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The problem with your position is that we all live together in one country. When this abomination was legalized, it in effect made the practice of the Christian faith persecutable. I can no longer in good conscience avoid endorsing homosexuality and keep my job.

Whether I rent halls, sell billboard ads, design wedding dresses, do photography, bake custom cakes, make t-shirts. . . you name it. I have to endorse homosexual behavior or I am out of work, fined, and I suppose if I don’t pay the fine I am in prison.

Persevero, Free Republic 20 Comments [9/1/2017 4:22:34 AM]
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design wedding dresses


Errr, if you're a male designing wedding dresses, you don't have to worry about calling other men gay.

9/1/2017 5:14:02 AM

Swede

Homosexuality has been legal for decades; you ought to be used to it by now. Ending marriage discrimination was just a logical step that was bound to happen sooner or later.

Do you endorse weddings of divorced people? THAT is something that Jesus actually spoke up against. He never said one word about homosexuality, as far as I know. If you're fine with endorsing divorced people, you should be fine with endorsing gay people too, you hypocrite!

9/1/2017 5:31:36 AM

Doubting Thomas

hen this abomination was legalized, it in effect made the practice of the Christian faith persecutable.


Oh FFS, it did not. You are still free to claim that homosexuality is a sin all you want, nobody's going to throw you in jail for it.

I can no longer in good conscience avoid endorsing homosexuality and keep my job.


Employers have the right to fire people based upon their prejudices. You don't have to like gay people, but you do have to respect them in the workplace as equals. You still have the right to your beliefs, but you still face consequences for expressing them.

FFS, as someone who runs a small business in a small religious town, do you know how much I have to keep my atheism to myself? If word got out that I don't believe in God I'm sure business would dry up quickly. So therefore I keep my beliefs to myself. You want to go cry about not being able to express your religious beliefs, go call the whambulance.

9/1/2017 6:24:12 AM

Penguis

What about people of a different religion? Or no religion? Wouldn't you be endorsing them as well by providing them your services? I don't recall anyone throwing any fits over atheist weddings. Or *insert different Christian denomination here*. Or pagans.

Can't even stay consistent, can you?

9/1/2017 7:03:18 AM

Kanna

You have an inflated concept of your own importance regarding the marriage. Unless you're invited on the honeymoon, you don't "endorse" the marriage. You provide a service. Whichever of those businesses you are in, I'm sure you've served customers who lie, who are adulterers, who have committed all sorts of sins that ARE addressed in bible. If god thought homosexuality were so bad, surely he would have put it on the list somewhere above "coveting".

9/1/2017 7:20:52 AM

conscience

All it did was allow homosexuals to exist without persecution. If that is persecution to you then it deserves to be. If not then you lied. Choose well

9/1/2017 8:19:20 AM

Anon-e-moose

Welcome to the world that those not exactly like you have had to suffer for centuries, nay, thousands of years.

Enjoy your stay.

I'm white & straight, yet I'm not 'Persecuted' in any way in this Politically Correct New Paradigm. You figure it out, bigots.

9/1/2017 8:26:50 AM

Thinking Allowed

Not sure which image to use here, so I'll use both.




9/1/2017 8:28:34 AM

rubber chicken

How is it you define your Christian faith as discriminating against homosexuals ?

9/1/2017 9:45:14 AM

Pink Jackboots

Thanks to FSTDT, I learned that the main (only?) Tenet, is hating on homosexuals.

9/1/2017 10:03:00 AM

Skide

By plying your trade to someone you don`t like you`re not fucking endorsing them you retarded twat.

9/1/2017 11:17:04 AM

Alencon

I'd love to know this asshole's definition of "endorse."

9/1/2017 11:35:50 AM

creativerealms

I do believe a business should be allowed to avoid making things that support same sex marriage if it is against their beliefs. As long as they are not refusing to serve homosexuals at all it's not the same thing as a business refusing to serve people of color.

9/1/2017 12:21:29 PM

The Angry Dybbuk

Quit.

You're likely shit at what you do, anyway, given that you spend as much time judging as working. If you want theocracy, join one of the Old Order religious colonies. They are almost entirely self-sufficient and their strict rules will protect you from the scaaaaary homos.

9/1/2017 1:48:27 PM

Shepard Solus

Not endorse. Just accept. You don't have to like it but you will serve them like you must everyone else.

9/1/2017 6:42:48 PM

Titania

Poor diddums! You're so persecuted, because you can't persecute other people anymore. You don't have to endorse anything, just SHUT UP!

9/1/2017 11:40:06 PM

Chloe

It's weird that you want to be allowed not to sell sonething to someone just because of their sexual preferences.

9/2/2017 2:41:44 AM

Hasan Prishtina

If you live in a right-to-work state, you can be fired for any reason at all at any time. In that context, protesting the existence of gay people seems pretty marginal and your employer can always claim a different reason for firing you. If you want protection for your views at work, organize to protect workers' rights and don't just sit around saying how persecuted you are.

9/2/2017 2:45:58 AM

keppie

Simple: pass any task you are uncomfortable with on to a colleague or if you are running your own business, state politely that you think you are not the right vendor or your service cannot meet their date/deadline.

In the meantime, seriously consider finding a better definition and realize that much of this would not be "endorsement." If you're just helping a woman try on a wedding dress or baking a cake, do you do a moral inventory with them to ensure they meet all of your standards? Is there a past divorce involved? Is the couple already intimate before marriage? Will they use birth control that you oppose? If you're not doing this but believe that simply baking a cake is "endorsement," you're being hypocritical.

For me, the line is attending and participating in the event. I'm comfortable with photographers saying no, but I'd rather they say something along the lines of "I think you'd be better served by Mike Thomas down the road, he's more familiar with events like this."



9/3/2017 8:23:22 AM

Sasha

Do you require all your customers to fill out a moral inventory questionnaire before you consider whether you deign to accept their money?

9/3/2017 9:24:57 AM

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