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Fischer Wants Victim's Family To 'Pull The Lever' During Executions Because That Is What The Bible Says

Bryan Fischer continues his campaign to turn the United States of America into a fundamentalist Christian theocracy, declaring on his radio broadcast today that the oldest male relative of a murder victim ought to be allowed to "pull the lever" when the killer is executed because that is what the Bible dictates.

Reading from Joshua 20, which allowed those who inadvertently kill someone to flee to a city of refuge where they would be protected from "the avenger of blood," Fischer asserted that the phrase was understood to mean that the oldest male relative of the victim had the legal right to avenge the blood of their relative.

To Fischer, this demonstrates that God wants the immediate family of victims to be involved in meting out justice and so our legal system should be changed so that if, for instance, someone were to be executed by firing squad, the oldest male relative of the victim would give the order to fire.

"Or if it is the electric chair," Fischer continued, "the law would give to the oldest male in the family the right pull the lever ... so that the family participates, they have the sense of satisfaction that the death of their loved one has been avenged."

"I know that will sound radical to some of you," he admitted, "but it makes perfectly good sense to me"

Bryan Fischer, Right Wing Watch 41 Comments [4/8/2014 2:54:31 AM]
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anevilmeme

Yeah, the Founding Fathers would like a word with you about establishing a Xian theocracy.

4/8/2014 3:17:59 AM

Sangfroid

Precisely. It sounds beyond stupid to me. Which is why the constitution keeps theocrats away from the levers of power.

4/8/2014 3:26:06 AM

Mister Spak

Where does the bible tell us about electricity?

4/8/2014 4:06:03 AM

Goomy pls

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

-Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

4/8/2014 4:10:19 AM

anothga

Bryan Fischer continues his campaign to turn the United States of America into a fundamentalist Christian theocracy...
And he's not even trying to hide it.

4/8/2014 4:18:22 AM

Mark Poe

So where's the forgiveness that I was told about in your Bible?

...

Yea I thought so.

4/8/2014 4:54:09 AM

Night Jaguar

Yeah, let's not apply Iron Age rules of punishment.

4/8/2014 4:59:02 AM

Grimsoncrow

Seems perfectly legit to me,honestly.

I've never understood American's infatuation with capital punishment, but saying that "Oh,no, It is not barbaric when we do it RIGHT" is incredibly hypocritical.

You should just be honest and bring back stoning, or better yet, "Remote execution", like in the "Tokyo Gore Police".

4/8/2014 5:09:45 AM

Doubting Thomas

There's not one thing in Joshua 20 which says family members have the right to kill an accidental murderer. In fact, Joshua 20 is all about giving people sanctuary and protecting them from a revenge killer. If anything, it's a prohibition against capital punishment. Which we don't have the death penalty for involuntary manslaughter anyway.

Looks like Bryan Fischer doesn't know his bible very well and just wants to project his own sick fantasies onto the rest of the country.

4/8/2014 5:48:33 AM

Dr. Razark

"Let he who is without sin pull the first lever."

4/8/2014 6:12:46 AM



@ Doubting Thomas

"Looks like Bryan Fischer doesn't know his bible very well..." Or maybe Bryan does know full well what the Bible says, he's just hoping the sheeple doesn't see for themselves, and takes Bryan's words for it.

4/8/2014 6:26:08 AM

Sangfroid

So, not only do they have to suffer the loss of a loved one, they also have to suffer through performing an execution.

Pretty fucking stupid, no matter how you look at it.

4/8/2014 7:28:40 AM

Axel

For what it's worth, the order of having to take a life might actually discourage the death penalty.

4/8/2014 7:40:40 AM

John_in_Oz

I follow your reasoning.
And if the Bible talks about Christians being thrown to the lions, then we should throw Christians to the lions.
"I know that will sound radical to some of you,but it makes perfectly good sense to me"

4/8/2014 7:41:19 AM



It also completely contradicts the faith you claim.

4/8/2014 8:12:32 AM



One wonders what the result of people refusing, as I would, to throw the switch would be. He seems to assume everyone in his country would be on some revenge-fuelled bloodlust trip. I hope, really hope, for the sake of society at large, this is not the case.

4/8/2014 8:23:04 AM

Philbert McAdamia

... he admitted, "but it makes perfectly good sense to me"

Jesus, Bryan, the fucking bible makes sense to you. I suppose The Three Stooges are high drama.

4/8/2014 8:24:54 AM

Elie

Whether you think the death penalty is a necessity or not, it certainly shouldn't be a fucking circus.
If the only valid argument in favor of the death penalty is to remove an incorrigibly violent and murderous person from society, then it should damn well be treated like the surgery it is: You remove an infection coolly and professionally, and move on from the grim thing.

4/8/2014 8:38:43 AM

Frank

The primary form of execution in America is lethal injection, which is bad enough, although some of the more barbarous southern states still have electrocution, hanging and firing squads as an alternative.

What if the victim had no male relatives? What if the oldest male relative is a child? the whole idea is completely sexist. Not to mention barbaric.

4/8/2014 9:06:03 AM

GigaGuess

I hear the sound of furious typing while nursing a diamond hard erection.

4/8/2014 9:14:23 AM

UHM

What if all the living relatives of the victim are female?

4/8/2014 9:21:14 AM

Alencon

Bryan Fischer is a certifiable lunatic.

4/8/2014 9:21:56 AM

JeanP

Rev. Fisher would like Iranian or Saudi law because this is exactly what they do.

The more time pass, the more I think Christian fundamentalists are anti-Islam because they are jealous of their Islamic brethren who hold the power in their societies.

4/8/2014 9:33:09 AM

Hasan Prishtina

1) The commentaries I've seen say nothing about an "oldest male" relative, just the nearest one.
2) Codes of blood feud are common in societies where there is little or no functioning state and the United States, with functioning police, judicial and penal systems, is a state in good working order. Yet Fischer wants to get away from the idea in the Bible and similar codes and have the state to do everything but pull the lever. That's not how it works; if the state tracks the killer down and puts him in the execution chamber, then the vengeance is the state's and not that of the victim's family. Having the family there to perform a task at a state execution is cosmetic sleight of hand.
3) In a modern state, unintentional killing is not punished by the death penalty.
4) In Joshua 20, if the high priest died while the killer was in the city of refuge, the killer could go free. How would Fischer incorporate that into his theocratic scenario?
5) What if the oldest male relative did not wish to carry out the execution? Would the killer go free? Or would the state put him to death and blow the whole "biblical" charade out of the water?

In short: it's neither biblical nor constitutional, but something made up to satisfy Fischer's blood-lust fantasies.

4/8/2014 10:18:18 AM

Flah

What if the murderer is the oldest male relative?

4/8/2014 10:19:45 AM

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