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A group of western tourists who stripped naked at the peak of Mount Kinabalu last month will be prohibited from leaving Malaysia, as their act of "disrespecting the mountain" could have caused the devastating earthquake that killed at least 13 people.

The earthquake measuring 5.9 on the Richter scale struck Sabah's west coast on Friday, causing landslides on Mount Kinabalu, where at least thirteen climbers have so far been confirmed dead.

The earthquake comes a week after a group of foreigners, which included two Canadians, two Dutch and a German national, broke away from their entourage and stripped naked before taking photos at the mountain peak. Sabahans railed against the images, as they consider the mountain sacred and the act of tourists made “mountain spirits mad”.

Deputy Chief Minister of Sabah , Tan Sri Joseph Pairin Kitingan said that the tourists showed disrespect to the sacred mountain and will face appropriate action according to native laws.

"Whether other people believe this or not, it’s what we Sabahans believe. When the earthquake happened, it’s like a confirmation of our beliefs.There is almost certainly a connection. We have to take this as a reminder that local beliefs and customs are not to be disrespected."

Tan Sri Joseph Pairin Kitingan, Digital Journal 25 Comments [6/11/2015 3:39:52 AM]
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Wyzard

While I admire that the Sabahans continue to have their cultural belief, they are dead wrong.

Everyone knows that the earthquake was caused by bible gawd being displeased about something that happened in 'Merica. Jeesh. How simple can it be.

They should know by now that in his dotage, gawd's aim is notoriously off.

6/11/2015 3:43:22 AM

Goomy pls

You are disrespecting their beliefs and should be exiled to Germany.

6/11/2015 3:56:33 AM

Malingspann

"When the earthquake happened, it’s like a confirmation of our beliefs.There is almost certainly a connection. We have to take this as a reminder that local beliefs and customs are not to be disrespected."

Post hoc fallacy is post hoc.

6/11/2015 4:18:16 AM



Why do you "admire" this and laugh at other stuff? Oh right, white guilt. Only evil whitey has to become atheist or they're idiots.

6/11/2015 5:14:59 AM

Doubting Thomas

If I were a mountain spirit, I'd appreciate someone getting naked once in a while.

6/11/2015 5:27:36 AM

Churchy LaFemme

But the mountain gods couldn't have been too upset, or it would have been a 9.5 earthquake, not a 5.9. Maybe they were just aroused, not upset.

6/11/2015 5:50:22 AM

nazani14

The dead climbers were presumably foreigners, so what's the problem?

6/11/2015 8:55:22 AM

Prager

"There is almost certainly a connection."

IN WHICH UNIVERSE? Certainly not this one!

6/11/2015 9:07:06 AM

SpukiKitty

Wouldn't it make more sense that Animist nature spirits actually be fine with naked people?

6/11/2015 9:41:59 AM

Insult to Rocks

So the spiritual representation of a giant phallic mound of rock has a problem with nudity, and therefore earthquakes. Yep, seems reasonable enough evidence to prosecute with.

6/11/2015 10:06:14 AM

Alencon

You know what they say, when in Rome...

6/11/2015 10:39:17 AM

pyro

> Why do you "admire" this and laugh at other stuff?

You only rest the first line of Wyzard's post, didn't you?

6/11/2015 10:41:03 AM

checkmate

their act of "disrespecting the mountain"

Right!

When facing a mountain always wear a suit and tie. And comb your hair. That's very important: comb your hair.

Mountains can be funny about details.

6/11/2015 12:42:08 PM

Tfaddict

This is refreshingly different.

6/11/2015 1:02:16 PM

OHP

The only thing you should be taking is a firm smack to the back of the head.

@#1813612:
Oh look, everyone. It's a failtroll. Everyone point at the failtroll and laugh at its failure. [canned_laughter.wav]

6/11/2015 1:13:40 PM

Meeeh

Groan...

Sigh...

What the fuck is the 21st century anyway?

6/11/2015 2:43:22 PM

Miles Gloriosus

While I'm willing to believe that the mountain has a Genius Loci (as a Cultor Deorum, they factor into my religious beliefs), I seriously doubt that it'd be so offended by exposed western floppy bits that it would cause an earthquake and kill a bunch of unrelated people. Preventing the offenders from leaving the country is ridiculous, even if they were disrespectful and ignorant of local customs.

6/11/2015 4:17:25 PM

Old Viking

Perhaps the mountain considered the incident an act of naked aggression.

6/11/2015 4:48:40 PM



The international media is sensationalising this as 'tourists punished for making mountain god mad'. That is false.

They are being prosecuted for breaching local indecency laws. Mt. Kinabalu is a sacred site of the Kadazandusuns. There are rules in place for against disrespectful behaviour for visitors to the mountain. They're no different from the usual prohibitions against indecency in any place of worship.

Try going naked in St. Paul's Cathedral or pissing on the One World Trade Center. You won't be looked on too kindly by local law enforcement. Same thing here. They would've been arrested quake or no. But then I guess the truth is too boring. The 'Punished for angering mountain god' angle gets more clicks.

6/11/2015 9:09:15 PM

Glandu

Dunno who is the most stupid : the tourists or the people keeping them in a country where they bring unhappiness...

6/12/2015 1:53:01 AM



So lots of disrespectful naked people live around the tectonic plate boundaries? Like the mid-Atlantic ridge and the Aleutian Island chain?


6/12/2015 3:19:19 AM

OHP

@#1813964:
No one is talking about indecency laws, you fucking dunce. It's the attributing of an earthquake to people being naked on a mountain. Obviously if they have reasonable laws prohibiting such behavior then that's a matter of its own. What's being called into question is blaming a fucking earthquake on people taking off their pants.

6/12/2015 7:40:32 AM



@#1813964

The quote says, "There is almost certainly connection" between the quake and the tourists' behavior. It appears that the indecency laws are just the pretence being used to arrest them. It is indeed fundie.

6/12/2015 10:54:14 AM



"We have to take this as a reminder that local beliefs and customs are not to be disrespected."

No, we have to take this as notice that your local authority is too ignorant and backward to be in charge of anything, and tourists should refrain from spending their money there.

There's nothing wrong with making it clear to visitors which sites are considered sacred, and what behavior you expect in those places, as do Italians who post dress requirements at cathedral entrances, and ejecting those who don't comply. But arresting people for causing earthquakes just makes your beliefs too ridiculous to respect.

6/12/2015 11:07:56 AM

Yossarian Lives

These idiots are being a bit presumptive; the mountain may have enjoyed it for all they know.

"The earthquake measuring 5.9 on the Richter scale"

No. It was 5.9 using the moment magnitude scale, not the Richter Scale; seismologists don't tend to use it, as it saturates at higher magnitudes and it was only correlated to the geology in the far western US.

6/12/2015 11:11:39 AM

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