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A long-time Toronto psychiatrist, who believes homosexuality is a “sexual disorder” that can be overcome, has been found guilty by Ontario’s medical regulator of sexually abusing two of his male patients.

Dr. Melvyn Iscove, 72, was described in a decision of the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario’s discipline committee as having a “special interest in the treatment of patients with problems related to homosexuality.”

He also engaged in mutual masturbation and oral sex with two male patients on different occasions during therapy sessions, and once had anal intercourse with one of them in his office, the committee found.

“Neither complainant described any emotional or romantic aspects of the sexual activity with Dr. Iscove, and both said that at some point, they thought that the sexual activity was part of the therapy and an attempt to cure them of homosexuality by engaging in the acts, rather than fantasizing about them,” the five-member discipline panel wrote in a decision released this week.

Iscove testified in his own defence, and the discipline panel noted that he studied and applied the theories of Dr. Edmund Bergler, a psychoanalyst who theorized on homosexuality in the 1950s. Passages of Bergler’s writings introduced at Iscove’s discipline hearing included “All attempts to prove homosexuality to be anything but an illness had in my opinion failed” and “there are no happy homosexuals.”

The discipline panel found Iscove tried to “soften the effect of these passages, but in the end, endorsed or at least accepted them.”

“Dr. Iscove also became evasive in responding to questions as to whether homosexuality should be considered an illness, and whether it was capable of being ‘cured,’ despite that these views were clearly held by Dr. Bergler.” the panel wrote.

“Given that Dr. Iscove had admittedly devoted his professional life to studying and applying the theories of Dr. Bergler, it was not clear to the committee why Dr. Iscove refused to acknowledge that he agreed with Dr. Bergler on these points.”

“He stated that these patients only became responsive to his therapy when they were ready to fight it (i.e., the homosexuality),” the panel said

The doctor still faces a separate discipline hearing for an allegation of “improper conduct in a public men’s washroom,” according to his profile on the College of Physicians’ online register.

Dr. Melvyn Iscove, the star 14 Comments [3/12/2018 11:57:07 PM]
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heleninedinburgh

Well, I'll be damned. Never heard of a case like that before. I was always under the impression that these ex-gay people were obsessed with homosexuality for perfectly innocent reasons.

3/13/2018 4:44:19 AM

Churchy LaFemme


an attempt to cure them of homosexuality by engaging in the acts, rather than fantasizing about them


Right. Like when I tried to kick my "addiction" to chocolate by eating Hershey bars instead of fantasizing about French silk pie.

3/13/2018 5:04:44 AM

KingOfRhye

Haggard's Law in action!

Hmm....I'm almost tempted to do like Amos Moses does on Christian News Network, just bring up this story in threads that are barely even related.

3/13/2018 6:01:13 AM

Doubting Thomas

He also engaged in mutual masturbation and oral sex with two male patients on different occasions during therapy sessions, and once had anal intercourse with one of them in his office, the committee found.
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Iscove testified in his own defence, and the discipline panel noted that he studied and applied the theories of Dr. Edmund Bergler


Are you sure that's not Dr. Edmund Buggerer?

3/13/2018 6:07:13 AM

Anon-e-moose

@heleninedinburgh

I was always under the impression that these ex-gay people were obsessed with homosexuality for perfectly innocent reasons


This is what The FAIL Jimmy Wilcum is scared of: becoming exactly like Dr. Buggerer.

Oh, and excellent Nicknaming, Doubting Thomas! Flawless in it's execution, and execution of someone's credibility since Josh Buggar. Bravo. b^_^d

This destroys the whole concept of 'Conversion Therapy', never mind the 'good' name of someone who thought that they had the right to so much as think of this being credible in the field of Psychology.

3/13/2018 9:04:28 AM

The Crimson Ghost

That's an odd way to try to cure yourself of homosexuality, indulging in it yourself. Fucking hypocrite. I bet he's a devout christian as well, they almost always are. The fact that he was busted for getting a bit handsy in the men's room should have been a huge red flag that he was...not all there.

3/13/2018 9:12:07 AM



Seems once again hypocrisy and abuse on the side of those who don't understand and oppose homosexuality.

3/13/2018 9:12:40 AM

breakerslion

Deep in the ocean, at the bottom of the Marianas Trench, there is a closet....

@ Anon-e-moose:

Agreed. I was going for, "Rump wrangler","doughnut puncher", "butt Bergler?" Or simply, Dr. Edmund "butt" Bergler.

3/13/2018 9:41:27 AM

SpukiKitty

"HAGGARD'S LAW" STRIKES AGAIN!

This time with extra yuckies!

Ya know what? It's official: There's always ulterior movies for anything frummy, bigoted or outright dumbass on various government's part....

