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Quote# 89280

[In a possible hate crime, large amounts of bacon were found scattered at an Islamic prayer site.]

Lol.....somedays it is like living in an alternate universe. Right after 911 some friends and I toyed with the idea of putting a greased pig in a gated mosque here...lol. Glad we didn’t do it..we could be serving time for a silly prank.

God help this country. Our overlords are restless to destroy freedom.

penelopesire, Free Republic 65 Comments [8/31/2012 3:21:14 AM]
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Quote# 89275

["Saudis Building Women-Only City"]

This is overly generous of the Muslim men, and most likely destabilizing. By being recklessly chivalrous, Saudi men are introducing a cancer to Saudi society.

If I were the governing forces in Saudi Arabia, I would export Saudi women who wanted to work to other countries; for example, flush the trouble makers into America or Britain and let them slave away.

I would then replace the unhappy exports with new imports who were happy with Saudi life.

I think the Saudi man’s inexperience with feminism has caused them to make a decision which will eventually destroy the Saudi family and bring misery to the entire country. This is a big mistake.

walking in hell2, The Spearhead 42 Comments [8/31/2012 3:20:10 AM]
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Quote# 89268

In World War II, people died to produce and protect books. Anti-Fascist organizations, American Jewish Groups and writers, editors and journalists launched massive demonstrations in defense of the book, including, on March 10, 1933, the largest march, to that date, in the history of New York City: 100,000 people turned out to express outrage at the burning of books and other events in Germany. In its coverage of the Berlin book burnings, Newsweek used "Holocaust" as its headline.

Today's hi-tech propagandists tell us that the book is a tree-murdering, space-devouring, inferior form that society would be better off without. In its place, they want us to carry around the Uber-Kindle.

The hi-tech campaign to relocate books to Google and replace books with Kindles is, in its essence, a deportation of the literary culture to a kind of easily monitored concentration camp of ideas, where every examination of a text leaves behind a trail, a record, so that curiosity is also tinged with a sense of disquieting fear that some day someone in authority will know that one had read a particular book or essay. This death of intellectual privacy was also a dream of the Nazis. And when I hear the term Kindle, I think not of imaginations fired but of crematoria lit.

Alan Kaufman, Huffington Post 77 Comments [8/30/2012 6:03:57 AM]
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Submitted By: Cyclonus

Quote# 89263

[Not a poe]

In conclusion, non-Muslims cannot provide an INTELLECTUAL AND RATIONAL argument against the Islamic law regarding the killing of apostates. They can only provide EMOTIONAL and SUBJECTIVE arguments.

However, Muslims let their rationality overcome their emotions and don't fall for these silly appeal to emotion arguments. That is probably the main reason why we are Muslims.

In conclusion, the Muslim should keep his head up and confidently say:


Bassam Zawadi, Call to Monotheism 56 Comments [8/30/2012 5:38:07 AM]
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Quote# 89259

God and the United States are merged very strongly.


This needs a thread all by its self. Some are having trouble in understanding elementary school civics. In elementary civics we teach the "separation o church and state" whereas we do not teach "separation of state and God." As difficult as this concept is for some liberals who try to twist American freedom into some type of humanism and moral relativity, Americans have chosen an absolute God as the bases of government. Why can some of you not see our freedoms folks not grasp the truth that Americans have never given up their faith in God? Americans have used the instructions of God to build on the Rock our freedoms and liberties into our government.

America is unique among democratic countries because we have kept God as a provider of our self-evident rights. If we allow humanist and liberals to take God out of government. as we rightly have done the church. we no longer have an authority for America;s greatness. When God is gone then we are gone as a unique country and our freedoms and liberties are gone.

Gadfly, cf 42 Comments [8/30/2012 5:35:20 AM]
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Submitted By: Podkayne

Quote# 89257

Actually the mom, Obama’s mom, whom Obama portrays as this Midwestern girl from Kansas, but really no, she became an atheist and a leftist and at times even almost a communist, she would say things like ‘what’s wrong with communism?’ and she wanted to marry a Third World anti-American guy and in succession she married two of them. She was the one that cultivated in Obama this sort of anti-capitalist and somewhat anti-American ideology and then of course Obama, once it took, throughout his life would go looking for other guys, mentors, surrogate fathers if you will, who are like his dad and like his mom and then he would study under them and learn chapter and verse of this Third World ideology.

Dinesh D'Souza, Right Wing Watch 42 Comments [8/30/2012 5:34:21 AM]
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Quote# 89253

Evolutionists love to omit details in order to make their alternative theory work. There is no evidence for the claimed tranisitional process. It is all read into by unbelievers who do not want God to exist.
Oh and I am still waiting for the scripture that says it is okay to use science over God's word.

