless Anglicans "submit to scripture and repent of our sin". He also revealed he stepped down from the Archbishops' Task Group for Evangelism after Bishop Paul Bayes affirmed same sex relationships

I got ordained in the Anglican church yet I’ve had this profound disappointment. It was very interesting yesterday to hear the New Zealand delegate Rev Behan talk about weeping and grieving over his church. I could really relate to that - I weep over the people who have turned their backs on the authority of scripture.

So to come here and see the largest collection of Anglicans for the last 50 years meet together, to have a Nigerian bishop rebuke us about our sin was so refreshing. As we sat there and were told around the world "these are the different issues you’re facing in terms of your idolatry". And to know that every [bishop] I meet will be affirming the authority of scripture – you suddenly start feeling secure. That’s what it is to be a family and be at home.

If the Anglican communion won’t [submit to scripture], the Lord will take his power, his spirit and his gospel outside of the institution and go elsewhere. I think the message here, with the vast numbers that are here is "listen guys, the spirit will depart the traditional Anglican church unless we submit to scripture and repent of our sin and call people to do that." It’s a great warning to be heeded.

I’m speaking as an evangelist, someone who has spent the last 30 years trying to win the lost. I’m here because I know there’s no power in evangelism unless you’re submitted to scripture.

While I was on the Archbishop Task Group’s for Evangelism – and I’ve been to see him in person on this – the Rev Bishop Paul Bayes of Liverpool was affirming same sex relationships, which is putting people on the road to destruction. I don’t know how you could submit to his leadership? I had to leave that committee.

It’s a different religion. Bishop Paul Bayes and I have a different religion and it’s around whether scripture is authoritative in terms of human sexuality.

I think it’s a great wickedness to tell people who are on the road to destruction that they’re not - to tell them they’re safe when it comes to God’s wrath when they’re not.

The road to destruction in Britain is defined by two things. Tolerance and permissiveness - you can do what you please, and you can think what you please. If we have church leaders who are putting people on that road to destruction it’s a salvation issue. That’s why we have to distance ourselves. And that’s why I stepped down from the Archbishops' commission, which was grievous. I wept about it. I was longing to serve and found it a great honour that Archbishop Welby appointed me to that. Then I was having to submit to the leadership of a man who is contrary to scripture. It was agony.

In a way I come to GAFCON partly grieving but also delighted to find a family that is Anglican and that I can trust to submit to the Lord Jesus and to Scripture.

There’s a loss of nerve in the Church because the culture is getting more and more intolerant of people who hold onto the uniqueness of Jesus and his high and holy standards. So what’s happening is clergy are going with congregations, all of whom have a same sex attracted nephew or grandson – suddenly these relationships are there where people emotionally want to try and change position on those things because they have someone they love who is same sex attracted.

This is where the leadership of the Living Out Christians, people like Vaughan Roberts and Sam Allberry has been so magnificent because they’re saying "we are same sex attracted and we’re saying please, celibacy is the way because this is an eternal issue". They are in the midst of that battle saying "we’re celibate because that’s the way of Christ". We’ve got the people in place and the arguments in place. The question is whether church leaders will say to their people "let’s hold the line on scripture".

Rico Tice, Premier 6 Comments [8/7/2018 1:20:48 PM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 139608

Firearms are one of the best hobby for an incel

Let me explain, firearms and firearm culture is almost exclusively male, even if you are ugly or deformed it does not matter as the other guys at the range/store don’t care how you look,(beyond you know not being literally covered in filth.). They just care about your guns/skill with said guns, so no need to worry about getting #metoo by some thot,

Second every gun you own makes no-gun normies reeee just a little bit more, they already don’t like us because we’re incels and now they also don’t like us for owning guns, guns that we can use to defend ourselves with,(even if that is not an ‘official’ reason to own a gun in your country.)

Third: there just a lot of fun, they evoke an almost ‘primal’ sensation/euphoria when using them, something that we incels rarely get to feel.

Fourth: if you’re going to Hero it makes it so much easier/ effective (no matter style of ‘hero’ your going to do,(I.e private or public/ large scale hero.))

jimotree, incels.me 13 Comments [8/7/2018 1:18:33 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139605

Meet one of the 5,000 Brits who become Muslims each year

No one knows why Louise converted to Islam. No one knows why 27% of converts to Islam in North America are white, or why three in four of these white converts are female. It seems logically inconsistent. Many of us, accustomed as we are to the liberties that our pluralistic society confers, find this phenomena difficult to comprehend. Baffling in fact. Why would Louise embrace a backward faith that regards her species as unclean and her gender subordinate? In the absence of definitive answers, we can only speculate.

