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Quote# 143175

My top 3 blackpills, ranked

#1 The bald pill

The worst of all pills. It contains the age pill, but on STEROIDS, making a 20 year old with an NW4 hairline look about 45. You will always see yourself as some sickly freak if you're losing your hair

#2 Manlet pill

All of society shits on you and treats you like garbage. In the professional world, it basically memes "never give me a decent position".

#3 Age pill

Completely isolated in the west if you're out of college and you're not chad.

mylifeistrash, incels.co 13 Comments [4/8/2019 8:07:41 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 143174

Morality is flawed and a cope...normies are correct

Normies estimate your value mainly based on your LMS and consider personality afterwards.

Morality has very little value for the most part. As long as you arent extremely antisocial LMS > all.

The world has always been about value and not morality. Today average male's worth has decreased considerably and pussy is inflated.

FaceandHFD, incels.co 6 Comments [4/8/2019 8:07:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 143163

The UK is already a member of the WTO, a founder member no less (as are at least all EU15 member states). An WTO member’s tariff schedules are its own concern, unless another WTO can successfully challenge that those tariffs are discriminatory. The WTO tariffs published by the U.K. government are either the same as those as the EU (i.e. very high in the case of beef and dairy imports) or lower (0% for car parts, for example, but the EU rate of 10% for finished car imports).

It’s not clear exactly why a WTO member should wish to challenge the UK’s tariff schedule, not least because it is politically obvious that the UK is on a mission to reduce its tariffs via free trade deals with other WTO members. The WTO combats protectionism, not free trade.

As for your comment about the Irish border, the provisional plan laid out by the UK government is to Northern Ireland into a giant free trade port for the time being, which is something which has several precedents around the world (e.g. Shenzhen). This may well be challenged by another WTO grouping (i.e. the EU), but there are two safeguards for the UK. First of all WTO rules permit local tariff exemptions on national security grounds (and EU propaganda over the past 2 years has done its best to depict Ireland as a war zone about to erupt). Second of all, the UK is co-signatory to a bilateral international Treaty (the 1998 Good Friday Agreement), the spirit of which safeguards an invisible border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. International Treaties have the same weight as international trade laws, which means there would be 10 fruitful years of work for international lawyers to rule whether the GFA or WTO rules take precedence. By the time they rule in 2030 the Republic of Ireland will have been ejected from the EU anyway.

“The UK is already a member of the WTO”
If you read the list of countries _not_ being a member of the WTO, you’ll notice that I did _not_ list the UK. The UK is a member of the WTO but it does not have a WTO schedule.

The idea of NI as a separate WTO geographical area was floated by the EU while there was debate about a border in the Irish Sea. As you yourself mention, there is ample precedent for this solution, e.g. Hong Kong.

Whether the UK can uphold a national security claim exemption is far from certain. So far only one country has successfully argued a national security case. Ukraine vs. Russia, where the WTO sided with Russia.

The US rejected the UK proposed schedule on the same grounds as Argentina did, they wanted easier access for their beef exports. Do you think they’ll just give up the advantage of the lack of an approved schedule grants them?

As you state, it will take years for the legal wheels to turn, there can, however, be very little doubt that the ruling will not be in favor of the UK.

Is that the kind of behavior we can expect for the UK from now on? Flaunting of international laws and treaties because by the time the judges rule the ruling will be irrelevant?

God riddance, buccaneers and pirates of the worst kind.

It’s probably pointless debating with emotional and Hans Christian Anderson-like Anglophobes like you, but here goes. The UK has published its tariff schedule, and the USA and Argentina are free to dispute these at leisure. By the time their WTO lawyers report back the UK will have secured free trade deals with both those countries anyway (call free trade ‘piracy’ if that makes you feel warm inside).

As for the Irish border, there will be a solution. The EU will enforce a surveillance regime close to Republic’s border with Northern Ireland, at ports and airports in the Republic of Ireland, and at ports of entry in the EU26 if necessary. In other words, the EU will cut the Republic of Ireland out of the EU. It’s your arrogant gamble that backfired, so enjoy,

I see you have both wet imperialistic dreams and the capability of building straw man arguments.

A straw man is a form of argument and an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent’s argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be “attacking a straw man.”

My piracy argument was based on you proposing to knowingly violate international treaties simply because the legal wheels turn slowly. The stuff about free trade is a straw man, and what is worst, you know it.

Your FTA’s with the US and Mercosur (or Argentina specifically) is pie in the sky dreams. You cannot at this stage know what is possible and what isn’t.

Even TM, BJ, JRM et. al. have conceded that as of today the technology for safekeeping a border simply isn’t there. Do you by chance have some wonder technology nobody else has heard of or is it simply you failing to realize the obvious?

As for the UK forcing Ireland to leave the EU and signing up as a vassal state of the UK. Good luck with that. The best I can describe that as the UK trying to build the Empire v2.0

The EU, not the UK, will force the Republic of Ireland out of the EU. The USA and Argentina will want free trade deals with the UK because of its huge foodstuffs market. And using WTO trade articles in order to safeguard the spirit of the 1998 Good Friday Agreement is not violating international Treaties (I’ll let the EU do that).

Shall we leave things at that? You are very boring.

Steuersklav Erei, Politico.eu 5 Comments [4/8/2019 8:05:43 AM]
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Quote# 143171

Twelve Questions to Ask Before You Watch ‘Game of Thrones’

1. Am I Recrucifying Christ?

Christ died to purify his people. It is an absolute travesty of the cross to treat it as though Jesus died only to forgive us for the sin of watching nudity, and not to purify us for the power not to watch it.

