[OP of "Incel is more than just not getting sex"]
It's an ideology, it's a way of life. There are people out there who don't get attention from females, but it doesn't necessarily mean they're Incel. To be Incel they need to follow the Incel ideology, if they don't, then they're just failed normies.
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>There are people out there who don't get attention from females, but it doesn't necessarily mean they're Incel.
Reading between the lines, that means that they're having sex somehow which means; wait for it; they aren't "incel".
I seem to recall some "incel" saying that if a guy goes to see a prostitute, he's still "incel" since it "doesn't count".
Which is kind of hilarious because rumor has it that the women that Dan Bilzerian, public enemy number one to the whiny "friend zoned nice guys" and white knights who identify as "incel", surrounds himself with are high-end escorts. I guess that means that he's "incel" too since having sex with a prostitute "doesn't count".
You hear that "incels", Dan, a "Chad" is one of you following that "logic"!
Hey, sex is sex; you'd think that "incels" would be able to appreciate that.
I think he's differentiating here between virgins whose lack of sex doesn't turn them into psychotic, misogynistic sociopaths, and the kind of monsters that call themselves 'incel'. He's essentially doing what we've all been doing and pointing out that incels aren't just guys who can't get any, but are a special brand of despicable arsehole.
Weirdly, then, I find myself in almost complete agreement with this entry. The only quibble I'd have is viewing people who don't have sex as 'failed', as there are many other things to tie your self-worth to.
>(T)here are many other things to tie your self-worth to.
For all their railing against "modern Western society", "incels" thinking that a man's self-worth being tied to whether or not he's having sex is very much a product of Western society. Just look at how movies and TV shows portray any guy who hasn't lost his virginity by the end of their first semester of college at the latest as being a miserable failure.
And let's not paint guys who may be otherwise decent people but for whatever reason, low self-esteem, shyness, social anxiety, can't get a girlfriend with the same brush as "incels". Again, these are actual nice guys as opposed to anti-social creeps with shitty personalities who hate women whose narcissism, persecution complex and complete lack of self-awareness won't allow them to look in the mirror and realize the reason they can't get laid is staring back at them.
@Bimaac
Not to mention how movies and TV shows have told men and young boys, over and over, how they are entitled to a woman. How a woman will fall into their laps and fall in love with them without any real effort on their part.
Please note that I'm not excusing their behavior or, god forbid, saying they're right. I'm just pointing out why it might have happened.
These guys sure tie a lot of their identities to being miserable, misanthropic failures, don't they? You have to wonder whether somehow leaving "inceldom" would just break their fragile minds even further, since it would entail every aspect of their identity suddenly becoming null and void.
@pyro
Bit late, but it was r/IncelHeaven which got banned, and then r/TheIncelHeaven (or something along those lines) after that. SaintElliot is apparently a mod on r/IncelPurgatory, so I imagine it's round three.
There are also people out there who don't get attention from males. Most of them don't become creepy psychopaths, either.
To be "incel", apparently, you have to hate all women in the world, because your shitty attitude doesn't attract the few women you have approached.
Following in Scratch's footsteps: There are A LOT of movies that end with the guy pushing one more time to try to make the girl like him, and then succeeds!!! Whoopee! If they feel entitled to "females" from the beginning, and then see movies like that, they might get convinced that if you just push hard enough, sex will fall out of the women-bots. When it doesn't, and the women just get more and more defensive, they blame women, not themselves. That the guys in the movies are usually charming, cute and endearing, while they themselves are pushy, creepy and whining, is of course women's fault!
Pretty much, Scratch.
Just look at the "supreme gentleman"; he put little or no effort into approaching women and got indignant when they didn't tumble into the sack with him based on the image he tried to convey.
It's like "Nice Guys"TM, a group with whom "incels" have a lot of crossover with; they think that being nice, the bare minimum, is enough to get any woman to fall in love with you. And often it's just superficial kindness covering that they're just trying to get into her pants.
They completely ignore that actually being interesting, fun to be around and having an actual personality are all important in dating. Not to mention not being completely superficial. As I'm fond of pointing out, for all their whining about how women are "shallow", "Nice Guys"TM and "incels" tend to be pretty shallow themselves.
@Scratch Bimaac Swede
Pretty much, as we analyze lots of these old "classics" s good share of them prove to be actually quite toxic cesspools of rather adult entertainment, as in I wouldn`t let my kid watch this unless they were mature enough to get the idiocy of the humour. I and hubbs sometimes enjoy these buffonades while stoned but then again we`re almost thirty and both sexualy healthy adults...
Let's face it, Skide; most people realize that those movies don't in any way reflect reality.
Unfortunately, "incels" are a bunch of anti-social creeps who peaked emotionally in high school and don't realize that people change.
Just look at how "That Which Shall Not Be Named" thinks that trash talk shows somehow reflect reality.
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