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I keep reading in the mainstream media that there is a rape culture in the United States. This issue concerns me since I have a sister who I don’t want to be raped, so I carefully examined the articles on Salon, Buzzfeed, and Huffington Post that were written by professional journalists who pursue truth and justice over mass hysteria and delirium.

What I’ve gathered from the words of these future Pulitzer Prize winners is that women are not getting raped by violent offenders while taking a jog in the park or walking through a dark street—they are getting raped by men they already know, especially at college. I learned that if a man and a woman both drink at a party and have sex, she was in all likelihood raped since she could not give full legal consent. This made me confused because a woman who drinks and has sex is not responsible for her actions, but if that same woman gets into a car and drives it into someone else, causing a loss of life, she would be prosecuted and sent to jail. I couldn’t find an explanation for this inconsistency.

I also read that men must be taught not to rape, which means that they are all born with the capability to rape and have zero instinct to know that taking a woman with violence is improper. Thankfully, a man only has to be told the phrase “rape is bad” at some point after puberty by an overweight feminist to definitively stop his future brutal and bloody rape career. It’s a miracle that more men have not raped their mothers, babysitters, and sisters before being taught in college that rape is actually not a good thing.

I knew from an early age that rape was bad, as was all forms of violence, not just against women but men as well. I also knew that killing, stealing, and having sexual interest in relatives was bad. I don’t remember if someone specifically taught me these rules, but I also don’t remember being taught that the sun rises and sets once a day, or that I will go splat if I jump off a tall building. I don’t know of a single man entering adulthood who thought that rape was good and had to be manually taught it was bad in order to stop him from raping, so when journalists and cultural commentators suggest that the best way to defeat rape culture is to teach men not to rape, I couldn’t possibly agree. I saw a different set of problems instead.

I saw women wholly unconcerned with their own safety and the character of men they developed intimate relationships with. I saw women who voluntarily numbed themselves with alcohol and other drugs in social settings before letting the direction of the night’s wind determine who they would follow into a private room. I saw women who, once feeling awkward, sad, or guilty for a sexual encounter they didn’t fully remember, call upon an authority figure to resolve the problem by locking up her previous night’s lover in prison or ejecting him from school.

By attempting to teach men not to rape, what we have actually done is teach women not to care about being raped, not to protect themselves from easily preventable acts, and not to take responsibility for their actions. At the same time, we don’t hesitate to blame men for bad things that happen to them (if right now you walked into a dangerous ghetto and got robbed, you would be called an idiot and no one would say “teach ghetto kids not to steal”). It was obvious to me that the advice of our esteemed establishment writers and critics wasn’t stopping the problem, and since rape was already on the law books with severe penalties, additional laws or flyers posted on dormitory doors won’t stop this rape culture either.

I thought about this problem and am sure I have the solution: make rape legal if done on private property. I propose that we make the violent taking of a woman not punishable by law when done off public grounds.

The exception for public rape is aimed at those seedy and deranged men who randomly select their rape victims on alleys and jogging trails, but not as a mechanism to prevent those rapes, since the verdict is still out if punishment stops a committed criminal mind, but to have a way to keep them off the streets. For all other rapes, however, especially if done in a dwelling or on private property, any and all rape that happens should be completely legal.

If rape becomes legal under my proposal, a girl will protect her body in the same manner that she protects her purse and smartphone. If rape becomes legal, a girl will not enter an impaired state of mind where she can’t resist being dragged off to a bedroom with a man who she is unsure of—she’ll scream, yell, or kick at his attempt while bystanders are still around. If rape becomes legal, she will never be unchaperoned with a man she doesn’t want to sleep with. After several months of advertising this law throughout the land, rape would be virtually eliminated on the first day it is applied.

Without daddy government to protect her, a girl would absolutely not enter a private room with a man she doesn’t know or trust unless she is absolutely sure she is ready to sleep with him. Consent is now achieved when she passes underneath the room’s door frame, because she knows that that man can legally do anything he wants to her when it comes to sex. Bad encounters are sure to occur, but these can be learning experiences for the poorly trained woman so she can better identify in the future the type of good man who will treat her like the delicate flower that she believes she is. After only one such sour experience, she will actually want to get fully acquainted with a man for longer than two hours—perhaps even demanding to meet his parents—instead of letting a beer chug prevent her from making the correct decisions to protect her body.