Perhaps her nocturnal tours of the neighbourhood were less a mission to relieve her bowels than a spiritual odyssey that ultimately led to Allah. Perhaps under the light of a full moon she looked down upon her turd and saw the work of a Divine Creator. Perhaps her stealthy defecation on Mr. Davis’s front lawn engendered a sense of shame and disgust which made her question her permissive upbringing. Perhaps it was the very rigidity of Islam with its strict dos and don’ts that most attracted her.

Perhaps there is a more fundamental reason to account for her shocking conversion. A reason that while compelling, is too politically incendiary for any but the most suicidal among us to mention, never mind consider. Perhaps Louise found Islam enticing because she understood what feminists don’t. She realized that she is a pack animal, and that packs are hierarchical. There is a chain of command. There is the pack leader, and his followers. That understanding is built into her nature. She is hardwired to lead — or submit. And her psychological comfort is dependent on a clear understanding of where she stands on the pecking order, and what her role is in the group. For a pack animal, nothing is more stressful than uncertainty about his or her place in the hierarchy.

It was Louise’s misfortune to have been born and raised in an environment where pathological concepts like democracy and gender equality were thought to be desirable and viable. She was raised to believe that dinner table handouts were her entitlement, and that her over indulgent superiors were to be regarded as “partners”. She was even given cultural signals to the effect that she and her kind should assume leadership positions.

While she embraced these messages on a conscious level, she didn’t on a subconscious level, for they conflicted with her nature. Until her conversion, Louise was a very conflicted individual, and the inner turmoil was killing her. Islam offered her a way out. That is the raw truth of the matter.

When patriarchal Christianity succumbed to progressive secularism, when clerics with lisps and pink shirts took to the pulpit to preach the PC news rather than the Good News, the field was left wide open to Islam. Dogs and people, pack animals both, crave clarity and moral absolutes. They need a clear demarcation of good and evil, right and wrong, dos and don’ts. Plus a sense of purpose. If you don’t give a dog a job, he’ll find one. Or the devil will find it for him.

This unhappy conclusion is a bitter pill for progressives to swallow. It is hard to admit that for Louise, becoming a Muslim was a rational choice made to deal with existential problems that white female retrievers face in Western society.

In a nutshell, conversion to Islam was Louise’s way of coping with the stresses of modernity.


Tim Murray, Eurocanadian  6 Comments [8/7/2018 1:18:23 PM]
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Quote# 139533



Gratian, the man who founded Canon law placed the age of consent at 7, marriage at 12. His view on law affected the entirety of Europe and later America. The UK had an age of consent as 10 until 1875. It was considered absolutely normal and socio-economic reasons are part of it, which you attempt to contradict. Another part of it was the Church, Papal law didn't have an age of consent, only an age at which sanctity of marriage could be announced, and that was age 12. This was due to the belief that Mary was 12 or 13 when she gave birth to Jesus.

The mother of Henry the 7th was 9 at her first marriage, 12 when she gave birth to Henry (as part of her 2nd marriage).

Your point about the danger and lack of medical science is the opposite of what was going on. It was necessitated that girls had children as young as possible due to life expectancy and infant mortality rates, the younger you started the more likely you were to succeed in the long term. The majority of upper class children were born to mothers between 13 and 18, this being due to political pressures of producing heirs.

The idea that young mothers is a bad thing is a fairly recent moral construct maybe within the last 100-150 years, which is hilarious considering that precocious puberty is on the rise, we are trying to have children later and our bodies are adapting to have them earlier.

History completely disagrees with you, as far it is concerned young mothers were a good thing until we decided as a society that it wasn't.

Junpei, MMO Champion 9 Comments [8/7/2018 1:08:44 PM]
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Quote# 139486

Peter: Read the moon landing conspiracists. Or 9:11. You'd be convinced. The big hole in their and your argument is the utterly risible and totally unconvincing alternative they and you offer. But let's park that for now.

andHarry: Look:) All these frauds and blunders have been widely acknowledged and documented elsewhere. Read what Stephen Jay Gould had to say about the conning of the scientific community for years and years by the Piltdown Man fiasco. Bergman provides extensive footnotes for his sources, etc. You are living a life in denial, Peter:)

...

