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Quote# 140331

Hardly a day goes by without a huge amount of negative media coverage surrounding President Trump. Yet many evangelicals are continuing to back the President. The informal spokesperson for those evangelicals who advise the Trump administration, Rev Johnnie Moore explains why

On my regular visits to Europe, I am often asked about the support of American evangelicals for President Donald Trump. I certainly understand the curiosity given Mr Trump's well-documented reputation prior to his presidency, his unfiltered stream-of-consciousness approach to social media, and his unconventional foreign policy - to put it mildly.

Yet, many American evangelicals are so close to the administration that the President and First Lady invited them to the equivalent of a state dinner last week “celebrating evangelical leadership.” At a certain point during the evening an open microphone prompted nearly two dozen of the dinner’s 100 guests to thank the administration.

Here are some of the reasons why evangelicals said they are grateful for the policies of the Trump administration, even when they are sometimes offended by the President's sensibilities:

1. He prioritises religious freedom
The Obama administration held court over the most significant threats to America's sacrosanct first amendment as have been witnessed in modern, American history. The most egregious example was when the administration attempted to require religious Catholics, including nuns, to provide contraception against their sincerely held religious beliefs.

When the Trump administration began their term, there were more than 50 active lawsuits against the Department of Justice for similar incidences. The Trump administration prioritised religious freedom in domestic and foreign policy by immediately auditing the entire federal government to identify incidences where administration policies violated the first amendment, and they corrected them, including by settling dozens of the active, aforementioned courts cases.

On the international front, the administration began reorienting humanitarian programs to assist persecuted religious minorities which had been overlooked in countries like Iraq by United Nations’ programs, and just a few months ago the State Department hosted a global symposium on international religious freedom that brought together senior government officials from more than 70 countries.

An entire book could be written on the way the Trump administration supports religious freedom, but one of the more recent examples is their use of severe sanctions against Turkey in response to their ongoing and unjust imprisonment of an American pastor, Andrew Brunson.

2. He protects the unborn
Without question, the Trump administration is more obviously pro-life than any previous administration since abortion became legal in the United States, and at a time when public opinion has moved rapidly against abortion, even among Democrats despite the party leaderships’ near-total unwillingness to accommodate pro-life Democrats.

The head of the Susan B. Anthony List, a noted pro-life organisation, didn't initially support candidate Trump but has since come to deem him "the most Pro-life president in American history" because of numerous policies he has introduced.

During the 2016 campaign, many evangelicals were deeply moved by hearing Trump's own story as to why he changed his opinion on abortion and one of the most profound moments of the election was in the final presidential debate when Secretary Clinton startlingly voiced her ongoing support for late-term abortion, despite the grotesque practice being banned by both the US Congress and the United States Supreme Court. Trump has fulfilled his promise to greatly strengthen pro-life policies.

3. He's addressing judicial over-reach
In many ways, the 2016 election was an election not made by Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump but by the sudden death of the reliably conservative Supreme Court Justice, Antonin Scalia, putting the long conservative balance of the court in jeopardy.

President Trump's successful appointment of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court as Scalia's replacement represented the fulfillment of his single most important promise to the evangelicals who put him in office.

This week, his second nominee to the Supreme Court, Brett Kavanaugh, will begin his confirmation process and he is equally regarded as a trusted conservative, whose confirmation could guarantee a conservative Supreme Court for at least a generation. This is another fulfilled promise.

4. He's advancing criminal justice reform
While not an issue he campaigned in support of, President Trump has become a surprising advocate for criminal justice reform in the United States, a policy concern long advocated for by evangelicals whose passion for prisoners finds its roots in the New Testament itself.

The President’s son-in-law and senior advisor, Jared Kushner, came into the White House with his own unrelenting passion for prison reform and has found in the evangelical community a natural and effective ally.

Because of it all, the United States’ Congress is on the verge of passing the first significant reform to America’s widely criticised prison system in over 30 years. The President’s evolution on the issue is largely considered the result of his evangelical advisors as has been the case with the President’s evolution on certain immigration issues, such as providing his support for undocumented immigrants who were brought to the United States by their parents when they were children.

5. He's addressing the opioid epidemic
The abuse of opioids in the United States is the nation's most significant drug problem, directly or indirectly affecting millions of Americans. The administration has forcefully taken on this addiction crisis, even when it meant taking substantial measures against large American companies despite opposition from the President's own party.

Evangelical pastors, who walk through addiction with members of their congregations, have been on the frontline of this developing crisis for years. The Trump administration has acted with the full force of the federal government, and it has already saved many lives.

6. He's strengthening the family
The administration's widely supported tax cuts, which were passed by the Republican-controlled Congress, under the direction of the President, included the doubling of the standard tax credit given to parents for their children, and the administration is now well on its way to finally introducing to American life a meaningful program to support "paid family leave."

