Kerux #fundie

Kerux #fundie donotlink.com

You're confused. The OT Israelites, that is, sons of Israel, or family of Israel, were NOT Jews. Moses was not a jew; Abraham was not a jew: David was not a jew; Jesus was not a jew. Herod, that evil son of a bitch that murdered innocent Israelite (White) male children under two years old, now, he was a jew. So were the hypocritical Pharisees that threatened Pilate politically unless he crucify another innocent White Israelite male, from the line of Judah, Yahshua. And no, jews are not Judah.

Modern day jews have no claim to Palestine whatsoever.

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old comment by Sweetride

Evil Bible Allegation: God endorses slavery. He even set up laws as to how slavery was to be carried out, and goes as far as Okaying beating them. Exodus 21:2-6

The Refiner's Fire Response:

MAN set up the idea of slavery; not God. One has to remember: to conclude that the Bible condones slavery implies something very different today than in ancient times. Why God never gave a command against slavery is unknown, but perhaps it's because there were many good sides to slavery, including selling one's self into slavery in order to get out of debt, which is what many people did. This may not seem just, but in most societies, little extra money or resources existed for social programs, and few poor workers could be tolerated. Historically, slaves were usually prisoners of war that were sold after one side lost-an act that often saved their life because many would have been executed if they were not worth money as slaves God did not command slavery, but told people how to treat their slaves.

According to Got Questions.Org: The Bible does not specifically condemn the practice of slavery. It gives instructions on how slaves should be treated (Deu 15:12-15; Eph 6:9; Col 4:1), but does not outlaw the practice altogether. Many see this as the Bible condoning all forms of slavery. What many people don't understand is that slavery in the Bible times is completely different from the slavery that was practiced in the United States in the 1700's and 1800's. The slavery in the Bible was not based on race at all. People were not enslaved because of their nationality or the color of their skin. In Bible times, slavery was more of a social status. People sold themselves as slaves when they could not pay their debts or provide for their family. In New Testament times, sometimes doctors, lawyers, even politicians were slaves of someone else for one reason or another. Some people actually chose to be slaves so as to have all their needs provided for by their master.

The slavery of the 1700's and 1800's was based on skin color. Black people were considered slaves because of their nationality most slave owners truly believed black people to be "inferior human beings" to white people. This is similar to the slavery the Jews experienced when they were in Egypt. The Jews were slaves, not by choice, but because they were Jews (Exo 13:14). The plagues God poured out on Egypt demonstrate how God feels about racial slavery (Exo 7-11). So, yes, the Bible does condone slavery. However, the slavery the Bible allowed for in no way resembled the racial slavery that plagued our world in the past few centuries.

...One has also to remember that God tolerated many of man's transgressions and, eventually He sent Yeshua/Jesus to be the final sin Sacrifice because it was the ONLY way man could obtain eternal life....

old comment by Sweetride

Evil Bible Allegation: Exodus 22:18 God orders the death of witches, sorceresses and anyone who practices magic. Sadly enough, this verse was justification for the Inquisition.

The Refiner's Fire Response:

What man does that is bad for mankind is his OWN fault. Man is his own worst enemy because he has a limited human mindset. God has tried, from the beginning, to steer man in the RIGHT direction, showing man what is and isn't good for him. From the beginning, God told us that He hates witchcraft, magic, card reading and anything else that dupes people into believing in "other gods".

Leviticus 20:6 says God will separate himself from those who go after mediums and familiar spirits.

Deuteronomy 18:10-12 says that practicing witchcraft, sorcery, soothsaying, interpreting omens, making spells, and being a medium or spiritist, are all terrible sins to God.

Deuteronomy 18:9-11 "Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft..."

old comment by Sweetride

Evil Bible Allegation: Exodus 32:27 God ordered to be killed, 3,000 Israelites for no greater crime than worshipping a golden calf. I don't know about you but death is a pretty harsh f--- punishment.

The Refiner's Fire Response:

Let's get real. YHWH is the Creator of the entire universe. He states over and over again that we are not to worship any other God. As a matter of fact, the First of the Ten Commandments is: Don't have other gods. In Exodus, God had just finished using Moses to rescue His People from Egypt. These people had personally witnessed God using the ten plagues to show the Egyptians whowas in charge; they had personally witnessed themselves crossing the Red Sea safely on dry ground and they had personally witnessed the sea closing over the Egyptians who were in hot pursuit; not to mention the fact that, for 40 years God supernaturally fed them manna! They didn't have to garden, kill animals for food - NOTHING. God had them there for "deprogramming" from the Egyptian "gods" and to show them how HE wanted them to live. So why shouldn't He get mad and kill those who refused to obey Him after all they had witnessed personally? How stupid are people to worship something they concocted themselves after seeing God Himself in action?

old comment by Sweetride

Evil Bible Allegation: Leviticus 20:9-10 God commands death for cursing out ones parents and death for adultery. Gee, with these types of laws the population should be almost nil by now.

