Permit me to clarify the definition. Sodomy is one MAN inserting his genitals into the mouth or anus of ANOTHER MAN. Say it again. Say it out loud so your ears hear it. Picture it in your mind. Picture Barney Frank and Elton John in action. Barney Frank putting his genitals into Elton John’s. That is what they want to tell us is normal—no wait—tell our children is normal. Into that 'union' they are asking permission to place children. Would you let them put YOUR grandchild into a sodomy-based family? Why would you let them do it to someone else’s child? Have normal people lost their minds?
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By no sane definition is that what sodomy is.
I like the "ANOTHER MAN" part. What, women's anuses are pure and lovely places to insert a cock?
Picture Barney Frank and Elton John in action. Barney Frank putting his genitals into Elton John’s.
No thanks. I'd rather imagine a naked woman than two naked guys but hey, you have every right to your own fantasies.
sod·om·y [sod-uh-mee] 1. anal or oral copulation with a member of the opposite sex.
[Sarcasm] Why should we allow a child to live in a house where a husband and wife engage in sodomy? Why would we want them to believe that is "normal"? Would you want your child or grandchild to live in a house where the wife gives blowjobs to her husband? [/sarcasm]
I can't help but think that maybe the reason these people are so against gays is that you can actually tell when someone is gay (or bi) from knowing the gender of their partner. Heterosexual couples do basically all the same things as gay ones, but because they have the right sets of genitals to be able to have Approved Sex In The Missionary Position With The Lights Off, fundies can just assume that their bedroom activities are "normal" even when secretly they have a whole BDSM dungeon at home.
No, I don't think we should tell children about sexual positions at all.
Why do fundies always think that letting children know about gay people involves giving them graphic descriptions of sex acts? What's wrong with "some boys love other boys"?
Also, check a dictionary. Your definition of "sodomy" is way off.
No, sodomy is any form of sexual activity, hetero or homo, that is not penis in vagina.
The moment your wife or g/f lays her (gloved) hand on your dick you are a sodomite
Ebon beat me to it. No one says you have to talk about gay sex at all! "Sexual orientation" is a misnomer anyhow; it's more about whom you LOVE than what kind of people you want to have sex with. Just say "some men love other men and some women love other women" and that's it!
And Zach Wahls doesn't seem to be any worse for having been raised by two women - not quite the same situation, but the point still stands.
My five year old asked me what the word "gay" means. I had to think a few minutes, but the answer was quite simple: Gay is a word that´s used to describe a man who want´s to marry another man, or or a woman who wants to marry another woman. I consider myself a christian, and want to teach the children that sex is something that belongs to marriage. Explanation about marriage was easier and also more accurat, since it covers both physical and mental part of love. My eldest was six before he asked the question about how daddy puts the babyseeds inside mommy, so he did not know anything about sex, when he heard the word "gay".
Understanding of sodomy fail. Both hetero and homo sexual anal and oral sex are sodomy.
Of course, only perverts care what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes.
What is it with the graphic descriptions of sex acts when they're talking about gay people? I can sort of understand when you have some religious objection to homosexuality, it makes no sense, but nor do a lot of things you believe. But what you're saying just smacks of 'eww it's icky', which is not an argument. Heterosexual sex can be just as icky, I can assure you.
I have never once seen or heard anybody describe gay sex in quite as much loving detail as a fundie. Even actual gay people.
@ Mihangel apYrs
It doesn't bother me unless I have to declare dual citizenship and start paying additional taxes.
"Would you let them put YOUR grandchild into a sodomy-based family?"
And here is one of the roots of the conservatard obsession: "My oh-so-important dynasty of middle-class obscurity* could die off if a future generation has buttseks instead of kids! Meanwhile, all those kids who have been victims of pedophiles would like a word with you about your priorities.
Another root to this obsession with sex is a deep depression caused by the failure to find a way to license or tax it.
* Or White trash if I wasn't being kind.
"Would you let them put YOUR grandchild into a sodomy-based family?"
As a former foster parent, I have seen what happens to kids who spent their young lives in the system. If my grandchildren could be saved from that by being adopted by a gay couple who met state qualifications as adoptive parents, I would be greatly relieved.
Call me crazy, but I put childrens' welfare above your bigotry.
Um, under the law sodomy is defined as oral or anal sex of any kind. So a man performing cunnilingus could be considered an act of sodomy. But usually in general parlance, sodomy is considered anal sex, which still doesn't rule out a heterosexual couple doing it.
And again with homophobes and their graphic descriptions of gay sex. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? I'm betting that Dave here constantly visits that lemonparty site.
@Dr.Shrinker
Oh no, don't you see, fundies are ALL ABOUT protecting children. After all, keeping them ignorant and spreading misinformation about anyone they don't like is FAR more important than ensuring they have a stable home in which to live and grow.
I feel dirty just typing that.
Dave: imagine them sliding their genitals over one another like eels. Picture it. SEE it. I want you to LOOK at it. LOOK AT IT! LOOK AAAAT IIIIIIT!! "
Jesus, Dave, please orgasm a bit quieter.
"Barney Frank putting his genitals into Elton John’s"
Wait, Barney Frank putting his genitals into Elton John's genitals ?
I once went through a male friends phone during high school. I learned two things.
"Permit me to clarify the definition. Sodomy is one MAN inserting his genitals into the mouth or anus of ANOTHER MAN. Say it again. Say it out loud so your ears hear it."