Dr. David Tee, Exploring Our Matrix 37 Comments [8/30/2012 5:33:11 AM]
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Quote# 89249

It is Dr. Tee to you and no permission has been granted to address me otherwise. First off, those who go with alternatives to the Bible are not Christians unless they are new believers and learning the difference between their old beliefs and biblical ones.
Secondly, You know nothing of scripture. Science is not is not what God said to use. He said--use faith-- as that pleases HIm. So you reject what God says pleases Him to go with something He did not say to use.
the only arrogant one is you.

Dr. David Tee, Exploring Our Matrix 44 Comments [8/30/2012 5:32:17 AM]
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Quote# 89248

Your problem Mcgrath is that no divine command or teaching states we are to follow scientists or their conclusions. They are mere humans subject to the sin and corruption that entered the world at Adam's sin.
There are divine commands and teachings to follow God, Jesus, and the Bible. In fact, there are verses teaching us to NOT follow the unbelieving world. Since Darwin rejected God and in his own words stated that his 'conversion' never took, anyone following any form of evolutionary teaching would be following an unbeliever and deceitful teachings.
Your choice is not to repent and turn back to God or continue following lies.

Dr. David Tee, Exploring Our Matrix 27 Comments [8/30/2012 5:28:19 AM]
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Quote# 89211

One of the most disturbing effects of the world's fascination with all things supernatural (except for Jesus) is the impact on our children through video games and entertainment based on the ancient influences referenced in the video:

Dungeons and Dragons
Masters of the Universe
World of Warcraft
Innumerable violence/combat games
Werewolves (for teens of course)
Harry Potter
Grand Theft Auto
The Hunger Games

Anybody here old enough to remember "O Mighty Isis" (Saturday morning kid's show)?

It's bad enough that electronics has transformed many of our children into obese, drooling couch potatoes. Edison and Tesla never intended video devil worship.

Raphael, rapture ready 83 Comments [8/29/2012 5:40:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Tony

Quote# 89019

Police in Grand Rapids, Michigan say that there was nothing they could do after Bible-preaching protesters threatened to rape and murder pro-LGBT activists at a “Gay Day” event over the weekend.

In a video posted to YouTube, several protesters with Bibles can be seen shouting at a woman celebrating in the inaugural “Gay Day” celebration, an event organized by the human rights group Tolerance, Equality and Awareness Movement (TEAM) to showcase the community’s diversity.

“Back in the day there was no free power, there was no going to the mall,” one protester tells the woman. “There was, ‘sit your ass in this house until I bring my ass home.’”

“And if your ass get to going out there like you said, guess what?” a second protester adds. “You get raped. And that’s what’s going to happen to you. … Keep your pussy clean, that’s all you need to do. Do you understand?”

After one man claims, “the Lord said that,” the woman challenges him to find the corresponding Bible verse.

He responds with Isaiah 13: “Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.”

“What does ‘ravished’ mean? It means, we going to rape your ass,” the protester explains. “And I’m going to have fun doing that shit. And you going to like that. I promise you.”

After briefly arguing that he is misinterpreting the Bible, the woman observes, “Anything I say, you say it doesn’t matter.”

“It’s going to matter right now,” the man shoots back. “It’s going to matter when your clothes off and I’m going inside of you repeatedly. That’s when it’s going to matter. Because you going to enjoy yourself.”

. . . WWMT reported that the men were part of a Christian black supremacist group called the Black Hebrew Israelites. According to the South Poverty Law Center, the quickly spreading movement preaches “a frightening, racist theology that says Jesus Christ is returning soon to kill or enslave white people, Jews, homosexuals, and others.”

Certain cultures practice “corrective rape” to “correct” the sexual orientation of Lesbian women.

Unnamed Protestors, Raw Story 78 Comments [8/29/2012 5:34:12 AM]
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Quote# 88828

The leader of a group of black pastors opposed to gay marriage lashed out at President Barack Obama during a Tuesday appearance at the National Press Club. In his remarks, Rev. William Owens accused Obama of being “unprofessional” for ignoring him and insinuated that Obama had condoned child molestation by endorsing gay marriage.

“For the homosexual community and for the president to bow to the money as Judas did for Jesus Christ is a disgrace and we’re ashamed,” said Owens, the president and founder of the Coalition for African American Pastors.

“If you watch the men who have been caught having sex with little boys,” said Owens, “you will note that all of them will say that I was molested as a child. A man molested me in my home, wherever they will say they were molested. And for the president to condone this type thing knowing the full facts is just irresponsible.”