He has blood-bought power in his cross. He died to make us pure. He “gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession” (Titus 2:14). If we choose to endorse or embrace or enjoy or pursue impurity, we take a spear and ram it into Jesus’s side every time we do. He suffered to set us free from impurity.

2. Does It Express or Advance My Holiness?
In the Bible, from beginning to end, there is a radical call for holiness — holiness of mind and heart and life. “As he who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct” (1 Peter 1:15). Or 2 Corinthians 7:1, “Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement of body and spirit, bringing holiness to completion in the fear of God.” Nudity in movies and photos is not holy and does not advance our holiness. It is unholy and impure.

3. When Will I Tear Out My Eye, If Not Now?
Jesus said, “Everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away” (Matthew 5:28–29). Seeing naked women — or seeing naked men — causes a man or woman to sin with their minds and their desires, and often with their bodies. If Jesus told us to guard our hearts by gouging out our eyes to prevent lust, how much more would he say, “Don’t watch it!”

4. Is It Not Satisfying to Think on What Is Honorable?
Life in Christ is not mainly the avoidance of evil, but mainly the passionate pursuit of good. Remember Philippians 4:8, “whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things.”

My life is not a constrained life. It is a free life. “For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another” (Galatians 5:13).

5. Am I Longing to See God?
I want to see and know God as fully as possible in this life and the next. Watching nudity is a huge hindrance to that pursuit. “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God” (Matthew 5:8). The defilement of the mind and heart by watching nudity dulls the heart’s ability to see and enjoy God. I dare anyone to watch nudity and turn straight to God and give him thanks and enjoy him more because of what you just experienced.

6. Do I Care About the Souls of the Nudes?
God calls women to “adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control” (1 Timothy 2:9). When we pursue or receive or embrace nudity in our entertainment, we are implicitly endorsing the sin of the women who sell themselves to this way and are, therefore, uncaring about their souls. They disobey 1 Timothy 2:9, and we say that’s okay.

7. Would I Be Glad If My Daughter Played This Role?
Most Christians are hypocrites in watching nudity because, on the one hand, they say by their watching that this is okay, and, on the other hand, they know deep down they would not want their daughter or their wife or their girlfriend to be playing this role. That is hypocrisy.

8. Am I Assuming Nudity Can Be Faked?
Nudity is not like murder and violence on the screen. Violence on a screen is make-believe; nobody really gets killed. But nudity is not make-believe. These actresses are really naked in front of the camera, doing exactly what the director says to do with their legs and their hands and their breasts. And they are naked in front of millions of people to see.

9. Am I Compromising the Beauty of Sex?
Sexual relations is a beautiful thing. God created it and pronounced it good (1 Timothy 4:3). But it is not a spectator sport. It is a holy joy that is sacred in its secure place of tender love. Men and women who want to be watched in their nudity are in the category with exhibitionists who pull down their pants at the top of escalators.

10. Am I Assuming Nudity Is Necessary for Good Art?
There is no great film or television series that needs nudity to add to its greatness. No. There isn’t. There are creative ways to be true to reality without turning sex into a spectator’s sport and without putting actors and actresses in morally compromised situations on the set.

It is not artistic integrity that is driving nudity on the screen. Underneath all of this is male sexual appetite driving this business, and following from that is peer pressure in the industry and the desire for ratings that sell. It is not art that puts nudity in film; it’s the appeal of prurience. It sells.

11. Am I Craving Acceptance?
Christians do not watch nudity with a view to maximizing holiness. That is not what keeps them coming back to the shows. They know deep down that these television shows or these movies are shot through with the commendation and exaltation of attitudes and actions that are utterly out of step with death to self and out of step with the exaltation of Christ.

No, what keeps those Christians coming back is the fear that if they take Christ at his word and make holiness as serious as I am saying it is, they would have to stop seeing so many television shows and so many movies, and they would be viewed as freakish. And that today is the worst evil of all. To be seen as freakish is a much greater evil than to be unholy.

12. Am I Free from Doubt?
There is one biblical guideline that makes life very simple: “But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin” (Romans 14:32). My paraphrase: If you doubt, don’t. That would alter the viewing habits of millions and, oh, how sweetly they would sleep with their conscience.

So, I say it again. Join me in the pursuit of the kind of purity that sees God, and knows the fullness of joy in his presence and the everlasting pleasure at his right hand.

John Piper, Desiring God 19 Comments [4/8/2019 4:52:59 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 143166

movie Black Panther is breaking massive records at the box office. The black community feels that they are finally represented. But is there more at play? Why all of the sudden now does Hollywood want to promote black strength? Most of us aren't asking these questions. Black Panther is a movie serving witchcraft and the occult to the black community as being normal. Most of us don't realize it because we"re so caught up with our blackness, we put it before our God. Our blackness is an idol and it prevents us from seeing things clearly.

Truthunedited, Youtube 12 Comments [4/8/2019 4:49:34 AM]
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Submitted By: FSM

Quote# 143164

Headline: "Alex Jones lawyer: If you want INFOWARS host silenced, you're scarier than he is..."

(link goes here: https://www.courant.com/opinion/op-ed/hc-op-norm-pattis-alex-jones-0406-20190405-howpjy3tq5eqhcvttscjbcawhq-story.html)


Caption: "The two biggest things that led to the creation of our nation are the two biggest things Democrats want to get rid of." Image shows a gun and a Bible.

