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I strongly advise anyone reading this article to use your time wisely. I'm not against listening to music, but the average person spends 13 years of their life listening to music. The average person has been listening to the same secular music thousands of times decade after decade. I'm not against music, but just think of how much better off you'd be if you listened to a few Bible-based sermons each week. There's hardly a day that goes by when I don't listen to at least one sermon. I usually hear a couple sermons a day. The Word of God teaches that a wise man LAYS UP KNOWLEDGE.

David J. Stewart, Soulwinning.info 23 Comments [2/1/2018 1:47:12 AM]
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Master Red

You can listen to music and still do other things, ya know? And I'm pretty sure music fills a different niche than sermons.

2/1/2018 1:50:09 AM

rubber chicken

For "sermon" read "Warning from the police to stay 200 yards or more from school grounds"

2/1/2018 2:30:54 AM

Canadiest

Again, if you're immersed in a church for even a few years YOU'VE HEARD EVERYTHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE SERMONIZED.

It's not complicated or deep, it's route, you will not hear anything new and will hear the same damn thing repeatedly. What you're endorsing is brainwashing reinforcement, nothing but. I've never been to church regular and I've heard it all. I've watched kids, mentally challenged and Televangelist preach and it's effectively the same sermon.

Just my Supertramp Albums alone give me more thought provoking content then twenty truly time wasting preachers could ever provide.

2/1/2018 6:48:02 AM

Doubting Thomas

I'm not against listening to music


Yes you are, especially if it's Taylor Swift, Elvis, the Beatles, or anyone else you rail against.

the average person spends 13 years of their life listening to music.


As long as it's Pink Floyd, it's time well spent.

2/1/2018 7:06:00 AM

Doubting Thomas

@Canadiest

What you're endorsing is brainwashing reinforcement


Of course it is.

I recently read the book Merchants of Deception written about a guy who was deep into Amway which operated more like a cult than a business. One of the things they were required to do is to read books on Amway and listen to motivational tapes (sold to them by their upline, which was the main income source for the Amway bigwigs) several times a week which had the effect of brainwashing them into believing they were going to make it rich soon. The author's wife started to become disillusioned and stopped listening to the tapes, and was able to think clearly for once, as well as the author as soon as he realized what was going on inside the organization and also stopped listening to the tapes.

I have no doubt that all sermons are basically the same way, keeping the flock brainwashed enough to keep the faith and keep the offering baskets full. Growing up Catholic, the sermon was the most boring part of an otherwise totally boring mass, and I never liked being preached at anyway.

2/1/2018 7:14:37 AM

Swede

I don't think I'm alone in saying that I usually do other things while I'm listening to music. Most times when I'm listening to music, it's while we are driving from our town to where our parents lives, a 2,5 hour drive one way.

The average person finds new artists to listen to now and then.

If they are all Bible-based, and you have supposedly read the Bible cover-to-cover a couple of times; what new knowledge do you get from a couple of sermons per day?

2/1/2018 7:25:03 AM

Timjer

I have never heard a sermon in my life (that I can remember, if I did, it musn't have been very memorable), however I'm pretty sure that there's only a very limited amount of sermons you'd "need" to hear before they start getting repetetive. As in, once you've heard a few, you've heard them all. Literally.

I mean, seriously, there's only so much preaching one can do about the same book for hundreds of years before you literally run out of new things to say.

Regardless, my point is that I actually do learn things, including moral lessons, from the various pieces of entertainment media I so consume with gusto. Wether they are scientific, economic, political, religious, etc... I always learn interesting things from them, more than I ever learned from religious classes at school.

And before anyone says that that's all useless trivia, let me tell you something. One piece of media actually helped me redefine my worldview, my personal philosophies. It made me realize that, things aren't always as black and white as they may initially seem. That things like vengeance aren't just empty, but harmful even. That forgiveness is not just a morally good thing, but can also prevent crime and suffering if someone only has the courage and will to do so. I could speak more in detail, but I'm not going to right now.