Peter: Get real and think the earth is 4000 years old and every species from the poles to the tropics including dinosaurs found their way to a boat in the Middle East and survived there together? Right

andHarry: 6000 years, and a single undivided land mass - Pangea, if you like. Hence no problem with access to the Ark. According to Genesis 10:25 and 1 Chronicles 1:19, the Earth was divided in Peleg's time. Also all creatures still followed man. I would argue that when Noah sent our the most intelligent creature on the Ark to chart the receding water we have the first rebellion in the animal kingdom while the home-seeking dove remained obedient; analogous to the present desertion of the gospel by the 'wise and learned'. The raven and it's kindred kind, jays, magpies, etc. with their birdbrains out-think our supposed ape relatives. Interesting.

andHarry, Premier 7 Comments [8/7/2018 1:06:40 PM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 139462

'Sorry, Harry. You quote ONE scientist and his study.'

I could quote many. There are plenty out there if you were interested in looking at both side of the question. I assume therefore that you are not familiar with Sanford's thesis.
That same sex acts are forbidden is not based on whether homosexuality is chosen or not, but that same sex acts represent a fall from the originally perfect state of the complementary union of a man and a woman, and that same sex practices are unhealthy. The answer is celibacy as it used to be for carriers of haemophilia; another of the many defects that flesh is heir to. The suggestion that they be blessed by a loving God of perfection is what brings me into the debate.

If I were restricted to one in-your-face topographical feature for my belief in, for instance, the Genesis Deluge account I would rest on the well-known but inexplicable fact, for some, that there are vast planation surfaces found at several levels, generally three; all over the Earth. If you google 'planation surfaces' you will get an explanation of how a planation surface is formed; an easily understandable explanation of the conditions necessary for the production of such a formation; but NOT three, or more, planed surfaces on escalating (or descending) levels. The surface of the earth can be planed by glaciation, but such action leaves behind features like lateral and terminal moraine, drumlins, etc. However, the surfaces which cause problems are those which have been 'planed', or eroded, by fast flowing rock-bearing water. Left behind, and strewn across the surface of this plain as testimony, are roundish rocks and boulders of varying sizes.
The account of a great universal Flood, or Deluge, which surged backwards and forwards across the face of the Earth, scouring the land, repeatedly eroding and depositing layers of sediment, and the jumbled remains of forests, plants and animals, is recorded in the hundreds upon hundreds of remarkably similar stories in diverse tribes; handed down from the survivors. This tumultuous flooding went on for days, weeks, months - an unimaginable scenario. Compared to this catastrophe the floods in the Tigris and elsewhere, leaving a bit of gunge, are mere splashes. The original, probably low-lying, equatorial land was completely submerged. The 'fountains of the deep' - great reservoirs of underground water, surged up, with cataclysmic earthquakes belching forth lava to produce the huge sheets of basalt which cover great expanses without break all over the Earth. At some stage the earth began to be pushed up in places out of the water. Such a push would be followed by great surges of rock-laden torrents which would evenly abrade some of the mountaintops and rocks at each new lowered sea-level, cutting, with equal ease, across both hard and soft layers; resulting in a planation surface. Since planation surfaces (or planed surfaces) are found throughout the world at roughly three levels, this would indicate more than three further massive upthrusts of the land, with concomitant abrasion, scouring and deposition, caused by the violently disturbed and surging waters. The scouring rocks, some of immense size, left scattered over these great planation surfaces bear witness to the catastrophe.
And again the most important question; do you have the indwelling Holy Spirit which will lead you into all truth?

andHarry, Premier 3 Comments [8/7/2018 12:59:47 PM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 139600

(The article is from November 2012; he was voted out of office in March 2014)

Texas judge in video beating is back at work

A judge, who was suspended after an online video showing him beating his teenage daughter went viral, was reinstated by the Texas Supreme Court this week.

Judge William Adams was back working Wednesday at Aransas County after his suspension was lifted by the state's high court, a court clerk said.

The state's Commission on Judicial Conduct earlier ruled that Adams would receive a public warning for the incident, which cleared the way for the suspension to be lifted.