The benefits of eradicating rape laws would extend to honest men who unfortunately now live in fear over imprisonment in the case the girl they had sex with had a blood alcohol level of 0.04 instead of 0.05 or some other arbitrary, untested, and made-up value that may imply consent was not fully achieved. There is no more having to guess the interpretation of a woman’s mixed signals or to artificially amp up her base emotions with clownish banter. Because women will never enter a man’s apartment without accepting that sex will happen, he can escort her to his bedroom and romantically consummate a relationship after it was certain he proved himself to be a good and decent man the woman fully trusted. My proposal eliminates anxiety and unfair persecution for men while empowering women to make adult decisions about their bodies.

It turns out that we don’t need more laws, policies, and university propaganda that treat every man like a criminal and every woman like a mild retardate—we need more common sense that can only come from making rape legal. Such a change will provide a mature jolt to American women who have been babied for too long, who are protected and coddled as if they have no agency or intellect of their own. If a woman is indeed a child then maybe we really need to keep promoting “rape culture” as a way to keep them safe, but if they are actual adults, which is often claimed, then we can start treating them like adults by allowing them to take responsibility for the things that happen to them which are easily preventable with barely a strain of cognitive thought, awareness, and self control.

Let’s make rape legal. Less women will be raped because they won’t voluntarily drug themselves with booze and follow a strange man into a bedroom, and less men will be unfairly jailed for what was anything but a maniacal alley rape. Until then, this devastating rape culture will continue, and women who we treat as children will continue to act like children.

Roosh, Roosh V 51 Comments [2/19/2015 3:57:06 AM]
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(1st-6th paragraph) Okay, so far so good, those journalists are kinda sleazy and SJW's have no connection with reality...


(signature) Oh. OH.

2/19/2015 4:19:02 AM


He sure likes attention. This sure got him some.

2/19/2015 5:15:21 AM


*reading* Okay, makes sense, yeah, sure, I see, yes- MAKE RAPE LEGAL? ARE YOU NUTS?

2/19/2015 5:18:57 AM


What an interesting idea! Right after that law is passed, we should train and arm every women with a 9 mm handgun, and the penalty for shooting the dick off of every man who tries to rape them should be reduced to a misdemeanor, like littering.

See, all fixed.

2/19/2015 5:24:29 AM


Like most of the other commenters here my reading went along the lines of
First few paragraphs, OK, that seems reasonable, but it's here so there must be more

5th paragraph, 'teaching men not to rape is teaching women not to be afraid of rape' wow that is pretty bad. Victim blaming, that is not good. Probably why they are here, I will keep reading but won't be surprised anymore.

6th paragraph, SWEET MERCIFUL CRAP, make rape legal? What the hell?

2/19/2015 5:28:14 AM


Jail this piece of shit.

2/19/2015 5:52:22 AM


Better yet, make it legal to rape that piece of human shit. Let's see how he likes the twelfth bottle going into his arse in a day...

2/19/2015 6:51:10 AM


Let me guess...

You raped a woman (or young girl) and she had the unmitigated gall to call the cops on you, yes?

He's right.

2/19/2015 6:52:08 AM

This belongs in the top 100.

But I must say that this comment section is depressing me.

2/19/2015 7:15:10 AM

Doubting Thomas

By attempting to teach men not to rape, what we have actually done is teach women not to care about being raped, not to protect themselves from easily preventable acts

Teaching men and boys to not rape doesn't mean that you also stop teaching women and girls to be careful. Just because we teach drivers to look out for people crossing the street doesn't mean we teach people to step out into the street without looking for cars first. There's always going to be a guy here or there who won't heed the teaching and will take advantage of a girl who's passed out.

Let’s make rape legal. Less women will be raped

Stupid logic. That's like saying making theft legal means less things will get stolen. And anyone advocating making rape legal deserves to be raped with a rusty cactus.

2/19/2015 7:39:44 AM


I always knew Roosh was a misogynistic scumbag,but wow blaming victims for being raped. He crossed theMoral Event Horizon
Big time.

2/19/2015 7:41:59 AM


ANd idiots like this are why it is so difficult for reasonable people to rationally discuss the practicalities of reducing the incidence of rape.

2/19/2015 7:53:59 AM

Goomy pls

Legal rape would end rape culture?

You must yourself be drunk.

2/19/2015 8:03:47 AM

I hope you get raped in prison.

