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Quote# 103807

"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools." - Romans 1:22

Indeed, scientists and college professors all SEEM to be wise, right? I mean, they are educated. They're successful. They're rich. Why wouldn't they be smart?

Perhaps it is because of pride. They are so full of themselves that they can't see the truth. The truth that God really did create this whole world, and that they are totally wrong in rejecting him.

I mean, really, if you are so smart, then tell me what the point of living is? To live a brief life of 70 years, and then pass on?

Why bother living an honest, moral life? Why stay faithful to your spouse?

What's the point?

Why not live like there is no tomorrow? Eat, drink, borrow thousands of dollars in credit card loans, and never pay them back. Why not? Who cares?

There's no heaven. No hell. No God. Right?

Brian Price, Value of Truth 61 Comments [9/30/2014 3:19:33 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 103806

The bottom line is this: Whether you "believe it or not" - most prophecies outlined in the Books of Daniel and Revelation have already come true, and there are just a few more to go. According to the Scriptures, life on earth as we know it is about to come to an end - perhaps as soon as between 2017 to 2030. This is evidenced by the fact that Yeshua (Jesus) has so far fulfilled the first FOUR of the SEVEN Biblical Feasts - and the last three will be fulfilled almost simultaneously.

Carmen, The Refiner's Fire 25 Comments [9/30/2014 3:19:01 AM]
Fundie Index: 10
Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 103805

There’s no denying the fact that God intentionally withholds information from us. Instead of defending specific decisions, He justifies all of His behavior with the general claim that He is good and perfect and does all things well. God operates on a “the ends justifies the means” basis, and He is the only One authorized to do so. Human beings are not allowed to operate by this principle—if we attempt to do wrong to do right, we are held morally accountable for the wrong. We are bound to the laws God makes, while He is bound by nothing and does whatever He pleases. Where then is our assurance that God won’t run amuck and cross some inappropriate line? God’s perfect character is the only guarantee He offers. Because God is good, everything He does and allows is good by definition.

We might not like the way God operates, but we can’t do anything to change it. Being close to God requires absolute submission to His authority and that means accepting all of His decisions. God is quite clear in the Bible that He constantly does wrong to do right. During the graphic fall of Jerusalem, He called a sadistic army in to rape, torture and kill His chosen people and then He declared the whole thing to be a display of righteous judgment. We struggle with this because we don’t see any positive outcome, we only see the horror in the moment. Yet when we read about another Man getting publicly degraded and tortured to death, tears of gratitude well in our eyes for we know His death brought about the salvation of the entire human race. The cross is rare in that it is one case in which God really gives us a bigger glimpse of the good end result of His using evil. As much as we hate the suffering Jesus had to endure, we would never wish it away for it was that very suffering which saved us. When we compare the suffering of the cross to the good that came out of it, it’s obvious which is greater. And so it is every time God employs evil methods in this world: the final resulting good is exponentially greater. At some point, we must take His word for this.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 33 Comments [9/30/2014 3:18:44 AM]
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Quote# 103804

We have two choices, Christians. We can either persist in this game of denial and deceive ourselves into thinking that we are being loyal to God by refusing to acknowledge His involvement in evil, or we can ask the Spirit to remove the scales of fear from our eyes and help us to face the intimidating truth which is clearly laid out in His Word. By His own choice, God cannot be theologically separated from evil, pain, suffering, torture, sadism, and every other hideous thing we come across down here. The same God who meticulously designed the eternal torments of Hell is standing right there when little girls are sold into sex slavery and He is the One who approves of their captors greatly profiting from their heinous crimes. Likewise, He opens the wombs of those who He knows will abuse and torture their children, while He strikes barren those who would lovingly care for them. No evil is hidden from God’s eyes down here. He not only sees everything we do to each other, He is standing right beside us as we’re doing it, carefully monitoring and limiting the activities of both abuser and victim. Such pictures deeply disturb us. We believe that if we accept the truth about God’s association with evil, we will have the reality of our loving God torn away from us. THIS IS A LIE. The more we accept God’s Truth without modifying it to suit our human needs, the more confident we will become in His love for ALL people, regardless of the horrors He puts them through. God IS good. He does do ALL things well. There is an ocean of comfort and peace to be found in these truths, but we will never unlock it until we are willing to let GOD define who He is and accept His intimate involvement in this world that He made.

