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The reason I believe the Bible is the Word of the Creator is because I have evidence that convinced me of that fact. It didn’t convert me. It amazingly explained what had happened to me after my conversion. It also contains explicit and inexplicable prophecies that pinpoint humanity’s timeline.

The Scriptures warned that at the end of this age (not the end of the world), just before the second coming of Jesus, certain things would be happening:

1. There would be money-hungry Bible teachers, who would slur the Christian faith and deceive many: “There will be false teachers among you . . . and many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words” (2 Peter 2:1–3 NKJV).

2. There would be wars, increased seismic activity, food shortages, and widespread disease: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places” (Matthew 24:7 NKJV).

3. The moon would become blood red: “The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the coming of the great and awesome day of the LORD” (Acts 2:20 NKJV).

4. People would become selfish, materialistic, and blasphemous: “In the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers” (2 Timothy 3:1–2).

5. The world would embrace homosexuality as a normal lifestyle: “Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot . . . on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed” (Luke 17:28–29). Some believe that Sodom was judged because of their inhospitality. However, the Bible makes it clear that Sodom was given over to homosexuality. The Scriptures say that Lot was “oppressed by the sensual conduct of unprincipled men.” These people were “those who indulge[d] the flesh in its corrupt desires and despise[d] authority” (2 Peter 2:7–10 NASB). Jude 7 warns “Sodom and Gomorrah . . . having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire” (NKJV).

6. Religious hypocrisy would be prevalent: “For [although] they hold a form of piety (true religion), they deny and reject and are strangers to the power of it [their conduct belies the genuineness of their profession]” (2 Timothy 3:5 AMP).

7. Men would deny that God created the heavens, and that He destroyed the world through Noah’s flood: “There shall come in the last days scoffers . . . For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished” (2 Peter 3:3, 5, 6).

8. The future would become frightening: “. . . men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken” (Luke 21:26 NKJV).

9. Skeptics (motivated by the sin of lust) would mock these signs, claiming they have always been around: “Scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, and saying, ‘Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation’” (2 Peter 3:3–4 NKJV).

10. The city of Jerusalem is pivotal in Bible prophecy. Scripture says that it would become a major political problem for the nations: “And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples” (Zechariah 12:3 NKJV). The powerful Arab nations want to annihilate the nation of Israel, so that they can have Jerusalem as their center of worship.

Jesus said, “Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled” (Luke 21:24). Jerusalem was controlled by the Gentiles (non-Jewish nations) until 1967, when the Jews took its possession. For the first time in two thousand years the Jews stepped into Jerusalem. This sign shows us where we are on the prophetic clock. We are living on the very edge of the coming of God’s kingdom—when His will, will be done on earth, as it is in heaven. The tragedy, however, is that despite these evident signs, most will ignore the warning to get right with God and eventually end up in a terrible place called "Hell." Don't let that happen to you.

Ray Comfort, Facebook 29 Comments [8/18/2014 3:38:29 AM]
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anothga

I say that conflict in Ukraine will be resolved in next 10 years, that cure for AIDS still won't be available next year and that hunger in Africa will continue. Does this make me a prophet?

8/18/2014 3:57:25 AM



Money-hungry religious people? Hypocritical religious people? That sounds just like YOU, Ray...

Wars? Damn, that's specific. Man never had those before. Oh, wait... I'll bet religion even was the reason, too.

Eclipses? Damn, that's specific. Never had those before. Oh, wait...

Selfish people? People being afraid? People being, well, people? Damn, that's specific...

What about "Tyre shall fall"? What about Jesus coming back In the disciples' lifetime?

How could one doubt any of that? And doubt that it points to YOUR specific god?

Perhaps you should come up with something that is specific BEFORE it happens.

8/18/2014 4:27:30 AM

Happy Atheist

Just going to concentrate on Number 9, given as that also addresses my opinions on the other nine as well.

Loving that you're putting our scepticism down to the sin of lust. It's only because I'm fond of the occasional orgasm that I'm suggesting your prophecies have been perpetually fulfilled throughout most all of history, as though that makes sense, Mr Comfort.

