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Regarding proposed changes to a controversial Idaho law that allows parents to deny their children life-saving medical care for religious reasons

Just before Johnson introduced his bill, Dan Sevy, a member of the Followers of Christ Church that has been at the center of the debate over whether to change the law, introduced a bill of his own.

The bill would add to the state’s law on authorizing emergency medical treatment a line saying courts will consider whether a child is being treated by any other type of alternative medicine, like faith healing, before ordering emergency medical treatment. That law already instructs the court to consider whether a family believes in faith healing in making such a determination, and Sevy’s bill would leave that intact.

Bills are generally introduced by lawmakers, but non-lawmakers like Sevy are on occasion allowed to introduce bills in the Statehouse.

Dan Sevy, magicvalley.com 15 Comments [3/20/2017 1:16:13 AM]
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Seems Idaho is trying now to be the state with the body count. This will not end well

3/20/2017 2:12:18 AM

Mister Spak

"That law already instructs the court to consider whether a family believes in faith healing in making such a determination, "

What if the family believes in voodoo witchdoctoring? Injuns dancing in a circle? Mullahs exorcising jinn? Chinks sticking needle into you? Should the courts consider that?

Didn't think this through, didja?

3/20/2017 5:22:10 AM

Doubting Thomas

I don't care if you yourself refuse to go to the doctor even if you're dying, but to do that to children is just reprehensible. You have an obligation to take care of your children and part of that is using actual medicine and not ooga booga superstition to try to heal them.

3/20/2017 5:28:47 AM

Citizen Justin

Depends how you see the bill. If the child is being treated by any other type of 'alternative medicine', like faith healing, then yes, authorise emergency medical treatment right away!

(I know that's not what Sevy was thinking though.)

3/20/2017 5:44:40 AM

Azereaux

What the high holy fuck is wrong with you? How did this madness even make it to the state legislature?

Here's hoping sanity prevails and this bullshit gets struck down before making it to the governor.

3/20/2017 6:16:31 AM

Swede

Are the changes so that the parents are no longer allowed to kill their kids? Then it sounds good. If not, then it's very, very bad!

The stupid parents have every right to not seek medical care when THEY are sick. But, the children did not choose to be born into a crazy sect, so they have the right to proper health care.

Alternative healing is not proper health care, so no, that ought not to be considered. In an emergency, emergency medical treatment is to be provided immediately. That's kinda what an emergency is, you silly bint!

Again, Sevy can refuse medical care on his own behalf, but children should be protected from harm, even from their own parents.

3/20/2017 6:27:05 AM

Musicalbookworm

Seriously, how can faith healing and alternative "medicine" even be considered. Children are not parent's property and if they are too stupid to get them proper medical care, the state should step in. What is so fucking controversial about that?

3/20/2017 6:28:35 AM

p p

In the words of Dara Ó Briain: "Get in the fuckin' sack."

3/20/2017 8:23:45 AM

Kanna

Rewrite the bill to explain clearly what he proposes: "Parents should be allowed to use magic to heal their children. Medical specialists should be called on after the child dies."

3/20/2017 9:14:36 AM

No One In Particular

Faith healing is just as real as the god that performs it; not at all. This guy is going to kill people. Indirectly? Yes, but it's still killing. Fuck your hideously draconian ideas on medicine, Dan Sevy.

3/20/2017 9:59:34 AM

Uilleam

Wonder how Sevy will react when a Muslim family say they'd rather have their kids treated by a Muslim faith healer, thanks?

3/20/2017 12:12:28 PM

Penguis

...And they accuse us of being child murderers.

3/20/2017 3:51:35 PM



@Penguis



That only counts for pre born. Once born they don't give a damn

3/20/2017 4:08:12 PM


Anon-e-moose

...and this proves that the law should deny certain 'parents' their children.

For no parent would deny their child the best - certainly scientifically proven - medical care.

If certain... 'parents' think Faith can do better, let's see the efficacy of that: when you adults develop a tooth abscess. Or your appendix decides to go FUBAR.

But then, why do you even need medical insurance; why so opposed to Obamacare...?!

3/21/2017 4:44:33 PM

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