Lady Checkmate:
I don't support Jones' attacks against Michelle Obama, but I support his right to operate his community as he sees fit. No one has a right to tell him how to operate his community nor what he may say in his community. If they don't like his messages, articles, OPs, graphics, etc., then they should visit a community they like. No one is forcing them to visit his community. If they choose to visit his community, violate the rules of his community and are removed, then that's not censorship...that's to be expected going in. They know this (just like we do) and are only there to stalk, harass, and try to get him removed. but (LOL), he doesn't seem like the type to fold to weak cry-bullies. I respect that.

Caption: "We are with you Alex Jones".

Girl says in one frame, "Hi! I'm a liberal, and I'm soooo tolerant! I would never EVER judge someone or hate them for their religion/race/politics/STUFF." In second frame same girl says, "OMGOSH. You Christian Conservative Republican people are SO racist, homophobic and ignorant!! I wish you'd all come to your senses!! GEEZE!"

Photo of Alex Jones with the quote, "What I want to say is this...I want to say this out in the open...I support the Jewish state of Israel...they have been on that land...that is their land."

Amos Moses/Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 15 Comments [4/8/2019 4:48:53 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 143161

Homeopathic Proving Of Plutonium

Pluto, son of Uranus,(Chronos), was eaten by his own father before being spewed out from the darkness of his parent's belly. The God Pluto, worshipped by the Romans, rules in the depths - where the souls of the dead are trapped. This myth powerfully embodies a connection with deep and heavy ancestral roots. A central theme of Plutonium is a deep feeling of suffering originating from one's forefathers, like a punishment echoing down the generations. Hence its affinity with DNA, bone marrow, and very serious pathologies such as Cancers, Leukaemia, Radiation, AIDS, Thyroid problems and deep mental pathologies. Heaviness, fatigue and burdened responsibility show up in the Proving, alongside lightness and floating - confirming its up / down axis, and similarities with other remedies such as Helium and Hydrogen.
Plutonium is, of course, a remedy for our times - where nuclear arms proliferation runs amok alongside our toxic environment, made ever more so as nuclear reactors spew out their 24,000-plus years of indestructible waste into it.
This very thorough proving will give you an insight into the element, planet, mythology, astrology and themes of Plutonium. There is also a look at some successful cases - together with radioactive isotopes as a group and their effects on cellular tissue, and some not so well known factoids regarding the effects of radiation from Chernobyl.
A fascinating Must-Read of enormous relevance to today's patients.

J. Sherr, Helios Homœpathy 22 Comments [4/7/2019 8:22:43 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 143156

In this vision I was over a great city; high above it, many miles above. Wisdom called out to me and said, "Come with me and I will show you the contention over this city."

"This city," he said, "is being contended for, but the contention is not for the buildings nor is it for the plots of land or the precious things in the city. The contention is for the eternal souls of men. Other things are merely used as distractions and control tools to wage this war. The saints must contend for the souls of men and cry out on their behalf to the Lord, because the wicked (though many of them do not know this) are contending on behalf of Satan, the prince of darkness."

As Wisdom spoke, my eyes were opened and I saw a pillar of smoke six thousand feet in diameter. I instantly knew the measurement of it. But I could not tell how far up this pillar was stretched. As far as I could perceive, it was endless in its length stretching into the heavens. It was bold. It was massive, thick, dark and billowing as if it was coming from the fires of a thousand mountains of rubber tires burning from the earth. It was quite an overwhelming sight. As we came closer to this smoke, Wisdom stretched out His hand and touched my nose. "I will let you smell the smoke just a little so that your testimony will be complete. The full weight of the smell you cannot bear." With this, He shielded me from the full weight of the smell of this smoke. Even so, the stench of the smoke was worse than anything I had ever smelled before. It was intense and sickening. This smell was many times worse than the stench I perceived in Hell. The stench was as overwhelming as the size of the pillar.
The smoke was not only dark and horrible in odor but it was also raging like a tornado. When I looked closely, the smoke was alive. It had a life of its own. It had a mouth, hands, legs, wings and hideous eyes. Yet when I came closer, I saw that within this entity were many other entities: devils and demons. This pillar of smoke was also a doorway into the heavens. There were ladders that went up and down; down all the way into the pit and up all the way into the heavens. Seeing and smelling this smoke, I wanted so badly to find out where it came from. Wisdom, knowing the thoughts of my heart, touched me again and showed me the city we were directly over. As I gazed towards the city my eyes opened and I saw tributaries of this smoke coming from thousands of locations merging together to form one pillar, one voice and to empower this one entity that empowers many other entities under him. There were small streams of smoke coming from homes, work places, schools, and individuals walking the streets. Every time any sin is committed, this smoke of rebellion and defiance is released against the Lord God Almighty. The many wicked and unrighteous activities done in this city were ascending to the God of heaven. Every stream of smoke was tagged with the practice that brought it up, and together, these streams were assembled to form a force that raged against the Lord God Almighty and against men and women created in His image. As the smoke rose up into the heavens their single chorus was: “Leave us alone, we want to do as we please. Your laws, your commandments and government are too much for us. They would not let us freely and fully exercise the wishes of our hearts. We want our own way, our own laws, our own rulers, and we want them to be according to the disposition of our hearts. We are a free people. You are a slave master, a controlling Lord, a hard-to-please King, a demanding One, and you do not understand us. You cross our lives and you ask for too much from us. You demand that we eat your flesh, drink your blood, hate our mothers and our fathers, change our lifestyles, just to follow you. You bind our lives to your rigid laws just to please you. We do not want you. If indeed you made the earth, Thank You and well done, but we will take it from here. We can run it from here; we do not need you at the helm anymore. We will serve whoever will give us peace, prosperity, long and good life but will also let us live our lives to the full content of our own pleasing. Whoever that person is let his kingdom come and let his will be done on earth. WE WANT A GOOD LIFE WITH NO TYRANT BOSS, THAT’S ALL. We give permission as the citizens of earth and of this region to the candidate that promises to fulfill our requirements so he can rule over us.” This is the anthem of a rebellious and wicked heart, from where these smokes proceeded.