2/19/2015 8:32:10 AM


Hm. Well then. I suppose the main issue with this is lots of rape is already done on private property, and often by people who are known to the victim and/or trusted. The sort of people who would be the sort of protector he advocates. Most often not in any way related to the issue he originally thought could be a sketchy situation for both parties.

He seems to think that raping people at parties (some instances may, in his defense, be sketchy like two drunk people who have sex. Sketchy as in, if she couldn't give consent, neither could he, if she says she was raped, he was too? But as my memory goes, usually those sorts of reports or more drunk victim and sober perp, especially if a drug was used.) but this excludes people who spike peoples drinks, go after the people who have been drinking or not holding their liquor as well, or, you know, simply over power people if there is no alcohol involved.

His premise for making rape legal is "Women can get drunk at group settings and can be preyed upon. Therefore all rape should be legal on private property, because all rape is just like women getting so drunk they can't give consent. My logic is impeccable."

Teaching people not to rape, from what I've seen and I don't really look at too much to be honest has been more "Hey. If people have been drinking heavily, don't ask for sex." or issues when consent could be questionable, like he thinks is not good. It's to avoid those situations. Usually it's not so much "Bashing someone in the head with a club and fucking their unconscious body is bad."

I wonder what sort of comparison would make him see that this is a really dumb idea? Make... theft legal on private property? Murder? Assault? Any of those really just would seem to help out the assholes who would happily engage in such behavior.

2/19/2015 8:39:34 AM


By your logic a 2/10 who you would not bang could violently take you on private property.

2/19/2015 8:50:40 AM


> I saw women who voluntarily numbed themselves with alcohol and other drugs in social settings before letting the direction of the night’s wind determine who they would follow into a private room.

Really? I see stuff getting slipped into drinks.

> If rape becomes legal under my proposal, a girl will protect her body in the same manner that she protects her purse and smartphone.

If theft becomes legal under my proposal, a girl will protect her purse and smartphone in the same manner that she protects her body.

> Without daddy government to protect her, a girl would absolutely not enter a private room with a man she doesn’t know or trust unless she is absolutely sure she is ready to sleep with him. Consent is now achieved when she passes underneath the room’s door frame

Because the only reason a woman would ever want to enter a man's house is to sleep with him.

2/19/2015 8:58:52 AM


Hello, Roosh;

(Paragraphs Six-onwards, to be exact)

Y'know? I someone barged into Roosh's home, tied him up and raped him, would he still think rape is just ducky?

2/19/2015 9:58:23 AM


If a person wanders into a ghetto and gets robbed ..... the robber is STILL GUILTY and will still be prosecuted, and nobody lets him off because the person who was robbed was "asking for it". And nobody will doubt the word of the person who was robbed, either. That's a really, REALLY bad example to use, dingbat!

We have all been warned. Your chances of getting a date have just dropped to zero, but I suspect that's no different than before you posted this hateful screed.

2/19/2015 10:32:51 AM


Thanks for bolding that one little line there, that's all I need to see really.

"Let’s make rape legal. Less women will be raped"

Yeah, no connection to reality here.

2/19/2015 10:38:37 AM

Yossarian Lives

Given that you think date rape druggings are a myth, and your dismissal of rape against the drunk, I would say that you do need to be better educated on the causes of rape and what it actually is, but you're too ignorant to care. You clearly struggle, like many fundies, with the idea of consent, Mr. Douche.

With thanks to social activists there is a better understanding of rape; people are more aware that most rapists aren't boneheads that hide in ten foots to prey on strangers, but because this brings your worldview into murky waters you rally against this. Hence I think education is wasted on you, because I suspect that you do grasp some of the reasoning, at least sub-consciously, but you're so stubborn.

2/19/2015 11:25:48 AM


How can we get him to own Anna Diehl?

2/19/2015 11:38:09 AM


I'm sure Doosh would love making rape legal, considering he's admitted being a rapist.


2/19/2015 11:54:52 AM


Actually, women get raped from ALL sorts of scenarios, and being drunk is NOT an excuse for anyone to have sex with them, man or woman. Yes, people can control their drinking, not condoning drunk behavior, but they can also control not having sex with someone who is obviously impaired.

Most sane men already know that rape is bad, just like murder, as it violates another person and their life.

What is it with rape apologists?

@Sangfroid: I got the guns! $10 for a glock!

2/19/2015 12:08:17 PM

Oh Em Gee

Holy shi-

Oh, it's Rooshputin.

2/19/2015 12:11:30 PM

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