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Customers at a restaurant in Virginia are rallying to support a black waitress who received a a racist note instead of a tip at the weekend.

Waitress Kelly Carter said a couple had written on the receipt: "Great service don't tip black people."

Owner Tommy Tellez told BBC News the response has been "phenomenal".
People have been dropping by the restaurant to give Ms Carter cash, Mr Tellez said, and a YouCaring campaign has raised over $300 (£245) for her.
Her regular customers have been dropping by to give her hugs.

Tipping is customary in the US, where restaurant servers often earn less than the minimum wage, with tips supposed to make up the difference in pay.
The white couple who left the note appeared to be in their mid-20s, and left after spending $30.52 (£25) on food.

Ms Carter told local media that one of the diners had even complimented the breakfast she served them on Saturday.

She says that she would gladly serve the pair again, adding "one hateful remark cannot stop me" and that she would recognise them if they returned to Anita's New Mexico Style Cafe.

"My arms are still opened to him," she said, offering to serve them again.
"That's him, not me," she said during her morning shift one day after the incident, adding that "he only hurt himself. He only makes me stronger."

Anita's owner Mr Tellez said that Ms Carter has "handled it very well" and that he agrees with her desire to serve the pair again.

"Two wrongs don't make a right", he told the BBC, adding that the note was "appalling, disheartening, and outrageous".

He thinks political rhetoric from the 2016 presidential campaign means that "racism has certainly been on the table the last 18 months" and has thrown fuel on "a fire that has never gone out" in the US.

Ms Carter says she really does hope to see the couple again.
"Just me serving them will let them know they did not get the best of me. And I truly mean that."

Diners at Anita's New Mexico Style Cafe, BBC News 15 Comments [1/9/2017 10:59:31 PM]
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Well, I don't know how this story is "fundy." BUT, I do work in the service industry, and my experience has been that black Americans don't tip. They just don't. So, when I go to a restaurant and am served by a black person, I return the favor. I don't tip them. Does this make me a racist? YES!!! If I walk into a restaurant and get seated and have a black person wait on me...I'll do the same sort of shit that they've done to me. Hey! I need more ketchup! This food be cold, bring me another! This napkin be too rough! I needs another salt shaker! My drink is too hot! Bring me more ice! This ice not be tastin' right! Where that ketchup that I axed for?

1/9/2017 11:40:53 PM

This sounds a lot like something that happened before.

And Bob above me, starting with asking why something in the racism section sounds more racist than fundamentalist then moving into anecdotes about how he's intentionally rude to people because just any pound of flesh will do when it's the right colour, sounds a lot like the kind of guy who speaks before he thinks and then gets confused and angry when people treat him like he doesn't know what he's talking about because of it carrying on to be hostile to the next person he meets and offended that they take offense.

Ad infinitum.

1/10/2017 12:08:03 AM

Pharaoh Bastethotep

One point of correction:
starting with asking why something in the racism section sounds more racist than fundamentalist

The quote was submitted to FSTDT, and I only moved this here after the comment was made.

1/10/2017 1:15:37 AM


Good on the waitress and those who supported her.


"In my experience white people don't tip, therefore I don't tip white people."

See the glaring issue here?

1/10/2017 2:00:16 AM


Tipping is customary in the US, where restaurant servers often earn less than the minimum wage,

Less than the minimum wage.

Am I the only one disturbed by the offhanded way this mentions that there are people in the US who earn less than minimum wage, when by definition it is the bare legal minimum somebody can be paid per hour?

That could just be clumsy phrasing about servers working part time hours totalling less than what someone would make in a full work week at minimum wage but I have a sinking feeling that this really does mean people are openly talking about another industry wide double deuce in the face of the law in the US and nobody thinks it's worth much more than a shrug because they already look down on the people getting screwed.

Edit: Oh. Oh fucking shit in a snow blower... In the US any occupation that earns gratuities can legally be paid as little as $2.13/hr and somehow in the service industry employers find ways to impose fees on workers to force them to pay their wages back into the company such as charging wait staff in a restaurant a percentage of the cost for every item ordered by a party they served. I have no idea how someone would even begin to justify that. And as bad as I think that is? Well if you are particularly unlucky being the staff on a cruise ship can amount to being a captive debt slave trapped in a waking nightmare. I thought that shit went out with company towns? But no. It's all apparently technically legal. Even if technicalities are as childishly simplistic as getting around laws against deducting pay for certain bullshit reasons by having staff physically hand the money back to them the very minute after paying them.

1/10/2017 2:05:15 AM

Thank you for moving this quote. I forgot to select RSTDT in the box before I submitted it.

Trolls like you just get laughed at here, you do realise that don't you?

1/10/2017 4:56:37 AM

Pharaoh Bastethotep

This is just perverse. How can ANYONE who is not pure evil think that the USA needs LESS protection against exploitation? HOW??????

1/10/2017 6:34:13 AM

Doubting Thomas

What an asshole, whoever did that.