With these and many other words the little streams of smoke, each loudly declaring their loyalty to the prince of darkness, ascended to join the pillar. Totally unawares, these literally hand over the earth—region by region—to Satan without even understanding what they are doing or knowing the deep consequences of their actions. Vote by vote, men and women vote Satan and his loyal representatives into ruling their lives. But they vote the Lord, the King of Righteousness out, cursing his great name through each thought, word and deed. They vote the Merciful King of Righteousness and those that represent him out of their lives, calling them hate-mongers. Yet the Lord God Almighty patiently waits at the door knocking (almost like a beggar, but He is a King who for the sake of love begs—for He is lovesick after His own) and hoping that the door will be opened for Him to come in and heal, restore, save, sanctify and reconcile. It is not His will that anyone should perish.

Michael ChristisKing, The War and the Stampede (book) 11 Comments [4/7/2019 8:22:35 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 143157

It seems to me that atheism is, if properly considered, treason.

In countries with the Queen as Head of State, she is held to be ‘Queen by the Grace of God’. In the USA, the Pledge of Allegiance involves expressing belief in ‘one nation united under God.’ It seems that by believing the God does not exist, a rejection of the notion of the Sovereign Divine Right of the Crown is negated, as well as the notion of a ‘nation united under God.’ Therefore, it seems that atheists are guilty, ipso facto, of treason, at least in the USA and Commonwealth countries.

Qoeleth, Catholic Answers 15 Comments [4/7/2019 4:48:37 AM]
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Submitted By: kumala

Quote# 143148

(Amos and Doug fighting about free will)

Doug Bristow:
Sorry my friend and brother in Christ but you are wrong on this one.
A child can tell you what free will is. God is LOVE. He created us out of love. He loves us and wants us to love Him. That is why He gave us free will because without free will there is no love; only a pre-programmed response. We can choose to love God by accepting His son Christ Jesus or we can choose not to love God by rejecting His son and thereby reject Him in the process.
To borrow from an insurance commercial...it is so easy a caveman can understand it

Amos Moses:
"we can choose not to love God by rejecting His son and thereby reject Him in the process."
unscriptural ........ it is not our choice ... it is Gods choice .... His sheep are not His sheep because they volunteered and did a good work by volunteering ....... by saying a sinners prayer ... there are no magic words or incantations .... God has ALWAYS had a CHOSEN people .... and do you know why ... because HE CHOSE THEM ... we did not choose Him .... our nature prevents us ..... the unregenerate man does not want to be seen as a fool .... and the things of God are foolishness to that man ......BTW ... free will is NOT spiritual and is not spiritually discerned .... it is idolatry ...

Doug Bristow:
John 3:16-17 New King James Version (NKJV)
16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

Amos Moses:
how did you make that "free will decision" BEFORE you were even created .................
1:4 According as He hath chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein He hath made us accepted in the beloved.

Doug Bristow:
We are all chosen for the offer of eternal life through Christ but sadly not all will accept.

Amos Moses:
no ... the offer is to all men but only the elect are chosen by God ..... and it says so outright in Ephesians .... He chooses His sheep .... the sheep do not chose their shepherd ....

Doug Bristow:
Where in Ephesians?

Amos Moses:
1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
1:4 According as He hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, (not our will)
1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
1:8 Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;
1:9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, (not our will) according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of Him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: (not our will)
1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

you were counted as saved even before you were created .... before the entire creation was created .... before you had any body, mind and soul to choose ...... as Gods plan .... that is the potters freedom .... the potter (God) who formed you from the clay ....

Doug Bristow:
Thats what I have been telling you. We are all predestined.

Amos Moses:
again ... that does not affirm "free will" ..... and that is not addressing all of humanity .... it addresses the Elect .... because only the elect are the "whoever" .... all men are called to do right by their God given conscience .... as a general call .... which the unregenerate ignore .... and what you are quoting does not address how fallen men decide what their choice is ... they have choice .... but they have a choice informed by their fallen nature not a philosophical "free will" .... and they cannot violate their nature until God changes that nature .........but Doug .... scripture says not one word about free will ..... and you have not shown by scripture that they do ... mans choices are dictated by his nature .... and until God changes that nature they are not able to choose God .... God makes them able because HE does the choosing .... the sheep do not choose their shepherd ...For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, that no one should boast. Eph (2:8–9)
faith and grace are Gods gifts ....... it is Gods actions that save us as it says faith and grace are not from us ..... faith and grace are not our works .... but your "free will choice" IS ............. God saves us ... NOT because of our "free will decision" ..... but IN SPITE of it ............

Doug Bristow:
It does affirm free will and it does address all of humanity but not all of humanity will choose to accept

Amos Moses:
you are reading into what you want to believe ... not what the text says .... and that is improper .....

Doug Bristow:
The whole world and whosoever.....

Amos Moses:
and the whosoever is only the elect .... because they are the ones CHOSEN by Him .... as He does the choosing .........

only the elect are the whosoever as they are the only ones God created out of all of humankind to be saved .... He created them to be saved and He created others to be destroyed .... and He did all this before the creation was created .....

Doug Bristow:
Your interpretation of scripture does not conform with John 3:16-17 and since God is not the author of confusion you are wrong.