Are you ready to go to the next level with God? Will you let Him stretch the boundaries of your theology yet again so that your understanding of Him might become that much more accurate? If we want to really know God, we must stop denying the clear picture He has given us in His Word of His intimate involvement with evil. God and evil are truly inseparable, yet His Character remains totally perfect, righteous and holy. Ask the Holy Spirit to help you better understand this most critical issue. Intimacy with God can only be acquired by the total acceptance of HIS Truth.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 30 Comments [9/30/2014 3:17:42 AM]
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Quote# 103803

if it is against the law to be a christian then my hope is that my light is strong enough to be arrested. i work at being a christian. i do not work at being persecuted nor do i think my self a victim. the true victims of this life are people who have been blinded and through 'world' propaganda either will not see or can not see. Jesus will knock at the door and if you open it a new life will begin. very simple!!!

caronaoutgloria2, Alternet 28 Comments [9/30/2014 3:17:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Lola Flores

Quote# 103795

Researchers have discovered that the hydrogen canopy that may have enclosed Earth before the Flood had some very interesting effects on plant and animal life. The hydrogen in the canopy absorbed blue light, but radiated red light, so the sky was pink rather than blue! Not only did pre-Flood man see the panorama of Creation “through rose-colored glasses,” but the pink light had a definite effect on his mind and body. Modern scientists have discovered that pink light stimulates the adrenal glands to secrete a hormone called norepinephrine. Norepinephrine is both a tranquilliser and a neurotransmitter that both calms the person and sharpens his ability to think. The tranquilliser in the hormone can reduce stress and the accompanying medical complications (heart conditions, ulcers, etc) that come with our-hectic, modern-day lifestyles. Some drugs have the same tranquillising effect, but these drugs also decrease the ability to think and respond to the environment. The neurotransmitter in the norepinephrine sharpens the person’s senses and enables him to think clearly by speeding up his nervous impulses.

Metal hydrogen not only filters blue light, but it also has a fiberoptic effects. This means that light from the sun was not only transmitted through the canopy, but was also spread out across the canopy. The light was dispersed around the world – even at night! At sunrise the sky was a vivid pink color. As the colour of the sky changed, the light grew in intensity throughout the morning, until it was a light pink at noon. As the light subsided during the afternoon, the color of the sky returned to vivid pink again at sunset.

The pink colour and the light dispersion worked together to create a perfect working condition. The pink morning sky caused the norepinephrine to begin flowing and stimulating the man to work. At noon, when the pink light and the norepinephrine production were at their peak, the man worked most efficiently. The decreasing intensity of the pink light in the afternoon gradually calmed the person so that by sunset he was relaxed and ready for a peaceful night’s sleep.

Modern scientists are just now discovering what Christians have always believed – that God’s Creation was perfect.

For more information on the subject of Creation model, you might like to read the book Panorama of Creation by Dr Carl Baugh. You might also want to read some of the numerous books on Creation written by Dr Henry M Morris or other contemporary Christian scientists.

ACE (Accelerated Christian Education), The Guardian 36 Comments [9/30/2014 3:03:12 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 103794

Scientists have known for years that snowflakes are shaped in six-sided, or hexagonal, patterns. But why is this? Some scientists have theorised that the electrons within a water molecule follow three orbital paths that are positioned at 60° angles to one another. Since a circle contains 360°, this electronic relationship causes the water molecule to have six ‘spokes’ radiating from a hub (the nucleus). When water vapour freezes in the air, many water molecules link up to form the distinctive six-sided snowflakes and the hexagonal pattern is quite evident.

Snowflakes also contain small air pockets between their spokes. These air pockets have a higher oxygen content than does normal air. Magnetism has a stronger attraction for oxygen than for other gases. Consequently, some scientists have concluded that a relationship exists between a snowflake’s attraction to oxygen and magnetism’s attraction to oxygen.

Job 38:22, 23 states, ‘Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail, which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war?’ Considering this scripture, some scientists believe that a tremendous power resides untapped within the water molecules from which snowflakes and hailstones are made.

How can this scripture, along with these observations about snowflakes, show us a physical truth? Scientists at Virginia Tech have produced electricity more efficiently from permanent magnets, which have their lines of force related to each other at sixty-degree angles, than from previous methods of extracting electricity from magnetism. Other research along this line may reveal a way to tap electric current directly from snow, eliminating the need for costly, heavy, and complex equipment now needed to generate electricity.

