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Russell Moore, president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, commented on the religious liberty victory surrounding Prop. 1, an initiative on the Houston Equal Rights Ordinance that was rejected Tuesday after a nearly 18-month battle.

“Months ago, when Mayor Parker attempted to subpoena the sermons of Houston pastors, I argued then that the preaching of the church of God does not belong to the government and we will not hand it over. Not now. Not ever. Here, the people of Houston have spoken and said the same is true of the conscience. The defeat of this proposition ensures that the consciences of men and women will not be steamrolled, and that unsuspecting citizens will not be put into vulnerable situations.”

Russell Moore, Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission 13 Comments [12/2/2015 4:03:35 PM]
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Old Viking

You've got to be kidding. You can get The Sermons of Houston Pastors in our local drugstore. They're in the sleep aid section.

12/2/2015 5:22:06 PM


I hope that the IRS pays these churches a visit undercover. If they're preaching politics, they should yank their tax exempt status faster than a fundy can move a goal post.

12/2/2015 5:30:42 PM


I just love it when you get all blustery, indignant, and defiant!

12/2/2015 8:11:49 PM

Okkk...what are they arguing about?

12/2/2015 8:16:48 PM


But for non Christians you'd be 100% for them handing over sermons. And I'd bet your sermons are political too

12/2/2015 8:37:58 PM


"religious liberty victory"....the defeat of an "Equal Rights Ordinance"....hmm, I don't think "liberty" means what they think it means.

12/2/2015 8:41:41 PM

Thinking Allowed

The defeat of this proposition ensures that the consciences of men and women will not be steamrolled, and that unsuspecting citizens will not be put into vulnerable situations.

Congratulations, you failed at protecting unsuspecting citizens.

12/2/2015 9:24:07 PM

Grey Rook

@KingofRhye : To the fundamentalists, "religious liberty" means the freedom to oppress and destroy everyone and everything that is different from them. This is a constant.

12/3/2015 2:33:55 AM

Doubting Thomas

I wish I could find the church sign that says "True Christians don't vote for liberals" to post here. I don't think that churches should have to hand over copies of their sermons, but they should quickly lose their tax-exempt status when they tell people who to vote for.

And yet they're all in favor of shutting down mosques because they're supposedly preaching terrorism against America.

12/3/2015 7:58:23 AM



Again, sorry.

Sometimes, idiots hit people with enough signs and scare ads that they herd to the polls to do what they're told.

Though this does add to my cringing anytime WBC comes up. Just bear in mind: the same Convention that this guy is presiding over the Ethics commission of KICKED THEM OUT for being assholes.

But yeah, once again, on behalf of Houston, sorry, all. And an apology for Michael Savage just to be safe (in case he added to his small mountain of stupidity).

12/3/2015 8:10:51 AM


Preaching candidate advocacy in a tax-exempt church is a violation of tax law. Even Jesus paid his taxes.

12/3/2015 11:17:20 AM


Background: Houston was trying to pass a bill that would consolidate multiple anti-discrimination laws into a single law and add protections against discrimination on the basis of gender identity and sexual orientation to the mix.
Quite a few pastors spoke out against this ordinance from the pulpit, and the Mayor's office subpoenaed their sermons to prove that they were illegally interfering with the votes.

In the end the ordinance failed because a conservative groups managed to put out enough ads claiming that the entire bill boiled down to allowing male pedophiles to dress up as women and molest little girls in public bathrooms.
I wish I was making that last part up

12/3/2015 2:13:54 PM

Dr. Razark

I'm just waiting until my mother-in-law starts complaining about finding this person in the women's restroom.

Because that's what she was voting for.

12/3/2015 2:40:52 PM

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