The United States is far behind Europe in these types of social programs, but the Trump administration appears to have found an approach that would be considered fiscally responsible by Republicans even while meeting a long-term policy priority of Democrats.

7. The economy is thriving
The administration's economic policies - from deregulation to workforce development - have resulted in nearly 3 million Americans being taken off of government assisted food programs, over 5 trillion dollars being added the United States' economy, and the lowest ever unemployment numbers among African Americans, Hispanic Americans, young people, and women.

The overall unemployment number is at its lowest since 1969. In 2017, Americans were also more generous than ever before donating at least $410 billion to charity, the highest number on record.

Taking our seat at the table
Those are some of the reasons why President Trump enjoys the highest approval rating any Republican president has ever received from the Republican Party.

Obviously, these highlights only represent part of an always-imperfect picture, but we mustn't deceive ourselves into thinking there aren't logical reasons to support this unconventional president.

Earlier this year, when liberal American Bishop Michael Curry decided to parlay the gift of newfound fame into a candlelit march on the White House just two days after he was entrusted with preaching at the Royal Wedding, I was asked by CNN what I thought of the opinions of Christians like Curry who so ardently oppose the Trump administration.

Here was my answer, "many of them are my friends, too, and we happen to mainly agree on the challenges facing our country and our world. We just sometimes disagree on the solutions."

One might disagree with the merits of the administration’s policies or the by-product of their approach, but one must acknowledge that many reasonable people support the administration’s policies on the basis of facts, not ideology.

As for evangelicals, I’ve personally seen the constructive work of many in our community precisely because we’ve taken our seat at the table, very often serving as the reasonable center building bridges between polarised extremes.

Rev. Johnnie Moore is an author, religious freedom advocate and the founder of The KAIROS Company, one of the world’s leading, boutique public relations consultancies. Moore is often referred to as the informal spokesperson for those evangelicals who advise the Trump administration.

Johnnie Moore, Premier 13 Comments [9/7/2018 2:14:22 PM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 140328

There is nothing that the mavens of perversion and promiscuity will not try to pervert. In fact, the more innocent something may be perceived to be the more greedily will the perverts seek to corrupt it. Simply, defiled people live to defile whatever has somehow escaped them to this point, or to make it worse.

They do that as fans and not just a makers of popular entertainments. I see the fruits of these fruits all the time on Pinterest. At some point in the past, for example, I clicked on a Voltron pin — because Volton was kind of a cool cartoon back in the day — and now I’m at the point that I feel I have to click that I do not want to see this or that pin, every last one no matter what it’s like, and more than that I report many of them as offensive as well as saying I don’t want to see anything posted by certain people because of rampant homosexual content ... and still Pinterest keeps suggesting them for me.

Same thing to a lesser degree has happened with pins of other cartoons I may have clicked on a pin at some point because it was funny, or cute, or just a trip down memory lane. Here is wisdom: while the Left want the censor folks on the Right for the sin of just disagreeing with them when it comes to pushing their crap I don’t see much leeway, at least on Pinterest, of you opting out.

Rurudyne, Free Republic 8 Comments [9/7/2018 2:07:56 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 140325

The desire to dominate and humilliate tall and wide males burns withing me with the force of a thousands suns. Seriously. I have grown a special hatred for tall and wide males. I would love to somehow achieve incredible physical strength and make a big male bend on their knees before me. I would love to humble them down. Love to humilliate them in the department they are most confident (physicality).

Oh and I would love to acidface or just put a bullet on Chad, but thats another matter. My hatred for other unfairly genetically gifted males grows every hour i'm alive.

Zyros, incels.me 11 Comments [9/7/2018 2:06:54 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 140324

That's the thing. Ever since my Chad roommate fucked a girl that I was interested in (at the time), a girl that I literally introduced to him... I've secretly fucking hated him and been warning ALL my female visitors about him. About how he's fake-nice, manipulative, lying, incestuous, dirty, etc...

He'll probably cheat on his gf and fuck her if she's hot. How can I warn my new roommate about him without sounding like a paranoid jealous loser?

And LebaneseCel, I do plan on approaching her obviously, she's going to be living with me.

whatsthedeal12, incels.me 8 Comments [9/7/2018 2:06:29 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 140317

Mate, I fully understand being attracted to minors, until itdoesn't surpass the boundaries of 2d world, but giving advice on 'meeting' irl lolis or actually doing that is not okay in my opinion. Hope you understand my point.

You’re entitled to your opinion. Of course I comprehend your point, because yours is the opinion of the vast majority of society. You think I haven’t heard that before? Yours is a voice lost in a near-infinite sea of society which claims I’m wrong, evil, even foolish.

