But keep in mind most pervertarians are not homosexuals themselves, or have anything they stand to gain personally from abolishing marriage in the name of marriage equality. They are enemies of the Church, and have found a convenient stick with which to beat the Church: they can claim that laws against sodomy, or laws acknowledging marriage, are just like the Jim Crow laws the Democrats enacted in the South after the Republican Union smashed the Democrat institution of slavery. What the connection is between race-hatred, which is an irrational antipathy of a whole racial group of man based on a trivial external characteristic no one can control or change, and a moral opprobrium against sexual perverts, which a rational antipathy against those individuals who freely decide to transgress the bounds of law and of nature, is a mystery of the Democrat faith. It is a talking point, something said without substance, neither meaningful nor meant to be believed, merely an emotional appeal, like calling someone a bad name, or calling an atrocity by an nondescript euphemism. It is a word-fetish.
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"they can claim that laws against sodomy, or laws acknowledging marriage, are just like the Jim Crow laws the Democrats enacted in the South after the Republican Union smashed the Democrat institution of slavery."
And when the Democratic party passed civil rights laws the racist right piled into the Republic party, voted The One into office and continued their war on Traditional American Values.
The Republican Union, which also contained millions of northern Democrats, continued being racist, only with slightly more subtlety. Back in the Sixties, long after my lifelong liberal Democrat mother-in-law moved to the North from Tennessee, she said that she heard far more racist comments in her new home state than back in the South. The difference was that there were fewer black people in earshot.
"Word-fetish"... like "pervertarian"? You're quite the word-fetishist yourself, Mr W.
"What the connection is between race-hatred, which is an irrational antipathy of a whole racial group of man based on a trivial external characteristic no one can control or change, and a moral opprobrium against sexual perverts, which a rational antipathy against those individuals who freely decide to transgress the bounds of law and of nature, is a mystery of the Democrat faith."
No, John; one is irrational bigotry, and the other is irrational bigotry; one was justified by religion, and the other is justified by religion; one is inherent in a person, and the other is inherent in a person.
It is not "meant to be believed" as a matter of faith; it's a perfectly valid analogy that religious bigots want to avoid acknowledging as accurate, because then they'll have to acknowledge that they're as bad as the racist who kept people enslaved, and they desperately don't want to do that.
In other words, you're a horrible bigot, and you want an excuse not to think of yourself as that, but here's a newsflash: bigotry's bigotry even if you think God's backing you up. that just makes your God as big an asshole as you are.
The beliefs of the democrats and republicans has switched in the last hundred years. Today's democrats are closer to the republicans of say the time of the Jim crow laws and vice versa.
The only people who fail to understand this are republicans.
Pervertarian is probably the best word I've ever seen come from the fundie word redefinition project. I guess it does sound better than fag enabler.
I'm not gay myself but do & will continue to support their rights for equality, so I guess that makes me a pervertarian. I also despise the church & everything it stands for, no matter what strain of the christian virus it may be. Chew on that, Mr. Wright.
"They are enemies of the Church"
Unless you're prepared to admit that Christianty doesn't have the monopoly on the institution of Marriage...:
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...is Shinto an enemy of the Church too?
Just the above in the very traditionalist & family -oriented Japan proves you, John C...:
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Pervertarians? I want to start my own country called "Pervertaria" with blackjack and hookers.
Seriously, when you start your sentence with made up silly words (especially bae or sheeple) then I'm just going to laugh in your face.
John, your writing has all the vivacity, all the joie de vivre, of a government regulation establishing price controls for rutabagas.
based on a trivial external characteristic no one can control or change
Like sexuality for instance. I never chose to be attracted to women. I see no reason anyone would've willingly chosen to be attracted to men in the many centuries in many parts of the world where you could be executed in any number of ways simply for having sex with someone of the same gender. And even now, why would there be homosexuals in Africa when people will lynch them in brutal ways just for being gay? So there is a rather accurate connection to be made between homosexuals and discriminated racial groups, the most obvious difference being you can't tell if one is gay right off the bat like you can tell someone's black.
@ #1722666
Anon
" 'If vegetarians eat vegetables, what do pervertarians eat?'
They are gourmet cannibals."
Wouldn't that make them humanitarians?
Oh, and #1722773 rubber chicken wins an internetz :-)
Regards & all,
Thomas L. Nielsen
Luxembourg
Pervertarians?
How do you abolish marriage in the name of marriage equality? Was marriage abolished when interracial couples were finally allowed to marry?
If marriage was abolished when homosexuals could marry too, then I would stand to gain from not abolishing it, as I'm happily married. I was married in a church, in front of a priest, and I’m still a paying member of the Swedish Church; that's how much of an enemy of the Church I am. (I think the Swedish Church does much good for poor people, in the world as well as here in Sweden, which I’m happy to contribute tax-money for.)
Laws that aim to restrict people's civil rights ARE just like the Jim Crow laws, stupid!
You do know that the Democrats who instituted slavery were the Conservatives, right; that a switch has taken place between the parties since then, right? Who ought to know more about the American history; an American or a Swede?
The connection between race-hatred and orientation-hatred, is the irrational hatred of people who are simply born different from you, asshole.
Democracy isn't a faith, and nor is the Democrat party.
The one speaking without substance is Johnny B Wrong, here.
Emotional appeal? You mean like calling irrational hatred against a congenital sexual orientation "moral opprobrium against sexual perverts, which a rational antipathy against those individuals who freely decide to transgress the bounds of law and of nature" ?
@Malingspann
'pervertarians '
"If vegetarians eat vegetables, what do pervertarians eat?"
Well, as it's reputed that Marilyn Manson can... ermmm... satisfy himself, I think that in itself answers Johnny-boy's question. >:D
The Dixiecrats of yesteryear are akin to the Southern Republicans of today, Thurmond and Helms especially. In contrast, Wallace and Byrd never left the Democratic Party and recanted their segregationist pasts.
The only Southern Republicans in congress (Sen. John Tower of Texas and 10 Representatives) voted nay on the Civil Rights Act. Several Southern Democratic Representatives voted yea, as did Sen. Ralph Yarborough (D-TX), a well-known progressive. In the North, the yea-nay ratio was higher in Democrats than Republicans in both houses. Northern Republicans who voted nay included arch-conservative Barry Goldwater and Bourke Hickenlooper.
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