ACE (Accelerated Christian Education), The Guardian 26 Comments [9/30/2014 3:03:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

Quote# 103750

Ian Tattersall on Stephen Jay Gould: "He was a tireless combatant against racism in any form, and if he was guilty of the kind of unconscious bias in science that he warned against, at least his bias was on the side of the angels."

The reason this kind of rhetoric is effective is that the angels' official representatives on Earth agree.

They are signed up with the whole anti-white agenda, including genocide. They don't say much about it when white communities fall into darkness forever. They are OK with lying in this cause. The misrepresentation and outright faking of science, the slandering of those who tell the truth and warn of real danger, including the immediate danger of deception - it is all good with them. It is all "on the side of the angels".

Daybreaker, Charlton Teaching 15 Comments [9/30/2014 3:01:36 AM]
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Quote# 103553

(Thread on Europa Universalis IV forum "Do any religious people play this game?")

I m preety religious miself(orthodox) and yes sometimes I feel offended,but not by the game,rather by the paradox forum community.

Lots of communists,anarchists and hard core atheists,who like bashing christianity(and only christian religion maybe because of PC) and are very few times sanctioned by the moderator.

AndreiTLC, Paradox Plaza 10 Comments [9/30/2014 2:58:55 AM]
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Submitted By: TimeToTurn

Quote# 103505

mopusvindictus is right but people's minds are too soft for truth.

Gay males = gross when you get down to it. But also, women will get up to some sick stuff as well, as has been mentioned. Body fluids and ejecta will always fascinate people and yes, extremeism is a goal in itself for both men and women.

I am completely in love with the idea of a temple arrangement where men can go and observe a female orgy. Why not? Sounds delightful, and also it allows men to get aroused by female bodies and to gain a desire for what is right (as opposed to males who get preyed upon by other males and then have no ROUTE to learn about females!) ...There is a lot of sexual vampirism in gay male society, more than other dynamics I'd say. But this force which aligns males toward males is defused and rendered less powerful when female sexuality is openly displayed and available to such men. I think a lot of gay males wish women weren't such bitches, which society DOES encourage them toward being.

We are all hurting each other, in truth, but I believe more gay males would convert to the winning team if they could just have an environment where they could get close to the yumminess of the female. Since they get punked and played by this modern-day female, it's no shock that they hook up to feel emotionally loved. Women are not easy to understand sometimes and these men feel overwhlemed with emotions but have no outlet because the females are similarly emotionally stunted like everyone in today's world.

As for lipstick lesbians, I am all for it. Without lipstick: That's fine too.

smallpeeps, Above Top Secret 26 Comments [9/30/2014 2:58:23 AM]
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Quote# 103454

As I watched the speech last night, Sean, the thought going through my mind is, 'I owe America a global apology. Because John McCain, through all of this, John McCain should be our president.'

Sarah Palin, Huffington Post 20 Comments [9/30/2014 2:57:44 AM]
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Submitted By: Doubting Thomas

Quote# 103422

[re: Nicholas Cage in new Left Behind movie]

Also, Cage is not a Christian actor by any stretch. He is a disgusting occultist who wants to be buried in a pyramid. Ghost Rider was one of the most satanic films in recent history and he starred in both of them, portraying a demonic creature collecting unsaved souls to send to hell.

His4Life, FSTDT 31 Comments [9/30/2014 2:57:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Night Jaguar

Quote# 103369

It might be important if evolution was a known fact, but it is still just a theory. Carbon dating isn't very accurate either. People who want to believe the earth is very very old and that God doesn't exist, want to believe that evolution is a fact and that carbon dating is actually accurate

Luanne, The Well-Trained Mind 28 Comments [9/30/2014 2:54:06 AM]
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Quote# 103791

(A review to the book Drunk With Blood: God's killings in the Bible)

You judge from your limited observation. God's killings are actually acts of grace. If He had not killed all living creatures except Noah, the earth would have been hell, because of the hybrid- people - half fallen angel- half human being that satan had poluted and filled the earth with. KILLING THEM saved God's plan and the uncontaminated human race by one man: Noah. For only Noah was perfect in his generations - UNCONTAMINATED BY SATAN'S SEED!