Where we differ is in our interpretation of the objective morality—the metaphysical truth that exists outside human consciousness. The pertinent objective morality is this: It’s wrong to sexually abuse young people. You interpret the moral line of abuse as “meeting or actually doing that.” Well, to me, that’s patently vague. My idea of the moral line is “coercing a young person into behavior which could hurt them physically or emotionally now or in the future.” 

Of course, I can’t guarantee that a person I advise won’t abuse someone by the standard I defined above. Nor can your state guarantee that you won’t kill a vanload of people when you drive your car. But like your driving instructor, I can provide guidelines, moral and technical training, and only give licensure (the keys to attracting lolis, if you will) to those I deem deserving. I only advise individuals whom I’ve vetted. And in this way, I make the world a little bit safer for lolis.

– Jax

Lil-loli-playhouse4, Tumblr 3 Comments [9/7/2018 2:02:53 PM]
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Quote# 140316

whats the lowest age you would go with another girl

Well I’ve answered this before on my previous blog. I’ve tried to find a repost of that reply, but I can’t seem to. I’ll attempt to recapitulate my original answer as closely as possible.

You might be expecting me to give you a number. Well I don’t judge this issue on age. Age is like a low-resolution measurement, and it doesn’t actually tell us anything about a person’s sexual suitability. To determine this trait, one should use a higher-resolution measure. I consider a girl’s sexual maturity just such a trait.

So what makes a girl sexually mature? Well first she must be self-aware. That is, she must have divorced her identity from the family unit and have established her own sense of self, her own preferences, and early opinions. Second, she must have entered puberty. This is a pretty straightforward component of sexual maturity, if you ask me. And third, she must have begun sexual exploration. That is, intentional, willful touching of her erogenous zones.

But I should point out that this standard of sexual maturity doesn’t easily translate to a universal age—that’s why I think consent laws are fraught with problems. Some girls don’t reach self-awareness until their 20s or early 30s! Some girls enter puberty as young as 7, or even earlier. And some girls simply never masturbate, owing to some curiosity within their mental programming. But if a girl is in possession of these three qualities, then she’s ready to engage in some degree of physical affection.

– Jax

Lil-loli-playhouse4, Tumblr 5 Comments [9/7/2018 2:02:04 PM]
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Quote# 140304

We live in a wicked time of unjust critics! Don't be a hypocrite. You're just as big a sinner as anyone else (James 2:10). It takes two years for a baby to learn to talk, and 70 years to learn to shut up!!! We've made a God out of professional sports, entertainment and education in this crazy generation. My friend, when you are laying in a hospital bed dying, and you're about to enter into eternity, sports won't help you! Entertainment won't help you when you are dying! You're going to need God!!! 2nd Corinthians 6:2b, “...behold, now is the day of salvation.” We are living in a time of universal deceit! Revelation 12:9 forewarned that the Devil would deceive “THE WHOLE WORLD”! Take heed that you be not deceived! Luke 21:8, “And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.” Be careful who you decide to follow on YouTube, because there are MANY nuts and false prophets!

This ungodly generation scrutinizes Bible-preachers and looks for every mistake, sin and fault they can find to kill, steal and destroy God's men. Ungodly people assume rumors to be facts. Ungodly people never give the benefit of the doubt to a Christian, they condemn them. Granted, there are plenty of ungodly men in the pulpits, frauds, shysters, con-men; but ungodly people reject the goood preachers with the bad ones. God sees every man's heart and will judge all men according to their works, and He won't except anyone's lame excuses in eternity. People won't be able to blame the failures of others as justification for their not getting saved and serving God!!! If you die in your sins without Jesus as your personal Savior, you alone will bear the damnation!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 15 Comments [9/7/2018 1:53:22 PM]
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Quote# 140296

Parents charged after son dies during month of fasting to get 'blessing from God'

REEDSBURG, WI (WKOW/CNN) – The parents of a 15-year-old boy face felony child neglect charges after their son died of starvation while the family was fasting in an alleged religious practice.

The teenager's father, 49-year-old Kehinde Omosebi, appeared in court Tuesday, where he was officially charged with two counts of neglecting a child. His wife, 48-year-old Titilayo Omosebi, did not appear in court but has been arrested.

A criminal complaint filed Tuesday claims Kehinde Omosebi failed to provide food for his 15-year-old and 11-year-old sons. The father went to the police station Monday to report the 15-year-old, Ayanfe Omosebi, had died.

Police officers reporting to the family’s home described the 15-year-old's body as extremely emaciated. They say there was no food or eating utensils in the home.

The 11-year-old boy was in poor health when police arrived. He was emaciated and had a hard time walking and talking, police say. The criminal complaint states he had to be carried out of his bedroom because he was unable to walk on his own.

Doctors say the boy will have to stay in the hospital for an extended time as he is treated and returns to eating regularly.

Authorities say there was no electricity in the family home, and the only furniture they found were four metal chairs in the living room, all facing one another.

