Arthur Belling:
Listen Sedagive, I had a real life blood disease. It was called Thrombotic Thrombocytopenic Purpura or TTP for short. The treatment involved getting plasma infusions - I was given fresh frozen plasma in a process called plasmapheresis. There was no "bloodless" option for me. It was that or DIE. How very sweet and compassionate of you and members of your faith to tell me that I should HAVE ELECTED TO DIE rather than have this procedure done. So don't tell me my views are "archaic", practically everyone who got this disease before the 1950s died from it. Your heartless standpoint is so utterly horrible I can't even find the words for your lack of compassion.

Pizzarrhea:
Dude that's harsh. He would have died without the transfusion, and you're saying that's what he should have done?

Sedagive:
Re-read what I said. I said for anyone who remotely cares about God, about God's laws, and has a grasp on God's promise of the resurrection for those faithful, they'd have properly refused a transfusion. Since none of that applies to him, it doesn't matter, does it?

Pizzarrhea:
So you think he should have chosen to die...really?

Sedagive:
Yep, I would have.

Pizzarrhea:
Are you even listening to yourself? A life can be saved with a simple medical procedure and you think he should choose to die?

Sedagive:
Are you even listening to YOURSELF? A life may be saved temporarily, only to be lost permanently because of disobeying God. I'd rather die than lose out on that promise of living forever. Hmmm.....MAYBE live a little longer now but lose out on living forever. Or....MAYBE dying now, but promised to be restored to life with the chance to live forever. It's not even a question of the sane choice.