Yeah, OK, let's assume that a woman can rape a man. The charge of rape is usually brought only if she is an adult and he is under age. But remember, if they are both adults rape is an act that, if properly completed, REQUIRES the cooperation of the man. If somebody is actually threatening your life with violence, I wouldn't think you could actually get it up while in a state of fear.
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I wouldn't consider this 'fundie', and I even sort of agree with Kanna in that I can't imagine someone getting it up in a state of fear.
However, just because I can't imagine it doesn't mean it can't happen. People in extreme situations often have extreme reactions, and it's quite possible to be involuntarily turned on.
Firstly,yes you can get an erection from fear or pain, with or without desiring to. Not that it matters. Physical arousal is not equivalent to informed consent.
You know that women have fingers and can use them to invade an unwilling man, right?
A dildo can work, too.
I don't understand why this is such a hard concept for some people.
Also, the body responds to physical stimuli, and in an excited state (such as being afraid) it can be even worse . The human body isn't necessarily on your side.
But remember, if they are both adults rape is an act that, if properly completed, REQUIRES the cooperation of the man
Remember: if a man is screaming whilst his soon to be ex -wife is cutting his cock off with a large & extremely sharp knife, he means 'Yes'. [/Lorena Bobbitt]
See how that works, Kan't-a? You too, He Who Must Not Be Named?
@Zachski
A dildo can work, too
Also, Strapons.
With Naga Chilli sauce as lube.
See how that works II, Kan't-a?
Woman-on-man-rape is even more under-reported than man-on-woman-rape. Men who are raped have to face the double humiliation of being violated and of being ridiculed for being violated by a woman, if they report it. If you're a young boy, it's more "acceptable" to have been overpowered by a woman who's an adult.
Naive, yes. Missing the point, yes, but fundy? No.
I feel it's bad practice to turn against our own like this when they say something misguided, after all that's why commenters reply to other commenters. Surely that's the way comments should be handled on FSTDT? If they exist as comments, they will often receive comments in reply.
Female on male rape is largely a MRA nonsense talking point. Literally "what about teh menz?".
Most cases of female on male rape are actually consenual sex between an adult female and a male child. Those "Thirty five year old teacher has sex with twelve year old boy!" type stories that you see on the news.
Yes there are actual cases where an adult female has violently raped a male but they are very, very, very rare.
But generally when somebody brings it up they are just trying to muddy the waters.
@2010547:
one you pedophile apologist a 12 year old child cannot consent to sex.
two you misandrist troll. society at large is yet to seriously study the rate of men being victimized this way due to social attitudes. But seen as men are not monsters, women are not saints I suspect that much like with domestic violence the stats are not going to paint a very lopsided picture. after all, men reported being made to penetrate at the same rate women reported being raped in a 12 month period.
and how exactly would allowing victims to receive sympathy and perpetrators to be condemned muddy the waters? maybe because it would mean sympathy for men and condemnation for women?
Mea culpa, gang. You're right, very naive. I've never lived in an abusive relationship. And I've seen far too many men that played the "women rape too" card when what they really mean was "she turned off the TV and dragged me to bed", and try to compare that to the physically violent rape (and possible murder) of a woman by a stranger. I was reacting to that mental scenario.
Sorry!
@Kanna
Glad to see you can accept when you made a mistake and are willing to correct yourself. Still, I feel it's an important point to emphasize - little bits of semantics, like whether or not a guy being raped gets an erection from his predicament or not, ultimately mean jack. What matters is the simple fact that someone, regardless of gender, is attempting to traumatically sexually assault another human being.
@#2010547
It would be a good idea to follow Kanna's example.
It wouldn't kill you to admit you're wrong .
All that's destroyed is your 'Pride'. And your unjustifiable way of thinking .
> @2010436 Citizen Justin
Yup, from what I understand from doctors, that's really rare. If it's a legitimate rape, the male body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. Those damn shrieking SJWs are once again trying to censor the Biological Truth, just as they did with Todd Akin.
@ 2010547
Would you say that a 35 year old male teacher having 'consensual' sex with a 12 year old female student isn't rape? I'm not surprised you posted this without a username, we have a literal, unabashed pedophile rape apologist here.
As for the OP, I've heard this argument before and it's an incredibly dangerous myth, which I honestly find as offensive as any MRA rape apologetic. It's exactly the type of disgusting and reprehensible victim-blaming that the feminist movement has been fighting against for decades in terms of the rape of marginalized people.. It's very easy to give a man an involuntary erection, unless he has erectile dysfunction, especially with the heightened adrenaline. This is much like the female erectile response. Women can also show signs of sexual arousal during rape, and that's used as a rape defense too (and equally wrongheaded).
Shall we break down the problems?
1. Men can become physically aroused from a variety of stimuli. It's possible to get an errection from the need to take a piss.
2. Men require less stimulation than women to become physically aroused. Usually it only requires some physical stimuli and they are able to sustain an errection regardless of outside factors.
3. This comes frighteningly close to the idea that "if you're physically aroused, it's not really rape" which has been used against women, and shoe on the other foot is just as wrong.
You can have sex with a flaccid member. I know from first-hand experience. So obviously, one could rape a cis man with a flaccid member as well. Rape is about pleasure acquired from power, not mutual pleasure
If a man assaults another man with a broom handle in service to the attacker's sexual gratification, is it rape? Unless your answer to that question is 'no' then of course women can rape men. Penis in vagina isn't the only kind of sex and it isn't the only avenue for rape.
@ Kanna: We're all going to get quoted here eventually.
Woman-on-man rape is rare, and even more rarely reported. Still, it does exist, on various variants, and none of those variants is acceptable.
Go look into stories of Female on Adult Male rape. Be horrified. Don't come back.
I've known a victim. He avoids the subject as hard as he can.
Fuck off... just fuck off.
Edit:
As usual, didn't read the comments. Forgiven. Just a bit of a sore spot considering the aforementioned person is someone very close.
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