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Patriarchy most definitely did exist in the past and it will return again because all other things being equal patriarchy is much more powerful and much more desirable than feminism and out competes feminism easily. There was a kind of great disruption starting around 1850 in the Western World that disoriented people I would say and allowed for feminism to start to invade as a kind of parasite but a significant backlash against the disorder and family destruction that feminism brought started around 1995 at least in the United States (judging by social statistics) and today one can see religious revival happening quite clearly through the more conservative complementarian / patriarchal type churches. Religious revival is the mechanism by which I expect patriarchy to return again as the dominant cultural norm in the Western World.

What I advocate for here on this website is not fantasy that never existed; it was the cultural norm and the standard view of the world as expressed in secular terms up until feminism got started with its “new version” of gender relations and its “new definition” of what it meant to be a man and a woman. The results of feminism have been disastrous compared to the high functioning patriarchy that preceded feminism. This shows the patriarchal view of the world is correct and healthy while the feminist view of the world is wrong and unhealthy.

Feminism is what destroyed my ability to form relationships with women early on in my life; that is just a plain historical fact. My belief in and support for patriarchy is what makes me desirable to the women I want to be desirable to today. Patriarchy is also what makes me a good human being moving society in a positive direction for the future regardless of how women respond to me or not at the personal romantic level. Patriarchy is both spiritually good and romantically good for me at the same time.

A patriarchal society has much better relationships between men and women than what feminism has to offer. I’m sticking with patriarchy; it is the only sane choice.


Jesse Powell, Secular Patriarchy 32 Comments [7/24/2014 3:23:12 AM]
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Goomy pls

Secular or not, this is the arse of ideas. It's horrid. Just stop while you're close behind.

7/24/2014 3:45:23 AM



"Patriarchy most definitely did exist in the past and it will return again..."

Keep dreaming, loser.




"A patriarchal society has much better relationships between men and women than what feminism has to offer"

A relationship where the woman is forced to keep quiet and take orders from you because you'll either beat the shit out of her or leave her financially destitute does not qualify as a "better relationship".



7/24/2014 3:52:27 AM

anothga

Feminism is what destroyed my ability to form relationships with women early on in my life; that is just a plain historical fact.
*grumbles in low voice* This is like, what, 5th incel on FSTDT?

Patriarchy is both spiritually good and romantically good for me at the same time.
"I can't get laid, therefor, society must change." Pffft. Typical.

7/24/2014 3:52:30 AM



"I'm sticking with patriarchy; it is the only sane choice."


You mean the only chance you could ever have a woman would be by force.

7/24/2014 3:58:30 AM

Mister Spak

"There was a kind of great disruption starting around 1850 in the Western World that disoriented people "

That's nothing compared to how disoriented I get when I read MRA posts.

7/24/2014 4:16:20 AM

PhantomPharaoh

Translation: I can't get laid because I'm a sexist pig, but being a sexist pig can't possibly be wrong; after all, I'm one. Therefore, it must be true that feminism is wrong, which is why it sabotages my ability to get laid.

7/24/2014 5:01:36 AM

Mark Poe

So, you're a asshtwat, and you want society to cater to asstwat like you...

... that's not gonna happen anytime soon.

7/24/2014 5:03:27 AM

dionysus

today one can see religious revival happening quite clearly through the more conservative complementarian / patriarchal type churches. Religious revival is the mechanism by which I expect patriarchy to return again as the dominant cultural norm in the Western World.

Huh, a fundie quote that contains not just a grain of truth but a whole loaf of truth bread. Unfortunately, the rest of the bakery is shit, of course, but it was surprising to see something true uttered.

I expect patriarchy to return again as the dominant cultural norm in the Western World

Sorry, but unless you either overthrow the government or flagrantly violate the Constitution you aren't going to convince women to give up their right to vote.

What I advocate for here on this website is not fantasy that never existed

Nobody said it never existed. What you probably heard was "it SHOULD HAVE never existed".

The results of feminism have been disastrous compared to the high functioning patriarchy that preceded feminism

Yes, they had free light speed wifi and were traveling the galaxy at will. Medical science was able to cure death. Then feminism came and ruined it all. Now we live in a crapsack world that isn't in any way better than the Industrial Era.

Feminism is what destroyed my ability to form relationships with women early on in my life

Or, you know, you being an insufferable prick and dick-tator (my new word for people who want the right to rule over others by default just based on the sole qualification of having a penis).

