The War of Northern Aggression, 1861 to 1865, was a war where the South democratic rights were treated with contempt by the northern Yankee.
The vast majority in the South wanted to succeed from the Union, a Union that had been screwing them for sometime. Their will was suppressed, a people should have their democratic desires respected if the majority in a state want to succeed they should be allowed.
Yet the brutal Yankees suppressed and destroyed the great south. Our soldiers should be remembered for the great sacrifice, outnumbered 4 to 1 in manpower, 10 to 1 in GDP, no control of the sea and major nations such as France and the UK siding with the Yankees, they fought well.
Never forget that confederate spirit, it will never die.
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The War of Northern Aggression
"War of northern aggression"? Oh, THAT war, the one you lost. Our CinC only likes winners, remember? That "confederate spirit", the one that will never die, has kept you all in ignorance and poverty ever since. The rest of the world has moved on. Join it, or fester there in the backwaters of the universe.
Yeees, "democratic rights". The "democratic right" to treat black people as cattle and kill or torture anyone who complained.
No, slaver. You'll get no sympathy from me.
Ah, lying to revise history. Always a fun sport for ignorant people stuck in a fantasy version of the past. Whether it's the "glorius" 50s or the civil war, their version of it has nothing to do with what really happened. I'm no American, but even I know that a) the south attacked first and b) it attacked because of one reason only: to uphold their lucrative slavery. And that's not propaganda by the evil "libtards", it's exactly what the confederate leaders stated time and time again. Stop living in a fake past dammit!
A Union that had been screwing them for some time
Indeed. Every last one of the high ranking confederates should have been dangling from every tree, lamp post or bridge, & 90% of the land salted.
I have fucking had it with these southern whiners. They have spent the past century & half whining, complaining & trying to distort history, while those of us up north prop their ungrateful asses up with federal taxes-that they bitch about. I'd like to saw the heads off of their ridiculous little statues & replace them with either Obama or Gen. Sherman heads.
Can any southerner please explain why so many of your fellow southerners are the way they are? I am genuinely curious.
@The Crimson Ghost
Not a southerner, but I asked that same question to friends from Alabama and Georgia, and they all gave pretty similar answers: Basically the culture of the Confederacy never went away. Even since the war, people down there were still being taught all of the tripe that you're seeing in this post, sometimes in public but definitely in private.
We're dealing with generations worth of inertia here: There are people who realize that it's all a crock of shit, but they tend to be the younger or naturally more open minded ones.
First of all, it's "secede" to "succeed." If you had paid attention in school, you would know that.
Second, the South lost the war that they started, and as a result deserved whatever they received. The losers don't get to put up statues. There were no statues to British generals and politicians erected in the US after the Revolutionary War or the War of 1812. Germany was not able to erect statues to Wilhelm II or generals Hindenburg, Ludendorff or Moltke after WWI. There were no statues of Hitler, Goering, Rommel, Mussolini or Tojo erected after WWII. Yet it can be said that those on the losing sides fought well, and were filled with national spirit. Most Germans, Italians and Japanese today, however, recognize that times have changed and that old spirit has no place in today's world.
@ Elie- that seems logical enough to me. I suppose we'll just have to wait until the ol' time rednecks & hillbillies croak. Considering the rampant drug addiction down there, & the almost shocking lack of health coverage, that may happen sooner than we think, which makes me happy.
Fuck the confederacy. Fuck its history & fuck the imbeciles who keep perpetuating it.
@The Crimson Ghost:
I have no idea. I'm a lifelong Southerner and I've never been able to understand the whole "pro-Confederacy" attitude. I can understand being proud of where you live--I'm proud of being a South Carolinian on the rare occasions the state does something praiseworthy--but that doesn't mean being proud of all their violent, brutal, bloody, evil history.
I'd love for every Confederate memorial to come down (there's a small one literally across the street from my apartment I wish I could dig out of the ground with a backhoe), and for the state to repeal its Confederate Memorial Day holiday. Yes, that's real; they had to create that as a compromise to also get MLK Day made a state holiday.
Looking constantly backwards, instead of forwards, retards societal progress. Obviously. Also, cultural mythology is no substitute for reality. As a lifelong southerner may I suggest you get over this bullshit? The world doesn't conform to your specific preferences and you're determined to whine and be all pissed off about it. Grow the fuck up, and I mean as a demographic group, no less.
@Alencon : The UK was originally on the fence: there was immense public support for abolition, but on the other hand, there was a lucrative opportunity to sell the Confederates ships and guns; once the Union declared that giving the Confederates more ships would constitute an act of war, that dried up quickly. Cotton was never the deciding factor in UK-Confederate relations like the Confederates hoped it would be because British bankers (who could see the impending conflict as clearly as anyone) were investing heavily on British Imperial sources of cotton, mostly in Egypt.
As for France, it too had no particular love for slavery; their misadventures in Mexico would have made it useful to have some kind of support, but the Confederacy was hardly in a position to offer it and at any rate they weren't going to get too involved in the war lest the British have a go at them (again).
There was never any serious consideration of either of those two getting involved in the war beyond running guns (guns the Confederates increasingly couldn't pay for), if only because of the delicate balance of European power.
@ Thanos 6- I actually have a bit of sympathy for all the normal, enlightened people down south. I can relate, at least somewhat. I'm in central NJ, & practically the entire planet thinks we all speak like the cast of Jersey Shore. We have insane tax rates-a decent portion of the federal taxes the leeching red states receive comes from mine & we are surrounded with organized crime & some of the most obnoxious tourists ever encountered. We also have the indignity of Gov. Creosote, a loathsome individual whose story is already famous.
I'd also like those moronic statues to come down. They are nothing but a reminder of slavery & a slap in the face of anyone who fought against it. Put them in museums or something; they don't belong on public property.
What will it take for the south to get its collective shit together? Posts like the original makes it appear that the south, a region made up of about a dozen states, to be filled with nothing but Dylan Roofs.
Confused?
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