various mumsnet commenters #sexist mumsnet.com

[Note: They are reacting to a report of an incident where a gang of 4 women attacked and beat a man unconscious]

Group of ‘women’ attack a man

(Dragoncake)
The violent stampers look male to me.

(Jorah)
These are not biological women.

(deydododatdodontdeydo)
Are they definitely "women"?

(Jorah)
why would the report even say that they were women? Because they have long hair and mini skirts?

(Branleuse)
fucks sake. they're not women

(Lysimachia)
Is Madam JoJo's still open? If it is they look like they are on the way there. I used to work next to that place and would often get on/off Leicester Square tube with drag queens and cross-dressers.

(LaSqrrl)
Those broad shoulders?
Most oppressed group on the planet?

No. And no.

(SpartacusVonWaitrose)
The thing that worries me most about self-ID is the effect it might have on crime statistics, masking male violence so we are unable to name it, talk about it, and stop it.

(sundaynamechange1)
I wonder what the crime statistics will go down as if they get charged ?

(AngryAttackKittens)
Huh, funny how I've never seen a group of women on a night out beat the living shit out of a man like that. I wonder what could possibly account for this unexpected event.

(gendercritter)
I found that intimidating just watching it. It was vicious.

Those are trans people, not women. And yes I'm very concerned too that male crimes are being masked in how they are reported.

(MsBeaujangles)
Whatever the natal sex of the attackers, this clip highlights the need for a system of categorising people by natal sex so nobody is in any doubt about a person's sex when they are committing violent acts. IF the attackers are male, this seems to be being reported and possibly recorded as a violent attack by women.
I fully accept that some people do not want to be defined by or referred to according to their natal sex. I have no problem with not highlighting people's sex or alluding to it in contexts were sex-based patterns of behaviour and / or sexed bodies are not significant.

(poopsqueak)
That is shocking. Completely shocking. I was watching thinking 'only men usually fight like that' and then 'oh....right'

I sincerely hope this doesn't go down as women on men violence.

(SirVixofVixHall)
That is horrifying. WHY the insistence in the article that the attackers are women ? WOMEN. They didn’t even bother with the prefix of trans. Surely they are drag queens anyway ? This is the issue with single sex space. Imagine the reaction from them if you looked at them askance in the Ladies.

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