I would still want abortion because it's too cool to pass up, and you won't have to raise the baby.
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The issue is that the best reason for abortion you come up with is your laziness. That's just an amazingly ignorant thing to say. There are women who want to abort because they were raped. There are women who have to make the decision if they want to give birth to a child which will live in pain due to a sickness/disability or abort. Don't you think it's insulting to those people if they read you say: "oh, abortion is cool, you don't have to raise the child" That's not the point of an abortion. People don't do it for fun. You understand?
@someape
I get your point and I was saying that there are good reasons for abortion. I'm just pointing out that my favorite thing about abortion is that it pisses off Christians and the end result looks cool. And that's before the prospect of trying to raise a kid in a post-globalization Trump dictatorship.
I'm surprised people don't do it more often. Abortion is the most merciful (and entertaining) option.
Also, who cares if they do it out of laziness? I don't.
Your favorite thing about abortion is that it pisses off Christians? See, you do it again. Ridiculing women who really need an abortion. And don't try to play "Shift the goalpost" with me, boy! Not being able to raise a child or not having the resources to is a different thing but it's not what you originally said!
@SomeApe
Playing devil's advocate for a second, here. How's Neo's admittedly kinda fucked up stance demeaning towards women who need, for one reason or another, an abortion? I mean, any reason for an abortion is a valid reason, even if it is fucked up. If you don't want a kid, ya shouldn't have it, period.
@RavynousHunter:
I don't know, is it really a valid reason to have an abortion just because it pisses of Christians (or any other group for that matter)? If you don't want a child, don't have a child, yes, but this doesn't even have anything to do with this preference. How is it demeaning? Well, if I was a woman who had an abortion because of tragic reasons and I had a huge struggle with myself about it, I would be really pissed off by someone saying: "lol, abortions are cool, you don't have to raise the kid plus you get to piss off christians". He makes a joke out of a serious subject. That's my issue here.
ETA: also, an abortion can be really painful physically too and the risk of getting infertile is still pretty high. So it's not a thing you do without a lot of thought.
ETA 2: just asked my girlfriend and she said she would be pissed too. Also, she asks if you have had a vasectomy, NeoMatrix. And if no, why not?
@SomeApe :
Well, if I was a woman who had an abortion because of tragic reasons and I had a huge struggle with myself about it, I would be really pissed off by someone saying: "lol, abortions are cool, you don't have to raise the kid plus you get to piss off christians". He makes a joke out of a serious subject. That's my issue here.
That's still in no way demeaning to or ridiculing of women as you claim. Calling out an idiotic stance is one thing but proceeding to take an equally ridiculous one to fight it just kills your point.
@#2053434
By pointing out that his reasons are incredibly juvenile and that, considering the medical risks of the procedure (everything from sterility to deadly infections) and the potential cost, it's a very stupid way of trying to stick it to the opposition. That's perfectly sufficient. There's no point to just wadding up all the labels & traits one hates and throwing them all at one's opponent to see what sticks. Doing that doesn't make your target look worse; it just lessens the impact of your criticism.
Logged out, currently.
@SomeApe
Fair 'nuff.
It's cool to have a medication/surgery that might leave you sterile, and which can, if worse comes to worst, kill you?
The end result looks cool? This is your idea of cool?
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What's entertaining about taking a pill?
Women are fighting and dying for their right to decide over their own bodies, some women are forced to abort a much wanted fetus late in the pregnancy because it's non-viable, and you think it's cool and entertaining? You're loathsome.
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