Worst "Proof" of God Ever Award
Formulated by the dumbest "Superintelligence" ever.
If the human race could collectively go one single 7-day period without committing any of the acts that God describes as sins in the Bible, I would agree that God doesn't exist. If God does not exist and evil is nothing more than how we happen to describe certain human choices, then obviously it is possible for Man to not commit evil as it is described in the Bible as the violation of God's Will. In fact, even if only 10 people could manage to go about their normal daily lives for a single week without sin, I think this would be a remarkable piece of evidence against the existence of God.
If, however, Man cannot refrain from committing evil despite consciously choosing to do so, then obviously the Biblical model of fallen Man is more in line with observable reality than the godless model, thereby indicating that Man's morality is defined by the Will of an existent God.
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"If the human race could collectively go one single 7-day period without committing any of the acts that God describes as sins in the Bible, I would agree that God doesn't exist"
So if we obey God and don't sin, God doesn't exist? How the hell does that follow? If evil exists, God doesn't? This logic is even more twisted than most of Vox's posts.
Seeing as how not mentally flagellating yourself all the time, not constantly worshipping the god of the Bible, hating anybody for any reason, not viewing sexual minorities as abominations who destroy civilizations (but remember, you're not allowed to hate them or THAT is a sin too!), and wanting stuff is all considered to be sin, that couldn't happen even if a god did exist.
@Churchy LaFemme
So if we obey God and don't sin, God doesn't exist? How the hell does that follow?
He is saying that it would show that the whole "fallen nature of man" thing is wrong.
If evil exists, God doesn't?
No, you have his ideas pretty much backwards.
https://voxday.blogspot.com/2009/09/letter-to-common-sense-atheism-i.html
Why am I a Christian? Because I believe in evil.
"If the human race could collectively go one single 7-day period without committing any of the acts that God describes as sins in the Bible, I would agree that God doesn't exist."
Actually that would prove God's existence and his omnipotence. I never understood why God forbids certain things that offend him, but is suposedly allows them to happen when he is all-powerful. He never actually stops things that offend from happening, he supposedly just punishes after the fact. He's omnipotent, but he dosen't get what he wants? What sense does that make?
And don't say free-will. That's not in the Bible.
That would require *you* to put in more effort than most.
And what the hell kind of logic is: Human beings are not perfect, evil exists, therefore God? And one of the sins in the Bible is being born in the first place, along with *not* pumping out babies.
How about a lifetime? Of course, what you or the bible call "sins" goes all over the place from "thou shalt not kill" (OK, good idea) and "thou shalt not steal" (fine, I'm good with that one too) to the shellfish-and-mixed-fabric nonsense of Leviticus. Is there a person in the world that will pass on the shrimp because god said "No-no"? Has anybody really rooted through the closet to get rid of that wool-cotton blend thing that feels so comfy because god said to?
Your imaginary god put "worship me" on the list too, and the idea of somebody worshiping an invisible entity because someone, somewhere, said that he was told that god said so - and that would prove he didn't exist? You've got a real boarding-house reach, Vox.
First you'd have to convince everyone that the Bible's concepts of right & wrong are correct. If you could do that, however, you'd actually be close to proving the existence of Yahweh. It is the wild variation in moral standards that disputes his existence. If his laws were truly innate, there'd be very little difference in concepts of right & wrong between broad groups.
So stupid that even in a hypothetical entirely of his own devising, he still faceplants at the starting line. Classic Pox.
If the human race could collectively go one single 7-day period without committing any of the acts that God describes as sins in the Bible, I would agree that God doesn't exist
Would that be things that are specifically described as sins, or simply things mentioned as being wrong? What about things that are thought of, by some, as sins, but aren't actually mentioned as such in the Bible? What about things listed as being wrong or a sin, but are typically ignored?
Oddly enough, the biblical god is much more evil than his adversary. Hell, even that book says who truly created evil.
(KJV) Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
So the omnipotent God of ALL GOOD makes sure there is evil.
This is what religion does to logic, it twists reality to claim the twisted version is right to fit the illogical narrative. In particular this "Presence of evil actually proves God" is dead common in apologetics now only because modern voices have been allowed to question the church and its supposed good in society. EX; If the church is so good why are people who are raised in it and regular attendants / believers killing, raping, stealing and lying as much as any? Arguably more according to Bible Belt stats "God will forgive me"
...sayeth the one who deliberately disrupted voting in the Hugo Awards.
Thank you for conclusively proving that Hypocrisy is hardwired into the DNA of all rightists & right-wing Fundamental ist Christains, VD.
After all: why did you exile yourself in Italy...?!
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