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But you say, surely Billy Graham must be in Heaven! A Christian lady recently said to me, that she has heard countless testimonies from people online, who said they were influenced and saved as a direct result of Billy Graham's preaching. May I say, I do not doubt that some people were led to God through Mr. Graham's influence, and at some point heard the Gospel from some other source and got saved. However, they didn't get the Gospel from Billy Graham, as I just evidenced to you. I have received testimonies from people who were drawn to a religious rock concert, or some ecumenical religious group, as their first step toward the light. But then over time they realized that something was wrong and they sought truth elsewhere, eventually finding their way to a good old-fashioned, Bible-believing, New Testament church. So, an unsaved person may feel drawn to a dynamic public figure like Billy Graham or John Hagee; or a fashionable person like Joel Osteen; or a persuasive man like Pat Robertson. But this does NOT necessarily mean these men are true men of God. In fact, all of these men preach a corrupted plan of salvation that includes works.

It is the same case with the modern Bible versions. I have heard some preachers claim that they were saved from a New International Version (NIV). No, you weren't. The truth is that many of the churches that use the modern corrupted seed, also use the incorruptible seed of the King James Bible (1st Peter 1:23), and so the truth is there mingled amongst lies! In such churches, as would be suspected, some people are saved and most others aren't saved. Those pastors will have blood on their hands for all the souls that spend eternity in the Lake of Fire, because they were deceived and misled by Satan's corruptible seed. Satan knows that he cannot completely get rid of the truth, so he does the next best thing, which is to obscure the truth in confusion. Satan publishes hundreds of English Bible versions to confuse everybody. The churches are confused today. People are confused on what it means to repent. They are confused on how to be saved. They are unsure about what God requires of them to be saved and stay saved. We know that once a person is saved, he is permanently saved and nothing else is required. Once a child of God, always a child of God!!!

I triple-dog dare you (and that's a serious dare!) to show me anywhere in the Holy Scriptures where following Christ is required to have eternal life. I triple-dog dare you to show me anywhere in the Word of God where it says to make a “vow” in order to be born-again. What is Billy Graham teaching: commitments, vows, following, surrendering to Christ? These are not the Good News (i.e., Gospel) of Christ's death on the cross, burial and bodily resurrection, by which we are saved through faith (1st Corinthians 15:1-6; Romans 1:16). I triple-dog dare you to show me anywhere from the Gospel of John, God's Gospel tract (John 20:31), where it mentions anything about making a vow, following, surrendering, or committing yourself to God to be saved!!! No, rather, we are taught to simply BELIEVE (trust) upon the name of Jesus. John 20:31, “But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.”

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 24 Comments [3/13/2018 11:14:32 AM]
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No you're subscription of bullshit isn't correct! My subscription of bullshit is! Anyone who says otherwise is burning in my own interpretation of bullshit bad person afterlife!

3/13/2018 12:32:35 PM

Denizen

I'll agree with you. Billy Graham is not in Heaven, because (1) Billy Graham is dead and rotting, and (2) "Heaven" dosen't exist.

3/13/2018 12:43:28 PM

Thinking Allowed

Dave, perhaps you need to read your own bible.

3/13/2018 12:58:08 PM



David's preaching is part of why I am not a Christian. Do the math there David

3/13/2018 1:00:00 PM

Kanna

Is this a repeat, or is this just old Davie's broken record?

3/13/2018 1:11:31 PM

Chloe

When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

John 8:12.

3/13/2018 1:24:33 PM

SpukiKitty

DJ STUPID: "Billy Graham wasn't a raging hate-monster like me or his son. Therefore; He MUST be in Hell."

3/13/2018 1:32:49 PM

heleninedinburgh

We know that once a person is saved, he is permanently saved and nothing else is required. Once a child of God, always a child of God!!!


So you can molest as many children as you like, and it'll be ok.

3/13/2018 1:48:08 PM

Churchy LaFemme

Yes, David, we know -- you and Jack Hyles are the only people who will ever be in heaven.

3/13/2018 1:55:34 PM

Nemo

Identified David pretty quickly. He's bitter that Graham was famous and the only people who know about him are us. He's the PZ Meyers of Christianity.

3/13/2018 2:06:46 PM

Man Called True

Heaven must be terribly lonely. There's only one person in it.

@Nemo: That's a horrible insult to DJS.

3/13/2018 2:11:00 PM

checkmate

over time they realized that something was wrong and they sought truth elsewhere


In fortune cookies?



I have heard some preachers claim that they were saved from a New International Version (NIV). No, you weren't.


This yet again leaves me wondering how non-English speaking people can reach salvation. Their Bible translations have to be as corrupt and evil as the satanic non-KJV English language translations. They don't stand a chance. Satan has it really easy with them. Perhaps God should look into this. It's surely a bug, not a feature.

3/13/2018 3:15:57 PM

Anon-e-moose

we are saved through faith (1st Corinthians 15:1-6; Romans 1:16). I triple-dog dare you to show me anywhere from the Gospel


James 2:14-26 (KJV). Faith without works is dead.

Which is what you'll be, Davey-boy.