The move to allow the judge back on the bench angered Adams' former wife and daughter.

"My first feeling is extreme sadness," said Hallie Adams, the former wife. "I feel sad for the public. I see the justice system is failing and justice review system is failing."

Hillary Adams, the judge's daughter, was also upset.

"I'm embarrassed to live in Texas," said the girl who was the buzz on the Internet last year after releasing the beating video.

Adams was suspended last year after the 2004 video went public. It showed him beating his then-16-year-old daughter because she downloaded online music and games.

The beating occurred when her father was punishing her for using the Internet "to acquire music and games that were unavailable for legal purchase at the time," Hillary Adams, wrote on the Internet posting. She said she released the video after being harassed by her father.

"It was the straw that broke the camel's back," she said last November. "It wasn't any huge happening or anything."

She said she told her father she had the video, "and he didn't seem to think anything of it, and basically dared me to post it."

The video posting said, "Judge William Adams is not fit to be anywhere near the law system if he can't even exercise fit judgment as a parent himself. Do not allow this man to ever be re-elected again. His 'judgment' is a giant farce. Signed, Hillary Adams, his daughter."

The 7 1/2-minute video is punctuated by cracks of the man's belt and the girl's screams and cries.

At one point, the man says to his near-hysterical daughter, "What happened to you, Hillary? Once you were an obedient, nice little girl. Now you lie, cheat and steal."

At another point, he yells at her, "You want to put some more computer games on? You want some more?"

William Adams has acknowledged that the man in the video was him.

As a judge, William Adams handles misdemeanor cases, including family-related and juvenile court issues.

William Adams, CNN 6 Comments [8/7/2018 8:16:05 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139598

College is Incel Hell

Any fellow incels in college or university?

For Normie’s and Chads, college is paradise. They go to parties and fuck slutty college whores on the daily.
Meanwhile, for for fuckers like me, college is Hell-on-Earth. Everyday I am surrounded by skimpy Stacy’s running around in tight leggings and booty shorts, but I know that all I will ever be able to do it look. Never touch.
My freshman year I was :bluepill: and believed I could get a fresh new start. I kept my door open, went out and socialized like a Normie fucktard, tried dressing and talking like Chads. It was mentally and physically exhausting.
I had hoped I would be able to finally lose my fucking virginity. I knew that if I didn’t lose it by the end of my freshman year, it was over. I’d go to parties to try and pick up drunk sluts, but I’m so ugly that even they didn’t want me. They’d rather go gangbang a group of chads in the back bedroom.
Anyway, after about 2 weeks of trying to make “friends”, they all agreed I was a “creep” and avoided me. To any incel who’s about to start college, you’re fucked.

LoliLoser, incels.me 11 Comments [8/7/2018 8:15:53 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139597


Your style reminds me of someone else Stranger. No hard feelings but he refused to grasp difficult scientific points like the one that if Jesus attracted millions of supporters then his science is repeatable if we use his data points and I have proven to myself, at least, that it still works in the dimension of resurrection, repair and everlasting life because attaching ourselves to his righteous science and God's indestructible energy does just that...regardless of who says otherwise.


NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 5 Comments [8/7/2018 8:15:50 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 139595

These black-robe fascists don’t run the military; the president does.

I’d prefer that Trump arrest this judge for treason and make him stand before a military tribunal on those charges. Barring that, ignore that judge.

(I can’t wait for FR’s hand-wringers and weenies to show up and tell us that ignoring an out-of-control judge would upset the propaganda media, and we can’t do that.)

sergeantdave, Free Republic 8 Comments [8/7/2018 6:13:53 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 139592

If this lying obnoxious specimen had actually left islam, she wouldn’t just be getting a 13-year ‘life’ vacation in one of Her Majesty’s hotels, she’d be under threat of a death sentence from her chums from the ‘Religion of Peace’.

We all know that. In any case we also know that islam is like malaria – once you’ve got the virus, you never shift it, especially for those born with it. Total elimination is the cost-effective answer for this kind of demographic environmental hazard, and permanent deportation to suitable habitat is the next best option.

Jayell, Jihadwatch 6 Comments [8/7/2018 6:13:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 139591

Agreed. Trudeau supports radical Islam, so he objects to Saudi's crown prince reigning in his crazies.