Amos Moses/Doug Bristow, Disqus - Faith & Religion 15 Comments [4/6/2019 10:36:02 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 143147

Land of the Setting Sun

(Picture shows police arresting a man who possesses a bag labelled BIOHAZARD and a London bobby is seen taking a Bible out of it. A broken sign on it reads "Jesus Saves". Behind the scene a Muslim man chases a lady with a large knife but the police (4 of them) are tied up with the Christian man. A woman wearing a sign that says "KHE" points at the Christian man saying "That citizen called me a little lady!" In the foreground Rod Serling says, "This is London, 2019, where the sun long ago set on the British Empire. To their betrayal of Israel shortly after the first Great War they've now added total war on Christianity. It's a place where children are urged to wear 'pronoun badges' to specify how they demand to be addressed, and woe to those who won't bend the knee; where Tribulation police are getting their sea legs for that big event just around the corner. This...is the Twilight Zone.")

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 19 Comments [4/6/2019 10:35:59 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 143138

How I Overcame Homosexuality by Kegan Wesley

Kegan Wesley was raped at 10 years-old by several homosexual men, he lead an LGBT lifestyle for many years, until he met Jesus Christ at an Eddie James concert. He now speaks to thousands about how Christ completed and restored him, and how Christians can serve ...

This is not a message of hate, but of love - how Jesus Christ loved Kegan to life and freedom.

The power of Jesus will change your life!


Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified. Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 14 Comments [4/6/2019 10:33:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 142833

response to article
Submitted by American College of Pediatricians on June 7, 2017 - 10:39am
The American College of Pediatricians is a professional organization confident in the science we present and in the traditional ethics we uphold. In the past, we have typically directed critics to the relevant content on our website. Mr. Jack Turban that is not only libelous, but also denies the fact that untold numbers of American children are being experimented upon, and many of them permanently sterilized, under the guise of treating a largely transient disorder known as Gender Dysphoria of Childhood. This warrants a more public response.

The American College of Pediatricians has held true to its founding principles summarized by its slogan, “Best for Children.” The College has also endured ad hominem attacks for making factual statements that threaten agendas which promote the wants of adults over the needs of children. Attacking the messenger is a tactic commonly used by those who cannot refute a truthful message. Labels, such as hate group, extremist, right wing, miniscule, Christian fundamentalist, and deceptively named, reveal desperate attempts to deflect attention away from facts that undermine a desired agenda.

The American College of Pediatricians is precisely what its name implies: a national nonsectarian organization of child and adolescent physicians and health professionals. We have never surveyed the religious identities of our membership, nor attempted to attract physicians of a given religion. In fact, members of our Board of Directors and various committees have identified themselves as Christian, Jewish, Muslim and Buddhist. We are physicians and healthcare professionals united by a commitment to traditional Hippocratic medicine; a medical tradition that respects life from conception to natural death and provides care to all patients, as delineated in our Statement of Inclusiveness. It is true that we are relatively smaller than other medical organizations; we have 500 members and counting. Ultimately, however, this is irrelevant to the veracity of our statements; sound science and ethics are not determined by majority vote.

Responsible journalism requires thorough investigation of the subject at hand. This appears lacking with Mr. Turban’s report on the ACPeds. He and others have expressed deep concern over our very legitimate name, yet they erroneously designate us as the “ACP,” which stands for the American College of Physicians. Our proper designation is ACPeds. Our web address, pretty much gives it away. Then again, most of our detractors have never bothered to give our website, position statements, let alone any of the hundreds of scientific references there, a careful read. Were they to do so, they would realize how easily their alternative facts would be refuted, particularly those regarding Gender Dysphoria in Children.

Yes, Mr. Turban, prior to the widespread promotion of transgender affirmation, 75 - 95 percent of prepubertal children with Gender Dysphoria eventually outgrew that distress. The vast majority came to accept their biological sex by late adolescence after passing naturally through puberty. The alternative fact, recently put forth by activists, that large numbers of children who desisted were actually “misdiagnosed” with Gender Dysphoria is debunked by data in Dr. Devita Singh’s doctoral thesis, and also by Dr. T.D. Steensma et. al., as noted in slides 23-25 of our Gender Dysphoria power point.

Yes, Mr. Turban, children diagnosed with Gender Dysphoria pre-pubertally are permanently sterilized when the World Professional Association for Transgender Health and Pediatric Endocrine Society Guidelines are followed. According to these Guidelines, children are placed on puberty blockers as early as Tanner stage II of puberty (as young as age 11) and then placed directly on cross-sex hormones by age 16. An article by Dr. A. Evan Eyler, referenced in our full position statement, confirms that children administered blockers beginning at Tanner stage II and seamlessly transitioned to cross-sex hormones are prevented from producing gonadal tissue (eggs or sperm) for cryopreservation. They will be unable to have genetic offspring of their own even with artificial reproductive technology.

There is an obvious self-fulfilling effect in helping children to impersonate the opposite sex both socially and pharmacologically. Logic leads one to predict that most, if not all, pre-pubertal gender dysphoric children treated in this way will lose the potential to identify with their biological sex, and instead go on to claim a transgender identity. As noted in our position statement, the single follow-up study of such children finds just that; 100% of the pre-pubertal children placed on the social affirmation/puberty blocker protocol failed to desist.

