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Evolution cannot explain where mankind's sin-nature entered the alleged evolutionary process. Evolutionists teach that men and animals evolved from the same biological life source. If this were true, then why don't animals have sin natures? Why don't animals have a moral conscious? Why don't animals built alters and worship in churches? All people of every nation throughout history have sought God. Even the Wiccan witches have hundreds of pagan gods which they worship. History records primitive cultures sacrificing their children to alligators in worship of their pagan gods. The FACT that mankind by nature NEEDS a supreme power over him is proof that there is a GOD. Where did mankind develop this desperate need for a supreme power to rule over him? How can the evolutionists reconcile man's sinful nature and need for God with evolution? It's clear that evolution cannot this phenomena.

Evolution, even if it were true, does not explain where man's ability to commit evil. How could a simple one-cell living organism "evolve" into an intelligent human being who commits horrible acts of evil? The Bible tells us that sin entered into the world through the sin of Adam... "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned" (Romans 5:12). Now that makes a lot more sense to me than the bogus theory of evolution which offers NO EXPLANATION for man's wickedness. The Bible addresses man's sinfulness and remedy in Christ Jesus. The unsaved world prefers to ignore the reality of sin; yet all their "experts" cannot explain why people do what they do. The Word of God plainly gives us the answer; but the world rejects it because of their love for sin (John 3:20). When John Wayne Gacy was executed (15-years after sodomizing and murdering 33 young boys in Illinois), scientists dissected his brain to search for abnormalities. They found a normal brain. If they had even a basic understanding of the Bible, they would have known that the problem was in his heart... "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" Mankind is inherently evil and rotten to the core.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 22 Comments [12/26/2015 8:28:05 PM]
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Not the sharpest tool in the shed...

12/26/2015 9:19:51 PM

Insult to Rocks

Sin nature, Stewart? Just...just say Original Sin, okay? Don't dance around it, because the answers will still be the same. Sin, in that meaning, is non-existent. Morality and religious tendencies are a result of our hightened pattern observation and social natures.

12/26/2015 9:23:52 PM

sickofthebullshit

Sin does not exist, therefore your sin-nature thing is bullshit

12/26/2015 9:36:17 PM

freako104

David fails again

12/26/2015 10:43:22 PM

brazenTyrant

Evolution cannot explain where mankind's sin-nature entered the alleged evolutionary process.
It can, actually. You just don't like the answer. Most of the behaviours classified as 'sins' occur because at some point in our history they provided an evolutionary advantage. For instance, the reason so many people like pornography is that a high sex drive increases the chance of an organism successfully reproducing.
Why don't animals built alters and worship in churches?
Because they're not intelligent enough to understand the concept of a supreme being.
The FACT that mankind by nature NEEDS a supreme power over him is proof that there is a GOD.
1. No, it doesn't.
2. Even if it did, that doesn't prove it's your god.
3. Plenty of people can live just fine without belief in gods.
Evolution, even if it were true, does not explain where man's ability to commit evil. How could a simple one-cell living organism "evolve" into an intelligent human being who commits horrible acts of evil?
At some point in its evolutionary history, that organism entered a period where it needed to be ruthless and cruel in order to survive, and that behaviour isn't easy to eliminate. You can see animals that are still in similar situations throughout nature. We just don't call it 'evil' for a number of reasons.
The Bible tells us that sin entered into the world through the sin of Adam... "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned" (Romans 5:12). Now that makes a lot more sense to me than the bogus theory of evolution which offers NO EXPLANATION for man's wickedness.
The idea that evil exists because a supposedly perfectly benevolent being made an arbitrary rule and then tricked someone into breaking it makes sense to you?

12/26/2015 11:04:11 PM

Anon-e-moose

David J. Stewart detected in the first six words.

...damn, but this DJS meter by Yaesu is good!

12/26/2015 11:12:12 PM

Raspberry

"If this were true, then why don't animals have sin natures?"