Also Matthew 7:1, and Matthew 23:13-27. So you're triple-dog fucked. >:D

3/13/2018 7:25:19 PM



@Denizen

"I'll agree with you. Billy Graham is not in Heaven, because (1) Billy Graham is dead and rotting, and (2) "Heaven" dosen't exist."

1. That is your opinion.

2. That is your opinion.

3/14/2018 2:44:59 AM

Doubting Thomas

If I were God, I'd be totally ashamed at what his religion has become. Instead of being a uniting force for good, it's become a divisive collection of little groups all pretending that they're the only ones doing religion right and all others are destined for Hell because they use a slightly different version of the holy book.

3/14/2018 6:10:04 AM

Token Atheist

Using the King James off the top of my head:

John 15 - it's what the "fruit" is. Vines that don't bear fruit are cut off.
Matthew 5:16
Matthew 25
All of James, but especially 2:19.
Ephesians 2:10
1 Timothy 5

Just off the top of my head. It is heavily implied elsewhere that at the very least, good works are evidence of a genuine committment rather than mere words. Otherwise, you are looking at some kind of magic spell. Recite the words "I believe" and get out of hell free. I don't really have a dog in the fight, being atheist and all, but if you think everyone else is a heretic, it is probably you who have the problem understanding your own religion.


3/14/2018 9:26:41 AM

Timjer

@Doubting Thomas

Exactly. I don't hate religion per se, in fact I think it has the potential to do great good, but unfortunatly almost all of its followers tend to disagree. Strongly and violently.

Not to mention, if god were to exist, I think he/she/it is very far from what fundies and extremists potray god as.

3/14/2018 9:28:04 AM

SpukiKitty

I ask DJ Stupid;

If believing in Jesus' Name is an instant "Get Outta Hell Free" card and your actions and sinful behavior is meaningless as long as you go "Jesus!"....THEY WHY IN THE NAME OF ELOHIM'S CORN-PLASTER AND SATAN'S JOCKSTRAP ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT LIBERATED WOMEN IN PANTS, ROCK MUSIC, ETC.

If, say, Taylor Swift said "I believe in the Name of Jesus!" then it's okay for her to be her!
Likewise; You are free to rub one out and give in to your Taylor Swift lust because...."JESUS"!

PLEASE ANSWER ME ON THIS, MR. STUPID!

YYYYYEEEEEAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!
THIS "MAN" IS DRIVIN' ME CA-RAAAAZY!


**********

Stephen Hawking just passed away. I can't wait for what Stu and others like him will say about THAT! It's sure to be FSTDT-Worthy!

3/14/2018 9:34:14 AM

Timjer

@SpukiKitty

Stephen Hawking just passed away. I can't wait for what Stu and others like him will say about THAT! It's sure to be FSTDT-Worthy!


Tell me about it. I've been bracing myself for it, and already read a few nasty comments from random people on my local news sites. Like how "he'll finally realize how wrong he's been". No need to explain what's meant by that...

3/14/2018 11:40:05 AM

Elie

Anyone else finds it very fitting that Davey believes in the minimum-effort version of Christianity?

3/14/2018 11:58:45 AM

sickofthebullshit

"Satan's corruptible seed"
*George Takei voice* oh my!

3/14/2018 12:00:20 PM

Some Christian Anon

@SpukiKitty

Don't you know? The only person who's entering heaven is David, as far as he's concerned, and his standards are as loony, restricting, contradictory, and incomprehensible as he needs them to be to get that across. Because if you could be saved, you don't need to listen to him anymore. You have to beg for forgiveness, but once you're saved, you shouldn't need to change your lifestyle, so any change is invalidating that forgiveness. But some actions are sinful, which invalidates that promise. But if you change your ways to stop sinning, you've invalidated the promise. His loony ego is his god, and he will twist and bend and break any rule, whether they be ethical, lawful, moral, or even one specified by his own holy book. David is God, and he's only confusing us by referring to himself as a persona to fool his clueless followers.

3/14/2018 12:50:35 PM

Anon-e-moose

Dunno about Billy Graham, but after early this morning there's someone who's joined Carl Sagan in the Cosmos, on board his 'Spaceship of the Imagination'.

A career in Theoretical Physics. Bestselling books. Appearing in episodes of "Star Trek: The Next Generation", "The Big Bang Theory" and voicing himself in "The Simpsons". Appearing right at the beginning of the opening ceremony of the 2012 London Paralympics. His name will be eternal: and for all the right reasons

When you'll barely be a footnote in HTML history, via the Wayback Machine: for all the wrong reasons.

Unlike what'll make Hawking's name eternal, what will you ever amount to, David J. Pedo...?!

@SpukiKitty

What I didn't know existed until today in a thread on 4chan's /mlp/:



With a certain somepony's infinite energy, and Reality Warping abilities, perhaps he found his Unified Theory of the universe after all. /)^3^(\

Also, on Pi Day. Which was Einstein's birthday. He too died on 14th March: aged 76. Food for thought. Which of course, Prof. Hawking did a lot of.

3/14/2018 1:33:43 PM

SpukiKitty

@Anon-e-moose

....PLUS; I'm saving that piccie!

3/15/2018 12:56:01 PM

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