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Nostradamus predictions for 2017: Terrifying forewarnings of 16th century prophet revealed
Nostradamus prophecies have baffled experts down the ages with their astonishing accuracy - and as n 2017 dawns we look at what the fabled sooth sayer has in store for us this year.

Michel de Nostredame was a 16th century French philosopher who, according to followers, has predicted many historical events including 9/11, the rise of Hitler and Donald Trump’s presidential victory.

After a year full of surprises and political upsets, believers have looked once again to Nostradamus’ writings to try to predict what the new year will bring.

Look through the photo gallery at the top of this story to find out what Nostradamus’ followers believe could happen around the world in 2017.

On the world stage, China could make bold moves to cure the “economic imbalance” in the world with far-reaching effects, according to believers.

Italy could face financial hardship with rising unemployment and loans making it the “epicentre” of a fresh eurozone crisis.

The country looks set to experience economic turmoil and a deepening banking crisis in the wake the Italian referendum result and Matteo Renzi’s decision to resign.

The “current superpower”, believed to be a reference to the US, is expected to become increasingly ungovernable and incompetent in the year that Mr Trump enters office.

Another prophecy is said to predict a new truce between Russia and Ukraine, which will be opposed by the US but embraced by the EU.

In Latin America, Governments are forecast to move away from left-wing policies, which will help set the stage for potential civil unrest.

The most terrifying of the alleged prophecies is a “Hot War” over global warming and diminishing resources, with the greatest threats said to be biological warfare and terrorism.

In terms of technology, Nostradamus predicted that cloud computing would simply become known as computing, solar power would become more widespread, and commercial space travel would take off with orbital flights around the Earth.

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Malingspann

"Michel de Nostredame was a 16th century French philosopher who, according to followers, has predicted many historical events including 9/11, the rise of Hitler and Donald Trump’s presidential victory."

Surely you can't be serious.

1/9/2017 12:00:41 PM



Ah the Daily Express, always a reasonable, well thought out "newspaper"

1/9/2017 12:03:18 PM

dxdydz

Why is it that we only find out that Nostradamus predicted these things now? Why didn't we know he predicted these things when he wrote down his predictions?

Oh right, because it's bullshit.

1/9/2017 12:31:25 PM

creativerealms

Cstdt

1/9/2017 12:32:37 PM

Thinking Allowed

At the beginning of football season, my prediction for who will go to the Superbowl has been 100 percent right. A team from the NFC and a team from the AFC will be there.

That's just about how predictable any prophecy is.

1/9/2017 12:38:07 PM

Kanna

Italy could face financial hardship with rising unemployment and loans making it the “epicentre” of a fresh eurozone crisis.
...
The “current superpower”, believed to be a reference to the US, is expected to become increasingly ungovernable and incompetent in the year that Mr Trump enters office.
...
In Latin America, Governments are forecast to move away from left-wing policies, which will help set the stage for potential civil unrest.


In other words, Nostradamus, who is not present to say "No, no, that's not what I meant!" is interpreted to say exactly the kind of thing that any other student of international policy would say. Just a little bit like "god" in that respect.

1/9/2017 1:00:47 PM

SpukiKitty

I'm sick of Nostradamus!

Now; He may have had some sort of psychic gift (and was actually a very good physician who was ahead of his time concerning things like cleanliness and such) but all the stuff written about him and his predictions have been exaggerated, fabricated, over-hyped, mistranslated and mangled beyond recognition that it's hard to really find anything that he really wrote or meant.

He's become a big cash cow of B.S....like The Loch Ness Monster or Ancient Aliens. It's ridiculous.


1/9/2017 1:25:36 PM

Hasan Prishtina

To think that in the 1940s the Daily Express had some of the greatest people anywhere in the newspaper industry working for it. Now all it has is left is Rupert the Bear, a Brexit obsession and National Enquirer-style crap like this.

1/9/2017 2:18:04 PM

Uilleam

When your prophecies are vague enough, any event can be read as them coming true.

1/9/2017 2:19:36 PM

Creedence Leonore Gielgud

>Nostradamus predicted that cloud computing

aka using other people's computers.

>would simply become known as computing

Which makes sense, because that is what it is, only using other people's computers instead of one's own. Sorry, but you fell for the meme.

1/9/2017 3:44:32 PM

KingOfRhye

This is just utter BS. Nostradamus only gave specific dates for a handful of his predictions (most of which he got wrong) and 2017 was certainly never mentioned. And the article doesn't give an references to particular quatrains, so it's just really "some people said Nostradamus said so-and-so..."

1/9/2017 3:52:59 PM

dxdydz

@Spuki

Before one can reasonably claim he might have had such an ability one would need to demonstrate that such abilities exist first. Considering that his 'predictions' are incredibly vague and can be shoehorned into almost anything I think it's safe for me to say that there is no point in invoking unsubstantiated phenomena like psychic or precognitive abilities.

In general I think we should only try to explain something when we're confident that there is something to explain. E.g. we don't try to explain why apples fall up because we've never observed apples falling up. And we don't need to suggest some new phenomena to explain how Nostradamus came up with his predictions because they're lousy predictions.

1/9/2017 3:55:32 PM

Anon-e-moose

Has Dennis Markarzi escaped from the nut farm? He thought he was Nostradumbass.

I'll accept that a long dead Frenchman 'predicted' things when he describes in precise detail what'll be the next format after Blu-Ray.