David reminds me of a documentary I can't recall the name of. At some point it shows a place where five or six species of monkeys live in relative harmony. Each of these species typically lives at a different level in the canopy or prefer specific types of trees and conditions in this area are just right for them to live kinda stacked like an apartment complex without too much trouble. This has been going on for some time and the film documents how some species of monkeys have learned and can speak or imitate another species language, danger calls when a predator is nearby and the like. Obviously there is high competition in the area for fruit and whatnot, so when an individual would spot a piece of fruit on the forest floor it might essentially lie by making a danger call in it's own language and then danger call in another to scare everyone else back or further up into the canopy thereby increasing it's chances at getting that piece of fruit to itself and perhaps time to scarf it down with out being molested or having it stolen by a larger or more aggressive individual.

It makes is quite apparent that along with the benefits of species developing as a social one, there are clear advantages for the individuals to occasionally use deceptive tactics as a matter of individual survival ability or even the passing on of your genes if you also consider what various species will do in order to get laid. There is as wide and diverse range of behaviors and qualities of consciousness as there are physical traits and the spectrum of diversity within each of those is astonishing. You can pretend there is some sort of line between "man" and "animal" all you like but to do so is to deny what can easily be observed if one doesn't have their head in the sand. Other forms of deception occur within social groups that even David would have no complaint about or would label as "sin." Consider the statement "No, Mr. Nazi soldier, there are no Jews hiding in my attic."

You can label deceptions and behaviors as sin or label them right or wrong if you like but it's really just part of the way life developed and there is a lot of fuzzy and gray. I think the only real choice we have is to attempt to evaluate these actions as objectively as we can with respect to the harm they cause, aiming for the least amount of harm possible. Trying to look at everything as black and white is futile and as usual David is full of nonsense.

Edit: David also talks about Gacy's brain and how doctors found it to be "normal" which really just means there were no outstanding physical differences like tumors, lesions, or underdeveloped areas. This says nothing about the functioning of his brain, as in what would be considered "normal" brain wiring (which we don't have the technology to fully model and compare just yet) or chemical processes and whether they might be insufficient or skewed in certain areas. A sociopath or other persons afflicted with a disorder don't have a problem in the "heart" but a problem with development and function, or at the very least are on the extreme edges of variation.

Jesus isn't going to "enter" their "heart" and poof that problem away anymore than people are going to stop lying for him.

12/26/2015 11:34:20 PM

keppie

Everyone who has owned a dog has observed the animal take food that it was not supposed to (or at least the aftermath). This is stealing, a "sin." I've even seen my dogs look guilty when they've done something I would have disapproved of. Cats, on the other hands, maintain a "butter wouldn't melt in my mouth" look despite clear evidence. :)

Where "morals' enters the picture is when creatures are living together. Creatures that don't live together don't care how they treat others. But if a wolf in a pack were to take food that wasn't his, he might be stopped by a higher ranking wolf, so there are some rules there, too. To me, that shows the evolution of social rules. Higher intelligence indicates higher development of social and ethical rules, so our rules will be more complex.

Scientists would simply agree with the theologians that humans are imperfect, and make mistakes. And in the case of evil such as Gacy, there's a lot more to studying that case than whether his brain appeared medically normal or not as detectable by existing science.


12/27/2015 1:16:49 AM

solomongrundy

Mankind is inherently evil and rotten to the core.

Speak for yourself, kiddie-fiddler.

12/27/2015 2:23:39 AM

Malingspann

"Mankind is inherently evil and rotten to the core."

Makes me think of the TV Tropes entry Then Let Me Be Evil.

A lot of people *incorrectly* assumes that someone is evil, a villain, just because of this person's family background, looks, sexual orientation, [add your own] and dismisses out of hand any evidence to the contrary.

Finally, this person snaps out of frustration, lashing out in anger. The others claim this as proof that they were right all along.

12/27/2015 2:43:19 AM

Doubting Thomas

Evolution cannot explain where mankind's sin-nature entered the alleged evolutionary process.

That's like saying that the Theory of Relativity can't explain the speed of magic.

12/27/2015 7:54:22 AM

Kanna

Animals can be sneaky, jealous, war-like, murderous, and ashamed of their actions. The only difference is that they don't try to justify it with a book.

12/27/2015 12:29:04 PM

pyro

> Evolution cannot explain where mankind's sin-nature entered the alleged evolutionary process.

And my calculator won't keep my food cold!


> Evolutionists teach that men and animals evolved from the same biological life source. If this were true, then why don't animals have sin natures?

You haven't met my sister's parrot. That thing's a greedy bitey jerk.


> Why don't animals have a moral conscious?