According to the APA Handbook of Sexuality and Psychology (2014), among those youth who did resolve their Gender Dysphoria prior to the present-day transgender affirmation ethos, 63 - 100% of boys would identify as gay adults, and 32-50% of the girls would identify as lesbian by young adulthood. Affirming pre-pubertal gender dysphoric children as transgender potentially translates into a significant percentage of LGB adults being sterilized. Consequently, some members of the LGB community stand with the ACPeds against this “transgendering of children” which they view as nothing less than the single greatest form of homophobic hatred, namely, eugenics.
Contrary to popular belief, there is no evidence that the elevated rates of mental illness and suicide among transgender-identified youth and adults are due solely, or even predominately, to societal prejudice or discrimination. At least one 2008 study by LGBT-affirming researchers, noted in our Gender Dysphoria position statement, found these factors not to be causative. Mr. Turban’s article also alleges that the College has ignored evidence that transition improves mental health in gender dysphoric children. The “evidence” consists of two small short term studies that contain methodological flaws, and therefore, prove no such thing. There is also no scientifically rigorous, large, prospective or sufficiently longitudinal evidence that transition of gender dysphoric children prevents suicide in the long term. However, there is long-term research on the mental health of adults who transitioned with Gender Dysphoria. This reveals that despite initial relief of the dysphoria, one or more decades after transition, they often present with worse mental health than that of the general population, including a suicide rate nearly twenty times greater. This observation raises more questions than it answers, and should, therefore, give pediatric health professionals great pause- at least those who value evidence-based medicine and are dedicated to ‘first do no harm’.

Some members of the transgender community recognize this and have expressed solidarity with the ACPeds. Rene Jax, a Male to Female Trans author, wrote:

"Dear Dr. Cretella,
Chemical castration, sterilization and surgical mutilation are more than just words to me. They are personal and brutal realities; no child should be subjected to this. Thank you."

The ACPeds has also been contacted by clinicians and academic physicians across the political spectrum, including LGB affirming clinicians. They have expressed their gratitude to the ACPeds for saying publicly what they cannot. Division chairs in psychology and sociology, and many pediatric endocrinologists have told us that to stand for science and go against transgender group think is professional suicide and often results in relentless harassment including death threats.

Belief is in the mind; not in the body. Everyone knows that thinking or feeling that something is true does not make it true. When people consistently and persistently insist something that is contrary to physical reality, they are, at best, confused, or at worst, delusional. According to the alternative logic of transgender experts, however, this is true in every instance except where biological sex is concerned. In this case alone, the persistent and consistent insistence of something contrary to physical reality is definitive proof of the metaphysical claim that an immaterial essence, or in the words of Dr. John Money, “[an] internal sexed identity” is trapped in the wrong body. This foundational claim of transgender medicine has far more in common with a quasi-religion than it has with evidence-based science. How much longer will society sacrifice the health of its children upon these altars?

Michelle Cretella, MD, FCP President

Michelle Cretella, Psychology Today 8 Comments [4/5/2019 4:33:11 PM]
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Quote# 142802


Cardinal George Pell’s December 2018 conviction on charges of “historic sexual abuse” was a travesty of justice, thanks in part to a public atmosphere of hysterical anti-Catholicism—a fetid climate that had a devastating impact on the possibility of his receiving a fair trial.

How else does one explain how 12 jurors, presented with uncorroborated charges refuted by overwhelming evidence that the alleged crimes could not have happened, completely reversed the overwhelming pro-acquittal vote delivered by a hung jury in the cardinal’s first trial last year?

Anonymous, FSTDT 12 Comments [4/5/2019 4:31:23 PM]
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Submitted By: TB Tabby

Quote# 143133

[LifeFuel] New Islamic criminal laws in Brunei allowing death by stoning or whipping for gay sex come into force today.

NeetSupremacist, incels.co 14 Comments [4/4/2019 12:39:22 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 143130

It boggles the mind that young women at a Catholic university could reach the age of reason and yet appear unashamed in a state of brazen immodesty before the King of Kings. Did their mothers not teach them? Did their fathers not discipline them?


How is this even a discussion? Young women are publicly displaying, at Mass, sights reserved for their future husbands only. Young men have sex rubbed in their faces ever minute of every day, and it's not as if these skanks are oblivious to it. They're willingly participating in it.


These callous witches know what they're doing. The entire purpose of wearing tights in public is to draw male attention with sex. They value dopamine hits from strangers above young men's eternal souls. They are stumbling blocks to their brothers in Christ.

Enough. Priests and bishops, the confessional has no doubt acquainted you with the massive epidemic of young men enslaved to sexual sin. How can they combat these loathsome vices when you allow them no respite from temptation, not even within the walls of Holy Mother Church?

Announce that leggings are forbidden starting next Sunday. Any woman in leggings who presents herself for communion after that point can be assumed to be giving scandal obstinately and willfully. As such, she is in a state of mortal sin. Deny her communion.

If your female congregants can't bear to part with their hooker pants, make chapel veils mandatory again. Have the ushers hand them out to every woman who walks in the door. If a woman presents herself for communion without a veil...you guessed it.

And for the sake of all that's holy, Notre Dame, ban Irish 4 Reproductive Health. Not only are they heretics, their spelling is a disgrace to the university system.

If female congregants don't like these proposals, they can find somewhere else to troll for johns. I recommend the lot behind the bus station.

Of course, I don't expect any of these common sense and frankly morally obligatory steps to be taken. The childless Boomer hags who run most parishes share their younger counterparts' satanic contempt for men. They just can't squeeze into tights anymore.

To Millennial women who complain that they can't find a good man: Do you not understand that we find you not just distasteful, but monstrous? You treat men as sources of attention, pleasure, and resources, yet you dismiss men's concerns with ever shriller calls for rights you already have.

A record number of men under 30 have stopped having sex altogether. Do have any idea how hard it is to deny that basic masculine drive? For today's sex-addicted men, it's like going without food or water. Congratulations, ladies, you are so awful that some men are doing the equivalent of starving themselves rather than be with you.