Owens added that the “president is in the White House because of the Civil Rights movement, and I was a leader in that. And I didn’t march one inch, one foot, one yard for a man to marry a man and a woman to marry a woman. So the president has forgotten the price that was paid … where they gave their blood to have equal rights in the United States.”

Owens said that Obama endorsed gay marriage “because of money” and bellowed: “there are more people that want marriage to be right than there are homosexuals, I assure you, in this country, and I think he’s going to learn that lesson.”

Rev. William Owens , Daily Caller 37 Comments [8/29/2012 5:12:10 AM]
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Submitted By: Sergeant343

Quote# 88787

Christians are the new blacks...being discriminated against and attacked with impunity.

Birutegal, Amazon.com Christianity Discussion Forum 51 Comments [8/29/2012 5:04:33 AM]
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Quote# 88769

I think there could be some truth to that. Porn encourages perversion and sexual deviance. When it comes to that point, anything is game. Animals, other men, etc. Crossing that line from straight porn into the gay kind is only a fine line. Trannies is usually what they start with. That leads into "circle jerks" and before ya know, it the whole enchilada.

Truth, Fairfax Underground 49 Comments [8/29/2012 4:00:14 AM]
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Quote# 88733

Allah is an extremely powerful demon. He is a demon God. What Muslims are worshiping is actually a demon. They think they are worshiping God, they’re deceived, they’ve been fooled, so I don’t want to be hard on them, the Muslims have been fooled, they’ve been lied to, they’ve been deceived, they think they are worshiping the true God but they are worshiping a demon-god, this is according to the New Testament. You may disagree with me but there is no question that this is what Christianity teaches. So it’s fine if you take a different view, that’s fine, you’re entitled to your view, this is America; we have freedom of speech and freedom of thought. But from a Christian stand point, from a New Testament stand point, there’s no question that Muslims are worshiping a demon. Allah is a demon God. Remember Jesus himself believed in the existence of Satan, he took Satan very seriously, Satan is a very real being according to the New Testament, he’s out there, not some kind of shadowy, vague, powerless figure but he is the dark ‘prince of the power of the air,’ as the New Testament describes him, so that’s who Muslims are worshiping.

Bryan Fischer, Right Wing Watch 46 Comments [8/29/2012 3:59:22 AM]
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Quote# 88612

Straight Rights


Thousands of people are mourning the death of Mr Clementi, an 18 year old college student who committed suicide after being taunted about his homosexuality.

I wonder how many people are mourning the deaths of straight people infected with HIV by homosexual men.

Imagine for a moment that you had a twenty eight year old daughter. She is diagnosed with AIDS and tuberculosis and is expected to soon die. Her husband and her two small children, have tested HIV positive. Researching into this, it turns out that when she was 18, your daughter had unprotected sex with an 18 year old boy. That boy unknown to her was HIV positive after having had unprotected anal sex with a man who, unknown to the boy, was HIV positive. Such tragedies can and do happen in America and Europe today.

If we would follow the Torah's commandment to put to death any man who has anal sex with another man, those tradegies could be prevented.

jewish philosopher, Torah Philosophy 68 Comments [8/29/2012 3:52:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Wykked Wytch

Quote# 89239

[CNN] actually tried to justify the 'hate group' label that was placed on the Family Research Council by this anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-Semitic, Marxist organization called the Southern Poverty Law Center, which is just an evil group of people. They actually tried to justify this “hate group” label that they gave FRC.

These people are dangerous, they are evil, and my question is, Glenn [Beck], who are they to have any authority to declare anybody a ‘hate group.’

And remember, they also called Hitler right-wing, as well. I don’t mean SPLC, but people today on the left refer to Hitler as right-wing and compare conservatives to Hitler. Hitler was anything but right-wing. Remember he was National Socialist Party.

Jerry Boykin, Right Wing Watch 61 Comments [8/28/2012 6:19:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Aspergus

Quote# 89234

An official from Missouri’s Republican Party on Monday defended Senate candidate Todd Akin after he suggested abortions should not be allowed in any case because victims of “legitimate” rape victims could not get pregnant.

GOP 4th Senate District Committeewoman Sharon Barnes told The New York Times “that abortion is never an option.”

In an interview with KTVI-TV over the weekend, Akin had said that “the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down,” referring to pregnancy after so-called “legitimate rape.”

Barnes “echoed Mr. Akin’s statement that very few rapes resulted in pregnancy,” according to the Times, and she added that “at that point, if God has chosen to bless this person with a life, you don’t kill it.”

