3. Imagination is evil and wicked. You call it an imagination, God calls it evil. (Genesis 8:21) It doesn't matter if you think that a little imagination is okay, it's wicked.
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Another quote from this person (same post):
"C.S Lewis is a heretic. I mean come on guys, the guy believes in life on other planets, he believes we're the highest of animals. All in all, this guy is heretical nut."
This person aparently does not understand the concept of "fiction." They seem to think that C.S. Lewis believes that Narnia actually exists .
It's not that missions2005 thinks an imagination is evil, missions2005 doesn't even know what an imagination is .
Who the fuck are you, Matthew Chapman?
Is this New York, 1980?
Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
I dunno, it takes a pretty "limber" creative mind to believe in, say, creationism. Much as it takes a pretty limber body if one is to stuff one's head up one's ass.
C.S. Lewis? Religiously ambiguous. One day he was atheiest, and the next day Anglican. His buddy J.R.R. Tolkien was a pretty devout Catholic. I think it's fair to say the two of them had pretty ginormous imaginations, no?
"Fundamentalism should be kept away from minors, just like cigarettes and alchohol."
...and this quote only makes me think more so. I mean, God must have had some imagination to create the world if he did. If you don't have imagination, you have to have someone with imagination tell you what to do, you know? If none of us had imagination, however, we'd have died out back in the caveman days. If not, then life would be completely boring without any stories, technology, or anytihng. We'd all be doing completely nothing, laying on the ground and getting cooked in the sun, not even botherign to wonder how we could have possibly survived since the caveman days without imagination. Not thinking "I wonder why this and that" or anything.
Some people think that intelligence is evil, especially fundamentalists. Imgination requires thinking, you know. Fundamentalism does not as much.
I value my imagination more than almost anything else, thank you very much. If it's evil, so be it - I would never give it up.
Oh, that printing press you use to make your precious book, come to think of it, even the concept of a book itself - guess what? Someone imagined them, and if they hadn't then they wouldn't exist today! Guess they must be evil. Go back to word of mouth, then we can have fun watching your dogma get even screwier with every retelling.
If some people think Europe actually exists, why can't some people think Narnia does too?
Mister Spak, you owe me a new keyboard.
It was JohnR7 who thought that Europe was imaginary, right?
Well, I guess we'll have to start burning all those wicked libraries and art museums, since they're packed full of evil imagination.
Think of what would happen if our children were to grab a hold of some of those evil works of art. Before long, they'll start thinking for themselves!
Well (s)he must show some imagination as that particular verse doesn't appear in my Bible. Genesis Chapter 8, verse 21 is
"And he drank of the wine and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent." -It's Noah getting pissed btw.
Not a believer myself but I do feel sorry for all the sane, decent christians who get tarred with the same brush.
Yet another sorrowful case of religion sucking the life out of someone. If it wouldn't have been for my imagination I wouldn't have much to show for myself. My childhood would've been hundreds of times more depressing than it was. Imagination is one of the greatest things that man possesses. The power to create, from only an idea things that bring so much enjoyment to others. Ugh, it's heart-breaking to think people live and think this way.
X-tians constantly lament that an atheist's life must be hollow and empty, but what kind of tomb is one living in when they think that imagination is evil. What a loveless existance.
Newer biblical translations show "imagination" as "inclination" or "thought", which give a better sense of what the passage means. The passage isn't saying that "imagination" is evil; it's saying that man is natually inclined toward imagining evil things and can't help himself, so it wouldn't be fair to kill him for it (in another Flood). It's not imagination itself that's evil; it's the use to which people often put it. Check kiljews' August 1 post for an example of someone God would drown in a NY minute for "evil imagination" if He decided to have another flood.
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(Not a believer myself but I do feel sorry for all the sane, decent christians who get tarred with the same brush.)
@ Dormouse. Its ok buddy, its like in any family, we all got relatives who embarrass us from time to time.
Without imagination, you may as well be dead.
My brain, my rules. Have a good day.
I just read Genesis 8:21.
It has nothing to do with the idea of imagination being evil.
It does seem to show the downside to being a drunk, though.
As there appears to be some confusion, this is the quote missions2005 is referring to.
@"KJV/Gen8:21"
And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.
Please note that many fundies (I would guess missions2005 among them) consider the KJV to be inerrant.
So folks, there you have it, incontrovertible proof that the imagination of a man's heart is evil. Clearly, the imagination of his brain is okay with God, otherwise that would be an error of omission. Which is impossible, right?
That is not even close to what the verse said.
Also, holy fuck, Autumn Person! Run!
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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