You haven't met my grandparents' dogs. They are very aware of when they've done something right and wrong.


> Why don't animals built alters and worship in churches?

Good question. Why don't animals seem to believe in gods?


> All people of every nation throughout history have sought God. Even the Wiccan witches have hundreds of pagan gods which they worship.

How about before Sumer?


> History records primitive cultures sacrificing their children to alligators in worship of their pagan gods. The FACT that mankind by nature NEEDS a supreme power over him is proof that there is a GOD. Where did mankind develop this desperate need for a supreme power to rule over him? How can the evolutionists reconcile man's sinful nature and need for God with evolution? It's clear that evolution cannot this phenomena.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Psychological+explanations+for+theism


> Evolution, even if it were true, does not explain where man's ability to commit evil. How could a simple one-cell living organism "evolve" into an intelligent human being who commits horrible acts of evil?

Are you trying to tell me that evolution doesn't explain selfishness?


> The Bible tells us that sin entered into the world through the sin of Adam... "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned" (Romans 5:12). Now that makes a lot more sense to me than the bogus theory of evolution which offers NO EXPLANATION for man's wickedness.

PFFFTHAHAHAHAHAGAHAHAHAHAHAHSHSHAGAHAGA!

Where did Adam get his sin nature from?


> The Bible addresses man's sinfulness and remedy in Christ Jesus. The unsaved world prefers to ignore the reality of sin; yet all their "experts" cannot explain why people do what they do. The Word of God plainly gives us the answer; but the world rejects it because of their love for sin (John 3:20). When John Wayne Gacy was executed (15-years after sodomizing and murdering 33 young boys in Illinois), scientists dissected his brain to search for abnormalities. They found a normal brain. If they had even a basic understanding of the Bible, they would have known that the problem was in his heart... "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?" Mankind is inherently evil and rotten to the core.

Why do I worry that you might actually think the heart is the seat of emotion?,

12/27/2015 1:48:00 PM

HotaruSobotka

History records primitive cultures sacrificing their children to alligators in worship of their pagan gods.

Citation please.

12/27/2015 2:21:55 PM

KingOfRhye

"Evolutionists teach that men and animals evolved from the same biological life source."

Man IS an animal, we just happen to be the smartest ones. Well, after the dolphins and the mice, if you know your Douglas Adams...

12/27/2015 3:51:12 PM

creativerealms

Evolution does not have to. It does not have to deal with morality of concepts like sin.

12/27/2015 3:51:17 PM

Phil O'Macedon

We all fail to be the best we can be now and then, and humans produce sociopaths now and then. That's why we have laws. We don't need a second set of unofficial laws adjudicated by self righteous holy types, who often turn out to be hypocritical charlatans, and who wear their disdain for people who are different from them like a badge of honor.

12/27/2015 8:43:21 PM

Mister SPak

"Evolution, even if it were true, does not explain where man's ability to commit evil."

Where did your ability to commit evil come from Stewie?

12/28/2015 6:36:26 AM

Canadiest

"All people of every nation throughout history have sought God."

Not only doesn't that deem it as the right thing but the statement isn't even true. Stewart himself loses his teeny mind over nature worshippers of today and our ancient history is loaded with animal and elements worship before any Gods were imagined.

And churches? Those are the con-stars of deity creation, once you establish all powerful Blue Ernie, or some such shit, some ass, like Stewart will come along and claim he's Blue Ernies emissary on Earth. Don't believe in Blue Ernie Dave? well, why the hell not?

12/28/2015 7:04:38 AM

Daspletosaurus

Ignoring the fact that sin is a manmade concept, many species murder, rape, steal, etc.

12/28/2015 7:46:05 AM



keppie and everyone else
Can dogs and other nonhuman animals feel guilt?
http://www.livescience.com/3669-guilty-dog-myth.html

http://www.sciencealert.com/dogs-may-look-ashamed-but-they-don-t-feel-guilt-experts-sayDo other

animals have morals?
http://m.pnas.org/content/109/37/14824

http://m.pnas.org/content/104/32/13046.abstract

http://www.strangenotions.com/are-animals-moral/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animal-emotions/201403/do-dogs-really-feel-guilt-or-shame-we-really-dont-know

http://www.equip.org/article/monkey-morality-can-evolution-explain-ethics/

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