Quote# 113557

book has been written by Patricia Sexton called The Feminized Male. Half of America’s guns are owned by women. Long Island has a firegirl in their fire department. The military academy is now co-educational. There are now girls in the Boy Scouts. On the board of the Y.M.C.A. there are four women. One social expert has said, “By the year 2,000, Father will do the dishes and wash the diapers while Mom washes the car and mows the lawn.”

Along with this trend is the trend of naming boys and girls the same names. Now I don’t mean to be unkind, but if you are going to name a girl “Jack,” put an “i-e” on it and make it “Jackie” or add an “a-l-y-n” and make it “Jacalyn.”

When a little boy is born, we let him grow long hair and look like a girl, (now I’m going to make someone mad here) we name him Francis, (and one of the best friends I have in this world is named Francis) we curl his hair and put him in what we call a diaper shirt, (which is no more than a dress) and then we wonder why he turns out to be a sissy! Brother, when a boy gets home from the hospital, put him in blue jeans and cut his hair! If you don’t, he’s going to grow up and look like some of you Samsons sitting here in this room tonight!

jack hyles, JESUS IS SAVIOR 49 Comments [10/13/2015 3:37:06 AM]
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OH! forsakes

10/12/2015 9:53:08 AM

Kuno

So this is the guy DJS gets his worldview from. Why am I not surprised.

Is he saying that being what he considers feminine is the default, unless you condition a person otherwise from infancy? Seriously, if “masculinity” is something so unnatural that you have to force it on little children through clothes and haircuts, maybe we should abandon it altogether.

10/13/2015 4:15:57 AM

Exatron

I'm not really seeing a problem here.

10/13/2015 4:22:25 AM



I thought Samson was supposed to be a big hero?

10/13/2015 4:28:32 AM



Samsom was supposed to be a great guy in the Bible but whatever

10/13/2015 4:38:51 AM

Malingspann

jack hyles: "When a little boy is born, we let him grow long hair and look like a girl, (now I’m going to make someone mad here) we name him Francis, (and one of the best friends I have in this world is named Francis) we curl his hair and put him in what we call a diaper shirt, (which is no more than a dress) and then we wonder why he turns out to be a sissy! Brother, when a boy gets home from the hospital, put him in blue jeans and cut his hair! If you don’t, he’s going to grow up and look like some of you Samsons sitting here in this room tonight!"

Someone sitting in the room: "Samson? According to the Bible he had super strength *exactly because* he never cut his hair! He defeated an enemy army, 'killed a thousand men', single-handedly with only a donkey jaw bone for a weapon!"

jack hyles (capital A Annoyed): "That never happened! It's made up!! Long hair is for girls!!!!"

10/13/2015 4:59:42 AM

Frogflayer

Marion would like a word

10/13/2015 5:03:34 AM

Indicible

Could we trot out the old-timey photographs with boys in dresses?
As for long hairs, I would love to see that idiot ranting in front of a room full of metalheads. He would see how much of a sissy a horde of growling Nordic men can be.

10/13/2015 5:30:05 AM

Mister Spak

"By the year 2,000, Father will do the dishes and wash the diapers while Mom washes the car and mows the lawn.”


And mom will wear pants and that will make him lust after mom and turn him gay at the same time.

10/13/2015 5:40:11 AM

Churchy LaFemme

“By the year 2,000, Father will do the dishes and wash the diapers while Mom washes the car and mows the lawn.”

And this is a problem because ....? My brothers and I learned to wash dishes when we were six years old, back in the 1950s. The woman across the street is always the one who mows the lawn, because she enjoys it and her husband doesn't.

10/13/2015 5:51:45 AM

Oxymoron's Razor

<if you are going to name a girl “Jack,” put an “i-e” on it and make it “Jackie” or add an “a-l-y-n” and make it “Jacalyn.”>

Subject Zero, AKA Jack, from the Mass Effect games would like a word or two. Specifically "F**k You" before she telekinetically tosses you through a wall.

<when a boy gets home from the hospital, put him in blue jeans and cut his hair! If you don’t, he’s going to grow up and look like some of you Samsons sitting here in this room tonight!>

Fun factoid, Jackie: Originally pink was the designated colour for boys and blue for girls. The story goes that a fairly powerful English monarch was expecting a child of one specific gender and had everything ready in that colour. Then baby is born and surprise! It's the gender other than expected. Since then it has been blue for boys and pink for girls to cover for that mistake.

The lesson? Cultural standards change (evolve, even, to use the fundies' boogey-word) so that what was once masculine or feminine may not always stay the same.
Now repeat this next bit ad nauseam until you get it: And there is nothing wrong with that.

10/13/2015 5:54:15 AM

Hakar

Or you could put 'Apple' in front of it and get best pony.

10/13/2015 6:03:23 AM

Musicalbookworm

A firegirl you say and women in the military academies. When did this new fangeled progress occur? Have you seen how they used to dress baby boys? I'll be that would give you the vapors and cause you to retreat to your fainting couch.

10/13/2015 6:19:26 AM

Swede

Yeah, because Samson was a real sissy, right?