There were also padlocks placed on the doors on the inside of the house in such a way "someone on the inside would be confined to the home and unable to leave," according to court records.

Kehinde Omosebi claimed the family was part of a religious group affiliated with Cornerstone Reformation Ministries. Police say they can find no records supporting the claim.

The 49-year-old told police the family had begun fasting July 17 in order to receive a "blessing from God" to move to Atlanta.

According to the criminal complaint, the 15-year-old died Aug. 31, the day Kehinde Omosebi said the fasting was supposed to end. The family reportedly prayed for two days per their religious beliefs before the father reported his son’s death.

The father allegedly told police the family had fasted with the children before but "not for this long."

Officers say they found a handwritten note addressed to county lawyers from the 11-year-old which included the statements, "The hunger is too much. Please help me now so I may eat. I can’t continue in such a life with no food."

The letter referenced it had been five days since he and his family had eaten anything.

Officers had contact with all four family members May 21 when they were putting religious pamphlets on cars in a grocery store parking lot, according to Reedsburg Police Chief Timothy Becker.

Becker says the children appeared in good health at the time.

Kehinde and Titilayo Omosebi, WIS 2 Comments [9/7/2018 1:43:39 PM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 140299


Do NOT confuse the Lost atheists and their foul habits
with True Born Again Christian saints. Dig deep and you
will discover, "religiously speaking", the only people in
Christendom true that are your friends ARE these Lost
atheist souls. The True Christians are totally OPPOSED
to ALL aspects of your religion. NOW, ask yourselves
this critical, key Question : "How come the hardcore
Lost, intelligensia of the atheists in Christendom have
NO problem with the religion of islam??" The True
Answer will shake you to the Core: The SAME devil that
is responsible for their Atheist SIN, IS THE VERY same
DEVIL that moslems unwittingly worship and pray to
every single day of the week and "IT" hates all people,
and has masqueraded as "allah" for over 14 centuries.


Elijah Saatori, Constellation 7 22 Comments [9/6/2018 2:14:12 AM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 140298

(Submitter's note: In morbid irony, a massive storm hit the region on the same day they did the caning and damaged nearly 600 houses.)

Public caning will ‘invite Allah’s blessings’ to Terengganu, PAS cleric claims

KUALA LUMPUR, Sept 4 ? PAS MP Datuk Khairuddin Aman Razali has lauded Terengganu’s public caning sentence against two women yesterday, claiming the Shariah punishment would “invite Allah’s blessings” to the state and its people.

The Muslim cleric suggested that the Joint Action Group for Gender Equality and Malaysian Bar should demand the implementation of Shariah caning in civil cases, and the amendment of the Penal Code to be Shariah-compliant instead if they were rational and humane.

“What is more important is the method of Shariah caning will invite Allah’s blessings to the people and the state, like it was convicted in the Prophet’s hadith.

“There is no spiritual soul in the implementation of civil criminal punishments,” the Kuala Nerus MP said in a statement.

He also claimed that the sentencing proved that the Shariah judiciary is ready and able to implement Shariah criminal code enacted in the state laws.

Despite his claim, the sentencing yesterday was carried out by a Prisons Department officer from the Kajang Prison in Selangor, and not by an officer of the state of Terengganu or the Shariah courts.

Another Prisons Department officer from Pengkalan Chepa, Kelantan was also present, but did not mete out the punishment.

Yesterday, two women found guilty for attempting to have lesbian sex were caned six times in public at the Terengganu Syariah Court, as around 100 people watched the punishment.

The punishment received worldwide condemnation, with federal minister in charge of religious affairs Datuk Mujahid Yusof Rawa saying public presence during the sentencing should be reviewed.

Women’s rights groups, including Justice for Sisters and Sisters in Islam also claimed the sentencing was unlawful, as the caning punishment can only be done against prisoners, but the duo were not imprisoned.

Khairuddin Aman Razali, Malay Mail  6 Comments [9/6/2018 2:13:47 AM]
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Submitted By: Bedhead

Quote# 140295

(=On "How Justin Welby helped win the war on Wonga"=)

Martin: Justin Welby seems very keen on this sort of thing, he doesn't seem nearly as keen as preaching the gospel and holiness. Indeed he seems to accept sin in his fellow clerics with equanimity. Unless that sin is paedophilia of course.
Incidentally I'm still awaiting an answer as to why Premiers directors list their business credentials and not their spiritual ones. And where is their statement of faith?

Peter: As this article makes clear this issue is far more in line with the gospel and indeed "the bible" than many of the issues you post about on here.

Martin: You have no idea what the gospel is. It certainly isn't about Wonga. The gospel is the free gift that God offers, not what we do.

Peter: There are at least as many verses about lending with interest (let alone high interest) as there are about homosexuality, an issue you have considered important enough to opine about repeatedly on here.

Martin: I hadn't noticed any usurers coming on here and claiming it was their nature and denying the Bible had anything critical to say about them.