I note that you didn't actually raise any counterpoint to the argument. Take any moment in history from now back to the first records and you will find most, if not all, of these prophecies fulfilled then.

8/18/2014 4:40:17 AM



Canadiest

"6. Religious hypocrisy would be prevalent"

I say it's absolute. There isn't a single person on this planet living by Biblical Law. Not the Pope, not the followers and not you Ray.

Now I don't mind that so much, because that book is fucking stupid and in places dangerous. But you Ray, and all that claim to live by every word, prove it or keep your mouth shut, shut down your hypocritical ministry and get a real job.

8/18/2014 4:42:53 AM

Indicible

So, just like the past 2000 years (by a conservative estimate).
Comfort is simply describing humanity. It's rotten, but at least, that's what makes it interesting. More than fairy tales of a supernatural being.

8/18/2014 5:27:41 AM

wintermute

"Some believe that Sodom was judged because of their inhospitality."

Those "some" include God, as quoted in Ezekiel 16:49. But Ray knows the Bible better than God, so just ignore that.

8/18/2014 5:33:05 AM

Doubting Thomas

It didn’t convert me. It amazingly explained what had happened to me after my conversion.

LOL. Ray can't keep from contradicting himself between two consecutive sentences.

Skeptics (motivated by the sin of lust)

Claiming that everyone is a skeptic because they want to have sex is just plain insane. I've noticed that Ray has accused nonbelievers of sexual sins before in quotes that didn't have anything to do with sex, so this must be his form of spiritual slander.

8/18/2014 5:38:46 AM

Hasan Prishtina

1. Money-hungry Bible teachers have existed for centuries. I take it you sell books, DVDs, CDs and make your living by them?
2. Wars, seismic activity, food shortages, and widespread disease have existed in every century of recorded history.
3. The moon turns red during an eclipse. It's to do with the earth's atmosphere.
4. Selfish, materialistic, and blasphemous people have existed throughout recorded time.
5. None of those verses mention homosexuality, still less homosexuality becoming a "normal lifestyle."
6. Religious hypocrisy becoming prevalent? Go read the Book of Isaiah, Church history etc. etc.
7. People have been denying the existence of God and the truth of the Flood story for centuries.
8. The future has always been frightening for those of a turn of mind to be frightened.
9. OK, tell us what makes what you say different from the many centuries in which these signs existed, including, you admit, the era when the writer of 2 Peter lived.
10. i) Not all Arabs are Muslim; many are Christian;
ii) only a few Christians want to establish Jerusalem as their center of worship; the Muslims have Mecca and Medina;
iii) Jews had been doing a lot of stepping into Jerusalem; Jews had been living in Jerusalem since ancient times and there has been a Jewish majority in the city for at least 150 years;
iv) in your ardor for political control of Jerusalem, have you not considered that you yourself are a Gentile?

8/18/2014 6:14:32 AM

OHP

"1. There would be money-hungry Bible teachers, who would slur the Christian faith and deceive many: “There will be false teachers among you . . . and many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words” (2 Peter 2:1–3 NKJV)."

Happening in every religion since the beginning of time.

"2. There would be wars, increased seismic activity, food shortages, and widespread disease: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places” (Matthew 24:7 NKJV)."

Happening since the beginning of time.

"3. The moon would become blood red: “The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the coming of the great and awesome day of the LORD” (Acts 2:20 NKJV)."

I've yet to see this happen. Unless you're referring to eclipses which, again, have beening happening since the beginning of time.

"4. People would become selfish, materialistic, and blasphemous: “In the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers” (2 Timothy 3:1–2)."

Happening since the beginning of time.

"5. The world would embrace homosexuality as a normal lifestyle: “Likewise as it was also in the days of Lot . . . on the day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all. Even so will it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed” (Luke 17:28–29). Some believe that Sodom was judged because of their inhospitality. However, the Bible makes it clear that Sodom was given over to homosexuality. The Scriptures say that Lot was “oppressed by the sensual conduct of unprincipled men.” These people were “those who indulge[d] the flesh in its corrupt desires and despise[d] authority” (2 Peter 2:7–10 NASB). Jude 7 warns “Sodom and Gomorrah . . . having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire” (NKJV)."