What is that wok of fiction you ask? Well, TBH, it's Attack on Titan. Yes, say what you will, about it being overhyped and all that. But it doesn't change the fact that the story and themes really made me think. And that while initially Eren seemed cool for his unyielding hatred and drive for revenge, it actually is a bad thing. Just like him, while I initially supported his characterization, so did I realize that finally seeing the ones he chased get their comeuppance didn't feel satisfying at all.

True justice is trying to prevent further crimes and suffering, not just punish existing ones. At least that's what I started to believe.

What I'm trying to say is, that life changing knowledge can be found anywhere, depending on the person. And considering that DJS is still is hypocritical, hateful self, his endless sermons certainly aren't what he's looking for. If anything, they only make things worse for him by continuously reinforcing his horrible self image and worldview.

2/1/2018 7:35:44 AM

KingOfRhye

The average person has been listening to the same secular music thousands of times decade after decade. I'm not against music, but just think of how much better off you'd be if you listened to a few Bible-based sermons each week.


One could do BOTH if they're so inclined. Or, you know, there IS plenty of Christian music out there if that's what you're looking for. Oh wait though, he thinks Christian music is evil and/or Satanic or something, doesn't he? (But then again, he thinks EVERYTHING is Satanic)

@Canadiest

Just my Supertramp Albums alone give me more thought provoking content then twenty truly time wasting preachers could ever provide.


You're bloody well right! ;)

@Doubting Thomas

Growing up Catholic, the sermon was the most boring part of an otherwise totally boring mass


Grew up Catholic myself...you're right on that! (Catholic weddings, too....ugh) I actually ended up attending several non-denominational Christian church services a few months ago, that's one thing I'll say for those, they moved along fairly well, relatively. Didn't feel like I was there for an eternity, at least. LOL

2/1/2018 7:41:03 AM

Keith

@Timjer

" however I'm pretty sure that there's only a very limited amount of sermons you'd "need" to hear before they start getting repetetive."

Especially since they don't use the entire bible for sermons. They don't talk about the woman who's lovers had dicks like mules, for one thing.
They don't usually talk about the full list of animals Noah took or how long they were aboard.
They don't repeat the long boring lines of begats...

There's just a few topics they keep cycling out, reinforcing the message they want, not to be confused with the message of a competing church.

2/1/2018 7:50:52 AM

SpukiKitty

Says the guy who plays Hawai'ian Steel Guitar....

....Also; A guy in a suit with big hair jumping, yelling and shrieking like an idiot isn't musical (though music involving much of the same with some shreddin' guitars is).

Y'know what's sad? If you looked at the above photo and had no idea who it was, you'd assume this was just a laid-back, casual, fun-loving Jimmy Buffet-esque guy who hangs out with his equally-Jimmy Buffet-esque buddies at ol' Margaritaville by the sea for some brewskis, Mai Tais, conch-fritters and watching tropical babes gyrate to the steel-drum band.

Instead; We get the Second-Coming of Eustace Pirkle.

2/1/2018 10:48:05 AM

Skide

Naah, think I`m fiine. Go fuck a beaver, Dave.

2/1/2018 11:10:10 AM

Doubting Thomas

@SpukiKitty

Y'know what's sad? If you looked at the above photo and had no idea who it was, you'd assume this was just a laid-back, casual, fun-loving Jimmy Buffet-esque guy who hangs out with his equally-Jimmy Buffet-esque buddies at ol' Margaritaville by the sea for some brewskis, Mai Tais, conch-fritters and watching tropical babes gyrate to the steel-drum band.

Instead; We get the Second-Coming of Eustace Pirkle.


That's the second time in recent history I've seen Mr. Pirkle referenced. Wanna have some fun? Go to Youtube and search for his movies "If Footmen Tire You, What Will Horses Do?" and "The Burning Hell." For the best experience, find the version from the Riffing Religion guys who give it an MST3K treatment.

2/1/2018 12:10:33 PM

The Crimson Ghost

I wonder what ol' Short Eyes' life soundtrack is. An endless loop of Player's Baby Come Back?

I had forgotten about Eustace Pirkle. I can't take anyone seriously with a name like that. That said, his "Footmen" movie is damn hilarious.