Okay. Now say this:
Anal Sex does not necessarily mean the insertion of one man's genitals into the mouth or anus of another man. Some heterosexual couples - including women - enjoy the act of what you "define" 'Sodomy'. And it's not just the woman who can be the recipient of such an act; one word: Strapons .
Say it again. Say it out loud so your ears hear it.
Now you'll hopefully realise how stupid, nay, unjustifiable your blatantly bigoted way of thinking sounds. Have [i]sub[/i]normal people lost their minds?
@Extraintrovert
"@Dr.Shrinker
Oh no, don't you see, fundies are ALL ABOUT protecting children."
...from growing up with tolerant attitudes; exploring their sexualities, so they can - as consenting adults - hopefully find their soulmates of whatever gender, no. As per the link above, said fundies want those children for themselves ; it's not just the Catholic church that are paedophilic, nosiree...!
Yes, it is disgusting. However, something being disgusting is not an argument for making it illegal. You literally have no logical argument, which is why you are resorting to this.
"Sodomy is one MAN inserting his genitals into the mouth or anus of ANOTHER MAN."
Not according to the legal statutes that were struck down in many States. Sodomy was anything except penis in vagina sex with the man on top, woman on the bottom facing him, AKA the missionary position. Most couples I know violate that one during courtship.
That was actually pretty hot till he mentioned Elton John.....
And then it went way downhill.
Why do fundies always cry out in the name of the children? Can they not find an adult argument for a fcking change?
Permit me to clarify the definition. Sodomy is one MAN inserting his genitals into the mouth or anus of ANOTHER MAN. Say it again.
Ah, so Dave Daubenmire seems to think that one guy whacking off another guy is ok.
That explains a lot. ;-)
Actualy... sodomy is any sex that is not reproductive in nature.
It may also include two men placing their genitals at the disposal of one woman. Or a man and a woman kissing eachothers genitals very affectionately.
Good grief, why is everything always aboutsex? Is sex the most important part in a straight relationship? There are so many other things in love than just sex, there is taking care of one another, helping each other, raising children together and who the fuck cares how somebody fucks somebody else, as long as they raise their children with love and respect and compassion! Something you, sir, are incapable of!
It'd help fundamentalists if they didn't keep using arguments perfected by 12 year olds. I'm pretty sure around that age me and others would make jokes like "imagine (unlikely pairing of unattractive people) having sex" to gross each other out.
No one wants to see old or middle-aged fat people having sex. Gay sex isn't my thing, but it's certainly far less my thing if it's a bunch of old men, much like I'd rather not look at old straight couples or old women having sex.
forced verbal porn
I feel so violated.
LOL> Typed all with one hand too! I love when fundies get themselves all hot and bothered (and lubed) over graphic descriptions of male/male sex. Of course, officially they are ONLY gay for Jesus.
But, if you actually go back and read you'll find that Sodomy's biblical meaning is "treating guests poorly". LOL freaks.
Anal is fun. It's dirty, unadulterated, satisfying fun.
And women enjoy it too!
Perhaps you should stop focusing on everyone else in the bedroom and go satisfy your wife.
Unless you can't...because you're too focused on men to focus on two pumping your wife with the lights off.
Meanwhile Imma go enjoy some fine ass.
You just had to choose the two oldest openly gay famous people didn't you?
Alright, imagine your grandmother and your grandfather. Equally disgusting isn't fuckstick.
Dave, I'm gonna fuck yo momma; I'm gonna fuck yo dad...fucked yo sister...just to make ya mad!
Oh, and when I did your sister, I pile-drove her, over the edge, and she wanted anal.
Is that NORMAL?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL I thought sodomy just meant anal sex.
NOW THEY'RE HAVIN BUTTSECKS...COWBOY BUTTSECKS...SODOMEEHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...SODOMEEEEE HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Sodomy.
Oh yeah and fuck you bigot.
Is it just me, or does the sentence construction give off the impression that he wants us to imagine Barney penetrating Elton's genitals? I wouldn't even think that POSSIBLE...or desirable, for that matter.
Well, it's certainly not for me. But as long as it's consensual and between adults -- far be it for me to tell them they can't. And if they're loving parents who happen to have gay sex? Then yes, I'd put my grandchildren into their care (although why my children wouldn't take care of their child is beyond me).
"Picture Barney Frank and Elton John in action."
As I understand it, Frank and John are both in committed relationships with other men.
Wrap your head around that Dave
Now picture Portia de Rossi having sex with Amber Heard.
Yeah, that's not so horrible, is it?
sure...this guy isnt homophobic...he merely dislikes those naked, sweaty, bulging men inserting their....
Yeah...he is straight as an arrow.
<b>@Rabbit of Caerbannog</b>
You know, the guy in the OP is an idiot, but can we not fight homophobia by fetishizing lesbian couples? It's dehumanizing.
Sorry for being a killjoy, but I think we are better than them, aren't we :) ?
@Schneeflittchen
I don't think pointing out that those two women are an adorable couple is dehumanizing at all. That picture is very sweet, romantic and beautiful, quite apart from any "mmm, girl-on-girl" factor it might have.
sorry Joe, thats a limited definition.
Many definitions say anal intercourse, man , woman , dog or sheep doesnt matter. Some include oral sex, so your wife giving you a blow job is sodomy.
One man cannot put his genitals into another mans genitals, its just not possible.
Protip: If you don't like gay sex, then DON'T THINK ABOUT IT. You'll thank yourself later.
And no, we haven't lost our minds. I think you fundies are the ones who have lost your minds.
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