Brian Niemeier, Kairos 26 Comments [4/4/2019 12:34:56 PM]
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Quote# 143129

Not only are members of modern culture stupid and evil, but they are also emotionally shallow. Other than their outward appearance, they have no traits that historically would have been considered human. They are like giant human-shaped cockroaches, just pests awaiting extermination.

fschmidt, r/nonmorons 28 Comments [4/4/2019 12:31:44 PM]
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Quote# 143084

I think people don't consider two things.

The incredible size of the ark coupled with the size of juvenile animals.
The understanding of the word, "kind". For example, there were no poodles, pickapoos, Chihuahuas, German Shepherds, etc.

Scarlett O. , BaptistBoard 23 Comments [4/4/2019 12:30:19 PM]
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Quote# 143080

A letter from hell is a made up video dramatization about two friends, Zach and Josh. They were best buddies who did everything together. They played sports, did homework together, and they were close like brothers. Zach was a Christian which means a follower of Christ. Not once did he ever talk to Josh about Jesus and sadly, he had plenty of opportunities.

Tragically one night, Josh drank a few beers, died in a car crash, and went to hell. In the video, Josh is telling Zach about his terrifying experience as soon as he died, and is wondering why he never told him about Jesus. Josh said that he tried to bring up the subject many times about Zack being a Christian. For some reason, Zach did not want to talk about it and always changed the topic to something else.

In his letter to Zach, Josh is telling him his experience step by step. He is seeing angels and the angels are looking in the Lamb’s Book of Life to see if his name is written in there. They told him that only the names that were written in the book were able to enter heaven. When they tell him that his name is not there, they start leading him towards hell which is a place of eternal torment for those who rejected Christ. You can hear the terror in Josh’s voice. He is beyond frightened. He is telling him how he can feel, talk and see, but he is in a horrible place. Again, he is asking Zach why he never told him how to be a Christian. Josh goes on to say that he is getting closer to the flames and he can smell the brimstone and sulfur. Finally, he is thrown into the fire. The video ends by Zach responding to Josh’s letter and saying that he had no time to tell him about Jesus and that he could not be bothered.

Although this dramatization is fiction, it is really reality. How many people have come and gone in our lifetime without us telling them about Jesus? In the Bible in Mark 16:15, it says to “Go into the world and preach the Gospel to every creature.” We as Christians are commanded to do so. We are to tell others that Jesus died on the cross for our sins so we can have eternal life. In Zach’s case, if Josh was his best friend, why would he want his best friend to go to such a horrible place? Zach knew very well that this place exists.

I think we can all ask that question ourselves. Do we tell others about Jesus? Our job is to tell them. Then it is up to them if they want to accept or not, but we have a responsibility. When I get to heaven some day, I don’t want Jesus to say to me, “Why didn’t you tell others about me?” This video will really touch you because this is reality and happens all the time.

Itchy fish, Itchy fish 14 Comments [4/4/2019 12:29:51 PM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 143061

R. Brown: You cannot pick and choose only parts of Jesus’ teachings to suit your own desires. Jesus spoke often of hell especially in the last part of St. Matthew. It is all written in red, and I would be sure to follow ALL of his teachings which includes eternal hell fire and outer darkness. He did not mix words when explaining these things. Even the parable of “the rich man and the poor man” portrays hell as fire and eternal with undying thirst. Why take a chance on this? It is the most important decision of your life. The Bible is the only road map that we have. I am VERY close to God at this point in my life. I believe in following very closely with the red print of the Bible above all else, because it is as close as we are going to get to what Jesus said. When your meditate and pray everyday, the Holy Spirit guides you to what you should believe. I believe there are many hellish experiences that people do not want others to know. Also, they went to hell and were not sent back. The best thing to do is accept Christ and do not depend on ministers, church people, family, anybody, but Jesus Christ and his teachings. He said if you believe in him you believe in God the father who sent him. With this comes the blessed Holy Spirit. Why would you need anything else. Prayer and reading God’s Word everyday will open up your understanding of what he wants of us. We need to love our fellow human beings, forgive all who trespass against us. The unforgiving spirit (holding grudges) will keep you out of heaven. Jesus said we must forgive to be forgiven. He lists all the things that will bar you from heaven: lying, fornicating, stealing, killing, even fearfulness (not trusting him), on and on they are all listed. The answer to all our questions are in the Bible and closeness to HIM. May God bring his understanding and blessings to all of you.

Nan Bush: If there were a single “right interpretation” there would not be so many denominations and disagreements. Thank you for participating in the conversation.

R. Brown: How can you interpret the following (in red) any differently then how it is written: Matthew Chapter 25 verses 41 through 46 (Jesus was addressing caring for the least among us). He said to those who showed no mercy and love for their fellow human being ” Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, ‘Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels; For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat; I was thirsty and ye gave me no drink. I was a stranger and ye took me not in; naked and ye clothed me not; sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not
Inasmuch as ye did it not one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. ‘ And these shall go away into everlasting punishment but the righteous into life eternal.”
How can anyone not understand these very clearly stated words? I admit there are some parts of the Bible that are difficult to understand without a prayerful communication with HIM, but not hell. He clearly states in many passages what hell is and how to avoid it.
God bless you, Nan Bush. Keep praying and a pure and loving heart, and God will reveal to you the meaning of the distressing NDE you had.

R. Brown, Dancing Past The Dark 3 Comments [4/4/2019 12:29:42 PM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 143128

War Criminal Lectures Croatian Students on Religious Faith

Anja Vladisavljevic | Zagreb | BIRN | April 3, 2019

Bosnian Croat Hague Tribunal convict Dario Kordic gave a speech at a student residence in Zagreb about his years in prison and his religious beliefs, while some protesters tried to disrupt the event by chanting that he was a war criminal.

