A child growing up learns by absorbing, almost as if by osmosis, the gender and personal lessons of life form parents and society. Crucial to proper sexual development is the gender roles of humankind. Today, the emphasis on society is to confuse gender roles, to forbid a man to be a man, and to forbid a woman to be a woman. Children are raised in public schools and watch media that oppose normal gender development. This may be the greatest obstacle to proper sexual development in history. One expert wrote a book showing how educators try to force boys to be feminine, discouraging physical sports and even closing playgrounds. If we have public school systems where students regularly come to school with guns and murder people, and if we don't have this as often as we once did only because schools are throned with armed police, it is perhaps because boys are being stunted and frustrated in their natural masculine growth.
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Therefore, heterosexuality has come under assault. Up to eighty percent of couples indicate difficulty in their sexual relationships. As society continues it plunge away from natural gender roles, these difficulties increase. A woman who is taught to be a man, and a man who is taught to be a woman, come to bed, and what happens? Does the man become pregnant? Anyone who allows a child to go to public school or watch television or movies is tampering with the child's natural sexual growth.
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David Eidensohn: "Heterosexuality has come under assault. Up to eighty percent of couples indicate difficulty in their sexual relationships. As society continues it plunge away from natural gender roles, these difficulties increase."
Non-fundie: "Pointing out that 'natural gender roles' does NOT mean 'what's seen in the family of Beaver Cleaver' isn't 'assaulting heterosexuality'! Besides, is it by accident that your last name is an anagram of 'She done in'?"
Sure, because teaching the school age boys to be a little bit more emphatic and responsible, instead of perpetuating the endless bullying cycle will definately make them grow vaginas.
Besides, what the fuck are you all so afraid about? Nobody is forcing anyone to be somebody they`re not, just giving the folks some choice there. See, I still chose to be a housewife and I`m happy for it while my best female friend just happens to be a surgeon. Now for the kicker, of the two of us, I`m the leftie-feminist one and she`s the rightwinger with a bit of conservative thrown in. If your "natural" and "normal" gender roles are a default for our species, no amount of social engineering will change that. If they ain`t, then they`re not as natural and normal as advertised.
"to forbid a man to be a man, and to forbid a woman to be a woman"
Nobody is forbidding anyone from being a man or a woman, all that is happening is people are now allowing more than just the outdated stereotypes of gender roles.
"A woman who is taught to be a man, and a man who is taught to be a woman, come to bed, and what happens?"
My ex loved buying me sexy nighties to wear in bed and preferred to go on top and you know what? I was fine with that.
I am a heterosexual male. I love my wife and have sex with her. If a gay man or gay woman is allowed to marry, I still get to love and have sex with my wife. It changes nothing for me. What it does do, however, is provides an opportunity for other people who love each other to get the same tax breaks and recognition from the government that my wife and I enjoy.
Oh boy, more treating children like barely sentient animals again. Fucking great. It's not your job to dictate to children what to believe. You suggest things, but your responsibility is to feed them food, not propaganda.
"Osmosis?" Is that a new name for years of religious indoctrination? Sounds Egyptian.
"If we have public school systems where students regularly come to school with guns and murder people...."
Number of Primary and high school students in US in 2014: 35.1 million (http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372 )
Number of high school shootings (Excludes colleges, includes self-inflicted injuries): 9, of which 2 were massacres, the others were either gang-related, drive-by, or 1 on 1.
Ratio of shooters to the entire student population 1:3.9 million. Must be going on regularly, yup. Happens everywhere, every day. Derp.
I don't think society has to tell men and women what to do in bed - humans have been having sex for a million years. On the other hand, except in bed, there's no reason to distinguish between men and women.
So, what's your qualifications in child development and psychology, dearie?
Nope, the emphasis today is to allow each person to be him-, her- or itself. You shouldn't be forced to be one way, just because you have a penis or vagina. And, some people have both, or neither.
In my country we don't have students who regularly come to school with guns and murder people. Perhaps because we encourage physical sports for everyone and open more and more playgrounds, and perhaps because we don't have guns in every home.
I need citations on your claim that up to eighty percent indicate difficulty in their sexual relationships.
HEY! Listen up; women are NOT taught to be men, and men are NOT taught to be women. They are simply allowed to be who they are, and not forced into predetermined forms.
I say lock the little snot in a closet early on. Leave a slot in the door so you can pass through cold cuts, bread and toilet paper. When the person attains 21, allow freedom. Social and sexual skills will take care of themselves.
" discouraging physical sports and even closing playgrounds"
It's not educators who are cutting funds for schools, it's your 'family values' buddies.
Children don't have to be taught strict, traditional gender roles. Our son loves to help his mother cook, and I enjoy watching her teach him. I think his future wife will be happy if he helps in the kitchen.
What a load of s***. Gender roles are still there and still as defined as ever. Just that they are not unbreakable codes and boundaries. There are people who don't fit them and those people are not wrong. Acceptance of differences is not the same as "Children are raised in public schools and watch media that oppose normal gender development." That's just not true, at all.
No one is trying to force boys to be feminine, all they are doing is NOT forcing them to be masculine. It a boy happens to be more feminine then normal that's not a bad thing and you should noy force him to be something he's not.
Yes there have been school shootings and they are horrible when they happen but they are rare. To say they "Regularly happen is a complete lie. Blaming it on the made up confusion of gender roles is avoiding the true problem, that mentally disturbed students are able to get their hands on guns.
None of this shows that heterosexuality is under attack and for a good reason, it's not. And really being more acceptable of abnormal gender roles is not the cause of marital problems.
Men are NOT being taught to be women and women are not being taught to be men. As I said gender roles are still there but are no where near as inflexible as you make them out to be. Your the one who needs to change with the times. The times won't change to suit you.
The eternal song of the mentally ill. Everyone else has been tampered with, but I, I am perfectly OK and not at all deluded, for I, a beardie twerp, do listen to the magic words of a sky fairy.
"to forbid a man to be a man, and to forbid a woman to be a woman."
Which, translated from Frummese to English, means "to allow the existence of nonstandard gender roles alongside more traditional ones as equals."
I dare this yarmulke-wearing putz to say that to her face:
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Or hers, for that matter (Brienne's actress, Gwendoline Christie):
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"One expert wrote a book showing how educators try to force boys to be feminine, discouraging physical sports and even closing playgrounds."
No, that was the teabaggers wrecking the economy so there is no money for playground equipment and athletic programs.
"Therefore, heterosexuality has come under assault."
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> to forbid a man to be a man
A man wouldn't spend all his days whining like a five year old on the Internet. If you want to be a real goddamn man, then shut the fuck up, and keep your problems and emotions to yourself.
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