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I would be amazed if the men you mention had repented.

I would not be amazed to discover when the books are opened during the second judgment that those individuals had been turned over to reprobate hearts at some point before physical death.

But the reason they will be in the lake of fire for all eternity is because their names are not found in the Lamb’s Book of Life, not because of the things in the other books.

In that they will be no different than anyone else who does not repent, for whatever reason they did not repent ... which INCLUDES people who chose their perversions over the Savior.

And that is and will be THEIR problem.

What more could be done for them than Christ has done? Should they receive Heaven without repentance too? May as well ask if sin should increase that grace abound all the more. May it never be!

So you, why did you think to bring up such grossly wicked men as if they were the only comparisons?

Do you not realize that there are men that many people deem to be really great guys who also have perished (if we go by the witness they gave about their beliefs rather than by the wishy-washy sentimentalism of a world that thinks “good people” go to Heaven even though they reject the Gospel)?

To this I will add: it is not remarkable that people who were wicked in ways the culture deems less offensive may be damned in the very same manner to those whose crimes offends men the most.

For the natural state of men apart from Christ is not “holy”. And the culture is polluted, its judgments faulty.

Rather, if you want to marvel and be offended: YES ... there are people whose sins are legitimately among the most offensive to mankind who have repented, and they will be in the Kingdom ... even as “good men” who did not repent perish. It is even likely that some of the victims of those bad men (who repented), victims who themselves never repented, will also be damned. Just a matter of statistics that this is gonna happen.

Again, going back to your post, I’ve never seen evidence or credible claim that the men you rattled off repented. When they are judged any forced confusion on the matter will remain impossible to maintain.

But that is not your problem.

Your problem, and indeed your opportunity is have you repented? Have you been saved?

I certainly hope you have (I’m not judging you), or if not yet, that you will. The sooner the better.

Rurudyne, Free Republic 6 Comments [9/10/2017 3:35:56 AM]
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Kanna

"Repenting", and thus "salvation", are presumably things said in prayer to god, thus making a third-party judgment unnecessary, thus making you redundant.

9/10/2017 6:55:16 AM

Malingspann

"Rurudyne"

Systems Model 101

9/10/2017 9:16:43 AM

Swede

If you are talking about gay men, why should they repent for how they were born? That's God's fault, not theirs.
Why are you not talking about gay women?

Next Sunday, I'm going to do my duty as a taxpaying member of the Swedish Church, and vote in the Church election. The racist party Sweden Democrats are rallying their troupes, and are counting on non-racists, not-that-religious people staying at home and not bothering. Why they want to handle the church of the Middle Eastern Jew who said "For I was hungry and you gave Me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink, I was a stranger and you took Me in, I was naked and you clothed Me, I was sick and you looked after Me, I was in prison and you visited Me", is a mystery.
No, not really; they want power, that's it.

9/10/2017 9:29:34 AM

conscience

Trump has yet to repent. But he gets a free pass. Also Matthew 25:41 and Leviticus 19:33-34

9/10/2017 9:36:29 AM

Anon-e-moose

Josh Buggar.

Your call.

9/10/2017 2:38:57 PM

The Angry Dybbuk

Blabbity-blah-blah.

You think god will expose people to eternal torture for not repenting that they were born made of flesh.

Your beliefs are vile. You should be ashamed of yourself (but I'm long familiar with your type, and know already how you'd “answer” that charge).

If you want to piss It off, continue with your cruel rejoicing at how you think you're "saved" merely by a belief you hold, but that others will not accept without evidence. (And why should they? If you're the best rep your god has, it's a wonder that anyone believes as you do.)

If you believe that you were made by a creator, but do nothing good in service to others beyond running at the mouth, congratulations! You're less than an old, ever-wandering parasitic worm that requires a host even to communicate with anything above its station.

That is quite the feat. You should be so proud.

9/10/2017 11:52:39 PM

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