The new pro-Israel, anti-nuclear Iran, anti-MB face of Saudi versus the communist Canadian PM: that's what this is all about.

Praxeologue, Free Republic 3 Comments [8/7/2018 6:13:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 139588

Well there is a difference between the orientation and the action. The Catholic Church teaches something like LBGT people should be treated normally, but their actions relating to homosexuality are bad. Personally I think the actions should be criminal and genderbending completely banned.

Dragoon, The Apricity 7 Comments [8/7/2018 6:13:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 139587

I believe that many of the gays are not born that way. In fact, it is not proven at all genetically. I believe it happens around the age of puberty when boys and girls are more separated than ever before. When forming friendships, the boy that will turn out gay will end up being weak and feminine and having female friends. He will start to identify more with girls, yet may or may not display outward effeminate behavior. During puberty everything happens so fast as hormones as rushing and raging. This is where demonic forces come in and confuse people into same sex attraction.

When I was at school, I had very few friends male or female. I noticed at puberty I was attracted to girls immediately (and had been before). But I was worried I may be a gay, because I noticed other guys too. But once I made friends with boys my own age, all of the same sex desire went completely away. Then it dawned on me, I wasn't a gay. I was just longing for male friendship. This is what young men/boys need. Unfortunately, they don't have many people to talk to, and when they do, these days, they will most likely to be urged to "come out" as gay- embrace their "sexuality". When it was never real to start with. It's a combination of a melancholic/sensitive personality type, with isolation from same sex role models.

Richmondbread, The Apricity 11 Comments [8/7/2018 6:13:21 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 139581

How big for a dick halo ?

How big must one be to ascend via dick? Is bulge game legit ?

I’m doing PE going for like 8.5x7.25. 7.75x6.5 atm. I heard flaccid gains come first. Would be cool to walk around freeballing In sweats with a sick dick print.

First post btw... been lurking for maybe 2 or 3 months

SchrodingersDick, incels.me 14 Comments [8/7/2018 12:44:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 139579

The FBI said in internal emails that they would stop Trump and if he is elected, they have plans to oust him literally. Their aim was to upend a duly elected American president.

They allowed Hillary's dossier they knew was fake from Russians to spy on her opponent.

Another problem, they withheld information from judges to get FISA warrants which is illegal. And they used a dossier they knew was unverified (illegal) and salacious to use a fake reason to spy on him.

Ironically they used Russian lies And propaganda to do so.

Opposition research is fine...what is not fine is for the FBI to use it to help one candidate over another. Also look into the Ohr's and Fusion GPS.

It is so complicated, hard to address all the corruption in one email.

On top of it all, Rosenstein actually signed at least one of the warrants which makes him a witness and a part of the law breaking...so that is why they are hiding emails and information from us.

Then you have Clapper who actually told the press about this in order to hurt Trump. He set it up for Comey to tell Trump so it was the. Released to the public.

Rosenstein also wrote the letter to fire Comey of which Trump is being accused of interference. So Rosenstein is the acting attorney general while helping Mueller make his case against Trump for what he himself did.

Another problem, they may have started spying long before they are admitting it. Looks like they did. So they may hVe started even before getting warrants.

Also, they should have told the person running for president immediately. When they did tell him, he said get to the bottom of it and get rid of whomever is doing this.

Who was doing it? No one...it was all fabrication on the part of Hillary with Russian fake dossier that Comey admitted was not true, colluding with our own FBI.

It is even worse than this. So much they did.

Did you hear about Feinstein's driver who was also her Ofc manager.

She let him retire with a pension and how he is a huge profile character making Chinese propaganda speeches in SF AND ALL over the world.

He needs to be tried and convicted for treason.

And she knew and swept it under the rug and the FBI went along. She should be tried for aiding and abetting treason...which is treason in itself..

When the Obama IG found out about Clinton's classified info server, Feinstein bullied him and he dropped it. And when it was found out that Brennan was spying on foreign intelligence. Omitted, in which she is chairman, he denied it but was caught so had to admit it to senate Intel. She said oh well...we're not going to prosecute.

The corruption of obama's White House is mind boggling.