Peter: Really? No one works in banking who posts on here? I think you'd find them commenting if you used the language against them that you routinely use against gay people.
How is one issue mentioned in the bible not worth the archbishop talking about or premier reporting despite it being prevalent and another worth hours of rhetoric from you?

Martin: So point me to a banker claiming special rights and demanding the baking of a cake on here.

Martin, Premier 7 Comments [9/5/2018 4:04:06 PM]
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Submitted By: I

Quote# 140294

The implications of the final confirmed discovery of
the Actual Ark used by Noah and his family, 1656 years
after the Creation of Adam, are so far reaching, as to
dwarf all other archaeological discoveries ever made.
Hard proof of the Great Flood is not confined only
to the Discovery of the remains of the Actual Ark.

The following additional Keys seal The Fact for all time :

1) : Vast "dinosaur" graveyards, fossilised rapidly in
tangled and contorted masses consistent with sudden
death by drowning, including fish fossilised giving birth.

2) : Huge beds of fossilised giant clams found in the peak
regions of mountain ranges, having died suddenly, yet in
the "closed position". Clam shells open in death. The
closed fossils, also so high up, reveal the clams were
suddenly buried after being caught up in vast
subterranean uplifting water currents in order to
arrive at their final lofty resting places.

3) : Confirmed 20th century evidence proves that
fossils form very quickly, when the conditions are
right, namely carbon being replaced by minerals
to form stone replicas of the original lifeforms.
"Being turned into stone" is fossilisation, the
deluged fate of a multitude of Adamic era
creatures during the 12 month flood period.
The creatures that were not buried rotted into
oblivion, or were eaten by water habitat predators
that did not need to be on board the Ark and
survived the titanic mountains of erosion debris
that gradually settled and dried, concrete-style,
into the layers being excavated today - indeed.

4) : The so called geologic column is a myth
and does not exist in actual reality, because
mammalian skeletons have consistently been
found in layers below "dinosaurs". Those that
have been found in the uppermost layers, including
birds were simply smarter, and survived the
longest by climbing higher, or kept flying until they
finally died by drowning and were likewise buried.

5) : "Stone" fossils cannot be carbon dated, and, as
such are never carbon dated. The fossils are dated
by the layers they are found in : Index Fossils.
Guess how the layers are dated? By the Index
Fossils. Guess how the time related indices have
occurred? A 19th century German Atheist made
it all up to get rid of God out of the Big Picture.
This is clearly proved when the layers are studied,
because there are no water erosion channels,
such as rivers or suchlike; the layers are stacked
like pancakes, with the heavier, lower dwelling,
often dumber creatures at the bottom - gravity.

6) : A well known character of water and gravel
physics, has proved that moving water, thick
with deposits, sand, gravel and dead creatures
of different sizes will automatically arrange
into layers with heavier cadavers at the bottom
and lighter ones at the top. The same is true,
on average, when God's concrete layers are
studied, containing skeletal Flood evidence.

7) : The shapes of the continents are mapped by
Ocean water levels only. Differences in height or
depth create entirely new maps. This alone
destroys a Pangea theory. The continents have
not been drifting apart for millions of years;
they are delineated by the Ocean level only.
The Ocean is the vast residue of The Flood;
before The Flood there were Seas, plural.

8) : Take a look at these pictures of fossilised
trees piercing multiple layers. The same thing
occurred at Spirit Lake when Mount St Helens
exploded. Trees floating in the lake upended
by the heavier root or branch masses sank
straight down vertically and pierced the soft
sediment layers at the bottom of Spirit Lake.
Thousands of such fossilised trees have
been discovered at huge depths piercing
multiple layers of rock. These layers are
simply hardened mud and flood debris
seams : Noah's "Concrete" Evidence.

9) : The Grand Canyon itself is self evident proof
of a gargantuan flood of water. It is impossible
for that vast Canyon to have been cut by the
tiny Colorado River. If those layers were really
evidence of vast epochs of time related deposits,
where are the dried out creeks in each layer?
What, it didn't rain whilst the layers were formed?
It is obvious those layers went down in one
creative event, The Flood : Not over eons of time.

If you have been conned and deceived into thinking
the layers and the fossils are evidence of Evolution,
get angry - you have been outsmarted by Satan.
It's ALL clever fiction. The Great Flood In Noah's
Day caused the entire fossil record, GLOBALLY.
If you continue believing this and denying God
and The Holy Bible Historical Record The
Devil OWNS you and you WILL go to Hell.

Elijah Saatori, Constellation 7 11 Comments [9/5/2018 4:03:30 PM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 140293

There are people that would like us to believe that all
things and life exist today by chance because of
evolution. This is impossible and merely fiction.