And as Jesus foretold that the last days were going to be as the days of Noah - meaning: the human race would again be polluted - they are experimenting now with animal DNA in human bodies etc.

God had a choice: Either destroy the whole earth and everone, because satan had corrupted all living matter, including Noah and the animals God led to the Ark. Simply to start all over. He had done that once already: Because the earth was not made void when God created the heaven and the earth. NO IT BECAME VOID, when satan and 1/3 of the angels who followed the archangel Lucifer in his rebellion battled God's angels. The creation account from Genesis 1: 2c is actually a SECOND CREATION!

God - in His incredible grace did not want to kill the only perfect seed left (Gen. 6:9) - so He spared the earth and a sample of all animals for the sake of one man!

THIS IS GRACE! But you look at all the hybrid humans God killed. This killing does not make God cruel at all. But rather the very opposite of a cruel genocidal murdered. The bad guy was satan who contaminated all human seed.

The reason for satan doing this was the curse over him, the prophecy God had given Eve after sinning: "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." (Genesis 3:15)

Satan figured that the only way he could prevent this - his total destruction and defeat - from ever coming true was to prevent the developping of that seed! This is what he did by contaminated the human seed with his seed. God could never fulfill His plan of salvation, which this verse speaks of and is God's promise right after the all of men. That seed God promised in Genesis 3:15 is Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God!

So, you see God's grace in the absolute necessaity of killing all flesh with the exception of Noah!

As for the other killings by God, similar explanations can be given. God kills to redeem! God ALWAYS LOOKS AT THE BIGGER PICTURE, THE GREATER PURPOSE.

Satan murders out of hatred, as we were created in the image of God. Satan hates God and therefore satan hates us. He knows God loves us, so that murdering people is the way to hurt God.

I stand in awe of God, when I consider this! His infinite wisdom!

Knowing this, I consider all these accusations of people of God for His killings such folly. They have no idea. But they have such a big mouth...these created beings against their Maker!

In addition: God's grace is also visible in the fact that sin resulted in death! Sin brought death into the earth!

Death is an act of grace by God for if God had allowed men to live for ever, this earth would have been hell! It would have meant sin would have been perpetual.

Thank God all men die since sin came into the world by Adam and Eve.

God's plan from the beginning was to create men to be with Him for ever! But since men chose to disobey Him, and sin - go their own way, do their own thing - God had to make the penalty of sin: DEATH! For He can not allow sin to exist for ever!

This proves God's unlimited wisdom, and also His LOVE!

In the end death will be thrown into the Lake that Burns with Fire and Brimstone! (Rev. 21:8)

On top of this: He provided the sacrifice in His very own only begotten Son of God to die for us, paying the penalty for our sin, so by His resurrection from the dead, He overcame death and opened the way for us to be reconciled with God, to be forgiven and to be free from the penalty of sin, the second death (Rev. 21:8) and live with Him for ever, as He had intended from the beginning! All we have to do now I call upon Him, repent of our sins, our unbelief, our rejection of Him, our going our own way, and ask His forgiveness and that He makes us His child, lets us be born -again, and destroys the plan of satan with our lives and releases His plan for our lives, and teaches us to walk with Him, commune with Him - for He is not dead, but He is alive and wants to have fellowship with us. For ever! John 1:12,13; John 3. John 14:6. Acts 2:38; Acts 4:12. 2 Corinthians 5: 17; Galations 6:15; etc.

dutchlionfrans "Frans", Amazon 43 Comments [9/29/2014 3:19:14 AM]
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Submitted By: ConcernedCultist

Quote# 103790

For the apologists of Islamic Jihadists. A little history lesson to keep in mind when next you wish to point out the problems within Christianity as an illustration of other "bad" religions.

Hitler was NOT a Christian. He was affiliated with Romanism but loved pagan religion especially the Thule society. And he was a left wing socialist, not the prime example of "right wing extremism"

The Oklahoma bomber was NOT a Christian. He was a left wing progressive who hated the Bible.

Jim Jones was a minister in a left wing denomination but was NOT a Christian but rather a Bible hating social justice advocate.

The Crusades were NOT an example of aggressive and violent Christianity but were one false religion (Roman Catholicism) at war with another false religion (Islam).