Happening, off and on, since the beginning of time.

"6. Religious hypocrisy would be prevalent: “For [although] they hold a form of piety (true religion), they deny and reject and are strangers to the power of it [their conduct belies the genuineness of their profession]” (2 Timothy 3:5 AMP)."

Happening since the beginning of time and you should be feeling particularly red-faced on this one.

"7. Men would deny that God created the heavens, and that He destroyed the world through Noah’s flood: “There shall come in the last days scoffers . . . For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished” (2 Peter 3:3, 5, 6)."

Happening -- say it with me, here -- SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME! Be it by atheists or by those of other religions (who, by nature, deny your god did either of these).

"8. The future would become frightening: “. . . men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken” (Luke 21:26 NKJV)."

Happening since the beginning of time. Every generation is full of idiots who think that humanity is in its last days simply because things had in some way changed from how they were during their childhood.. Every one of them was wrong.

"9. Skeptics (motivated by the sin of lust) would mock these signs, claiming they have always been around: “Scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, and saying, ‘Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation’” (2 Peter 3:3–4 NKJV)."

So in other words pointing out that this shit has been going on for tens of thousands of years and thus is in no way prophetic is just further proof of the prophecy? Nice makeshift rules patch, cultists. It's only a little less obvious than the presence of the sun in the sky. In the desert. At midday. Without any cloud cover.

"10. The city of Jerusalem is pivotal in Bible prophecy. Scripture says that it would become a major political problem for the nations: “And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples” (Zechariah 12:3 NKJV). The powerful Arab nations want to annihilate the nation of Israel, so that they can have Jerusalem as their center of worship."

Really? The city that was frequently starting wars and being conquered as a result was predicted to be involved in future turmoil? Go fucking figure. I could say the same thing about fucking Washington D.C.



You're not even trying anymore, Cumfart.

8/18/2014 6:46:49 AM

Pule Thamex

We could end up in a terrible place called what? Could you repeat that? I've never heard of it!

8/18/2014 7:11:56 AM

Alencon

And this has all been going on for hundreds of years. Yeah, I know, any day now.

8/18/2014 9:50:42 AM

ConcernedCultist

Believing in prophecies is denying human hopes and evils. People kill because they have motivations, not because they are scheduled by the bible.

8/18/2014 11:16:29 AM

Goomy pls

1. Anyone who knows economics will find there are people who try to get a quick buck from anything, including Christianity.

2. Wars, disease, and famines because of population increase. Also, many periods of history had things like these. There was WWII 70 years ago, and there was also the Black Death 700 years ago.

3. "Blood moons" are made up by Hagee.

4. There are always selfish people. Anything short of complete praise of your genocidal sky-beardie is seen as blasphemy.

5. It's not so much homosexuality as gang-rape. And rape has been a part of history for a long time--especially because people raped their wives under the cover of marriage. Homosexuality is not mentioned in a list of the sins of Sodom in your own BuyBull.

6. There was always religious hypocrisy in funamentalists.

7. Of course a religion would mock those who just can't find any sense in it.

8. People always fear the unknown.

9. No, you idiot, the point is that this happened in the past so often without it being the end times that we have no reason to believe you conclusively! How dense can you be?

10. It is precisely because of this "prophecy" that Christians here pay so much attention to Israel. For us Jews it's a matter of our homeland.

8/18/2014 12:06:17 PM

rageaholic

More end times bullshit. The threat of hell at the end was a nice touch though.

8/18/2014 12:27:55 PM

Nemo

Guys, these ten "indisputable" signs are the same ten from his "movie", Noah and the Last Days. King Crocoduck did an epic bitch slap of number 3. For your viewing pleasure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-LDbc_Toio

As for number 9, that was just Peter covering his ass. If the previous 8 signs have always been around, then this sign is worthless except to show how empty Peter was. I can assure you that lunar eclipses and earthquakes have indeed been regular hallmarks of earth well before there were any "fathers" to fall asleep.

8/18/2014 12:28:55 PM

freako104

Many of those occured throughout history. This time is no different

8/18/2014 12:30:15 PM



Canadiest


Thanks
@Hasan Prishtina
@OHP and
@Goomy pls

He didn't have a single valid argument but I was too weary to do the point by point rebuttle.

