Why doesn't God save all?
Jesus died to save all... this shows God wants all to be saved.
God can intervene more in the lives of those who have give their lives to him through Christ than those who reject him.
Sometimes atheists are left to their own devices they put their trust in medicine but forget God.
If you had to trust in medicine or God which would you trust?
The believer has the benefit of both.. But it is a choice. Do you as an atheist call on God?
I heard someone on tv the other day say they were driving somewhere and they came around a corner and there was suddenly cattle in front of them. They cried out to God and suddenly they were on the other side without harm.
You all make the decision of what and whom you trust in...
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More limitations on the powers of the all-powerful Yahweh. Now he has to be invited in first like a fucking vampire.
... huh. You know that would actually explain a number of things regarding christianity, come to think of it. Like the creepy obsession with blood.
No, it isn't a decision. If you'll excuse the paraphrase, "When I became a woman I put away childish things", and religion was one of those childish things. I cannot go back to believe in Jesus any more than I could believe in Santa Claus again. I can't unring that bell, nor would I want to.
If you had to trust in medicine or God which would you trust?
When I had a heart attack in 2009, I had essentially three choices:
1. Lay down and die.
I went with choice 3, and while I am on several different Medications which I will be taking for the rest of my life, I will stick to medicine.
Norm
"Jesus died to save all... this shows God wants all to be saved."
God won't save everyone, as a majority of people will go to Hell accoring to the people. God is all powerful. God wants everyone to be saved, and yet that doesn't occur. Hence God either can't save everyone or won't. The first is impossible because God is all-powerful. The second is also impossible because God is good.
Does not compute.
Lets say, I trusted your god to not be born a freak of nature, trust severly misplaced. Many years later I trusted medical science to make me fucntional and whole, it delivered and so much more than that..
"God can intervene more in the lives of those who have give their lives to him through Christ than those who reject him."
'God didn't save you? Then you just didn't have enough *faith*! Don't blame Him for YOUR shortcomings!'
Romans 11:26-32.
Jews don't even acknowledge your J-boy as their Messiah. Yet they're still Saved: and all because of their disobedience .
Y'know what else is Disobedience? Homosexuality - which said J-boy never so much as mentions in your 'True' NT, therefore isn't a 'Sin' - And Atheism.
Romans 11:30-32. Decision made.
Also, antiretroviral drugs that arrest the onset of HIV. Smallpox is all but extinct . And that old Biblical favourite, Leprosy is easily treatable these days.
If I were missing a limb, I know who I'd rather trust: his name's Prof. Kevin Warwick.
Why won't God heal amputees indeed.
Even the saved (as per Rom. 11:26-32) Orthodox Jewish Prof. Robert Winston - who is a medical doctor, surgeon & eminent gynaecologist - acknowledges that Evolution is proven scientific fact .
Really, So your the one to ask AGAIN, or one of you God pundits that grace this site.
What changed after Christs supposed sacrifice? No one has answered that for years now. If you try salvation then: How the Hell is that work? It's all bullshit.
And I would suggest you search 'prayer tests outcomes'. Many have been done with no advantage to the praying folk.
If you had to trust in medicine or God which would you trust?
Do you really want to know the answer to that question? I'll take the one that's been shown to actually work, and it's not prayer. If prayer actually worked then all those parents who let their children die because they prayed over them instead of taking them to a hospital would still have their children.
I heard someone on tv the other day say they were driving somewhere and they came around a corner and there was suddenly cattle in front of them. They cried out to God and suddenly they were on the other side without harm.
Yet another apocryphal tale about "someone" with no way to verify it or even get basic details, but only designed to reaffirm the faith of the faithful.
Most atheists are willing to accept gods, if there were valid evidence for their existence.
Sometimes, fundie parents of very sick children put their trust in God bur forget medicine. They usually have to bury their children.
I trust in medicine, but I wouldn't have any problem if a god or goddess wanted to help too. If they would demand that I choose either or, it's not trust, but blackmail.
Where they shouting "holy moly"? That usually works too. Cattle will probably move if something large comes at them.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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