21st Century people often forget the sub-atomic
structure of matter, with orbiting particles around
a "centre", akin to the structures in a single cell
with a heart, a nucleus, mirrored in the heavens
above in star systems with planets orbiting
our sun and allegedly likewise activity around
stars, and in spiral galaxies - ORBITING !!!
The obvious parallels seen in the microcosm
within also exist in the macrocosm without,
in the heavens above - The Known Universe.

"Universe" can translate as "Single Spoken Sentence";
whereby one of the older 'Word' languages, Latin,
purified into English, and 'turned' phonetically, (with
a deeper double meaning upon spiritual consideration),
reflects The Genesis Of God's Wondrous Creation;
whereby ALL was Originally Spoken into Being.
The Word is The Lord JESUS CHRIST, and The
Word Became Flesh in The Blessed Virgin Mary.

The Apostate theory of evolution links man to
beasts, whereby modern, atheist man, has
been programmed by Satan to be beast-like.
Evolution theory can only be supported in the
realm of mild adaptation to environmental changes,
and this is by God's Perfect Design within species.

Evolution theory teaches that all matter & life and
therefore the entirety of existence is an accident.

Elijah Saatori, Constellation 7 10 Comments [9/5/2018 4:03:24 PM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 140292

Some denominations, such as the Seventh Day
Adventists, teach that hell is not a real place, just a
bad state to be in. Also, many people try to mitigate
hell as being here on earth, again a "state".

Some even teach that hell is simply the grave.
None of these descriptions are true. Hell is a very
real place, where evil, sin soaked souls go when they
die denying the Salvation offered by JESUS Christ.
There is no water in Hell. It is a prison where a new
body is bestowed upon the inhabitants, a body for
suffering in damnation. It is a place of fire a very
long way from Heaven and the next step on from
Hell is The Lake Of Fire, where lost souls are banished
to in the Second Death after the Day Of Judgment.

Being Saved is all about avoiding
Hell by Faith in the Atonement
on The Cross of Christ.

It is clear that from the centre of this earth liquid
fire pours forth. This gives us some idea of
of hell beneath. To escape being sent down
there, look up to Heaven and Believe in
JESUS Christ for Redemption - Amen.

Elijaah Saatori, Constellation 7 14 Comments [9/5/2018 4:03:12 PM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 140290

Age of consent is 1) a statist/legal framework, with all of the faults that entails that is 2) transparently premised on the denial of agency and autonomy to those designated as minors, which plays into 3) the positioning of the state and the nuclear family as the proper and necessary guardians of children.

The fact that age of consent has been so normalized as *the* thing to rally around in opposition to csa is terrifying tbh.

The specter of pedophilia is so central to homo/transphobic and transmisogynist myths. It's so central to the maintainence of the nuclear family and forced divisions between generations. The stakes involved in these questions go so far beyond whether people should (be allowed to) have ~relationships~ / otherwise be intimate when there's a large age difference. The pedophile is one of the central images of the #deviant we need the state to protect us from. People should be way more wary of mobilizing that ready made image.

But more than that, it's such a conservative and authoritarian position to say that people can't make decisions about their body / their relationships / their lives until they're 18. There are obviously anarchist alternatives to saying that the answer to minors sometimes being drawn into abusive relationships is to ban relationships with age differences and rally around adult authority.

People could, idk, intensify their attacks on the authoritarian structures of the family and the state and civilization that all help directly facilitate abuse and render minors more alienated and dependent on adults and thus more susceptible to abuse. They could reject ageist models that (rightfully) discredit them to minors and do more to display and pass on possibilities of what anarchist relationships can look like. They could engage in any number of strategies that align with youth liberation and actual anarchist anti-abuse frameworks.

Or I guess people can just copy the conservative position when shit like Milo's comments come out and rally around the legal denial of agency to minors.

#csa #abuse #youth liberation #age of consent

post-woman, Tumblr 7 Comments [9/5/2018 3:08:34 PM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 140289

Rarely can you ever find a legitimate explanation of National Socialism, without it being colored by heavy handed propaganda. I showed this video to a normie friend, whose not especially political and this video blew their mind. They had never even considered that National Socialism wasnt just some cartoonishly evil dictatorship

Rockwell's Pipe, Youtube 7 Comments [9/5/2018 3:05:50 PM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 140284

[Bolding added.]

PORTLAND, Ore. – A local non-profit food cart in Southwest Portland say they have been forced to close due to alleged harassment and threats coming from protesters across the street at Occupy ICE.

The Happy Camper is run by Scott and Julie Hakes. They use the food cart to raise money for their non-profit organization, Operation Off The Grid, which helps the homeless around Portland.

“It's our passion due to the fact that Julie and I were both homeless in our past,” said Scott. “We had always said that if we ever get to the point where we could give back, we would.”

The stand is across the street from the Portland U.S. Immigration, Customs and Enforcement (ICE) facility, where protesters are holding a weeks-long demonstration and calling for the abolishment of ICE.