Hope that helps

Glenn Christopherson, Facebook 47 Comments [9/29/2014 3:18:56 AM]
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Quote# 103784

We are to be separated in our lifestyles. We should not go to taverns, nightclubs, and other heathen establishments. No Christian should ever spend a dime at Disney World, most of their movies are no better than Hollywood's vomit. We should not support sinful things produced by the Godless world. We are surrounded by Satan. Television is Hellivision. TV is very bad nowadays. I really hate television. The technology is not sinful, but the way mankind uses it certainly is. Technology simply allows mankind to go further down the road he was already traveling on... and it's the road to Hell.

Here's a song that my pastor taught us to sing...

(Sang to the tune of, "If You're Happy and You Know It")

Oh be careful little feet where you go,
Oh be careful little feet where you go,
For the Father up above is looking down in love,
Oh be careful little feet where you go.

Oh be careful little eyes what you see,
Oh be careful little eyes what you see,
For the Father up above is looking down in love,
Oh be careful little eyes what you see.

Oh be careful little ears what you hear,
Oh be careful little ears what you hear,
For the Father up above is looking down in love,
Oh be careful little ears what you hear.

And so on...

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 48 Comments [9/29/2014 3:09:19 AM]
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Quote# 103781

So being exposed to actual people of different races, and being afforded more opportunity to form friendships and relationships with people of different races, actually makes kids less likely to have cross-racial interaction. To know them (members of other races) is to prefer to avoid them, seems to be the motto of children.

Kids are natural segregationists. Jesus commands us to be like children.

By the transitive property, Jesus commands unto us to be segregationists.

Notice that one of us is able to express thoughts clearly and succinctly. The other one is very wordy.

Mindweapon, Women in Theology 29 Comments [9/29/2014 3:08:16 AM]
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Quote# 103779

Once you get past our gallant past and the promise of our divinely inspired Constitution, what do you see? What I see are a million abortions a year. I see the foolishness of same-sex marriages, and I see states tripping over themselves in their rush to legalize brain-deadening drugs. I see the filth and decadence of our popular culture. I see journalists who have rejected objectivity and assumed the role of propagandists for the left. I see our leaders promoting a racial divide that ignores black violence, black illegitimacy rates and the morphing of black thugs into Muslim terrorists, while accusing the entire white race of bigotry.

Burt Prelutsky, WND 23 Comments [9/29/2014 3:07:05 AM]
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Quote# 103778

The Lord showed me a church, I saw a preacher who was preaching at the altar and suddenly his mobile phone rang. This preacher stopped preaching, and went out to attend to his mobile phone. The Lord said, “Can you see how they ignore My presence, see how they ignore My presence, when a man is preaching, he is preaching My word. They prefer to attend to a mobile phone than attending to Me.” ... “Talk, talk to the Pastors to forget about their own doctrine, they can hate you if they want, but a lot of people will understand the purpose why I brought you here and a lot of people will repent.”

Adelaida De Carrillo, Divine Revelations 23 Comments [9/29/2014 3:06:52 AM]
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Submitted By: denizen

Quote# 103774

I think we're all ignoring the economic roots of this problem. All of these men have college loans, some near $100,000: without these loans, they can't go to school, something society has taught them they must do, but under that sort of debt, most can't get a good start in the job market. Add into this mixture the fact that the 19-27 demographic has an unemployment rate of something in the vicinity of 20 per cent in the United States, and you're looking at an entire generation who are not being allowed to move out of their parents' house unless they're willing to sleep on a park bench under a ceiling of cardboard. Frankly, it's not our fault and it's not our failure - many of us have already succeeded greatly, but our success means nothing because it is not producing any financial gain. I say "us" because I'm in this demographic, working a minimum-wage job for under 30 hours a week and struggling to survive.

While I will not dispute that the Baby Boomers have failed, their failures as human beings and members of the national community are far greater than their failures as parents. People born between 1945 and 1965 have destroyed the entire Western world, and now refuse to move out of the way so that we can fix it. We see a Negro elected president, the realisation of their dreams, and in a bad economy they refuse to retire and make space for the rising generation -- a generation which must bear a far greater burden than any of them, greedy, selfish, and solipsistic, have ever had to bear.