Dario Kordic, a former military commander in the self-proclaimed Croatian Republic of Herzeg-Bosnia wartime statelet and a convicted war criminal, gave a talk about his Christian faith to students of religion in Zagreb on Tuesday evening.

The lecture, entitled ‘God Behind Bars’, was held in the cinema hall of the Stjepan Radic student residence and organised by students’ associations, a religious association and a Herzegovinian students’ club.

The event began with a religious song sung by the audience along with Kordic, who held a rosary in his hands throughout the event.

One student introduced Kordic and said that the topic of the gathering would not be “the Orwellian international judiciary and its concept of justice” but “the testimony of a man who has borne the burden of living for his ideals”.

However some protesting students tried to disrupt the event by chanting “war criminal” at Kordic, before men from the audience threw them out of the hall and took away the banner that they planned to hold up.

But the protesters did manage to hang a banner with the words “Dario Koljac [Dario the Butcher]” on the student dormitory’s balcony.

Kordic reacted calmly to the disruption, saying that there are people who are bothered by God’s love.

“You’ve probably seen that in recent months and years, ugly, unfounded articles about me [were published], 25 years after the events of the war,” Kordic said.

“Forgive them, father, for they know not what they do,” he added, using a phrase attributed to Jesus in the Bible.

Kordic, a former Croatian Defence Council commander, was convicted by the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia of planning and instigating killings in the village of Ahmici and neighbouring hamlets in April 1993 and ethnically cleansing the area.

He was released in 2014 after serving two-thirds of his 25-year sentence.

He told the students in Zagreb on Tuesday that he maintained his devotion to God during the war and throughout his years in prison.

“I was in the hands of the Lord, and in my pocket I had my rosary,” he said.

The Croatian Defence Council, which was backed by Croatia, attacked the village of Ahmici in Bosnia and Herzegovina on April 16, 1993, killing more than 100 civilians, mostly women and children. The youngest victim was three months old and the oldest was 82.

Some people were buried alive in their houses, while the local mosque was destroyed.

Judgments handed down by the Hague Tribunal have said that Herzeg-Bosnia was founded with the intention of splitting the territory from Bosnia and Herzegovina and uniting it with a ‘Greater Croatia’.

Dario Kordic and his supporters, BalkanInsight 16 Comments [4/3/2019 3:34:49 PM]
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Submitted By: Vman

Quote# 143122

People-Pleasing Preachers and Pastors

It's clear in the Holy Bible that only God can call men to the position of preachers and pastors, in His ministry. Sadly, we see many men and women who live in open rebellion against God, calling themselves to the roles of preachers and pastors. That is not biblical. This is what God says about the matter:Jeremiah 3:15 (KJV)
15 And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding.

Jeremiah 23:1 (KJV)
23 Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the Lord.

Ephesians 4:11-12 (KJV)
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

Galatians 1:10 (KJV)
For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.?

Colossians 3:23 (KJV)
And whatsoever ye do, do [it] heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;??

Colossians 3:22 (KJV)
Servants, obey in all things [your] masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:??

Proverbs 29:25 (KJV)
The fear of man bringeth a snare: but whoso putteth his trust in the LORD shall be safe.??

Matthew 6:1 (KJV)
Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

??Romans 12:2 (KJV)
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what [is] that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

??James 4:4 (KJV)
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.??

Matthew 6:33 (KJV)
But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

??2 Timothy 4:3-4 (KJV)
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.??

Romans 8:31 (KJV)
What shall we then say to these things? If God [be] for us, who [can be] against us?

?Galatians 2:20 (KJV)
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.??

Colossians 3:24 (KJV)
Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.

(A man in a suit holding an open book, with his head replaced with a wolf's via awkward photoshopping. Caption: "The Bible warns us of false prophets in the last days" followed by some cited scripture passages)

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified. Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 14 Comments [4/3/2019 3:31:21 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 143112

Elohim and allah are not the same.
Elohim created the universe and all that is in it with His Son, Jesus Christ.
allah is a made up pagan moon god moham used to fool the masses.
This woman did the best thing she could to start this man's career, invoke God for protection, then ask Him to heal our land.
The muslim cries blasphemy against Christ, while he is the being blasphemous for calling out His name in vain, not even recognizing that He is Christ. Like the lady said, every knee shall bow, and this man will have to confess that Christ is Lord and King.
Objections OVERRULED!!!
And if William Penn was here, he would be saying the same prayer... Then, he would have had the guts to drag the interloper out to the curb and thrash him soundly.
His prayer and explanation were not sound... he is invoking allah to claim the land or position that he prayed over. Then they think no one else is entitled to it.

peanut butter, Christian News Network 16 Comments [4/3/2019 3:22:22 PM]
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Submitted By: Bob J

Quote# 143111

Today's Laugh 4-2-19

Tucker Carlson: We're back with Rosie O'Donnell, debating whether liberalism is a mental disorder. Whoa, where did this come from? (Holds piece of paper which says Chick-Fil-A)
Rosie O'Donnell: WAAAAA

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 18 Comments [4/3/2019 3:22:08 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 143095

Today's Laugh 4-1-19

(TRANSCRIPT - Counsellor speaks to man (presumably Brian Williams) in straitjacket. COUNSELLOR: "Now then, Brian. The five stages of grief are Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, and eventually-acceptance by NBC." BRIAN: "NEVER!! (mumbles) Mueller...Mueller...Mueller...")

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 12 Comments [4/2/2019 4:20:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta
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