Sharona


Shar, Realabortiondebate 6 Comments [8/7/2018 12:44:14 AM]
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Quote# 139578

The left does not want peace with fellow Americans. They want to censor us. They want to fundamentally change America, that is destroy our constitutional republic, destroy individual liberty and replace it with socialism, or more likely outright Marxism. There is no compromise between freedom and totalitarianism.


lel817, Realabortiondebate 10 Comments [8/7/2018 12:43:27 AM]
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Quote# 139577

(Commenting on an article posted entitled "Kathy Griffin Tells Portland Police to ‘F--- Off!"):

I hope she gets gang raped by muslims and the police don't respond.

lel817, Realabortiondebate 6 Comments [8/7/2018 12:43:15 AM]
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Quote# 139571


Judge grants convicted pedophile ex-husband sole custody of his daughter

Feel free to question why this Judge is still in the job
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti....html#comments
http://kfor.com/2013/06/25/convicted...-old-daughter/
http://www.klewtv.com/news/national/...?tab=video&c=y

Ms Coomer pointed out that because Elizondo is a registered sex offender, he will be unable to carry out many parental duties
'He can`t take her to Chuck E. Cheese. He can`t take her to a park,' she said. 'He can`t go to her school. He`s not allowed in school.'

The thought of this child being stuck in the house with him is truly frightening. But it does beg the question how bad is the mother?? the article sort of eludes to the reason why the judge awarded the father sole custody but their HAS TO BE more to the story.to the reason why the judge awarded the father sole custody but their HAS TO BE more to the story.


(sliske)

Well if you look at it logically then any gay brother you have or even any straight sister mum or dad could be frightening too. I'm a straight guy who likes older women, i don't think my mum feels in danger of me suddenly raping her or even hinting that i fancy her for multiple reasons

1. I don't
2. Pedophile / Bisexual / Homosexual / Whateversexual doesn't equal automatic incest condoning.

Not to be a pedophile sympathizer but at the end of the day they're just people who are attracted to a certain thing purely because of the way their body developed. They shouldn't be treated as incestious just for that reason alone.

Edit: of course if you do the actual act of having sex with a minor its still a pretty horrible thing, but being a pedophile in itself shouldn't automatically make you a lesser human being in regards to your children.
There's a pretty big difference there. He was convicted of molesting a 6 year old, he specifically targeted a helpless victim. If your gay brother was raping men, you bet your ass you'd be afraid of him.

I wouldn't. I don't assume rapist = incest condoning
What i'm saying is just because he molested someone, doesn't mean his standards are completely gone. For example i rape Cheryl Cole, that doesn't mean i'm going to go and rape an old man too.
And I think it's a far cry more likely that a person who molests a child is likely to do so again even if the child is related to them.

I wasn't wieghing it i was just using it as an example in itself. But thats not the point. The guy on the previous page said it better than i could. I'm terrible at explaining my point. In a nut shell i don't believe that being a child molester makes you have no bounderies. I believe even a rapist has standards or even a child molester has standards. I don't believe he would do that to his family


(blackblade)
Even criminals have rights, people.

Yeah, he's done some terrible shit. That doesn't give you the right to shit on him, nor deny him his family. If he was dangerous, he'd still be in jail.

This is simply a trick by the media to generate hits. Unless he's had a history of molesting his own children, it's a non-issue.

(puck)
I don't see the problem. Pedophile does not mean he would be prone to a relationship with his own daughter





sliske , blackblade,puck, MMO Champion 2 Comments [8/7/2018 12:40:45 AM]
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Quote# 139570

[ on tranqulility bay and abusive boot camps ]



This is an interesting thread as it touches many doper’s right where they live on a variety of different levels as both parents and children, past and present.

It is evident to me that many of the posters going through the "anything but boot camp" arguments, even those who deal with behavioral problems professionally, have never been grill to grill, day in and day out, with a truly, dangerously out of control of control teenager as an on site parent in the middle of the whirlwind that is destroying their family.

The question at this point, where conventional discipline and behavioral control strategies have lost traction, is obviously "What are you going to do?” While Tranquility Bay specifically may not best the best solution, there are real world situations where therapy, talking it out, grounding and double secret probation and the host of other non-physically coercive strategies are simply not going to work.

My social cohort is mostly middle and middle-upper class professionals. I have personally observed several "out of control teen" scenarios in these households of varying degrees but most involve an admixture of drugs, theft, serious property damage, some violence and an absolute cast iron determination on the part of the teen that "I will do what I want, when I want and no one is gonna be the boss of me or had better get in my way", and this is generally after thousands and thousands of therapy dollars.