“That’s more what I believe he was trying to state,” she insisted. “He just phrased it badly.”

During an interview with Akin on Monday, Fox News host Mike Huckabee noted that “forcible rapes” had created some “extraordinary people.”

“Ethel Waters, for example, was the result of a forcible rape,” Huckabee pointed out. “I used to work for James Robison back in the 1970s, he leads a large Christian organization. He, himself, was the result of a forcible rape.”

“And so I know it happens, and yet even from those horrible, horrible tragedies of rape, which are inexcusable and indefensible, life has come and sometimes, you know, those people are able to do extraordinary things.”

Sharon Barnes & Mike Huckabee, The RAW Story 54 Comments [8/28/2012 6:17:47 AM]
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Quote# 89233

Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association, a conservative Christian group, said that Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) was "absolutely right" to claim that women cannot become pregnant from "legitimate rape."

The host of the talk radio show Focal Point said that the trauma from a “real, genuine rape, a case of forcible rape” would make it "difficult" for a woman to conceive a child, Right Wing Watch notes.

"There's a very delicate and complex mix of hormones that take place -- that are released -- in a woman's body, and if that gets interfered with, it may make it impossible for her or difficult in that particular circumstance to conceive a child," Fischer said during his show Monday.

"That's all Todd Akin is saying...and he's absolutely right about that," he continued.

Akin came under fire this week after he attempted to justify his extreme anti-abortion stance by arguing that "legitimate rape" does not causing pregnancy.

"From what I understand from doctors, that's really rare," Akin said in an interview with KTVI-TV on Sunday. "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let's assume maybe that didn't work or something. I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist."

According to the New York Times, this is not the first time that this line of reasoning has been used by anti-abortion advocates.

However, leading experts on reproductive health have dismissed this logic as unfounded.

“There are no words for this -- it is just nuts,” said Dr. Michael Greene, a professor of obstetrics, gynecology and reproductive biology at Harvard Medical School.

Dr. David Grimes, a clinical professor in obstetrics and gynecology at the University of North Carolina, told the New York Times that “to suggest that there’s some biological reason why women couldn’t get pregnant during a rape is absurd.”

Bryan Fischer, Huffington Post 42 Comments [8/28/2012 6:15:37 AM]
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Quote# 89232

"This is another case of 'gotcha politics' against a conservative leader. Todd Akin has a long and distinguished record of defending women, children and families. He has fought against forcing taxpayers to subsidize abortion giant Planned Parenthood, which is the bedrock of Claire McCaskill's base of support. When speaking about the issue of rape, let's not forget the cover-up of statutory rape by Planned Parenthood, which to my knowledge has not been addressed by Senator McCaskill.

"Throughout his twelve years in Congress, Todd Akin has supported legislation that honors all human life. He has opposed the commodification of women in contrast to his opponent, Claire McCaskill, who has a long record of promoting the abortion industry while ignoring how abortion harms women. We know Todd Akin, and FRC Action PAC enthusiastically endorses his candidacy," Mackey concluded

Connie Mackie, PR Newswire 21 Comments [8/28/2012 6:15:25 AM]
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Quote# 89230

I am reminded of a story told to me last year about an 11-year-old girl, Kyla, by her mother, Cyndee:

"My daughter, Kyla, who was 11 last year, at the time she was carried into the Spirit by the Lord. It was 3 in the morning and she was up and weeping and told me she had been with Jesus and he had told her some things. A lot was personal for the family but there was something Jesus told her that was amazing. She, to this day, still says Jesus told her, 'I am coming some September.' Now I received this! What it means I don't know for sure, but I will say this, SOMETHING very spectacular is fixing to happen and I am excited and Jesus is in IT!! God also told her that her family, meaning her siblings, and me, her Mother and her Dad, would not die until they all see the coming of the Lord."

If the reference is to the rapture, let us hope it is this September!

Jim Bramlett, fivedoves 60 Comments [8/28/2012 6:09:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Tony

Quote# 89223

[discussing the Global Atheist Convention]

I like the part about basing laws on rational thought and evidence. It echoes a sentiment that is a driving force in the atheist community right now, namely the idea that society must develop a set of moral values that is not rooted in any kind of supernatural belief system. I think it could end up being a really good thing that the leaders of modern atheism are coming together to discuss this, because this is an idea that needs a lot more exploration.

The New Atheists and their brethren in the secular humanist movement like to advocate for a godless value system where acceptance and goodwill toward others are prized, where people are free to be kind and loving out of the goodness of their hearts, and not because some man in the sky tells them to do so. While I appreciate the sentiment behind wanting to add more peace and love to the world, I just don’t think this works. And I can’t help but wonder if that might become clear to others as well at one of these atheist conventions.