A.) Homophobia and "Conversion Therapy" is simply a scheme is really about finding a scapegoat for your screwups, self-haters trying to throw folks off their trail OR an illicit scheme to get more same-sex nookie action.
B.) Religious frummerism and theocracy is just a world domination scheme because one is an AntiSocial who feels inadequate.
C.) Banning abortion and contraception is about forcing everyone to be 100% "chaste" or to have unplanned kids that can become future worker drones, prison-industry fodder, cannon fodder or butts in pews.
D.) Tough-On-Crime and tough scary prisons that don't reform is about making re-arrests constant, keep the industry going and legalized black slavery.
E.) The "Drug War" is about finding reasons for Example D. Also; Hemp is awesome and could put several Industries out of business (because Sodomites are all lazy idiots who can't just switch to the threatening Industry in question).
F.) Governments & Sodomites are super-inept when dealing with International conflict because they want to cause future wars! They KNEW those "Freedom Fighters" in the Soviet/Afghani conflict were Wahhabi psychos and actually REFUSED to fund and arm the non-Frummy rebels! They handled Iraq terribly because they WANTED the place an unstable hellhole! There's many other examples that can't just be chalked up to simple stupidity.
G.) Misogyny is about bullying 51+% of the human population to make up for one's feelings of inadequacy. It also the way the "male with the dullest plumage who loses the headbutt match each year" to cheat Mother Nature's system. Why work on one's looks, sexual technique, social skills or be a good guy when you can stay a horrid douche and still get nookies, marriage and offspring?

....In a nutshell; There money to be made, people to bully and psychopathic itches to itch! It's also a childish way to cheat at "Life Success" because you were too stupid or lazy to "Try Harder", "Get Therapy", "Self-Improvement" or "Adapt To Change".

MY MESSAGE TO PSYCHOPATHS & SOCIOPATHS IN HIGH & LOW PLACES: If you are KIND to people and do the "Right Thing" and work on making a better world for ALL....PEOPLE WILL LOVE YOU AND APPRECIATE YOU AND YOU WON'T FEEL INADEQUATE FOR HAVE A "NEED" TO BULLY OR OVERPOWER EVERYBODY & EVERYTHING! I know your brain's ability to feel empathy & compassion is in the commode but YEESH....if you have to be giving and kind for "selfish" reasons, it would still be all-good!

AND GOOD GRAVY, TO THE SODOMITES RUNNING MAJOR COMPANIES....
A.) Paying good wages with good bennies will pay for itself in the long run. Happy workers means better work....which means a better quality product....which more will buy....which means....PROFIT! Also; Your head won't explode if you have to put-off buying that extra Lexus for your vast Lexus collection.
B.) Military/Weapon/War Gizmo Guys! Manufacture Civilian Vehicles during Peacetime! A cool car made by Lockheed-Martin would be awesome and have the same image of quality & innovation as anything invented by NASA!
C.) Gun manufacturers; Branch out into creating other types of machinery! A Smith & Wesson microwave oven or air conditioner! C'mon! See Example B above!
D.) Big Oil & Coal should go Big Green! Get in the Green Energy biz. I know a few tried and failed before but try again and get help from some new blood to make it profitable.
E.) Outsource while still keeping the branches at home open and in business! Really! You're still making more money from the plants in China, India, Bangladesh or whatever! You lose practically nothing if the original branches in the Developed World are still in full-working order!
F.) Paper Guys, Oil Guys, Lumber Guys, Insulation Guys, Whatever; Don't defeat Hemp, EMBRACE IT!
G.) If everything you do ends up making everybody poor, sick or dead....you won't have customers to make money from in the first place. What profit is there in having all the bling in the world and lose your own customers, breathable air, drinkable water, pleasant environs....etc. You can't take that bling with you when you die!

3/13/2018 9:42:26 AM

Citizen Justin

Some research confirms the 'good' doctor was indeed religious: he followed the Judaic faith and was a member at Holy Blossom Temple which describes itself as "Toronto’s first and arguably Canada’s most historically important synagogue." (Well, they would claim to be important, wouldn't they?)

No info yet on whether they are still affiliated with him. I remember hearing a rabbi say once: "Christians believe in forgiveness; Jews believe in guilt."

3/13/2018 10:10:21 AM

SpukiKitty

@Doubting Thomas, Anon-e-moose, heleninedinburgh & breakerslion

I Gotz one better!....

Dr. Edmund Buggerer and Dr. Melvyn AssScrew

3/13/2018 10:12:21 AM

pyro

How's Narnia this time of year?

3/13/2018 12:30:46 PM

Anon-e-moose

@SpukiKitty

Dr. Edmund Buggerer and Dr. Melvyn AssScrew



3/13/2018 7:30:23 PM

SpukiKitty

Thanx, Moose!

3/14/2018 9:47:19 AM

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