Magister Eckhart, The Apricity 31 Comments [9/28/2014 7:30:11 AM]
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Quote# 103772

Of course, we ALL break [the laws of God] and being a homosexual doesn't make a man a sinner any more or less than being a gossip. Both crimes deserve the death penalty, and only the one who relies on the righteousness of Christ can escape it.

Chris Johnson, American Decency 30 Comments [9/28/2014 7:28:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Zagen30

Quote# 103768

(refering to the Washington Redskins losing their trademark)

It’s all a ploy by the Progressives to see how much insane power and control they can exercise over the citizens by oppressing us from all sides... just because they can.

After they take down all the teams for “racial reasons,” they will be free to attack the "terrorist sounding teams” like the Texas Rangers and the New England Patriots. After that will be the animals, birds and fish names.

Can you feel the tire tracks on your back yet? Government Gone Wild!

Homesick777, rapture ready 34 Comments [9/28/2014 7:24:35 AM]
Fundie Index: 21

Quote# 103761

GA-RANKUWA - Pastor Lesego Daniel of Rabboni Centre Ministries, infamous for making his congregation eat grass, has struck again.

He now claims his congregation drinks petrol, saying it tastes 'sweet'.

In YouTube footage, members of his congregation are seen clamouring desperately to have a drink of the petrol as the pastor preaches and encourages them.

Members of the church exclaim how "sweet" and "nice" it tastes, comparing it to "Iron Brew" and "pineapple juice".

A couple of them beg the pastor to "please give us some more".

Pastor Lesego Daniel, eNews Channel Africa 35 Comments [9/28/2014 7:20:53 AM]
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Quote# 103760

Passengers aboard an El Al flight from New York's JKF airport to Israel claim that hundreds of ultra-Orthodox passengers demanded that they trade places with them before takeoff, saying they cannot sit next to women.

"It was an 11-hour long nightmare," one of the passengers summed up her experience.

Wednesday morning, the eve of Rosh Hashanah, thousands of Israeli and Jewish passengers landed in Israel, including scores of ultra-Orthodox Jews who decided to celebrate the Jewish New Year in the Holy Land.

However, things didn't go so smoothly on one El Al flight carrying a large group of haredim, as well as secular Jews, that departed from New York's JFK and landed in Israel at 5 am Wednesday.

According to the passengers who were on the plane, their fellow ultra-Orthodox travelers refused to sit next to women prior to the takeoff, which not only delayed the flight, but caused actual chaos to ensue on the plane.

"People stood in the aisles and refused to go forward," said Amit Ben-Natan, a passenger who was on board the plane.

"Although everyone had tickets with seat numbers that they purchased in advance, they asked us to trade seats with them, and even offered to pay money, since they cannot sit next to a woman. It was obvious that the plane won't take off as long as they keep standing in the aisles."

Passengers claimed that though the El Al flight crew informed them they do not have to agree to a switch, the flight's captain said over the PA system that the flight would not take off as long as people were standing.

"This is completely inconsiderate of the non-haredi travelers. I don't know many airlines that would allow their passengers to act like that," said Bar Natan.

Galit, another traveler on the flight, said the ultra-orthodox passengers suggested she and her spouse split up to better accommodate their desired seating arrangements: "Why should I agree to switch places?" she said with anger.

After she refused, the haredi man seated next to her conceded, but it was only temporary: "I ended up sitting next to a haredi man who jumped out of his seat the moment we had finished taking off and proceeded to stand in the isle."

It seems that after takeoff a large portion of the haredi travelers took to the isles to pray which, according to their fellow travelers, crowded the isles and caused the flight to be unbearable.

"I went to the bathroom and it was a mission impossible, the noise was endless," Galit said.

In response, El Al promised to look into the issue, saying "El Al does everything it can to give its passengers the best possible service year-round. These days bring with them a peak in air traffic to Israel, and our crews on the ground and in the air are doing the best they can to address the needs and requests of all our travelers while trying not to fall behind schedule.

"The company will examine the complaints and if some passengers are found to have acted out of line the company will examine its future steps."

Ultra-Orthodox Jews, Ynet News 38 Comments [9/28/2014 7:20:04 AM]
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Submitted By: Naturalistic Worldview

Quote# 103759

Did King Saul of ancient Israel set up the present Islamic State crisis by not eliminating the Amalekites as God directed?

TerryH, Conservapedia 43 Comments [9/28/2014 7:19:55 AM]
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