The group of GAC attendees will undoubtedly contain a lot of intelligent, free thinking types, and so I’d imagine that it will only be a matter of time before folks start questioning the assumptions behind these ideas. For example: Yes, you can defend a peace- and love-based moral code from a purely atheistic point of view. You can point to the fact that more humans survive when we live in harmony together, that we may have an “altruistic gene” that makes us want to do nice things for others, etc. But who’s to say that harmony and survival for the greatest number of people should be our highest goals? You could just as easily advocate for a values system in which the survival of the fittest is the highest aim, and the weak are considered worthless and expendable. It sounds revolting, and it is. But it’s also perfectly defensible from an atheistic point of view.

I imagine that one day someone will get on the stage at one of these conferences, and propose a new moral code in which the the strong exterminate the weak and take all their possessions for themselves, thus ushering in a glorious age where only the most superior genes remain in the gene pool. Everyone in the crowd will gasp and fidget uncomfortably…and then realize that they cannot argue against it without stepping outside of their own atheist-materialist worldview. They’ll find themselves tempted to appeal to the transcendent to make their case, wanting to have blind faith in the fact that love should be prized above all else, believing that self-sacrifice is always better than selfishness, regardless of what the latest scientific studies say.

I hope that these events really will provide a forum for questioning assumptions and asking tough questions as much as they claim they will. Because when they do, the nearby churches will be flooded with post-convention crowds.

Jennifer Fulwiler, National Catholic Register 50 Comments [8/28/2012 3:55:49 AM]
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Quote# 89220

If there must always be an established religion, what religion is it best to establish? I say Christianity. Not because I am a Christian and think it true, or because its tradents have built the most prosperous, beautiful societies and conquered the world. Christianity does have all those things in its favor, to be sure. But the best practical reason to establish Christianity is that alone among religions it has solved the problem that the cycle of blood sacrifice threatens always to destroy even those societies otherwise most sane. In Christianity alone the logic of sacrifice is turned back on itself: the bloody holocaust of God himself has forever obviated the death either of scapegoats or innocents. Christianity therefore provides the best chance of maintaining a high degree of traditional social order that yet leaves room for creative genius to make its contribution to the endless process of social adaptation to changing circumstances. It offers the best chance at maintaining robust and flexible societies. And only a society that manages to survive has a shot at being good.

Kristor, orthosphere.org 43 Comments [8/28/2012 3:41:55 AM]
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Quote# 89218

I applaud Russian authorities for convicting "Pussy Riot" — the very name suggesting sex and violence — of committing a hate crime against religion. The all girl punk band willfully, maliciously and blasphemously desecrated a Russian Orthodox Church.

Everyone has a right to freedom of expression. This includes those who were attending the religious service in question. These people's rights were obviously denied and violated by the surprise guerrilla invasion. Many of them — especially the older and religiously devout — may actually have been seriously traumatized for life by the devilish antics of these young, radical feminists.

I believe a two year jail sentence is rather harsh for such a crime. I would rather have seen the girls forced to faithfully attend Holy Mass each day followed by an hour of bible school — perhaps for a year. In this way their punishment could be served out in the form of rehabilitation. If the girls were encouraged to understand religion a little more they might actually come to appreciate it more fully. Then their raw and wicked energy could be converted into a more positive and powerful force for good in this world.

Rick Martin, The Baltimore Sun 38 Comments [8/28/2012 3:33:26 AM]
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This sounds familiar

I swear I heard this in 2004 and 2008, but that can't be right.

Quote# 89212

Will Obama Keep Power 'by Any Means Necessary'?

Let's go there: if Obama thinks he's losing, will he allow safe and fair elections on November 6? And if he does lose, will he peacefully turn over power to Mitt Romney on January 20, 2013? Or will he cling to power "by any means necessary," as a highly placed insider alleges?

Now, I'm truly sorry to raise such disgusting, un-American, crazy-sounding questions, but, alas, they're not crazy, and I've got a disquieting amount of evidence. The Democrats have already accused Romney of murdering a woman with cancer, financial felonies, and not filing taxes for ten years -- the last charge delivered by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on the Senate floor, on the basis of absolutely no evidence whatsoever.

By Democrat standards, I've got enough proof to put away Obama, et al. for life without parole.

Whatever chicanery Obama and his investors may be contemplating, it will probably unfold against some gargantuan crisis, manufactured or otherwise.

Stella Paul, American Thinker 31 Comments [8/28/2012 3:31:12 AM]
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