1/9/2017 4:11:33 PM

The Reptilian Jew

I love how he's trying to sound authentic by vaguely saying "the current superpower", but then turns around and talks about cloud computing and bioterrorism in exact detail. If you want to present a bullshit made up prophecy at least keep it consistent.

1/9/2017 4:15:49 PM

Old Viking

Sorry, pal, but somebody's jerking you around pretty good.

1/9/2017 4:38:51 PM

Shepard Solus

Show fucking ANY of those predictions.

1/9/2017 4:45:45 PM



It's funny how you never hear of a Nostradamus prediction until after the fact.

1/9/2017 6:45:13 PM

Hasher

As usual, the "clear" prediction of Trump's victory is visible only in hindsight. The rest are just halfway reasonable guesses tacked on to any quatrain that can be twisted to fit-apart from the technology part which is ridiculous!

The express should stick to reporting the death of Princess Di, at least after almost two decades they can be sure that the basic fact about that is right.

1/9/2017 7:56:32 PM

Enlightened Seer

Nostradamus was a shill of Satan! Only I have true angelic overseers that guide me unfailingly to wherever I must go.

The fact that I don't know where I am at the moment must therefore be my own failing rather than theirs.

I predict, with the help of my angelic overseers, that Donald Trump will become the next president of the USA. Obama will reveal that he was born in Kenya and is a devout Muslim (which we all knew anyway), and more pointedly and ominously, there will be a fatal shooting somewhere within the USA.

I also predict that the person known as Anon-e-moose will post many pictures on this site, including a pink tank, women with guns, and various military hardware. The one known as SpukiKitty will post pictures of male 1970s rock singers with bare chests, and the one known as TimeToTurn will annoy some of the other commenters with bigoted and intolerant comments.

I also predict that I will become known on the incel sites due to the loss of my Japanese girlfriend to some Spanish-speaking poncho-wearing catholic heathen hell-bound so-called church person.

In the meantime I have some catching up to do with the videos of Taylor Swift.

1/10/2017 4:45:47 AM

Mister Spak

Nostradumbass.

1/10/2017 5:41:56 AM

Doubting Thomas

You mean people still believe in Nostradamus' "predictions?"

1/10/2017 6:48:15 AM

Philbert McAdamia

"Could be", "is believed to be". "some say", "my sources report", . . .
Nostradamus was almost as spot on as Criswell. "Terrifying predictions".
Pffft

However, I do like the OP putting these two together;
the rise of Hitler and Donald Trump’s presidential victory.

1/10/2017 7:00:01 AM

Azereaux

"On the world stage, China could make bold moves to cure the “economic imbalance” in the world with far-reaching effects, according to believers."

I'll believe it when I see it. Seems counter to their current strategy of the last decade or so.

"Italy could face financial hardship with rising unemployment and loans making it the “epicentre” of a fresh eurozone crisis.

The country looks set to experience economic turmoil and a deepening banking crisis in the wake the Italian referendum result and Matteo Renzi’s decision to resign."

So some believers watch financial news, then?

"The “current superpower”, believed to be a reference to the US, is expected to become increasingly ungovernable and incompetent in the year that Mr Trump enters office."

Again, doesn't take a master prognosticator to figure this one out. Just look at his past, look at his decision making leading up to inauguration, look at the Congress he has to work with, and the picture paints itself.

"Another prophecy is said to predict a new truce between Russia and Ukraine, which will be opposed by the US but embraced by the EU."

Calling half and half on this one. Putin's buddy Trump and friendly cabinet will approve.

"In Latin America, Governments are forecast to move away from left-wing policies, which will help set the stage for potential civil unrest."

Anyone watching Venezuela has seen this coming for years. Frelling duh?

"The most terrifying of the alleged prophecies is a “Hot War” over global warming and diminishing resources, with the greatest threats said to be biological warfare and terrorism."

Standard gloom and doom / fear mongering. Next?

"In terms of technology, Nostradamus predicted that cloud computing would simply become known as computing, solar power would become more widespread, and commercial space travel would take off with orbital flights around the Earth."

All things that have been in the news for over a year.

So, show me which quatrains predicted what, give me the chronology that scholars haven't been able to for years, and maybe we can talk. See, things like this are why I used to make a New Year's tradition of listening to Coast to Coast to catch the professional (amateur were the night before, as I recall) predictions for the next year. Was always entertaining.

1/10/2017 7:28:46 AM

StoneSpiral

Nostradamus predicted no such thing. His 'predictions' were actually critiques of the political climate of his time. He wrote them in the form of prophecy in an effort to avoid execution for doing so and made them just vague enough that today people can apply them to just about anything.

But if you read them in the context of his time, they're extremely critical of the government in which he lived.

1/10/2017 9:16:00 AM

KingOfRhye

By the way, the "Nostradamus predicted Hitler" thing, if anyone cares, is mainly based on this:


Beasts wild with hunger shall cross the rivers:
Most of the fighting shall be close by the Hister,
It shall result in the great one being dragged in an iron cage,
While the German shall be watching over the infant Rhine.
[Nostradamus, Les Propheties, first printing 1555]

Hister is the old Latin name for the Danube River, but some people make it a pseudo-anagram for Hitler. The rest of the quatrains applied to Hitler are mostly pretty general and could apply to various different rulers. Oh, and him predicting 9/11 is based in part on a prediction that was completely made up, not even Nostradamus's.

1/10/2017 10:46:34 AM
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