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[On an Andrea Dworkin quote about how she thinks men are not innate rapists]

I hate this quote. It makes no sense to believe in smth against endless evidence that it doesnt exist lol its entirely wishful thinking, male loyalty in action, as well as “the alternative is too awful, therefore we cant even consider it”.
Andrea Dworkin was so wrong about this. She lived with a male which undoubtably blocks womens minds. I think she wouldve reached the logical conclusion, if she didnt live w a male.

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So, Andrea Dworkin wasn't crazy enough for you. Got it.

8/10/2017 3:39:34 PM



Stemple’s team begin by pointing to data from the Center For Disease Control’s Survey of thousands of people for the “National Intimate Partner Violence and Sexual Violence”. In 2011, for example, this survey showed that equal numbers of men and women reported being forced into non-consensual sex (either raped themselves or forced to penetrate someone else). Extrapolated to the US as a whole, this would represent 1.9 million victims among each sex during the preceding 12 months.

There are similar findings for sex of victim in the 2010 survey, the researchers said, and that year, the survey also included detail on the sex of offender. To illustrate the prevalence of female offending, the researchers highlighted the number of men who reported being forced by a woman to penetrate her. The survey estimated that nearly 4.5 million men in the US had at some time in their lives been forced to penetrate another person, and crucially, that in 79.2 per cent of cases the perpetrator forcing the sexual act was a woman.

Another survey the researchers looked at was the National Crime Victimisation Survey, pooling the data from 2010 to 2013. This showed that female perpetrators (without a male accomplice) were reported in 28 per cent of rape or sexual assault cases against men and 4.1 per cent of such cases against female victims.

Data from prisons collected by the Bureau of Justice Statistics is equally surprising. Among female prisoners who have been the victims of sexual offences during their incarceration, they far more often report the offender to be another female inmate than a male member of staff. Indeed, contrary to stereotypes, another survey found that women prison inmates were more than three times as likely to be sexually victimised by another women inmate as compared with male prisoners’ risk of sexual victimisation by another male prisoner (bi-sexual women were at highest risk). For boys and men who are incarcerated, the prison data also show that they are overwhelmingly more likely to be sexually victimised by female staff than male staff.

National surveys by the U.S. Census Bureau are also revealing. A 2012 study asked respondents whether they had ever forced someone to have sex against their will: of those who said they had, 43.6 per cent were female (compared with 56.4 per cent of men).

Stemple’s team also considered data from college samples. Most recently, a 2014 study of 284 men and boys in college found that 43 reported having been sexually coerced, mostly unwanted sexual intercourse, with 95 per cent of the perpetrators reported as being female. An earlier survey obtained anecdotal descriptions of sexual violence from perpetrators. One woman described how she “locked the room door that we were in. I kissed and touched him. I removed his shirt and unzipped his pants. He asked me stop. I didn’t. Then I sat on top of him.”


If men are naturally rapists, then what, pray tell, do those findings tell us about women, my dear idiot?

EDIT: Looked at the source of this quote, and, apparently, the comment which started this (pretty much equally fundy, if only for the obvious idiocy and TERF-ness of that person) also mentioned domestic violence. Well then, just to put the fuckin' cherry on top:


This bibliography examines 286 scholarly investigations: 221 empirical studies and 65 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners. The aggregate sample size in the reviewed studies exceeds 371,600.

8/10/2017 4:22:56 PM


Studies of primitive societies where people don't know that sex leads to babies found that women are just as likely to be rapists as men. Most likely, it is the lack of perceived consequences that promotes rape, not anything inherent to either sex - it's cultural, not genetic.

8/10/2017 10:02:11 PM

Demon Duck of Doom

Holy shit, do I have psychic powers?

8/10/2017 11:58:40 PM


Yes, let's be like incels, isolating our groups from each other and spreading rumors an myths about the other groups to scare the noobs. That's totally the way to go.

Men are not innate rapists. This is a fact. Why is that so hard for you?

8/11/2017 6:10:40 AM

Doubting Thomas

I think she wouldve reached the logical conclusion, if she didnt live w a male.

Yes, it's only when you get to know your enemy do you realize they're not really as bad as you've made them up in your mind to be.

8/11/2017 6:49:26 AM

The Crimson Ghost

So living with a man blocks the mind? Where the fuck did that come from? Unless you're living with Lamont Cranston, you're probably off the hook.

8/11/2017 10:34:15 AM


I think the idea here is supposed to be "she lived with a tiger who didn't maul her, therefore she has a skewed idea of how dangerous tigers are".

That or maybe something like the racist un-logic where accepting black people as humans requires "willful blindness" to the "fact" that they're unintelligent rape-beasts.

8/11/2017 12:06:34 PM


When Andrea Dworkin is too normal for you....you're a weirdo.

8/12/2017 10:39:19 AM

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