As the occupation enters its sixth week, Hakes says enough is enough.

It started several weeks ago when Hakes says protesters were yelling at his daughter. Hakes provided KATU News with video showing someone from the camp across the street yelling at his daughter with a megaphone.

“She’s laughing at the immigration laws that have f****d over families,” said the unidentified protester.

In the video, Hakes daughter says, “Do you hear them? They think I’m laughing at them. So now they are targeting us now.”

“Boom - there it went. We were on the number one hit list from that point on,” said Hakes.

Since then, Hakes says protesters have harassed his customers. Business went down 80 percent.

“We were down to making $50 a day. I think there was one day we made $25,” said Hakes.

Hakes says protesters threatened to burn down his cart on multiple occasions. He says they threatened his daughter and her boyfriend.

“If they catch her outside the cart they are going to hurt her. They are constantly saying they are going to hurt her. They're constantly cussing at her and screaming at her,” said Hakes. “She finally had enough. She called me up on the phone, crying. I said ‘Breanna, shut the doors, we're done.’”

Antonio Zamora, who says he is a co-founder of the occupation, told KATU News off camera that individual actions do not speak for the group. He said if someone was harassing or threatening the cart, that is not something they condone and it goes against their code of conduct.

Hakes said he went to talk to the protesters three times, but it never helped.

“They're not rational individuals,” he said.

Hakes said they called police multiple times to report the harassment and threats.

A Portland Police Spokesperson confirmed they have at least one report of threats, along with video to go with it. Because it is the weekend, police say they were not able to do a full search of the system for other reports.

Occupy ICE protestor, KATU News 8 Comments [9/5/2018 7:09:19 AM]
Fundie Index: 8

Quote# 140282

Guest Verified:
Yep, intentionally targeting black families like the racists they are. Margaret Sanger eugenics.

Read it again. It's a group of, by, and for black women.

Amos Moses:
and they are decieved ..........


Amos Moses:
no not w-h-a-t-e-v-e-r ...... d-e-c-i-e-v-e-d ......

Whoever told you it was spelled “decieved” has deceived you.

Amos Moses, Christian News Network 13 Comments [9/5/2018 7:07:38 AM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 140280

How “woke” are you?

Level 1:
– Nadzees are evil, Democracy is good.
– Jews are Holocaust survivors.
– Christianity is for idiots.

Level 2:
– Nazis were misled by an anti-semitic demagogue.
– The Holocaust MAY be false.
– Christianity is ‘okay’.

Level 3:
– Germans were fighting against Zionists.
– The Holocaust is false, Zionism is evil.
– Christianity is good.

Level 4:
– White Nationalism is good.
– Jews are evil.
– Christianity is a White religion.

Level 5:
– National Socialism is good.
– America is evil.
– Christianity has been corrupted by Jews.

Level 6:
– National Socialism is the only solution.
– All nations are evil.
– Christianity has always been a Jewish Psy-op.

Level 7:
– White segregation is the only solution.
– Modernity is evil.
– Anti-Christian Paganism is good.

Level 8:
– There are no political solutions.
– Civilization is evil.
– Blood and Soil is the only true religion.

Level 9:
– Non-white exterminationism is the only solution.
– Most Whites are not true Whites.
– All Whites are spiritually flawed.

Level 10:
– 10% of Whites are true humans, and must survive.
– 90% of Whites are defective humans, of which 50% must die (males).
– 100% of non-Whites are sub-humans, and all must die.

Personally I’m a level 9, verging on level 10.
I’ve met some level 4’s, and only a few level 5’s.
The leap from 5 to 6 is astronomical due to the Xtian malware rejection.
Feels lonely sometimes.

Mauricio, The West's Darkest Hour 16 Comments [9/4/2018 7:00:09 PM]
Fundie Index: 14

Quote# 140279

A) You ruined your dad's funeral. B) Bitter, vicious family. C) America was NOT great under Obama. Capitalism under attack. Misery & malaise 4 middle class. U invited Obama 2 funeral. Proving your dad was globalist, socialist sell-out. #DISGRACE

Wayne Allyn Root, Twitter 7 Comments [9/4/2018 6:57:58 PM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 140278

Today's Laugh 9-4-18

Caption: Let the indoctrination begin: start of kindergarten 2018
Little girl: Trump is a bad man. Republicans are mean. I could be a boy if I wanna. 2 + 2 = five!

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 14 Comments [9/4/2018 6:57:13 PM]
Fundie Index: 7
Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 140277

(commenting on story "Billboard by ‘Reproductive Justice’ Group Defends Abortion as ‘Self-Care’ as if Day at the Spa")
(link to story) https://christiannews.net/2018/09/03/billboard-by-reproductive-justice-group-defends-abortion-as-self-care-as-if-day-at-the-spa/

Guest Verified:
Yep, intentionally targeting black families like the racists they are. Margaret Sanger eugenics.