If you like watching religious dreck be riffed, check out the Bible Reloaded with Hugo & Jake on Youtube. They tear on old episodes of Bibleman, which is one of the stupidest things ever put to film, & I grew up watching the Smurfs.

2/1/2018 12:48:54 PM

Kanna

I get knowledge from scientific sources, not from a book of fiction, thanks. "A few bible-based sermons a week" would have me bleeding from my ears and climbing the curtains.

2/1/2018 1:09:07 PM

Skide

@Doubting Thomas
@SpukiKitty

Those would be the bible reloaded guys if I am not mistaken. Not much of their fan, tbh but my hubbie is. Enjoy.

2/1/2018 1:18:18 PM

Philbert McAdamia

Just wait until David hears about his beloved KJV being translated into Italian.
He comes unglued when he discovers a different letter of a word in another bible.
Hey, davey, they're changing every goddamned word. Ha ha.

2/1/2018 1:35:15 PM

KrazyKat

I strongly advise DJS to leave the kiddies alone, like how the average person does. Just think how much better off you'd be if you had.

2/1/2018 4:09:46 PM



I spent many more years listening to music of all kinds. I am better off having the music influence me

2/1/2018 4:27:51 PM

heleninedinburgh

@Crimson Ghost: the Cinema Snob channel also makes short work of Mr. Pirkle. I've seen 'If Footmen Tire You Blah Blah' in full and it truly is shit, although the fact that the psychopathic commie bloke looks like Harold Steptoe is good for a feeble laugh now and again.

2/1/2018 4:52:04 PM

checkmate

There's hardly a day that goes by when I don't listen to at least one sermon.


Why?

You have repeatedly stated that you have been saved by a one time act of rebirth and that that is all that is necessary for salvation. I recently read a quote from you on this site in which you stated directly that a reborn Christian can sin all he wants and lead a bad life without any fears of damnation, all due to that one moment of rebirth. So why waste time listening to sermons? PARTY!

a Christian can gamble, commit fornication, steal, curse in the Lord's name and do really bad things, and still go to Heaven. The people who have a big problem with that kind of thinking are NOT saved.


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2/1/2018 6:23:02 PM

SpukiKitty

@checkmate
I've been askin' that time and time again! I'd love an answer....at least a theory.
I think the answer is that it's all a bunch of doublespeak and these guys just want to control people.

@Doubting Thomas, The Crimson Ghost, Skide & heleninedinburgh
Well; I've seen the Cinema Snob shred that stuff. Haven't seen The Bible Reloaded guys, yet.
* That "Commie Officer Guy" is darkly hilarious. He's obviously some Deep South podunk attempting to play a Soviet yet his speech tends to sound like a hybrid of Dracula and Foghorn Leghorn.
* Then there's that Mustache Teacher guy who looks like a third-rate Mr. Kotter/Saddam Hussein.
* Also; Blood consists of Strawberry sundae topping and everyone is so stupid that they have their Church services out in the open rather than in basements or catacombs....they're just BEGGING to be "Strawberry Sauced"!

2/1/2018 7:36:47 PM

heleninedinburgh

By the way, @Spuki: I don't think I thanked you for that Davey picture, it's amazing. I don't know what I was expecting, but it certainly wasn't that. He just seems so... normal (to quote the next-door neighbours of every serial killer ever).

2/2/2018 5:18:37 AM

SpukiKitty

@heleninedinburgh
Well; Someone else posted it here, in the past and I just saved it.

Like you said; He looks too normal. Do you get the "Fun Loving, laid-back Jimmy Buffet" vibe, like I do?

There's another photo out there of him when a bit younger. He's slimmer, clean-shaven, playing either his steel guitar or keyboards and....get this....WEARING A MICKEY MOUSE (remember, he hates Disney) SHIRT!

I'll try to find it, hold on....

Darn! Can't find it!

But I did find these pics....


....If anyone can find the one with him wearing the Mickey shirt, I'd be most grateful.

2/2/2018 9:03:33 AM

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