1/10/2017 7:59:12 AM



Well, I don't know how this story is "fundy." BUT

If I walk into a restaurant and get seated and have a black person wait on me...I'll do the same sort of shit that they've done to me.

Proved our point - by doing so yourself - Private Parts?

It's so great when the inferior subhumans do our own work for us: by proving, via their unjustifiable thinking: thus making their own fundieness so obvious that even Stevie Wonder can see it, that we who aren't racist/sexist/misogynist/homophobic/fundie are superior to them.

As the people of New Mexico prove too. With emphasis on people, and not racists: Inferior Subhumans.

Kelly has transcended the likes of you.

Love is superior to Hate.

PROTIP: Don't like being thought of as Inferior Subhumans, o racists? Now you know how it feels. [/Sauce for the Goose]

There's an alternative to being racist, and therefore being a subhuman: not being racist.

Justify your thinking. If you can.

1/10/2017 8:36:14 AM


Wow, I was so completely derailed by US service industry wages and practices that for a minute there I actually forgot to be angry at the blatant racism. In a sharp contrast to most racists who claim to be pre-empting inevitable rudeness or inherently inferior service or that they were getting the evil eye the entire time it's a tacit admission that they had no reason for what they did. The fact they went out of the way to point out that they're racist dicks using a back-handed compliment while trying to sound polite drives it halfway to self-parody but it's still not something to laugh at.

That simple persistent insistence that there's an insurmountable gulf of intrinsic worth between your will, choices, views, and the inherent value of your life when compared to others even if they show the same strength of will, make the same choices, hold the same views, live what is for all intents and purposes the same life with only your birth distinguishing the difference between you. Just disgusting.

Whether in the form of racism or classism it is an unacceptable perverse egotism that cheapens everything in life. Even the virtues and achievements of those for whom the system is rigged to support lose their luster. Theirs is no longer a personal victory, merely an expectation for the "inherently superior" or "rightfully chosen" to meet and coat-tails for the next fool to cling to. And if they don't even bother? Then they're still better by default in ways they are not required to prove. I think I would rot from the inside out with my life defined in such a way, I'd have no reason to get out of bed. I prefer a world where everything has meaning, thank you.

1/10/2017 9:22:58 AM


Capt. Boob, I waited tables for years. Black people tip just fine so long as their server is not a worthless fucking dick. Like you.

1/10/2017 10:48:06 AM


I have no idea how someone would even begin to justify that.

What's to justify? The tips are a part of your wage; it's just a dumb custom that they're given separately. It's kind of a dumb way to run things, but it's the same country that uses the imperial metric system long after the empire abandoned it.

If you eat out in the USA, leave a fucking tip.

1/10/2017 4:01:06 PM

@ pyro

Actually pyro tips are pretty much designed to be false hope. Tips supplant the employer's burden of an employee's wage before they can add to their pay. Going by the $7.25/hr minimum wage totalling a cheque of $290 in a 40 hour week tips must exceed $204.80 before that figure rises a single penny. Basically before a certain threshold you're tipping the owner and not the server. More like bribing the owner to let the server keep their low-paying job. That is pretty disgusting on principle and without dressing it up in deliberately misleading language it very directly seizing upon a set amount of a server's tips which is illegal.

But because tips are already expected and employers actually plan for them when tabling budgets they treat any week they don't get a whopping 70% discount on an employee putting that $204.80 back in their pockets as a monetary loss and constantly expect their servers to perform at a level that is by definition above expectation creating a bit of a semantic mess and a lot of pressure. That expectation applies to customers too who perceive themselves as paying extra and thus expect more by default. Sometimes to an unreasonable degree.

So unless they abolish this tip credit bullshit (which I thought they already did but then again when you look at the letter of the law none of this shit should be legal in the first place) tips are exactly what's perpetuating this abuse. The "sticker shock" of places that don't accept gratuities and instead pay a flat wage shows just how much they lean on the expectation of tips. But then you realize that's how much you'd be paying with the customary tip included to begin with but even if we go the route of abolishing tips completely while servers lose out on potential extra revenue that compounding cloud of pressure and increased expectation against a standard that is a contradiction of terms would cease to exist. And frankly what that saves in your physical and mental health will probably be worth more than extra bank. There's a lot of rage bait even on the server's end when people expect a tip.

Personally I prefer the option to leave a tip and for it to be regular enough that it's a big deal if a place ticks me off enough that I don't so oddly enough I feel like I'd lose out on that last example but god damn even that's better than the current system and the circle of animosity and desperation it breeds.

1/10/2017 8:11:41 PM


Thanks for the info.

1/16/2017 6:23:09 PM

Some Christian Anon

To be honest, when I first started reading this, I thought it was just a made up scam for attention, since it sounded crazy. But after reading it, I think otherwise.

I'm just happy that their attempt at racism wound up turning completely around like this. That note had generated more business and brought in more cash than the business would have gotten if the couple DID tip. That's the delightful irony here. In attempting to hurt the employee for being black, and the employer for allowing a black worker, they wound up ENCOURAGING her employment.

1/17/2017 4:06:13 PM

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