The Refiner's Fire Response:

If it hadn't been for Yeshua (whom Christians call Jesus) we would be "almost nil by now"! The only reason YOU get to have your "evil" website is because God doesn't order anyone killed for disobedience or sinning anymore. That punishment will come when you die (which could happen at any time!). Eternity is a long, bubba, in which to reflect on all the reasons you denied God and instead relied on your own, limited human mindset....On the day you're thrown into the "Lake of Fire", you won't have time to complain about God's supposed "injustice" on some website! Your last thoughts will be on the terror you're about to face. At that time you will also realize that GOD doesn't "send" anyone to hell: they send THEMSELVES to hell. God GAVE you a choice and you chose to reject it. Too bad for you!

old comment by OHP

Yeah, yeah, and Adam & Eve were blonde-haired, blue-eyed caucasian christians.

@SpukiKitty:
You mean besides an obsession with Baby Ruth bars?

@Sweetride:
That's the wordiest "nuh uh!" I've ever seen. A little tip: all the words in the world won't do you any good if you don't actually have anything valid to say with them and only a loop of appeals to authority and threats to back your position. The god who punished slips of the tongue or eye "tolerated" an ongoing practice that ran contrary to his will? A practice he, himself repeatedly commanded them to engage in? Give me a fucking a break! You couldn't trick a five-year-old with an excuse that shitty. Hence the threats.

I'm not even sure how to address the rest individually as they lacking sufficient substance to even qualify as "points". Just a lot of the usual "believe or he'll hurt you", which curiously is never observed to happen outside of the stories in the book.

Oh, and you don't get to say "let's get real". Ever.

old comment by SpukiKitty

Hey Spamride! My Deity, the Lord & Lady, can kick your Demiurge's tail! Your HaShem is not real! It's a Demiurge created by a bunch of smelly, misogynist beardies!

You want to know why people throughout the ages rebel against your worthless warlord Demiurge? He's arrogant! Lording over people rather than trying to work with people with sweetness, gentleness & understanding.

People don't respond well to a big tyrant who's a huge killjoy about everything who pounds his big macho patriarchal chest, bellowing "I AM THE LARD YOUR GAWD! I'M DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN OR JUSTIFY WHAT I DO OR HOW I DO IT!"

Your worthless demiurge could just snap it's fingers and destroy sin! But NO! It does things in a round-about way and commits genocide & mass-murder rather than finding far-superior peaceful, gentle, non-violent ways to reform humanity!

Your "god" is a fake and a lie and the Gnostics had the right idea! Jesus was cool but the Hebrew Testament God was a big Satanic impostor....A FUCKING DEMIURGE! THE REAL DEVIL!!

Jesus came to cleanse his Jewish faith of the Demiurgic filth of the old, warmongering, misogynist, genocidal, chest-thumping fuck that was passing itself off as YHVH when it was nothing but a deception of smelly beardy warlords! He wanted to give Judaism a much-needed reboot....but the Romans under Constantine and beyond got in the way!

THE REAL GOD IS LOVE! PEACE! EGALITARIANISM! KINDNESS! SWEETNESS! HUMILITY! HUMANITY! UNDERSTANDING! It is ANDROGYNOUS & UNIVERSAL!

....AND ALL ACTS OF LOVE & PLEASURE ARE HER RITUALS!

I AM A NEOPAGAN & I WILL CLAIM JESUS AS MY OWN!

HOW YA LIKE THAT, SPAMMY?!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPPGjO0Aa3Q
BAYONETTA - 1
DEMIURGE - 0

Now, I admit that some Pagan Pantheons can be just as Demiurgic as BibleGod. The Greco-Roman one tends to be made up of jerks. But I don't need an old Pantheon to be a Pagan. All I need is a Divine Androgyne to follow. Even Pagan Pantheons were polluted by The Demiuge. "The Demiurge" is the man-made distortion of The Divine, a parody or bad caricature, meant as a means for the elite to control the masses.

I REJECT THE FALSE DEMIURGIC-YHVH! I REJECT IT AND BANISH IT TO INFERNO!

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@Sweetride

"At that time you will also realize that GOD doesn't "send" anyone to hell: they send THEMSELVES to hell. God GAVE you a choice and you chose to reject it. Too bad for you!"

Oh really? If it's up to us, if we get to decide where we go then why would anyone go to hell? Nobody would want to ergo nobody would go there, we would be perfectly safe.

Face it, according to you god created hell, god created the criteria by which you go to hell & god enforces those criteria. ERGO GOD IS THE ONE WHO ULTIMATLY SENDS YOU TO BE TORTURED FOR AN ETERNITY FOR TRIVIAL, HARMLESS THINGS!!!!!

AND INSTEAD OF RAPING AN INNOCENT WOMAN AND THEN TORURING HIS OWN SON TO DEATH (which strangely only counts to those who grovel at his feet, go figure), HE COULD HAVE JUST CHANGED HIS OWN CRITERIA TO BE A LOT MORE REASONABLE AND JUST!!!!! SO STOP WITH THE CRAP THAT YOUR GOD WANTS TO HELP US, BECAUSE EVERYTHING HE ACCORDING TO YOU DOES POINTS TO HIM BEING AN EVIL MONSTER THAT ENJOYS SUFFERING88!!!

At least Annah Diehl's honest about that part.

...Sorry everybody else, but I really, really, really hate that argument.

Kerux #fundie donotlink.com

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