[From the article "French resistance"; redirections include "Allied forces in France" and, formerly, "Terrorist conspiracy against the French State"]
The French resistance refers to the bands of mostly communist terrorists and non-French ethnic minorities (Jews, Armenians, etc) in France during World War II who conspired against the legal government of France , (which had relocated from Paris to Bordeaux and then Vichy ) as well as the Military Administration in France , an interim authority governed by National Socialist Germany following the conclusion of the Battle of France and the Armistice requested by the French Government in 1940.
The best known of the terrorist groups were those who from 1942 onwards became increasingly serviced by the London offices of the renegade Charles de Gaulle , who, supported by crime figures such as Guy de Rothschild and the intelligence services of the British Empire , conspired to undermine the Franco-German armistice signed by Maréchal Philippe Pétain .
Aside from the factional and small Gaullist forces, who operated almost completely in the 'occupied' zone, there were also some openly terrorist elements. One of the best known of the latter organisations was the Francs-Tireurs et Partisans French Communist Party . Many of their members were Jews and other foreigners. The National Council of the Resistance was the coordinating body between these various groups. There were some elements who while supporting the French State based at Vichy were hostile to the German administration in the occupied zone for nationalist reasons. The latter group included figures such as François de La Rocque and Charles Maurras .
image communist Jews and foreign terrorists who claimed to be "French liberators"
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It's true that some poor slobs were killed for being collaborators simply because they felt a duty to keep the lights on and the phones and trolleys running. The French have a long history of getting carried away, just ask Madam LaFarge, or Jean D'Arc.
That said, why wouldn't the Jews and every other group that the Nazis were trying to exterminate pitch in? In what possible context would that be unexpected, and why would anyone have a problem with that? It's called, aligned self-interest.
The French resistance refers to the bands of mostly communist terrorists and non-French ethnic minorities (Jews, Armenians, etc)
Below are the true Frenchmen Metapedia is rather fond of:
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And other ones:
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And aren't Armenians "Aryans"?
Chuck Yeager helped the Resistance, after he was shot down in France.
I dare you to say to his face that he was a 'terrorist'.
I daresay he'd have the entirety of the US Air Force behind him, so good luck in arguing the toss in this instance.
It's such a weird, minor point: Can anyone be foreign in any real context, especially as a religion? Christians are foreigners in the lands of Gaulish pagans. Romans were foreigners too but now their corrupted language is the national tongue. How are Jews in any sense different from Christians and Romans?
@checkmate
'Allo, 'Allo!
(A few of our Brits here might get the joke.)
Good Moaning!
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@Shepard Solus
(*In an outrageous French accent *)
Leesen verre caerfullee, ai shell sey zees eaunly weunce!
Do you have The Fallen Madonna With The Big Boobies by Van Klomp?
Lt. Gruber: 'No, it's just the way I walk!'
What a meestake-a to make-a?!
X3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Allo_%27Allo!
You know, I'm taking a class on the Holocaust right now, so I have even less patience than normal for this shit. How do you say "Go fuck your self, asshole" in French?
Actually in many of the Eastern European countries you had separate partisan movements - usually one Communist, one nationalist or royalist, and sometimes a separate Jewish resistance - and they sometimes "resisted" each other just as strongly as they did the Nazis.
As far as I'm aware, however, this was not the case in France.
@ Jamaican Castle
AFAIK, there were communist, gaullist and independent Resistance networks. Quite a few communist networks only sprung up after the Reich invaded USSR. The networks mostly did not compete, at least until France began to be liberated.
non-French ethnic minorities (Jews, Armenians, etc)
Right. And what, pray tell, is an ethnic French? My family has been French for about a millenium, but go far enough and they will be Norse. The other half of the family seems to stem from the south of France, even though the family name is a bit hard to track (quite a few by that name in the North of France).
I take exception to morons who would gladly lick nazi arses calling themselves patriots or even French. When you would gladly live under nazi rule, you are not worthy of being French. You are barely worth the rope to hang you. Too bad we missed those during the Liberation. They would have made nice tree decoration.
@Indicible : Well, now I know that. I suppose that (like most people in the English-speaking world, I suspect) I'd mostly heard of the French Resistance in conjunction with British intelligence and counter-intelligence, which left me with the impression that it was more unified than most partisan groups.
@ Jamaican Castle
Well, I would say one of the reasons French Resistance looked united is because they had a coordinating "institution" (Conseil National de la Résistance), which served as a forum and a way to, indeed, avoid competition between networks. It also served as an organ preparing the transition after the fall of Vichy (they had a government program ready, which pretty much all parties agreed on at the Liberation.).
The thing is, in France too, we are also mostly taught about "la Résistance", without any nuance (except for History majors, of course). The reality is a bit more complicated, but it is mostly accurate, since all networks had a common goal and did not fight among themselves.
I am not a History major myself, but WW2 was a defining moment in my family's history on both sides of the family tree (with both grandfathers PoWs and family members living and dying in poverty), so we have an incentive in propagating that history and hoping never to see this sh*t again.
@Louis Marschalko
"My country has been beaten and they are calling me back to make peace and sign an armistice...This is the work of 30 years of Marxism. They're calling me back to take charge of the nation."
Remarks to Francisco Franco in Madrid, Spain (c. 17 May 1940)
Another of him: "The new regime will be a social hierarchy. It will no longer be based on the false idea of man's natural equality but on the necessary idea of the equality of opportunities given to all Frenchmen to prove their ability to serve."
Radio speech made on October 11th, 1940.
So true! Marshal Petain represented the spirit of the Revolution, expressed by the concept of, "careers open to talent", in contrast to the false Marxist concept of the absolute equality of Man. They employ that falsehood to create discontent among the People, in contrast to the National Unity represented by "Work, Family, Country".
@ Indicible
Right. And what, pray tell, is an ethnic French?
The best answer ever made to this was by Pierre Dac in his 1944 BBC commentary "Bagatelles sur un tombeau." I never tire of hearing or reading it.
@ Louis Marschalko
Pétain spat on the Third Republic, forgetting that it was that same Republic that elevated him to the rank of war hero. That old deluded fool did not dance at the end of a rope, and to me, that was a missed occasion.
He represented the Ancien Régime with its authoritarian government and its reliance on old constituencies, particularly the Catholic Church. The Revolution gave us human rights, Vichy trampled them. Unless, of course, by Revolution, you only mean la Terreur , in which case, you only stand for autocracy and dictatorship. Thanks you for identifying yourself as the enemy, then.
@Louis Chalkymarsbar
Marshal Petain represented the spirit of the Revolution, expressed by the concept of, "careers open to talent", in contrast to the false Marxist concept of the absolute equality of Man
Yeah, well, the likes of Jacques Cousteau put paid to that, with his invention: SCUBA.
The Royal Navy's use of such - as well as sailors of the Free French Navy - against the Kriegsmarine ensured his talent became a career in TV with his smash hit "Undersea World" series, with his revolutionary invention (and more) in a post-war world free to explore the vast uncharted regions: by anyone .
All are equal in the sea.
Hull's own connection with the sea; it's maritime history. It features in our culture, as we're City of that in 2017.
Here in the very much Social Democratic Glorious Peoples' Socialist Republic of Kingston-upon-Hull.
Marshal Putain's puppeteer did his worst against us in WWII. We're still here.
Therefore you & your way of thinking FAILS eternally.
Now you go back to watching "The Man in the High Castle" little boy, the adults are talking. If you watch it enough times it may become a documentary. [/Doug Piranha-levels of sarcasm]
But not today.
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