Read it again. It's a group of, by, and for black women.

Guest Verified:
Read it again. Other women of colour have made the same observation I have. The group is run by 3 black women who are figureheads. The actual marches, demonstrations, etc, are attended by liberal white women - you know, like Margaret Sanger.

From their website:
"The Afiya Center (TAC) was established in response to the increasing disparities between HIV incidences worldwide and the extraordinary prevalence of HIV among Black women and girls in Texas. TAC is unique in that it is the only Reproductive Justice (RJ) organization in North Texas founded and directed by Black women. Our mission is to serve Black women and girls by transforming their relationship with their sexual and reproductive health through addressing the consequences of reproduction oppression."
Always so gracious when you're wrong. You don't have to double down every single time.

Guest Verified:
You err again. Yes, go to their website. They are run by 3 women who are figureheads. Go to press releases of actual marches and see who is marching - 1-3 black women, and a host of liberal white women. Anyone can claim anything. The reality is something far different.

Why should we be interested in your conspiracy theory take on it? I can find nothing online that says anything along the lines of what you're suggesting. I saw ONE photo with two white women front and center and every other woman in the photo was black. I saw other photos with mixed black and white, as well as mixed men and women.

James Blue (to Guest Verified):
Just to clarify, you are saying that this is run by white people and the blacks who "founded' it are just powerless pawns?
You are saying this is a Milli Vanilli situation?

Guest Verified, Christian News Network 6 Comments [9/4/2018 6:56:59 PM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 140269

KUALA TERENGGANU, Terengganu: Two Malaysian women were caned Monday (Sep 3) for having lesbian sex in violation of strict Islamic laws, despite an outcry from activists at the "cruel and unjust" punishment.

The case has sparked widespread condemnation and focused attention on what rights groups say is a deteriorating climate for the gay community in the Muslim-majority country.

Campaigners said it was the first time that women in Malaysia have been caned for violating a sharia regulation which forbids same-sex relations.

The country operates a dual-track legal system. Islamic courts can handle religious and family matters for Muslim citizens, as well as cases such as adultery.

The women, aged 22 and 32, were arrested in April by Islamic enforcement officers after they were found in a car in a public square in the northern state of Terengganu, one of the country's most conservative areas.

The pair, whose identities have not been revealed, pleaded guilty last month to breaking Islamic laws and were sentenced to be whipped and fined 3,300 ringgit (US$800).

They were caned at the Sharia High Court in the state capital Kuala Terengganu.

A judge read out their sentence just before 10am (0300 GMT) and then officials meted out the punishment using thin canes in front of a packed courtroom, according to a journalist in the court.


Court official Wan Abdul Malik Wan Sidek defended the punishment, saying it was not as tough as caning carried out for numerous crimes under Malaysia's civil law.

Caning under Islamic law is carried out with a relatively thin cane on subjects who are fully clothed, and is more about humiliation than causing pain.

Kuala Terengganu Sharia High Court and Wan Abdul Malik Wan Sidek, Channel NewsAsia 12 Comments [9/4/2018 3:00:35 AM]
Fundie Index: 9
Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 140267

I don't agree. All the wickedness that's turning America into a dysfunctional Sodom (liberal activist judges, abortion, homosexual marriage, legalization of drugs, etc, etc, etc) is coming from the democrat party. The most back-slidden RINO republican is still a 100 times better than a liberal democrat.

At the moment, we're winning ... inch by inch. But one can still lose the game if they quit at the 10 yard line. I still say the key to a Christian victory that glorifies GOD is for 100% of Christians to show up in November 2018, 2020, 2022, 2024... and vote democrats out of office. Persistence wears down resistance.

Mary Waterton, Christian News Network 11 Comments [9/4/2018 2:33:27 AM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: Bob J

Quote# 140266

I've had this conversation a thousand times. There is no likely version where you believe because you have placed your faith in science and what your senses tell you. That is your God given right in this life.

I was confronted with the same information and believed God’s word and in the Lord Jesus Christ and called on him. I was born again as promised. God works in my heart. I can't impart to you my faith nor what I have experienced.

They are not threats, they are promises. I'm looking forward to that day. The Jews certainly will be.

Now Satan and every one who had rejected will see the coming of Christ as a threat, and I can certainly understand why you would. If they were just my threats you could laugh and pity me, but they are not mine, they are promises the Almighty made in his word. Go on confident in your science, but I beg you to consider the what if the Bible is true? I believe it. I know Jesus Christ will grant me eternal life one day.

Just remember, you made your choice. As long as you have breath, you could change your mind, but when Jesus comes or you die, your decision is your decision. Just be man enough to appreciate the consequences.

Michael Pedigo, Quora 9 Comments [9/4/2018 2:32:37 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Denizen
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