When my grandfather was born in 1910, boys and girls were dressed about the same way, in a frock/tunic kind of garment, and half-long hair. I think it was about the same in all of Europe, not a Swedish thing. His generation still managed to grew up to fight in the WWII.

Old Hylie was wrong about at least one thing (and probably a hundred other things, beside that): almost no-one washed diapers in the year 2000.

10/13/2015 6:34:16 AM

BattyCakes

My younger brother used to have naturally curly hair before was ten. My parents didn't do that on purpose, I assure you.
He certainly wouldn't be mistaken for a "sissy" now, but whatever.

Your world sounds kind of boring.

Joyce and Shirley were originally prominently male names, but once people used them more for girls, they became too "feminine", as if that's a terrible thing.
Stop limiting these things, or you'll end up with almost nothing, and probably try to make up for it in really stupid ways.

10/13/2015 6:37:42 AM

Frank

I find it odd that an American would decry long hair.

Wild Bill Hickok, Buffalo Bill Cody, General Custer, Sitting Bull, Crazy Horse, Davey Crockett, in fact any number of legendary characters of from American history had long hair and I doubt you could call them sissies to their faces and expect to live.

Also I've never seen an image of Christ with a buzzcut.

Of course it's all moot as good ol' Jack has long gone to the great barbers in the sky.

10/13/2015 6:39:09 AM

Dizzy Dripping

What's wrong with men changing the baby or doing the dishes? Or women mowing the lawn and washing the car? These are still household chores that need doing.

Why do fundies live in this land where men have never done any child rearing? Heck, if a woman died in childbirth, chances are her husband would have no choice but to do the child rearing.

10/13/2015 6:40:37 AM

breakerslion



Also:



President Calvin Coolidge in a dress, as were many male babies of his time.

10/13/2015 6:41:39 AM

KittyKaboom

How did you get to be a minister without knowing (or understanding) the story about Samson?


10/13/2015 6:42:16 AM

Doubting Thomas

One social expert has said, “By the year 2,000, Father will do the dishes and wash the diapers while Mom washes the car and mows the lawn.”

What the hell is wrong with that? "Women's work" is so 1950's.

And who the hell washes diapers these days? I'm assuming that quote was probably back from the 1950's, back when they predicted all sorts of things for the future, all of it wrong. Like flying cars, jetpacks, moon bases, etc. They couldn't foresee that people would have disposable diapers.

10/13/2015 6:54:21 AM



The problem here is that these guys, fundies of any ilk, are terribly obsessed with labels(what kind of labels vary)and, as my old philosophy teacher said parodying the "a priory" category system Kant proposed used to say "so, if the data don't fit the system, go fuck yourself data" (roughly translated from Spanish). They can become fanatically obsessed with people that don't fit those preconceived categories more blatantly since they are the ones that disprove the theory at most.

10/13/2015 7:04:32 AM



Actually, this quote is kind of sad because this obsession with feminity bullshit destroyed my relationship with my grandma. To put it in context, it happened in the mid nineties and my Spanish grandmother was extremely uneducated from a very small village in the Spanish countryside. She wanted me to be a model and to date a guy, at sixteen, fourteen years my senior who was an engineer and thought he was interested in me, to my parents' horror. When I told her that my plans were either biology or linguistics in order to be either a professor/teacher, researcher or transistor, the poor idiot asked me, for starters, what I meant with translator or researcher, teacher option, a job she was more familiar with, was scolded with this, she thought, unique insight, "teaching is for the ugly women, not like you". I replied it was rubbish but the problem is that it was used by my cousins to humilliate her in public. My parents told me that, at the time of my grandma, and probably thanks to idiots like the OP, any respectable woman shouldn't take a man's job and Heaven forbids if a man, for example, painted or sewed. So, yes, in my case it's personal

10/13/2015 7:18:03 AM

Azereaux

You're seriously calling Samson a sissy? RTFM, you jackass...

What about that long-haired guy... what was his name? I think it's in your site name. Jesus? Was he a sissy because of his attire and long hair?

This is too much stupid for this early...

10/13/2015 7:46:32 AM

Kanna

If masculine interpretation is this superficial, it only corresponds to superficial masculinity. I think what you mean is that YOU don't want to go to the trouble to meet real people, you want those symbols to tell you all you want to know. Lazy Jacquie!

10/13/2015 7:51:25 AM

SpukiKitty

@Malingspann
You just said what I was going to say.


@FrogFlayer
And YOU...have made my day, already and I just woke up (as of this writing).


@Hakar

....That was darn tootin', sugarcube!


@Frank
...or "Underground", in Jack's case. He was scum.
SATAN: "How'd ya like a perm like Syd Barrett? We'll dye it pink with lavender highlights! You'll look FAAAAABULOUS!"
JACK (a la Darth Vader): "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"


@ #1870518
*EPIC HUGGIES* Sorry about your Grandmother.


BACK TO THE OP....

Yo! See this pretty little girl?


....That's NO GIRL! That's a boy! That's....


....THE 32nd PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT!

(I know. Similar to the Coolidge argument...but FDR looked a lot more 'girly' and therefore an even better example.)

10/13/2015 7:55:52 AM

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