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Quote# 4360

[Replying to 'So a father has a right to rape his daughters?']I do not condone those actions, what he does within his castle has nothing to do with me. if i chose to interfere then i am disrespecting that family's rights the same as the father is disrespecting his daughters rights... Two wrongs don't make a right... You can't condone abuseing family rights and condem the father for abuseing his dauthers rights your doing the same thing as him... Its called disrespect and i find to be quite sad just how many people don't respect other peoples rights.

Haylow, Internet Infidels 9 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 16

Quote# 4361

No thats not what im saying, im saying society can't do anything about it without society becomeing disrespectful to peoples rights the same as parents who beat, rape and therefor be disrespectful to there children's rights

Haylow, Internet Infidels 5 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 4362

Parents are free to beat and rape and kill, we all are free to do these things and why i don't condone these actions i have to respect that people have free will to do these actions if i don't then i am just another disrespectful person in this world... Its not beating people thats wrong its disrespecting of a persons rights thats wrong.

Haylow, Internet Infidels 15 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 4363

Now, what happens if you are right? We both die in ground, and i won't particularly care whether i lead people to believe in something incorrect. I'll be too dead to worry about it.

Magus55, Internet Infidels 10 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 1

Quote# 4364

So, follow the scientific method and observe, test and recreate the big bang, life from non-life, evolve me a man from a primate, a planet/star being created, and on and on and on.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 1 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 2

Quote# 4365

But you are saying, although we canoot observe, test or recreate evolution, the big bang, billions of years, life from non life etc, its still science because it seems to fit what we can test. Sorry, Not buying it.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 2 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 4

Quote# 4366

And no we cant observe planets and stars being formed, it takes billions of years. You may CLAIM to see readings that indicate a certain body is in the process of it, but a) you are not observing it, just data and b) you have only 'seen' it for a fraction of the time required.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 1 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 4367

We continue to observe <u>the effects of</u> electrons, enough to believe to a high degree of certainly they exist. One cannot observe the beginning our our universe.&quot; [Emphasis added]

joelch2, Rapture Ready 13 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 4

Quote# 4368

This [detectable, specific, predictable effects of the Big Bang and evolution] is not the same... None of these prove anything, we just interpret it to mean whatever. An eyewitness account or a test tube full of 'starter stuff' would help immensely.

HeIsEnough, Rapture Ready 3 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 2

Quote# 4369

I don't believe there was a Big Bang... But I do believe that there may have been a central starting point and everything is expanding and moving away from each other.

joelch2, Rapture Ready 18 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 4370

This is what science does. When it hits the supernatural wall, it searches for a way around it. It has been successful so far, I'm sure it will continue to do so. In my opinion, it will be at the cost of many souls.

HeIsEnough, Rapture Ready 6 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 4371

If the idea of electrons are based as loosely on stories that fit intrepretations of evidence as the big bang and evolution, then I would be as skeptical. But I have no reason to believe this as I have not researched it.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 8 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 4

Quote# 4372

Further, it [evolution] doesn't meet any of the qualifications of the Scientifuic Method except maybe being able to make a hypothesis (which is to come AFTER observation so its arguable not even that is valid).

Rom831, Rapture Ready 4 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 4373

That [indirect observation and testing] is a goofy loophole those desperate to condone their faith try to allow. But it is dishonest and false. If you follow the scientific method you must observe something and test. If you test DNA you have a theory on DNA. If you test isotopic decay you can have a theory on isotoipic decay. If you test red shifts you can get a theory on red shifts. You do not test DNA and all of a sudden have evolution.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 8 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 4

Quote# 4374

hmmmm... you observed chromosomes, made a[n extremely unlikely] perdiction on chromosomes [using evolution], tested the chromosomes and repeated the test on chromosomes [with remarkable success]. Cool, now observe, test and repeat evolution. Chromosomes are not evolution.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 0 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 2

Quote# 4375

Not seeing cells has nothing to do with not seeing flying pigs. Just because one exists has no bearing on the other. Your major stance in this whole thread is comparing two things which have no bearing on each other. If electrons do or do not exist has no relavance to evolution, the big bang, etc. Give it up. You may be able to fool a grade school student with this nonscense, but its not getting you anywhere here.

Rom831, Rapture Ready 4 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 3810

I dont think that you need to be openly Satanist to have your posts influenced by Satan.

Hootmon, Rapture Ready 6 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: -3

Quote# 3811

I believe that witchcraft is real. Before I came to the Lord I practiced black magic, mind control and transcendental meditation... All of these powers are linked directly to demonic spirits. I had actual conversations with demons.

ladyepiskopos, Theology Web 16 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 3812

I believe that witchcraft is real. Before I came to the Lord I practiced black magic, mind control and transcendental meditation... All of these powers are linked directly to demonic spirits. I had actual conversations with demons.

ladyepiskopos, Theology Web 25 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 3813

I am convinced that modern witchcraft and demonic activity is around today. When you spend as much time as I do in Utah and in front of Mormon temples, you come to understand.

SlaveofChrist, Theology Web 5 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 2

Quote# 3814

A good friend of mine is an exorcist, and if it doesn't exist then he must be insane. There is no evidence whatsoever of him being insane, so it must exist.

SlaveofChrist, Theology Web 27 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 10

Quote# 3815

I think Gary North correctly explains the subject... witchcraft is humanism come to flower, humanism in its logical implications.

Thomas2003, Theology Web 3 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 3

Quote# 3816

I know people who were missionaries in Uganda and said that the demonic forces there were so strong, witchdoctors would fly thorugh the air... My missionary friends were at the place of a witchdoctor one time and he, trying to prove his power, laid on a table and began to float and levitate...The wife walked over to him, put her hands on him and said 'In the Name of Jesus,' and the man hit the table with a thud!

darcutm, Theology Web 19 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 3817

The Word of My God is never wrong. If it is in the Holy Bible, than it is true. Ain't [no way] any of its wrong. The Bible and its prophecies are 100% true.

SmileyMike, Rapture Ready 16 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 3818

You have evidence of change WITHIN an animal group, i.e. dingos, coyotes, heanias, & poodles are different 'species' of dog, but the are all dogs. None of them have bunny ears, webbed feet, feathers or hooves.

Big Dave, FaithForum.org 15 Comments [9/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
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