Now... in about half these situations the parents inter-personal cluelessness and abject lack of parenting skills or inclination to enforce discipline fairly and effectively are mostly to blame for the bad behavior, and I'd like to send these idiot parents off to boot camp myself in those scenarios because the kids in these situations might be turned around with intelligent parenting. In the other half of the “out of control kid “scenarios the child, despite the best efforts of concerned parents is seemingly, for lack a of better description, an incipient sociopath and is simply determined that nothing matters more than their immediate desires and directly or subversively and will stop at almost nothing to achieve these ends.

Until you have a child and a situation like this, and quite frankly very few posters in this thread have given any indication that they have even the slightest real world grasp of the realities of dealing with a person like this, do not be quick to judge the parent who tries to save their child by sending them to a boot camp. Of the children sent to boot camp(s) I am familiar with 3 out of 5 returned substantially better adjusted, it had little effect on the 4th, and the 5th was suffering from organic mental problems that could not be effectively addressed by behavior mod therapies.

Boot camps are obviously not the answer for everyone, but for some dangerous and critical situations, if parents have the means to do so, it's better than the alternative of letting the streets and the legal system matriculate their kids into a behaviorially dysfunctional adulthood.

astro, The Straight Dope 3 Comments [8/7/2018 12:40:42 AM]
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Quote# 139568


Tranquility Bay
Inside, 250 foreign children are locked up. Almost all are American, but though kept prisoner, they were not sent here by a court of law. Their parents paid to have them kidnapped and flown here against their will, to be incarcerated for up to three years, sometimes even longer. They will not be released until they are judged to be respectful, polite and obedient enough to rejoin their families.
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When most children first arrive they find it difficult to believe that they have no alternative but to submit. In shock, frightened and angry, many simply refuse to obey. This is when they discover the alternative. Guards take them (if necessary by force) to a small bare room and make them (again by force if necessary) lie flat on their face, arms by their sides, on the tiled floor. Watched by a guard, they must remain lying face down, forbidden to speak or move a muscle except for 10 minutes every hour, when they may sit up and stretch before resuming the position. Modest meals are brought to them, and at night they sleep on the floor of the corridor outside under electric light and the gaze of a guard. At dawn they resume the position.


Well, if these kids would just listen to their parents, and not do stupid things, they wouldn't get sent here in the first place. Of course, quite a few of these kids probably came from homes in which the parents didn't do a proper job of discipline on their children (proper discipline can be done without spanking or physical punishment, though it helps) . On the other hand, sometimes perfectly good parents have children who are just total screw-ups. In my family, I have done very well, in College on full scholarships, with no problems with the law beyond minor traffic tickets. My other siblings are doing quite well too, except for my younger sister. She completely disregards authority, has broken numerious laws, dropped out of high school, ect. Frankly she seems like the perfect person to send to this kind of camp. Too bad my parents don't have enough money to do so/She just turned 18 and couldn't be forced to go.

As long as there is no real physical abuse and the kids get a decent diet, this place seems fine to me. Parents should be able to do whatever they want to their children, beyond physical/sexual/severe pychological abuse, or total neglect - not feeding them enough.

DreadCthulhu, The Straight Dope 7 Comments [8/7/2018 12:40:35 AM]
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Quote# 139458

Mario is now a goddamn cross dresser.



Good lord, what has the world come to!? Hell, suddenly the more kiddy content of Sonic no longer bothers me. Least I ain’t got to stomach this shit!:P

Is it true!? Has Nintendo fallen in line with the rest of the industry in it’s push for the agenda that shall go unnamed!?

Call up Hugh Hefner, you a gay boy bunny!

Heru Sankofa, Conflicting Views 12 Comments [8/6/2018 3:53:04 PM]
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Submitted By: Sammettik

Quote# 139436

That's a false argument. The state holds a monopoly on violence. If we collectively, and legally decide to end the life of someone who has violated society's rules, then it is by definition moral. I don't do moral equivalence, sorry, so being accused of being an indecent person doesn't really phase me. There are enemies of society and the state within and without, what they have in common is that they need to die.

jakefeatherstone, AlternateHistory 11 Comments [8/6/2018 12:08:15 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie
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