This is how they wear them down in debates, so much wrong and so little time.

8/18/2014 12:41:05 PM

Goomy pls

@Hasan Prishtina

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Cray Cumfart was a Jew before he converted to Christianity.

@Canadiest

You're welcome~ ^_^

8/18/2014 12:42:56 PM

Old Viking

Is anyone else old enough to remember Burma Shave signs along the highways?

8/18/2014 12:46:59 PM

John

There will be false teachers among you . . .

There have been hundreds of versions of Christianity almost since its beginning. Paul's epistles were basically an attempt to bring the various "false teachers" into line. What about the Gnostics, Arians, Nestorians, Monophysites, and other early "flavors"? According to the Roman Catholic Church, Ray himself is a false teacher, since like most Baptist fundies, he's essentially an Arian (not to be confused with Hitler's "Aryans").

There would be wars, increased seismic activity, food shortages, and widespread disease; People would become selfish, materialistic, and blasphemous; Religious hypocrisy would be prevalent

What would be new is the absence of these things.

The moon would become blood red

There are at least four lunar or solar eclipses every year when the sun darkens or the moon turns red (due to the earth's atmosphere).

The world would embrace homosexuality as a normal lifestyle

Accepting homosexuals doesn't increase the number of homosexuals. No heterosexual says "oh, it's OK to be gay nowadays, so I guess I'll switch".

Skeptics (motivated by the sin of lust) would mock these signs, claiming they have always been around

So pointing out that you're full of crap is proof that you're not? Wow. I could use that argument to prove the moon is made of green cheese.




8/18/2014 1:14:04 PM

Wehpudicabok

Yeah, we skeptics claim that they have always been around... because most of them have. I mean, look at these things. Materialism, hypocrisy, blasphemy, atheism? Name me a single society that doesn't have these things.

One of them is more specific, though, the bit about the moon being blood red. Naturally that's the one that just plain isn't true at all.

8/18/2014 2:50:46 PM

Qazamir McSmarty Britches

1. There would be money-hungry Bible teachers, who would slur the Christian faith and deceive many

Oh riiiight, like you are the one to...



Dammit Ray! That was a new irony-meter!

2. Nothing new here.
3. one word... syzygy, I'll even provide the link so you won't have to look it up.
4. Nothing new here, and it is still not evidence for your "Last Days".

5. It's not about the Gays.

Ezekiel 16:49,50 Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had arrogance, abundant food and careless ease, but she did not help the poor and needy. Thus they were haughty and committed abominations before Me. Therefore I removed them when I saw it.


6.

Dammit! Again!

7. Nothing new here. And... where is this evidence for a world wide flood?

8. Nothing new her... Uuugghh! Really Ray? People have always been frightened by stupid shit. They've always thought the world was ending.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events

9. I think I'm going to make a mp3 recording of my voice repeating, "Nothing new here" ad infinitum, and send it in an email it to you, Ray Ray. Scoffers are not new; 2000 years have passed, and FSTDT was created for that very purpose... Yet still, no rapture, no Jesus, and no apocalypse. It's getting really, really old.

10. Jesus said, “Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled” (Luke 21:24).

Luke 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled. in other words, this was supposed to happen during the lives of the Apostles. Oops.

8/18/2014 4:17:46 PM

Beezlebub

Lust is the desire for pleasure. How is skepticism even remotely related to that?


8/18/2014 6:36:09 PM

pyro

> > It didn’t convert me. It amazingly explained what had happened to me after my conversion.
> LOL. Ray can't keep from contradicting himself between two consecutive sentences.

How's that a contradiction? Just because a conversion happened doesn't mean this nonsense caused it.


> The world would embrace homosexuality as a normal lifestyle

Ancient Rome embraced homosexuality as normal, even badass for the one on top. Why didn't the world end then?

8/18/2014 6:36:37 PM

Goomy pls

@Old Viking

I'm not nearly old enough and I remember them.

I had to explain the joke to my friends whenever I told them a Burma-Shave joke >_<

8/18/2014 6:43:14 PM

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