My belief in and support for patriarchy is what makes me desirable to the women I want to be desirable to today.

I don't know about that. My wife doesn't even know who you are but she says that even if you look like Brad Pitt she'd still gag at the thought of you.

Patriarchy is also what makes me a good human being

Then you have severely misinterpreted what a good human being is. The only way you could have been more wrong is if you thought genocide and slavery made you a good human being.

A patriarchal society has much better relationships between men and women than what feminism has to offer.

Yes, I'm sure being in a slave/master type of relationship is SO much better than a consensual, loving, equal partnership.

7/24/2014 5:42:55 AM

Malingspann

"A patriarchal society has much better relationships between men and women than what feminism has to offer."

Patriarchy says that a relationship man/woman is, respectively, owner/property and that's the way I likes it![/Abe Simpson]

7/24/2014 5:47:18 AM

Doubting Thomas

My belief in and support for patriarchy is what makes me desirable to the women I want to be desirable to today.

I found the kind of woman most likely to find you desirable:


7/24/2014 5:52:50 AM

Musicalbookworm

You got two things right.
1. Patriarchy existed in the past
2. No sane women will ever want you with those views.
...the rest of it is utter crap!

7/24/2014 6:42:03 AM

Rob aka Mediancat

Well, hell, at least he admits he's being selfish about the whole thing. Still makes him a delusional asshole, of course, but at least he's slightly more self-aware than the average run of poopieheads we get around here.

7/24/2014 7:13:04 AM

Hasan Prishtina

1) Feminism existed long before 1850.
2) Religious revival works in conditions where it is perceived as having something to offer the society in which it happens. With no social advantage and mores from another age, religious revival has little chance.
3) I would lay ten to one that what you consider to be "patriarchy" is indeed fantasy and never existed. Societies, even patriarchal ones, are generally much more complex than patriarchy's modern Western supporters allow.
4) Hmm. I think you may play a part in the fact that you can't form relationships with women. I'm not convinced that, even if you had the patriarchy you wanted, your relationships with women would be that much better.
5) I think you need to find out what a good human being is. Even though I think you're massively deluded, "moving society in a positive direction" does not suffice; jerks with good intentions are legion.
6) What you think is good for you is not necessarily good for America; nobody died and made you Henry Ford. You stick with patriarchy; the rest of us will carry on with living.

7/24/2014 7:51:39 AM

Anon-e-moose

"I’m sticking with patriarchy; it is the only sane choice."

Nobody tell Jessie here about the anime series "Vandread". Least of all it's initial scenario. One word: Taraak. [/Your Head A Splode] >:D

7/24/2014 8:31:01 AM

nazani14

Nope, it won't return. We have guns, too.

7/24/2014 9:29:59 AM

Bobo Bolinsky

Another turd who insists that everything his brain creates must be true. Jeebus, what a complete loser.

7/24/2014 9:39:52 AM

Churchy LaFemme

Actually, I suspect that what destroyed your ability to form relationships with women is your refusal to recognize them as people instead of robots created to serve your every whim.

Ever notice how asshats who propose a "sane" utopia are always members of the group in charge?

7/24/2014 9:42:28 AM

Moving out of Stereo

My God... no one should be in power because of how they were born, only their skill. Can you not understand that, Jesse?!

7/24/2014 9:43:05 AM

The Crimson Ghost

Historical fact, you say?

Just more whining; of course you're sticking with patriarchy, it's the only chance you may have to ever get some sugar. Despite that, you're going to die alone. And no one will mourn you.



7/24/2014 9:58:29 AM

Ludd

Sending people with leprosy off to die in the desert also used to be the "cultural norm" but that isn't going to make a big comeback anytime soon either.

7/24/2014 10:44:11 AM

Naturalistic Worldview

>>A patriarchal society has much better relationships between men and women than what feminism has to offer.


Sounds an awful lot like "I miss the days when blacks knew their place." Just as enlightened, too. Waaaah, change is scary! Equality is bad! I want to pretend the last 150 years never happened!

7/24/2014 11:31:49 AM

Old Viking

On what planet did all of this "high functioning patriarchy" take place?

7/24/2014 1:34:24 PM

Mark Poe

@Old Viking

On Gor of course...

7/24/2014 1:43:37 PM

Jonathon

Can't get laid, eh?

7/24/2014 9:47:08 PM

rubber chicken

Protip Jesse. When a woman says " It's not you, it's me", she's lying in an attempt to make you feel better.

7/24/2014 10:16:17 PM

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